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#495 Creating Thinking Firefighters with Chief Jason Caughey

3 de agosto de 2026 · 1 h 9 min

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In this episode, im joined by Chief Jason Caughey, a fire service leader with more than 30 years of experience and the Fire Chief of Laramie County Fire Authority in Wyoming, to explore the difference between simply training firefighters to complete tasks and genuinely developing people who can think, adapt, take ownership and act with confidence.

Together, we examine high-agency leadership, measurable performance standards, psychological safety, servant leadership and the dangers of cultures that teach firefighters to wait for permission rather than solve problems. Jason also shares how his organisation recruits for humility, hunger and practical intelligence, why coaching should come before discipline, and how leaders can give people room to make mistakes without allowing standards to slip. It is a challenging conversation about creating firefighters and leaders who are confident enough to act, humble enough to listen and trusted enough to think.

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