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The GOTO podcast seeks out the brightest and boldest ideas from language creators and the world's leading experts in software development in the form of interviews and conference talks. Tune in to get the inspiration you need to bring in new technologies or gain extra evidence to support your software development plan.
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The Forest & The Desert Are Parallel Universes • Kent Beck
This presentation was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.https://gotocph.comKent Beck - Software Engineer & Creator of Extreme ProgrammingRESOURCEShttps://bsky.app/profile/kentbeck.bsky.socialhttps://www.kentbeck …
Notas del episodio
This presentation was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.
https://gotocph.com
Kent Beck - Software Engineer & Creator of Extreme Programming
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https://twitter.com/KentBeck
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kentbeck
https://tidyfirst.substack.com/about
ABSTRACT
So close and yet so far. We see similar behaviors in The Forest & The Desert, but with opposite meanings. Similar words but opposite meanings. Superficially similar goals but working out at completely different scales.
What is The Forest? What is The Desert? Why are they so different, despite the similarities? And how can we get from crumbs to cake and stay there? [...]
Download slides and read the full abstract here:
https://gotocph.com/2025/sessions/3659
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Kent Beck • Tidy First? • https://amzn.to/4gscjjK
Kent Beck & Cynthia Andres • Extreme Programming Explained • https://amzn.to/3sBASDG
Kent Beck • Test Driven Development • https://amzn.to/3U4AXLs
Kent Beck, Fowler, John, William, Don & Gamma • Refactoring • https://amzn.to/3SFBYbN
Kent Beck • Implementation Patterns • https://amzn.to/3sBlCGLBluesky
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AI, Corporate Responsibility & Democratic Legitimacy: Extended Q&A • Joanna Bryson
This Q&A session was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.https://gotocph.comJoanna Bryson - Professor of Ethics and Technology, Responsible Data Science for Human …
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This Q&A session was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.
https://gotocph.com
Joanna Bryson - Professor of Ethics and Technology, Responsible Data Science for Human Development
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DESCRIPTION
Joanna Bryson challenges many popular assumptions about AI and AGI. She argues that current generative AI systems are not autonomous intelligences but powerful tools that compress and reproduce human cultural knowledge at scale. While these systems can appear intelligent, they remain dependent on human-created data, corporate incentives, and carefully engineered guardrails. Bryson cautions against anthropomorphizing AI and emphasizes that many concerns about AI stem from misunderstandings about how these systems actually work.
The discussion ultimately centers on responsibility and governance. Bryson argues that transparency, accountability, and democratic oversight matter far more than debates about machine consciousness. Whether discussing AI companions, recommendation algorithms, open-source models, regulation, or AI-assisted software development, her conclusion remains consistent: technology is not destiny. Engineers, companies, policymakers, and citizens all have agency in shaping how AI is deployed, regulated, and integrated into society. [...]
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https://gotocph.com/2025/sessions/3783
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Chris Miller • Chip War • https://amzn.to/4aBCUKT
Henry Farrell & Abraham Newman • Underground Empire • https://amzn.to/3YdXdGX
Phil Winder • Reinforcement Learning • https://amzn.to/3t1S1VZ
Alex Castrounis • AI for People and Business • https://amzn.to/3NYKKToBluesky
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The Platform Engineer’s Handbook • Ajay Chankramath & Kaspar von Grünberg
This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.http://gotopia.tech/bookclubCheck out more here:https://gotopia.tech/episodes/451Ajay Chankramath - Founder & CEO at Platformetrics & Co-Author of "The …
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This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.
http://gotopia.tech/bookclub
Check out more here:
https://gotopia.tech/episodes/451
Ajay Chankramath - Founder & CEO at Platformetrics & Co-Author of "The Platform Engineer’s Handbook"
Kaspar von Grünberg - Founder & CEO at Stealth & Author of "Thinking in Platforms"
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Ajay
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Kaspar
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https://kasparvongruenberg.com
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DESCRIPTION
Ajay Chankramath — author of The Platform Engineer’s Handbook — joins Kaspar von Grünberg to unpack why he wrote a 14-chapter, code-first practitioner's guide instead of another theory-heavy platform book. The conversation's core thesis: the reason developers don't adopt platforms isn't a technology gap, it's a product discipline gap — a failure to treat developer experience as a first-class outcome with a real feedback loop. Ajay walks through the book's arc, from Kubernetes and service-mesh foundations through self-service portals to enterprise-grade concerns like policy-as-code and FinOps, and makes a pointed case for building on 100% open-source, vendor-agnostic tooling as a hedge against geopolitical and licensing whiplash.
The most relevant thread for engineers building with AI today: citing a McKinsey finding that only 6% of AI initiatives show real productivity gains, Ajay argues that agentic AI doesn't reduce the need for platform engineering — it raises the stakes. As coding agents become genuine actors in the SDLC rather than tools, IDPs need a new layer for agent context, memory, tool registries, and guardrails, and that layer "must be built, owned, and operated by you," not bought off the shelf.
His conclusion: the differentiator in the AI era isn't which frontier model you use — it's whether your platform foundations are solid enough to make agents safe and productive at all.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Ajay Chankramath • The Platform Engineer's Handbook • https://amzn.to/4eCSibM
Ajay Chankramath & Eamonn Ryan • Domain-Driven Platform Engineering • https://amzn.to/3TdiC3J
Chankramath, Cheneweth, Oliver & Alvarez • Effective Platform Engineering • https://amzn.to/3OnxN8i
Kaspar von Grünberg & Luca Galante • Thinking in Platforms • https://weaveintelligence.io/thinking-in-platforms-book
Gregor Hohpe • Platform Strategy • https://amzn.to/4cxfYdbBluesky
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State of the Art of Platform Engineering • Abby Bangser & Charles Humble
This interview was recorded for GOTO State of the Art in April 2026.https://gotopia.techRead the full transcription of this interview here:https://gotopia.tech/articles/450Abby Bangser - Principal Engineer at …
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This interview was recorded for GOTO State of the Art in April 2026.
https://gotopia.tech
Read the full transcription of this interview here:
https://gotopia.tech/articles/450
Abby Bangser - Principal Engineer at Syntasso & Team Topologies Advocate
Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant
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https://blog.container-solutions.com/paula-kennedy-on-platform-team-responsibilities-patterns-and-anti-patterns
http://sites.libsyn.com/406853/syntasso-coo-paula-kennedy-on-platform-team-responsibilities-patterns-and-anti-patterns
https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/platform-as-a/0642572243777
https://github.com/Cloud-Native-Platform-Engineering/cnpe-community/issues/79
https://www.kratix.io
https://leaddev.com/ai/nobody-knows-what-programming-will-look-like-in-two-years
https://leaddev.com/ai/shipping-faster-thinking-less-the-ai-code-verification-trap
https://www.cncf.io/blog/2023/11/20/announcing-the-platform-engineering-maturity-model
https://platformengineering.com/features/portals-and-pipelines-arent-enough-avoiding-the-platform-facade
DESCRIPTION
Abby Bangser opens with a clear-eyed status report on platform engineering: the concept of centralizing shared capabilities with self-service delivery is well understood, but the execution keeps going wrong in the same way. Organizations move from DevOps to platform engineering, but their platform teams end up becoming the new bottleneck — a centralized group drowning under the weight of the entire organization's requests, which is exactly what DevOps was supposed to fix. Abby traces this to an architectural problem: too many platforms are still built as centralized Terraform machines rather than as a marketplace of composable offerings. Her "platform as a product" test is blunt and useful: has the team ever said "no" to a feature request, or deprecated something?
If not, they don't have a product — they have a request queue.
The AI dimension is where the conversation gets most urgent. Abby's position is direct: AI agents are the new forcing function for platform maturity. The biggest misconception she wants to dismantle is the persistent equation of platform engineering with infrastructure-as-code: renaming your Terraform team doesn't count. Platform engineering is about building an experience — for human developers and increasingly for AI agents — that is self-service, compliant, and coherent at organizational scale. The Team Topologies model of interaction modes (from high-collaboration to fully automated on-demand APIs) gives a useful health check for where a platform actually sits on that maturity curve.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Chankramath, Cheneweth, Oliver & Alvarez • Effective Platform Engineering • https://amzn.to/3OnxN8i
Gregor Hohpe • Platform Strategy • https://amzn.to/4cxfYdbBluesky
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The C4 Model: Visualizing Software Architecture • Simon Brown & Susanne Kaiser
This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.http://gotopia.tech/bookclubCheck out more here:https://gotopia.tech/episodes/449Simon Brown - Author & Creator of "The C4 Model"Susanne Kaiser - Independent …
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This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.
http://gotopia.tech/bookclub
Check out more here:
https://gotopia.tech/episodes/449
Simon Brown - Author & Creator of "The C4 Model"
Susanne Kaiser - Independent Tech Consultant & Author of "Architecture for Flow"
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DESCRIPTION
Simon Brown explains that the C4 Model started not as a grand design theory, but as a practical answer to an embarrassing problem: running a workshop on architecture diagramming, he realized he couldn't understand any of the diagrams being produced. The model formalized his own consulting practice of hierarchical handover documentation — context diagram at the top, containers below, components and code at the bottom — giving it a name and making it teachable. His core advice is to start with just the top two levels: context and container diagrams. These change infrequently, are quick to draw, and deliver immediate value. Levels three and four — components and code — are included for completeness but age rapidly with every commit, and in most cases aren't worth the maintenance overhead.
Two especially practical insights emerge from the conversation. First, how to handle microservices: if your team owns all the services inside a system boundary, each service is a collection of C4 containers; if you depend on another team's service that you can't see inside, model it as an opaque software system. This maps naturally to how domain boundaries and team ownership actually work in practice. Second, the surprisingly important distinction between modeling and diagramming: C4's real value is the shared vocabulary — systems, containers, components, code — not the visual notation itself. Teams using entirely different tooling can communicate clearly because they've agreed on what the words mean. Simon is firm that there will be no C4 v2; the model is intentionally lightweight, and adding more would risk turning it into the next UML — comprehensive, heavy, and largely abandoned.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Simon Brown • The C4 Model • https://amzn.to/4xB9V33
Susanne Kaiser • Adaptive Systems With Domain-Driven Design, Wardley Mapping & Team Topologies • https://amzn.to/3XTmNCc
Nick Rozanski &, Eóin Woods • Software Systems Architecture • https://amzn.to/4cOLtTv
van Kelle, Verschatse &Baas-Schwegler • Collaborative Software Design • https://amzn.to/4iv0N8IBluesky
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Cloud, Containers, Security & AI - What’s Now, What’s Next? • Adrian Mouat, Kief Morris & Sam Newman
This interview was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.https://gotocph.comAdrian Mouat - Developer Relations at Chainguard & Author of "Using Docker"Kief Morris - Author of "Infrastructure as Code" & Distinguished …
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This interview was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.
https://gotocph.com
Adrian Mouat - Developer Relations at Chainguard & Author of "Using Docker"
Kief Morris - Author of "Infrastructure as Code" & Distinguished Engineer at Thoughtworks
Sam Newman - Author of "Building Microservices" & "Monolith to Microservices"
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Sam
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http://samnewman.io/blog
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ABSTRACT
In this session, Sam Newman will interview Kief Morris and Adrian Mouat, both experts in their field. We will explore the current reality of security in the container world, how infrastructure automation is impacted by AI, and whether platform teams are actually working. We’ll also be taking lots of questions from the audience! [...]
Read the full abstract here:
https://gotocph.com/2025/sessions/3938
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Adrian Mouat • Using Docker • https://amzn.to/3PEYIJL
Liz Rice • Container Security • https://amzn.to/3oU4iJe
Kief Morris • Infrastructure as Code • https://amzn.to/4e6EBQc
Sam Newman • Building Resilient Distributed Systems • https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/building-resilient-distributed/9781098163532
Sam Newman • Monolith to Microservices • https://amzn.to/2Nml96EBluesky
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Signals & Levers • Elisabeth Hendrickson, Joel Tosi & Charles Humble
This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.http://gotopia.tech/bookclubElisabeth Hendrickson - Advisor, Coach, Speaker & Co-Author of "Signals & Levers"Joel Tosi - Co-Founder & CTO at Dojo & Co & …
Notas del episodio
This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.
http://gotopia.tech/bookclub
Elisabeth Hendrickson - Advisor, Coach, Speaker & Co-Author of "Signals & Levers"
Joel Tosi - Co-Founder & CTO at Dojo & Co & Co-Author of "Signals & Levers"
Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant
Check out more here:
https://gotopia.tech/episodes/448
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Joel
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Charles
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Links
https://ruthmalan.com
http://www.ask-force.org/web/Discourse/Rittel-Dilemmas-General-Theory-Planning-1973.pdf
DESCRIPTION
Elisabeth Hendrickson and Joel Tosi open by explaining why systems thinking is having a moment right now: organizations that went all-in on Agile and DevOps are finding those returns plateauing, and the rise of AI is forcing engineering teams to reexamine where their real bottlenecks are. The book, Signals & Levers, gives software engineers a practical vocabulary and toolkit for that examination. A core insight is that most organizational dysfunction isn't caused by bad people or bad intentions, but by systems that produce bad outcomes predictably and structurally. The named archetypes in the book — over 20 of them, covering patterns like escalating technical debt, the "fixes that fail" loop, and the boiling frog — give teams a shared language to recognize and reason about those patterns without having to discover them from scratch.
The most practically actionable section of the conversation covers signals versus levers: understanding the difference between information (a signal) and an intervention point (a lever) is the foundation for making changes that actually work rather than changes that feel productive and achieve nothing. On AI, both authors are cautious in the right ways: Elisabeth uses it daily as a thinking partner but keeps herself firmly at the steering wheel. Joel's warning is starker — AI amplifies whatever is already true about your organization, including dysfunction, and if it lets you ship faster than you can learn, the consequences may be severe. The book closes with an exercise for the reader: if AI doubles your delivery speed, what happens when you can ship faster than you can adapt?
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Elisabeth Hendrickson & Joel Tosi • Signals & Levers • https://amzn.to/4g6Fb3C
Diana Montalion • Learning Systems Thinking • https://amzn.to/3ZpycdJ
Don Norman • The Design of Everyday Things • https://amzn.to/4fV6QVl
Gene Kim • The Unicorn Project • https://amzn.to/3woXQDz
Gene Kim, Kevin Behr & George Spafford • The Phoenix Project • https://amzn.to/3X9cYxa
Peter Degrace & Leslie Hulet Stahl • Wicked Problems, Righteous Solutions • https://amzn.to/3ScP0D9
Frederick Brooks Jr. • The Mythical Man-Month • https://amzn.to/4gd10OV
Gerald Weinberg • An Introduction to General Systems Thinking • https://amzn.to/4dZCsaO
Donella H. Meadows • Thinking in Systems • https://amzn.to/3XtqYCVBluesky
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The Architect's Guide to the AI Era • Luca Mezzalira & Teena Idnani
This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.https://gotopia.techLuca Mezzalira - Solutions Architect, Consultant, International Speaker & Author of "Building Micro-Frontends"Teena Idnani - Senior Solutions …
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This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.
https://gotopia.tech
Luca Mezzalira - Solutions Architect, Consultant, International Speaker & Author of "Building Micro-Frontends"
Teena Idnani - Senior Solutions Architect at Microsoft & Woman in Tech Leader
Check out more here:
https://gotopia.tech/articles/447
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Teena
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DESCRIPTION
Luca Mezzalira and Teena Idnani open with a clear framing: AI is accelerating certain tasks architects do, but the fundamentals — understanding context, connecting technical decisions to business capability, designing for evolutionary systems — are unchanged and arguably more important than ever. Luca identifies what he calls the shift from a T-shaped to an "M-shaped" architect: broader and deeper simultaneously, using AI as a research accelerator that collapses days of trade-off analysis into hours. Both agree that the biggest current risk isn't that AI will replace architects, but that AI-generated code can look convincingly correct and pass initial testing while concealing edge-case failures that only surface under load, regulatory audit, or upstream change — particularly dangerous in regulated industries like finance.
The conversation sharpens around what architects must double down on to stay relevant. Luca advocates for merging deterministic and probabilistic systems through harness engineering — combining linters, static analysis, and deterministic guardrails with AI code assistants to produce more predictable outcomes. More broadly, both conclude that empathy is now a core technical skill: the architect's real job is riding the "elevator" between the engine room and the C-suite, translating freely in both directions. Luca's rule of thumb has shifted from 70% people and context, 30% technical — to nearly 90/10 in the AI era. The competitive edge for architects, they agree, is not in generating code, but in knowing which problems are worth solving and why.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Luca Mezzalira • Building Micro-Frontends • https://amzn.to/4ekqV5Y
Luca Mezzalira • Front-End Reactive Architectures • https://amzn.to/43a8VVJ
Gregor Hohpe • The Software Architect Elevator • https://amzn.to/3F6d2ax
Gregor Hohpe • Enterprise Integration Patterns, Vol 2 • https://amzn.to/3TNedQ3Bluesky
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Model-Based Systems Eng. & Requirements Definition • Dennis Hansen & Jorge Orellana
This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.http://gotopia.tech/bookclubDennis Hansen - Air Force Veteran, Chief Systems Engineer & Author of "Model-Based Systems Engineering and Requirements …
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This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.
http://gotopia.tech/bookclub
Dennis Hansen - Air Force Veteran, Chief Systems Engineer & Author of "Model-Based Systems Engineering and Requirements Definition"
Jorge Orellana - Model Based Systems Engineer at IERUS Technologies & CEO & Founder at SCATTERBRAINS
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https://gotopia.tech/episodes/445
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DESCRIPTION
Dennis Hansen brings over six decades of systems engineering experience to this GOTO Book Club conversation — from Air Force airborne navigation technician to Chief Systems Engineer at L3Harris on programs including the complete rebuild of the GOES-R ground system for NOAA and NASA. His book argues that the fundamental failure mode in complex system development is the same every time: requirements are defined too loosely, too late, or across multiple model layers simultaneously. He structures the approach using an onion model — a layering framework he was taught by a Motorola engineer in 1961 — where each layer (mission, capabilities, activities, technical requirements, specifications) must be completed before the next is begun. Skipping layers or trying to do two at once invariably produces excess or faulty requirements that surface as expensive failures during system testing, or worse, after deployment.
The second half of the conversation focuses on why modeling tools are databases, not drawing programs — a distinction Dennis considers critical. Every element in the model carries its associated requirements and the reasoning behind design decisions, which means that when you return to work after a weekend, you don't lose hours reconstructing your thinking. More importantly, when change requests arrive — and they always do — a maintained model lets you trace the impact backwards through the system and understand exactly what has to be modified, rather than slapping on a fix that creates five new problems. Dennis's closing advice is the thread that runs through the entire book: collaborate at every stage, every discipline working together rather than in silos, and define things properly upfront. Everything else follows from that.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Dennis Hansen • Model-Based Systems Engineering and Requirements Definition • https://amzn.to/4e6IiqJ
Kossiakoff, Seymour, Flanigan & Biemer • Systems Engineering Principles and Practice • https://amzn.to/4a7Elj9
Dr. Bruce Powel Douglass • Agile Model-Based Systems Engineering Cookbook • https://amzn.to/4wYnj12Bluesky
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Sovereign Cloud: Who Really Owns Your Infrastructure? • Jake Warner & Charles Humble
This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted in May 2026.https://gotopia.techRead the full transcription of this interview here:https://gotopia.tech/articles/445Jake Warner - Co-Founder & CEO at Cycle …
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This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted in May 2026.
https://gotopia.tech
Read the full transcription of this interview here:
https://gotopia.tech/articles/445
Jake Warner - Co-Founder & CEO at Cycle @JakeWarner
Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant
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Jake Warner, co-founder and CEO of Cycle.io, traces a pattern he's watched repeat itself since his OpenStack days: a new orchestration technology arrives, developers adopt it enthusiastically, it grows in complexity, and organizations eventually ask whether managing it is really a core competency. He made a decade-long bet that Kubernetes would follow the same arc — and built Cycle as the answer: a distributed control plane that lets companies own their own infrastructure and compute while still getting a clean, platform-like experience on top of it. The key design principle is a high ceiling without sacrificing simplicity — companies shouldn't have to re-platform every time they grow, and they shouldn't have to give up infrastructure ownership to get ease of use.
The conversation then pivots to Sovereign Cloud, which Jake frames not as a niche regulatory concern but as a fundamental trust and ownership question. He draws attention to a risk many organizations underestimate: the control plane itself. Unlike many platforms where the control plane is a single point of failure and a blackbox, Cycle's architecture ensures that even if the control plane goes down, customer infrastructure keeps running — servers maintain their own manifests and restart containers independently. Looking ahead, Jake expects more regions and countries to build their own cloud equivalents, driven by privacy concerns, data residency laws, and geopolitical pressures that are accelerating faster than the technology is.
His conclusion: the organizations that handed AWS all the keys are beginning to realize the cost — and the industry is correcting.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Alan Hamilton • Sovereign Cloud Operations • https://amzn.to/4dqYAe4
Leonard J. Horta • The Cloud Exit Strategy • https://amzn.to/4dXqeiN
Charles Curry & Tanessa Curry • Cooling the Cloud • https://amzn.to/4a0d4iA
Liz Rice • Container Security • https://amzn.to/3oU4iJe
Liz Rice • Kubernetes Security • https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/kubernetes-security/9781492039075Bluesky
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Dungeons, Dragons & Developers • Matt Brunt
This presentation was recorded at YOW! 2025.https://yowcon.comMatt Brunt - Dungeon Master & Team TinkererRESOURCEShttps://bsky.app/profile/brunty.mehttps://mastodon.social/@bruntyhttps://github.com/Bruntyhttps:/ …
Notas del episodio
This presentation was recorded at YOW! 2025.
https://yowcon.com
Matt Brunt - Dungeon Master & Team Tinkerer
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ABSTRACT
You enter the dungeon, as the echoes of your footsteps sound around you, something catches your eye - is that… oh, oh no.
You grab your trusty sword and with your fellow adventurers, you seek to overcome the mighty challenge that lays ahead of you: building software.
This talk is a look at some of the parallels between Dungeons and Dragons, and software development.
We’ll see how lessons learned through delving into dungeons and fighting monsters with a party of adventurers can help teams of developers when building software in the real world.
Are you ready to join me in a mighty quest for better software? [...]
Download slides and read the full abstract here:
https://yowcon.com/brisbane-2025/sessions/3641
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Heidi Helfand • Dynamic Reteaming • https://amzn.to/3Fvu5BA
Heidi Helfand • How to Change Your Teams • https://leanpub.com/DRTGuide
Carl Larson & Frank M J LaFasto • Teamwork • https://amzn.to/4cFWseQ
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Continuous Delivery in a World of Constant Change • Abby Bangser & Dave Farley
This presentation was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.https://gotocph.comAbby Bangser - Principal Engineer at Syntasso & Team Topologies AdvocateDave Farley - Bestselling Author, Founder & Director of …
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This presentation was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.
https://gotocph.com
Abby Bangser - Principal Engineer at Syntasso & Team Topologies Advocate
Dave Farley - Bestselling Author, Founder & Director of Continuous Delivery Ltd.
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Abby
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DESCRIPTION
Dave Farley and Abby Bangser open with a clear statement: Continuous Delivery isn't a relic of the pre-AI era — it's the foundation that makes the AI era survivable. Dave's definition is simple but consequential: software should always be in a releasable state, verified after every small change. That's not just a workflow preference; it's the same incremental, hypothesis-driven approach that underpins science and engineering. In an AI-assisted world where code can be generated far faster than humans can reason about it, the discipline of small, safe, verifiable steps becomes more critical, not less. The danger isn't AI writing bad code — it's AI writing a lot of code very fast that nobody is properly checking.
The conversation turns to a genuinely alarming DORA report statistic: 70% of developers using AI tools don't distrust the output. Abby draws a parallel to the long-running debate over whether developers can be trusted to test their own code — they usually can't, without a deliberate change in perspective. The same challenge applies to AI-generated code: you need to consciously shift from "prompter" mode to "verifier" mode, and most developers aren't making that switch. Dave closes with a surprising note of optimism: AI may be the industry's best-ever opportunity to finally get XP practices — small increments, automated tests, continuous feedback — embedded into how teams actually work. Not because anyone chose to adopt them ideologically, but because working without them while using AI is visibly, measurably risky.
Read the full abstract here:
https://gotocph.com/2025/sessions/3779
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Kief Morris • Infrastructure as Code • https://amzn.to/4e6EBQc
Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team Topologies • http://amzn.to/3sVLyLQ
Dave Thomas • simplicity • https://amzn.to/43FghBJ
Dave Farley & Jez Humble • Continuous Delivery • https://amzn.to/3ocIHwd
David Farley • Modern Software Engineering • https://amzn.to/3GI468M
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Go for Java Programmers • Barry Feigenbaum & Shon Saliga
This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.http://gotopia.tech/bookclubBarry Feigenbaum - Retired Sr. Principal Software Engineer & Author of "Go for Java Programmers"Shon Saliga - IBM Storage …
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This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.
http://gotopia.tech/bookclub
Barry Feigenbaum - Retired Sr. Principal Software Engineer & Author of "Go for Java Programmers"
Shon Saliga - IBM Storage Evangelist
Check out more here:
https://gotopia.tech/episodes/444
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DESCRIPTION
Dr. Barry Feigenbaum — an IBM, Amazon and Dell veteran with a PhD in Computer Engineering and decades of Java experience — spent time working with Go on microservices and liked it enough to write the book he wished had existed when he made the switch. In this GOTO Book Club episode with longtime colleague Shon Saliga, he walks through the core contrasts: Go is a compiled language that targets a narrower domain than Java — primarily command-line tools and web servers — but excels there with smaller binaries, faster startup, and dramatically lower container overhead. Concurrency is the headline difference: Go's goroutines are far lighter than Java threads, and its channel-based communication model sidesteps many of the problems that make concurrent Java code hard to reason about.
The error handling conversation is particularly illuminating. Java's exception mechanism, while powerful, encourages developers to overuse it for ordinary error reporting — Go simply doesn't allow that by design. Errors in Go are return values, not throws; panics are reserved for truly catastrophic situations. Similarly, Go's implicit interfaces (if you implement the methods, you implement the interface — no declaration required) give the language a flexibility that feels alien to Java developers at first but becomes a strength quickly. Barry's conclusion is clear: for greenfield servers and containerized microservices, Go is worth serious consideration — and for Java developers willing to reset a few mental models, the transition is more tractable than it looks.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Barry Feigenbaum • Go for Java Programmers • https://amzn.to/4uRL3li
Ken Christopher, Barry Feigenbaum, Shon Salig • DOS 5: The Basic • https://amzn.to/4tKDVGs
A N M Bazlur Rahman • Modern Concurrency in Java • https://amzn.to/42w8cOk
Ben Evans & Jim Gough • Optimizing Cloud Native Java • https://amzn.to/41nivD9
Ian F. Darwin • Java Cookbook 5th ed. • https://amzn.to/3QH0NZy
Victor Grazi & Jeanne Boyarsky • Real-World Java • https://amzn.to/4oCEeBRBluesky
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Engineering Leadership in Turbulent Times • Sarah Wells, Pat Kua & Daniel Terhorst-North
This conversation was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.https://gotocph.comSarah Wells - Independent Consultant & Author of "Enabling Microservice Success"Patrick Kua - Founder of the Tech Lead AcademyDaniel …
Notas del episodio
This conversation was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.
https://gotocph.com
Sarah Wells - Independent Consultant & Author of "Enabling Microservice Success"
Patrick Kua - Founder of the Tech Lead Academy
Daniel Terhorst-North - Originator of Behavior Driven Development (BDD) & Principal at Dan North & Associates
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Sarah
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Patrick
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Daniel
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http://dannorth.net/blog
DESCRIPTION
Engineering leadership becomes significantly more complex in times of uncertainty. This conversation highlights how leaders must shift from rigid plans to adaptable thinking—balancing delivery, team well-being, and long-term direction while navigating constant change.
A key takeaway is that great leadership isn’t about having all the answers, but about creating clarity, trust, and resilience within teams. The speakers emphasize communication, context-awareness, and empowering engineers as the foundation for thriving—even when everything feels unstable.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Sarah Wells • Enabling Microservice Success • https://amzn.to/4aa8xrv
Patrick Kua • Talking with Tech Leads • https://amzn.to/3ECO3xB
Patrick Kua • The Retrospective Handbook • https://amzn.to/4jpxxQN
Neal Ford, Rebecca Parsons & Patrick Kua • Building Evolutionary Architectures • https://amzn.to/42qXJV2
Mary Lynn Manns & Linda Rising • Fearless Change • https://amzn.to/49uuune
Mary Lynn Manns & Linda Rising • More Fearless Change • https://amzn.to/4tX6GARBluesky
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Modern Concurrency in Java • Bazlur Rahman & Michael Redlich
This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.http://gotopia.tech/bookclubA N M Bazlur Rahman - Java Champion & Author of "Modern Concurrency in Java"Michael Redlich - Java Champion & Lead Java Queue News …
Notas del episodio
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http://gotopia.tech/bookclub
A N M Bazlur Rahman - Java Champion & Author of "Modern Concurrency in Java"
Michael Redlich - Java Champion & Lead Java Queue News Editor at InfoQ
Check out more here:
https://gotopia.tech/episodes/443
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Michael
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DESCRIPTION
In this GOTO Book Club episode, Java Champion A N M Bazlur Rahman joins host and fellow Java Champion Michael Redlich to discuss Modern Concurrency in Java — the first comprehensive update to Java concurrency literature in 20 years. Bazlur traces his motivation to the arrival of virtual threads in JDK 21, which he describes as a fundamental shift in Java's concurrency cost model: platform threads were expensive and scarce, demanding careful pooling; virtual threads are cheap, plentiful, and behave like ordinary threads from the developer's perspective, without requiring a new programming model. The book covers this evolution end-to-end, from the history of threads through to structured concurrency, scope values, and the modern frameworks that have already adopted virtual threads — most with a single config change.
The conversation also takes a nuanced look at reactive programming's future. Bazlur's conclusion is that reactive remains compelling in specific contexts — event-driven streaming systems, architectures needing end-to-end back-pressure — but it's no longer the default answer to scalability. For most microservices doing blocking I/O, virtual threads are now the stronger default, and reactive becomes a deliberate architectural choice rather than an automatic one. The book's goal is to give developers both the conceptual grounding and the practical guidance to make that choice confidently — understanding the tool one level deep, so they can design better systems, not just configure their way through a framework.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
A N M Bazlur Rahman • Modern Concurrency in Java • https://amzn.to/42w8cOk
Ben Evans & Jim Gough • Optimizing Cloud Native Java • https://amzn.to/41nivD9
Ben Evans, Jason Clark & David Flanagan • Java in a Nutshell • https://amzn.to/43FDoMA
Ian F. Darwin • Java Cookbook 5th ed. • https://amzn.to/3QH0NZy
Victor Grazi & Jeanne Boyarsky • Real-World Java • https://amzn.to/4oCEeBRBluesky
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Roc & Zig: A Compiler Rewrite Story • Anjana Vakil & Richard Feldman
This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.https://gotopia.techRichard Feldman - Software Engineer at Zed Industries & Author of "Elm in Action"Anjana Vakil - Freelance Software Engineer & Developer …
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This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.
https://gotopia.tech
Richard Feldman - Software Engineer at Zed Industries & Author of "Elm in Action"
Anjana Vakil - Freelance Software Engineer & Developer Educator
Check out more here:
https://gotopia.tech/articles/442
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https://github.com/vakila
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Links
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https://adventofcode.com
https://www.roc-lang.org
DESCRIPTION
Richard Feldman and Anjana Vakil trace the Roc programming language's ambitious ground-up compiler rewrite — from Rust to Zig — which happened to coincide almost exactly with the year AI coding assistants went from useful to transformative. Richard describes how AI's role shifted over just 12 months: from mechanical test-porting grunt work, where it was reliable but limited, to genuine architectural collaboration on harder problems. The key insight is that guardrails don't live in prompts ("never do this" gets ignored constantly), they live in the code itself — invariants and automated feedback loops that catch the AI when it strays, rather than instructions it will cheerfully disregard.
The conversation widens into what the AI era means for software quality and trust. Both are wary of the coming wave of AI-generated "slop" — buggy, mediocre software produced at scale — but Richard makes the counterintuitive case that competitive pressure might actually force quality up: if everything is slop, the products that aren't will stand out hard. Anjana draws a parallel to consumer electronics brand trust: just like we pay a premium for the USB-C cable we know won't cause a fire, developers and users will increasingly gravitate toward names and communities they can vouch for. The open source contribution model, they agree, needs new systems to navigate this — and Roc v1, due before the end of 2026, will be a test case.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Richard Feldman • Elm in Action • https://amzn.to/387kujI
Dean Bocker • Don't Panic! I'm A Professional Zig Programmer • https://amzn.to/3ljKT8d
Tim McNamara • Rust in Action • https://amzn.to/3ux2R9u
David Drysdal • Effective Rust • https://amzn.to/4dAjbdX
Eric Normand • Grokking Simplicity • https://amzn.to/3gz7o3CBluesky
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Tech Truth: Agile Evolution & the Future of SW Engineering • Martin Fowler & Kent Beck
This conversation was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.https://gotocph.comMartin Fowler - Pioneer of Various Topics around Object-Oriented Technology & Agile MethodsKent Beck - Software Engineer & Creator of …
Notas del episodio
This conversation was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.
https://gotocph.com
Martin Fowler - Pioneer of Various Topics around Object-Oriented Technology & Agile Methods
Kent Beck - Software Engineer & Creator of Extreme Programming
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https://www.kentbeck.com
https://github.com/KentBeck
https://twitter.com/KentBeck
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kentbeck
https://tidyfirst.substack.com/about
DESCRIPTION
Martin Fowler and Kent Beck — two of the authors of the Agile Manifesto and perhaps the most influential duo in software engineering history — reunite for an unscripted conversation spanning thirty years of friendship, craft, and the relentless pace of change. They discuss how AI ("the Genie") has become a genuine part of both their workflows: Kent uses it as an endlessly patient tutor for exploration between features, while Martin distinguishes between AI as a tool for talking to computers versus the irreplaceable human skill of talking to the people who need software built. Both are optimistic about the future, though Kent's optimism takes characteristically sharp form: he expects the industry to keep making the same mistakes, which means he'll still be employed teaching the same lessons 20 years from now.
The conversation also revisits the Agile Manifesto at nearly 25 years old, with both reflecting on what Extreme Programming got right — feedback loops, testability, evolutionary design — and what the broader adoption missed or diluted. Martin is candid that progress in software has been slower than he'd like, though he points to a "forest" of practitioners who have genuinely advanced the craft. On the question of a Manifesto reunion, both gently redirect: it belongs to the next generation now. Their closing advice to a junior developer in the audience is perhaps the most memorable exchange in the whole session — use the gaps between features to learn, and never forget that understanding the domain and the people in it is ultimately what separates good programmers from great ones.
Read the full abstract here:
https://gotocph.com/2025/sessions/3780
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Martin Fowler • Refactoring • https://amzn.to/3EVcHXQ
Martin Fowler & Pramod Sadalage • NoSQL Distilled • https://amzn.to/3ChIpu7
Martin Fowler • Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture • https://amzn.to/3lp4sIq
Martin Fowler • Domain-Specific Languages • https://amzn.to/3nzOIFk
Martin Fowler • UML Distilled • https://amzn.to/3kahjyA
Kent Beck • Tidy First? • https://amzn.to/4gscjjK
Kent Beck & Cynthia Andres • Extreme Programming Explained • https://amzn.to/3sBASDG
Kent Beck • Test Driven Development • https://amzn.to/3U4AXLs
Kent Beck, Fowler, John, William, Don & Gamma • Refactoring • https://amzn.to/3SFBYbN
Kent Beck • Implementation Patterns • https://amzn.to/3sBlCGLBluesky
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Spec-Driven Dev Is Back. But Not How You Think • Daniel Terhorst-North & Gojko Adzic
This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.https://gotopia.techDaniel Terhorst-North - Originator of Behavior Driven Development (BDD) & Principal at Dan North & AssociatesGojko Adzic - Software Delivery …
Notas del episodio
This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.
https://gotopia.tech
Daniel Terhorst-North - Originator of Behavior Driven Development (BDD) & Principal at Dan North & Associates
Gojko Adzic - Software Delivery Consultant & Author of "Lizard Optimization" and many more Books
Check out more here:
https://gotopia.tech/articles/441
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Daniel
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http://dannorth.net/blog
Gojko
https://www.linkedin.com/in/gojko
https://github.com/gojko
https://twitter.com/gojkoadzic
https://gojko.net
DESCRIPTION
Gojko Adzic and Daniel Terhorst-North tackle the question every software team is wrestling with right now: does AI-assisted development actually work, and if so, how?
Their verdict is nuanced. One-shot "spec-to-product" approaches are doomed — both compare them to CASE tools and model-driven architecture of past decades, great for selling to enterprise buyers, disappointing in practice. What does work is tight, iterative feedback loops where AI handles the more deterministic, structural parts of the job while humans retain ownership of domain knowledge, semantic correctness, and architectural judgment.
The most practically useful thread of the conversation is Gojko's insight on guardrails: instead of relying on markdown files and hoping your AI agent stays in line, encode your rules as real, automated linting checks — ones that run in CI, apply to humans and bots alike, and include actionable error messages.
Daniel adds a complementary observation: AI shines brightest not on core domain code, but on the "quality of life" tasks that never quite make it to the backlog. Their shared conclusion is that the teams winning with AI right now are the ones treating published frameworks as starting templates to rapidly adapt — not gospel to follow blindly.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Gojko Adzic • Lizard Optimization • https://leanpub.com/lizardoptimization
Gojko Adzic • Impact Mapping • https://amzn.to/3dQFCOq
Adzic, Evans & Roden • Fifty Quick Ideas To Improve Your Tests • https://amzn.to/3yuDaoL
Adzic, Evans & Korac • Fifty Quick Ideas to Improve Your User Stories • https://amzn.to/3jQ4QjP
Adzic & Korac • Humans vs Computers • https://amzn.to/2Utz55A
Gojko Adzic • Specification by Example • https://amzn.to/3hHrEjb
Eliyahu M. Goldratt • Beyond the Goal • https://amzn.to/3wDbAL1
Kent Beck, Fowler, John, William, Don & Gamma • Refactoring • https://amzn.to/3SFBYbNBluesky
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Connection is Everything: Extended Q&A • Ken Hughes
This Q&A session was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.https://gotocph.comKen Hughes - The King of Customer ExperienceKeynote available here: https://youtu.be/tHf-BFM2CNMRESOURCEShttps://twitter.com/KenHughesIEht …
Notas del episodio
This Q&A session was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.
https://gotocph.com
Ken Hughes - The King of Customer Experience
Keynote available here: https://youtu.be/tHf-BFM2CNM
RESOURCES
https://twitter.com/KenHughesIE
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kenhughesie
https://www.kenhughes.info
DESCRIPTION
In this extended Q&A following his GOTO Copenhagen 2025 keynote, Ken Hughes — "The King of Customer Experience" — tackles the questions every business avoids asking honestly. He argues that employee experience always comes first: you cannot ask people to deliver extraordinary customer moments unless they themselves feel seen, empowered, and purposeful at work. On ROI, he challenges the entire premise, proposing a shift from "Return on Investment" to "Desire to Invest" — because measuring caring with a ledger is the behavior of, as he puts it, a toxic psychopath. The real unlock, he insists, is placing the user genuinely at the centre — not as a metric, but as a human being who deserves to feel like the only person in the room.
The conversation turns to AI's role in making this scalable, and here Hughes lands his most forward-looking point: the era of having to choose between serving the masses and making an individual feel special is ending. AI will enable what he calls "scaled personalization" — the ability to make every customer their own blue dot simultaneously, the way a personalized Minecraft lesson teaches area and perimeter to an 8-year-old who wasn't getting it in a classroom. The session closes with a striking reminder: the brands people remember aren't the ones with the slickest products — they're the ones that made them feel genuinely seen. A nurse. A fishing magazine. Five dollars. That's the bar.
Read the full abstract here:
https://gotocph.com/2025/sessions/3778
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Ken Hughes • Taylormaking • https://amzn.to/3WOEgd9
Robert Waldinger & Marc Schulz • The Good Life • https://amzn.to/4orelUSBluesky
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State of the Art of Java in 2026 • Ben Evans
This interview was recorded for GOTO State of the Art in March 2026.https://gotopia.techBen Evans - Senior Principal SW Engineer at Red Hat & Co-Author of "Optimizing Cloud Native Java" & many more BooksRead …
Notas del episodio
This interview was recorded for GOTO State of the Art in March 2026.
https://gotopia.tech
Ben Evans - Senior Principal SW Engineer at Red Hat & Co-Author of "Optimizing Cloud Native Java" & many more Books
Read the full transcription of this interview here:
https://gotopia.tech/articles/439
RESOURCES
Ben
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Links
https://newrelic.com/resources/report/2024-state-of-the-java-ecosystem
https://redmonk.com/sogrady/2025/06/18/language-rankings-1-25
https://www.stepsecurity.io/blog/hackerbot-claw-github-actions-exploitation
https://stripe.dev/blog/minions-stripes-one-shot-end-to-end-coding-agents
https://openjdk.org/jeps/8305968
https://openjdk.org/jeps/353
https://openjdk.org/jeps/416
https://developer.ibm.com/articles/j-ffm
https://openjdk.org/jeps/8350458
https://openjdk.org/jeps/8303099
DESCRIPTION
In this GOTO State of the Art, Java Champion & Red Hat Senior Principal SW Engineer Ben Evans delivers a sweeping, data-driven audit of Java's health in 2026 — and the picture is far healthier than the tech press would have you believe. Server-side Java workloads have roughly doubled in the last 7 years, developer wages are stable (unlike JavaScript, which is heading south), Java has been in the top 4 programming languages for 12 consecutive years, and the entire cloud-native infrastructure stack — Kafka, Cassandra, Spark, OpenTelemetry, Keycloak — runs on it. The real insight is mathematical: explosive growth of a small language base is still dwarfed by modest growth of Java's enormous installed base. Java isn't dying; it's just not shiny enough to get clicks.
The meat of the talk is a masterclass in Java's architecture and roadmap. Ben unpacks the fundamental tension between dynamism (the JVM's Lisp-and-Smalltalk-heritage runtime) and integrity (modern security demands that restrict unchecked internal API access), before walking through the near and far future: Project Valhalla's value types (the most fundamental change to Java ever — bigger than generics or lambdas), the Vector API waiting on Valhalla to land, nullability markers, ahead-of-time compilation, and beyond that, type classes and Project Babylon.
His honest take on AI tooling is sharp: great for greenfield, genuinely poor at architectural reasoning and version-specific code, and only a real productivity multiplier for teams who already have solid engineering practices. Oh, and it's a wolf in sheep's clothing — the JVM's dynamism makes it way closer to Lisp than to C++, and Java's philosophy of "boring done right" turns out to be an excellent foundation for AI-era enterprise software.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Ben Evans & Jim Gough • Optimizing Cloud Native Java • https://amzn.to/41nivD9
Ben Evans, Jason Clark & David Flanagan • Java in a Nutshell • https://amzn.to/43FDoMABluesky
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Kafka for Architects • Ekaterina Gorshkova & Viktor Gamov
This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.http://gotopia.tech/bookclubEkaterina Gorshkova - Apache Kafka Engineer at SOFTEC & Author of "Kafka for Architects"Viktor Gamov - Principal Developer Advocate …
Notas del episodio
This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.
http://gotopia.tech/bookclub
Ekaterina Gorshkova - Apache Kafka Engineer at SOFTEC & Author of "Kafka for Architects"
Viktor Gamov - Principal Developer Advocate at Confluent & Co-Author of "Kafka in Action"
Check out more here:
https://gotopia.tech/episodes/440
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Links
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DESCRIPTION
Apache Kafka has evolved far beyond a simple message broker — it has become a foundational layer for modern enterprise software. In this GOTO Book Club episode, Ekaterina Gorshkova, author of "Kafka for Architects", shares how her decade-long journey with Kafka — starting in a Czech bank's integration team in 2015 — shaped her understanding of what it really takes to design Kafka-based systems at scale. The conversation covers core architectural decisions, real-world patterns for enterprise integration, the role of Kafka Streams, and how to avoid the classic pitfalls of building systems that "only three engineers understand".
The episode also looks forward: Ekaterina and host Viktor Gamov explore how Kafka is increasingly becoming the connective tissue for AI-driven systems, acting as an orchestration layer between intelligent agents, real-time data, and business workflows. Her book's central argument is that while AI and tooling change fast, the fundamental knowledge of how to design robust, event-driven systems is durable and career-proof. Kafka for Architects is framed not just as a technical manual, but as a roadmap for architects who want to get Kafka right from day one — requirements, design, testing, and all.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Ekaterina Gorshkova • Kafka for Architects • https://amzn.to/42mDarU
Dylan Scott, Viktor Gamov & Dave Klein • Kafka in Action • https://amzn.to/4vJ3Kcj
Viktor Gamov, Tartakovsky, Rasputnis & Fain • Enterprise Web Development • https://amzn.to/3CezL0R
Shapira, Palino, Sivaram & Petty • Kafka: The Definitive Guide • https://amzn.to/3RPtdLP
Bill Bejeck • Kafka Streams in Action • https://amzn.to/3CGJiiMBluesky
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Tech Truth: Teaching Kids to Code with Sonic Pi • Sam Aaron & James Lewis
This conversation was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.https://gotocph.comSam Aaron - Live Coding Musician & Creator of Sonic PiJames Lewis - Principal Consultant & Technical Director at …
Notas del episodio
This conversation was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.
https://gotocph.com
Sam Aaron - Live Coding Musician & Creator of Sonic Pi
James Lewis - Principal Consultant & Technical Director at Thoughtworks
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Sam
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James
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Links
https://sonic-pi.net
https://twitter.com/sonic_pi
https://github.com/sonic-pi-net/sonic-pi
https://www.ableton.com/en/link
https://hydra.ojack.xyz
DESCRIPTION
Programming isn't just lines of code, it's a gateway to creating music & art. Legends such as Ada Lovelace are proof of that. With the aim to reshape the perception of coding which has traditionally been complex and intimidating, Sam Aaron created Sonic Pi, an open-source, free-to-use platform that empowers users to create music through code.
What began as a humble endeavor has grown exponentially with more than millions of downloads globally and a large number of schools integrating the tool as part of their computing curriculum to teach children how to program.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Sam Aaron & Russell Barnes • Code Music with Sonic Pi • https://amzn.to/4hBRYtC
Hans Gruendel • Making Music with Sonic Pi • https://amzn.to/3oVxGV7
Hans Gruendel • Learn to Program with Sonic PI • https://amzn.to/3qCrLEO
Simon Monk • Raspberry Pi Cookbook • https://amzn.to/43AGPRX
Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team Topologies • http://amzn.to/3sVLyLQ
Forsgren, Humble & Kim • Accelerate: The Science of Lean Software and DevOps • https://amzn.to/3tCz1xOBluesky
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Toad: Your AI Coding Agent Deserves a Better User Interface • Will McGugan & Olimpiu Pop
This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.https://gotopia.techWill McGugan - Creator of Toad & the Python Packages, Rich, Textual & PyFilesystemOlimpiu Pop - Technologist & Tech JournalistORIGINAL TALK …
Notas del episodio
This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.
https://gotopia.tech
Will McGugan - Creator of Toad & the Python Packages, Rich, Textual & PyFilesystem
Olimpiu Pop - Technologist & Tech Journalist
ORIGINAL TALK TITLE
The Python Dev Who Built Rich, Textual & now Toad Just Redesigned How You Talk to AI
Check out more here:
https://gotopia.tech/articles/437
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Will
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https://willmcgugan.github.io
Olimpiu
https://x.com/olimpiupop
https://github.com/zroll
https://www.linkedin.com/in/olimpiupop
Links
https://www.textualize.io
https://www.batrachian.ai
https://github.com/textualize/rich
https://github.com/Textualize/textual
https://zed.dev
https://willmcgugan.github.io/toad-released
https://willmcgugan.github.io/announcing-toad
DESCRIPTION
In this GOTO Unscripted episode, Olimpiu Pop sits down with Will McGugan — Python PSF Fellow and creator of Rich (4+ billion downloads) and Textual — to demo his sabbatical project: Toad, a slick terminal-based universal frontend for AI coding agents.
Will's frustration was simple and justified: every major AI coding tool (Claude Code, Gemini, Codex) was built on top-tier models but wrapped in a UI that looked like it was designed in 2004. Toad fixes that by using the Agent Client Protocol (ACP) as a standardized plug-in layer, giving users elegant prompt editing, proper streaming markdown rendering, beautiful tables, syntax highlighting, and a hybrid shell-plus-AI interface — all in the terminal, where developers already live.
The conversation gets sharply honest when the topic turns to AI and developer craft. Will — a 30-year coding veteran who admits it's not instinctive for him to reach for AI — shares a clear-eyed view of its strengths and limits: AI is extraordinarily fast at anything well-defined and unambiguous, but still struggles with genuinely novel problems.
His conclusion?
Most of what software developers do day-to-day isn't actually novel — it's pattern assembly — and that's precisely where AI shines. The future of coding isn't replacement; it's liberation from the mechanical grind. Oh, and the podcast host literally reading out "music intro here" because stage directions ended up in the transcript? That one's a cautionary tale for the ages.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Will McGugan • Beginning Python Games Development 2nd ed. • https://amzn.to/4ebBfxu
Will McGugan • Beginning Game Development with Python and Pygame • https://amzn.to/4cyVdB3
Sam Keen • Clean Architecture with Python • https://amzn.to/4pBT5g0
Eric Evans • Domain-Driven Design • https://amzn.to/3tnGhwm
Naomi Ceder • The Quick Python Book • https://amzn.to/3zwdDOaBluesky
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Java Cookbook • Ian Darwin & Jeanne Boyarsky
This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.http://gotopia.tech/bookclubIan F. Darwin - Java, Android & Unix Developer, Trainer, Mentor & Author of "Java Cookbook"Jeanne Boyarsky - Oracle Java Champion …
Notas del episodio
This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.
http://gotopia.tech/bookclub
Ian F. Darwin - Java, Android & Unix Developer, Trainer, Mentor & Author of "Java Cookbook"
Jeanne Boyarsky - Oracle Java Champion, Co-Author of "Real-World Java" & "OCP 21 Java Cert Book"
Check out more here:
https://gotopia.tech/episodes/438
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Jeanne
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https://sites.google.com/view/jeanneboyarsky
https://www.selikoff.net
Links
https://javacookbook.org
https://dev.java/community/jcs
DESCRIPTION
In this GOTO Book Club, Java Champion Jeanne Boyarsky interviews Ian F. Darwin — author of one of Java's most enduring reference books, Java Cookbook, now in its fifth edition covering up to Java 25. The conversation traces Ian's extraordinary journey: from writing Java's first commercial training course outside of Sun Microsystems, to meeting Tim O'Reilly at a Unix conference and handing him a chapter on lint, to delivering a class in Houston where the entire room had just been laid off and were using the course as their golden handshake into a new career. Ian talks about the philosophy behind the book — culling a peak 900-page beast down to a tight 600 pages, anchoring tool choices on proven, battle-tested picks like JUnit, Mockito, and logging — and shares his three favourite chapters: Regular Expressions, Object-Oriented Techniques, and Reflection.
The conversation gets sharply honest about AI and the future of the industry. Ian — who uses Claude as his coding assistant and does vibe code — warns that his greatest fear isn't AI taking over the world, but something subtler and more dangerous: companies stopping junior hires because AI can do the work, leaving no one to grow into the deep expertise that retires with the current generation. The parallel risk for books is equally candid: AI was trained on older editions, so the fifth edition is genuinely new and un-scraped territory.
His advice for anyone who has learned the basics of Java?
Don't ask an AI — buy the cookbook, save yourself years of trial and error, and for goodness' sake, read the code before you deploy it. "It's like building an airplane and putting passengers on it without flight testing."
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Ian F. Darwin • Java Cookbook 5th ed. • https://amzn.to/3QH0NZy
Ian F. Darwin • Java Cookbook 1st ed. • https://amzn.to/4sUpPlL
Ian F. Darwin • Checking C Programs with Lint • https://amzn.to/3Q2C69Y
Victor Grazi & Jeanne Boyarsky • Real-World Java • https://amzn.to/4oCEeBR
Jeanne Boyarsky & Scott Selikoff • OCP 21 Java Cert Book • https://amzn.to/4lF8OICBluesky
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The Typo That Broke Production — And Accidentally Created Spring Cloud Contract • Marcin Grzejszczak & Jakub Pilimon
This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.https://gotopia.techMarcin Grzejszczak - Software Engineer at HeroDevs & Java ChampionJakub Pilimon - Software Architect at jPilo & Software Consultant at Bottega …
Notas del episodio
This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.
https://gotopia.tech
Marcin Grzejszczak - Software Engineer at HeroDevs & Java Champion
Jakub Pilimon - Software Architect at jPilo & Software Consultant at Bottega IT Minds
ORIGINAL TALK TITLE
The Typo That Broke Production — And Accidentally Created Spring Cloud Contract
Check out more here:
https://gotopia.tech/articles/435
RESOURCES
Marcin
https://bsky.app/profile/toomuchcoding.com
https://mastodon.social/@[email protected]
https://twitter.com/MGrzejszczak
https://github.com/marcingrzejszczak
https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcin-grzejszczak-15565119
https://toomuchcoding.com
Jakub
https://twitter.com/JakubPilimon
https://github.com/pilloPl
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jakub-pilimon-449b7984
http://pillopl.github.io
Links
https://toomuchcoding.com/post
https://martinfowler.com/articles/consumerDrivenContracts.html
https://www.tomakehurst.com
DESCRIPTION
In this GOTO Unscripted episode, Jakub Pilimon sits down with Marcin Grzejszczak — Java Champion, Spring Cloud Contract contributor, author, mentor, and founder of a rural housewives' circle (yes, really) — to trace a 15+ year career that went from C++ on the Côte d'Azur to becoming one of the key architects of Spring Cloud Contract and the Micrometer Observation API. Marcin shares how real production pain — a junior dev fixing a typo in an API that silently broke every client — gave birth to what would become Spring Cloud Contract, and how he's never shy about calling out his own embarrassing code (complete with a Javadoc that opens with "I'm sorry").
The conversation pivots sharply into 2025 territory, with Marcin sketching out an AI-powered future for contract testing: instead of manually writing contracts (which developers routinely abandon), capture live production traffic, let AI generate the contracts, and let humans do what they're actually good at — reviewing and approving. Wrapping up with observability, Marcin argues the most underrated pillar isn't logs, metrics, or traces — it's context. Without knowing why something happened (a deployment, a business event), raw telemetry data is just noise. Practical, honest, and occasionally self-deprecating: a thoroughly human conversation in the age of AI.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Marcin Grzejszczak • Mockito Cookbook • https://amzn.to/4rXOrtf
Marcin Grzejszczak • Instant Mockito • https://amzn.to/4lV2ePQ
Sam Newman • Building Microservices • https://amzn.to/3dMPbOs
Sam Newman • Monolith to Microservices • https://amzn.to/2Nml96E
Roy Osherove • The Art of Unit Testing • https://bit.ly/3obiKNB
Charity Majors, Liz Fong-Jones & George Miranda • Observability Engineering • https://amzn.to/38scbmaBluesky
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Learning API Styles • Lukasz Dynowski & Sam Newman
This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.http://gotopia.tech/bookclubLukasz Dynowski - Independent Consultant & Co-Author of "Learning API Styles"Sam Newman - Author of "Building Microservices" & …
Notas del episodio
This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.
http://gotopia.tech/bookclub
Lukasz Dynowski - Independent Consultant & Co-Author of "Learning API Styles"
Sam Newman - Author of "Building Microservices" & "Monolith to Microservices"
Check out more here:
https://gotopia.tech/episodes/436
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Lukasz
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Sam
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Links
https://www.youtube.com/@ldynia1
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRkB-vSK4koOHYIhpKXuXpipVpByEKuPu
https://learningapistyles.com
https://github.com/ldynia/learning-api-styles
https://nordicapis.com/the-bezos-api-mandate-amazons-manifesto-for-externalization
https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/1176617.1176622
DESCRIPTION
In this GOTO Book Club episode, Sam Newman — author of "Building Microservices" — sits down with Lukasz Dynowski, co-author of "Learning API Styles", for a refreshingly low-level deep dive into a subject most developers think they already understand. The book deliberately starts from the network layer up — transmission modes, TCP, protocol stacks — rather than jumping straight to REST and GraphQL, because, as Lukasz explains, most API problems only become visible when you understand the substrate beneath them. The conversation covers the full spectrum: public vs internal APIs, the Bezos API Mandate moment, why treating your API as a product is non-negotiable, and why the choice between binary and textual protocols is never as obvious as performance benchmarks suggest.
The real gold comes in two moments. First, Lukasz lays out a crisp checklist for what makes a good API — audience-awareness, maintainability, efficiency, intuitiveness, resilience, security, testability, and documentation that actually matches behavior. Second, Sam shares a war story about a credit derivative system where the only way to figure out who was accessing the database was to turn off the credentials and wait for angry phone calls.
The lesson: context shapes every trade-off, there's no universal right answer between REST, gRPC, WebSockets, or messaging, and the best API decision is the one that fits your situation — not the one that fits the conference talk.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Lukasz Dynowski • Learning API Styles • https://amzn.to/3PFembK
Sam Newman • Building Resilient Distributed Systems • https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/building-resilient-distributed/9781098163532
Sam Newman • Monolith to Microservices • https://amzn.to/2Nml96E
Sam Newman • Building Microservices • https://amzn.to/3dMPbOs
Ronnie Mitra & Irakli Nadareishvili • Microservices: Up and Running• https://amzn.to/3c4HmmLBluesky
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A Common-Sense Guide to AI Engineering • Jay Wengrow & Kris Jenkins
This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.http://gotopia.tech/bookclubJay Wengrow - Author of “A Common-Sense Guide to AI Engineering” & CEO of ActualizeKris Jenkins - Lifelong Computer Geek and …
Notas del episodio
This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.
http://gotopia.tech/bookclub
Jay Wengrow - Author of “A Common-Sense Guide to AI Engineering” & CEO of Actualize
Kris Jenkins - Lifelong Computer Geek and Podcast Host
RESOURCES
Jay
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaywengrow
https://www.commonsensedev.com
Kris
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https://twitter.com/krisajenkins
https://www.linkedin.com/in/krisjenkins
https://github.com/krisajenkins
http://blog.jenkster.com
DESCRIPTION
In this GOTO Book Club episode, host Kris Jenkins sits down with Jay Wengrow — founder of coding bootcamp Actualize and author of the bestselling Common-Sense Guide to Data Structures and Algorithms — to dig into his latest book, A Common-Sense Guide to AI Engineering. Jay demystifies how AI agents actually work: at heart, they're a clever hack where your code intercepts an LLM's text output, watches for special notation, and triggers real functions when it spots them. From there, the conversation expands into guardrails (regex, judge LLMs, and specialist ML models), multi-agent architectures for complex tasks, and a hands-on example of a 150-line podcast-generating app built entirely from scratch — no framework required.
The real throughline is a pragmatic, sceptical take on the current AI tooling landscape. Jay argues that frameworks can lock you into patterns that haven't been proven yet, and that the field is too new to know which abstractions are genuinely worth having. His rule of thumb: reach for a framework only when it will do something meaningfully better than you can — not just faster. The book was deliberately written around fundamentals rather than specific tools, so it ages well even as the ecosystem moves at breakneck speed. The conclusion is refreshingly grounded: understand the LLM's inherent limitations, build the middle layer thoughtfully, and don't outsource your system prompts to anyone — or anything.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Jay Wengrow • A Common-Sense Guide to AI Engineering • https://pragprog.com/titles/jwpaieng
Jay Wengrow • A Common-Sense Guide to Data Structures and Algorithms • https://amzn.to/4bPiTjd
Jay Wengrow • A Common-Sense Guide to Data Structures & Algorithms in Python • https://amzn.to/3PpwtlT
Jay Wengrow • A Common-Sense Guide to Data Structures and Algorithms in JavaScript • https://amzn.to/4dDSZBlBluesky
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Beyond the Hype: What AI Actually Can (and Can't) Do • Jodie Burchell & Michelle Frost
This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.https://gotopia.techJodie Burchell - Senior Data Science Developer Advocate at JetBrainsMichelle Frost - AI Advocate at JetBrainsCheck out more …
Notas del episodio
This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.
https://gotopia.tech
Jodie Burchell - Senior Data Science Developer Advocate at JetBrains
Michelle Frost - AI Advocate at JetBrains
Check out more here:
https://gotopia.tech/articles/431
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Jodie
https://bsky.app/profile/t-redactyl.bsky.social
https://fosstodon.org/@t_redactyl
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodieburchell
https://github.com/t-redactyl
https://t-redactyl.io
Michelle
https://bsky.app/profile/aiwithmichelle.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-frost-dev
https://aiwithmichelle.com
Links
https://www.youtube.com/@Asianometry
https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.01547
https://softwareengineeringproductivity.stanford.edu
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Michelle Frost and Jodie Burchell - both developer advocates at JetBrains — sit down for a candid, wide-ranging conversation about the state of AI. Drawing on Jodie's unusual path from clinical psychology to biostatistics to NLP, and Michelle's background in machine learning fairness and AI ethics consulting, the two offer a measured, research-grounded perspective on generative AI's real capabilities and limitations. They trace historical parallels between today's AI boom and earlier 'AI summers,' unpack the contested definitions of AI and AGI, make the case for why foundational machine learning knowledge still matters, and examine what the evidence actually says about AI's impact on developer productivity.
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Mark Coeckelbergh • AI Ethics • https://amzn.to/3SuXUbY
Debbie Sue Jancis • AI Ethics • https://amzn.to/44yuEbR
Alex Castrounis • AI for People and Business • https://amzn.to/3NYKKTo
Phil Winder • Reinforcement Learning • https://amzn.to/3t1S1VZBluesky
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Kubernetes at the Edge • Charles Humble & Hannah Foxwell
This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.http://gotopia.tech/bookclubCheck out more here:https://gotopia.tech/episodes/432Hannah Foxwell - Independent Consultant & Founder of "AI for the rest of …
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This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.
http://gotopia.tech/bookclub
Check out more here:
https://gotopia.tech/episodes/432
Hannah Foxwell - Independent Consultant & Founder of "AI for the rest of us"
Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant
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Charles
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Hannah
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DESCRIPTION
Hannah Foxwell sits down with Charles Humble - speaker, advisor, podcast host, and author - to explore his e-book "Kubernetes at the Edge". They cover what "edge computing" actually means, why it matters across industries from precision agriculture to healthcare and retail, how to approach vendor selection and day-two operations, and why sustainability must be central to how we build and deploy technology. The conversation closes with a frank and thoughtful discussion about the responsibilities of the tech industry in the age of generative AI.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Charles Humble • Kubernetes at the Edge • https://www.conissaunce.com/kubernetes-edge-ebook
Charles Humble • Professional Skills for Software Engineers • https://conissaunce.com/professional-skills-shortcut
Charles Humble • The Developer's Guide to Cloud Infrastructure, Efficiency & Sustainability • https://conissaunce.com/sustainability-ebookBluesky
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Every Software Org is Dysfunctional • R. Parsons, G. Hohpe, B. O'Reilly & A. Harmel-Law
This presentation was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.https://gotocph.comRebecca Parsons - CTO Emerita at ThoughtworksGregor Hohpe - Author of "Platform Strategy", "The Software Architect Elevator", et …
Notas del episodio
This presentation was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.
https://gotocph.com
Rebecca Parsons - CTO Emerita at Thoughtworks
Gregor Hohpe - Author of "Platform Strategy", "The Software Architect Elevator", et al.
Barry O'Reilly - Founder at Black Tulip Tech and Author of "Residues" & "The Architect's Paradox"
Andrew Harmel-Law - Technical Principal at Thoughtworks & Author of "Facilitating Software Architecture"
RESOURCES
Rebecca
https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-parsons-871491
https://twitter.com/rebeccaparsons
Gregor
https://twitter.com/ghohpe
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ghohpe
http://eaipatterns.com
https://architectelevator.com
Barry
https://bsky.app/profile/technologytulip.bsky.social
https://www.linkedin.com/in/barry-o-reilly-b924657
https://www.blacktulip.se
Andrew
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https://twit.social/@ahl
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https://github.com/andrewharmellaw
https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewharmellaw
https://andrewharmellaw.github.io
ABSTRACT
Speakers interview each other on topics that matter to them. [...]
Read the full abstract here:
https://gotocph.com/2025/sessions/3782
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Ford, Parsons, Kua & Sadalage • Building Evolutionary Architectures 2nd Edition • https://amzn.to/3lqr5Q8
Gregor Hohpe • Platform Strategy • https://amzn.to/4cxfYdb
Gregor Hohpe • The Software Architect Elevator • https://amzn.to/3F6d2ax
Barry O'Reilly • Residues • https://leanpub.com/residuality
Barry O'Reilly • The Architect's Paradox • https://leanpub.com/architectsparadox
Andrew Harmel-Law • Facilitating Software Architecture • https://amzn.eu/d/5kZKVfUBluesky
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