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Nuevo#59 KiNK on playing live, ghost production, and the Bulgarian raves of the 90s4 de noviembre de 2026 · 55 min
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Paul Rose aka the musician, DJ, and label boss known as Scuba talks to people of significance from the world of electronic music about their experiences, observations, and attempts to cultivate a life for themselves in the murky and sometimes treacherous waters of the music industry.

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Episodios 236

  1. #59 KiNK on playing live, ghost production, and the Bulgarian raves of the 90s

    55 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 59

    I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Grab a ticket here: https://ra.co/events/2527068Sign up for free to join our community.--Up the front, a few words of appreciation for Juan Atkins …

    Notas del episodio

    I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Grab a ticket here: https://ra.co/events/2527068


    Sign up for free to join our community.


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    Up the front, a few words of appreciation for Juan Atkins who very sadly passed away last weekend.


    KiNK is one of the most beloved and respected live performers in electronic music. Over the last 15 years or so he's broken new ground in improvisation and energy in bringing house and techno to the live space. He's also a great producer and a man who brings a wealth of experience to any discussion. So a great guest on the podcast!


    We discuss his performance methods and how they've changed over time. The scourge of ghost production in electronic music, and why people are so much more angry about people using AI. And we also get deep into his formative years in the post-Soviet Bulgarian rave scene.


    This is a good one, get involved!


    This episode was recorded at ADE 2026.


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    Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club


    You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/


    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    00:00 Intro and Juan Atkins

    10:39 Live performance methods

    31:04 Ghost production and AI

    42:59 Bulgaria in the 90s

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  2. #58 Dusky on Deep House, Postdubstep, and the future of dance music

    1 h 12 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 58

    I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Grab a ticket here: https://ra.co/events/2527068Sign up for free to join our community.--Dusky are a production duo from the UK. Originally emerging …

    Notas del episodio

    I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Grab a ticket here: https://ra.co/events/2527068


    Sign up for free to join our community.


    --

    Dusky are a production duo from the UK. Originally emerging on Anjunadeep with their debut album in 2011, they've been an important part of the UK dance scene in the past two decades with albums on Universal and their own label.


    Their latest full-length, Signals, is out now and sees them back on the label where it all began.


    We discuss their production process, the challenges of making a record outside their usual genre, and the way the new album came together. And we also cover their early years making DnB, the UK house explosion of the early 2010s, the golden era of postdubstep, and what the future may hold over the next decade.


    Get involved, this is a good one!


    --

    Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club


    You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/


    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    00:00 Intro

    03:00 New album - Signals

    20:00 AI in music

    30:00 Early years

    37:00 Deep house and Postdubstep

    47:00 Playing live

    01:00:00 Problems in music today

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  3. #57 Sophie Lloyd: East 17, getting pigeonholed, and the London Records archive

    60 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 57

    I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Grab a ticket here: https://ra.co/events/2527068Sign up for free to join our community.--Sophie Lloyd is a DJ and producer from the UK. A staple of …

    Notas del episodio

    I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Grab a ticket here: https://ra.co/events/2527068


    Sign up for free to join our community.


    --

    Sophie Lloyd is a DJ and producer from the UK. A staple of Defected Records and associated labels and promotions, this year she was invited to dig through the archives of London Records which resulted in standout EP 'London Revisited' - remixes of classics and deep cuts from the storied label.


    We discuss all that of course, and also her journey from DJing at house parties, corporate events and eventually clubs and festivals, and getting into the world of production.


    This is a good one, get involved!


    --

    Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club


    You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/


    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    00:00 Intro

    04:00 Early years and general scene

    19:00 London Records project

    39:45 More on production

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  4. #56 Nathan Fake: Border Community, playing live, and the beauty of vintage Cubase

    55 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 56

    I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Grab a ticket here: https://ra.co/events/2527068Sign up for free to join our community.--Nathan Fake is a producer and live performer from the UK. He …

    Notas del episodio

    I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Grab a ticket here: https://ra.co/events/2527068


    Sign up for free to join our community.


    --

    Nathan Fake is a producer and live performer from the UK. He has released albums on Border Community, Ninja Tune, via his own channels, and most recently through French label InFiné.


    That latest album, Evaporator, is discussed during the conversation, as well as his wider journey through production processes and methods of work. We discover which ancient version of Cubase is still his go-to DAW, and which synths and other studio objects are most often used in his tracks.


    We also talk about his live set, which by his own admission is actually pretty good.


    This is a good one with a guest we've wanted to have on for ages. Get involved!



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    --

    Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club


    You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/


    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    00:00 Intro

    03:45 Fitting into the scene

    07:30 Are albums relevant again?

    12:40 Studio methods

    26:30 Border Community and early career

    47:30 Playing live

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  5. #55 Gavilán Rayna Russom: politics, DJing, analog synths, and LCD Soundsystem

    1 h 8 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 55

    I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Grab a ticket here: https://ra.co/events/2527068Sign up for free to join our community.--Gavilán Rayna Russom is a producer, DJ, and …

    Notas del episodio

    I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Grab a ticket here: https://ra.co/events/2527068


    Sign up for free to join our community.


    --


    Gavilán Rayna Russom is a producer, DJ, and interdisciplinary artist based in New York. A former member of LCD Soundsystem, she has a new album under her Black Meteoric Star alias entitled Wet.


    We discuss her time working at DFA and eventually joining and then leaving LCD Soundsystem, her previous time as an analog synth engineer, as well as the new album and the Black Meteoric Star alias more generally.


    We also get into the political situation in the US and the way it affects her work, and also her long term journey as a DJ from playing the high school prom all the way to Berghain.


    This is a good one, get involved!


    --


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    --

    Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club


    You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/


    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    00:00 Intro

    04:00 LCD Soundsystem

    21:00 Music and current politics

    34:00 Recording methods and the new album

    51:00 How to be a DJ

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  6. #54 Jend: new ways of connecting music to people

    54 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 54

    I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Sign up for tix here: https://ra.co/pre/2527068Sign up for free to join our community.--Jend is a producer and DJ who has built an impressive …

    Notas del episodio

    I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Sign up for tix here: https://ra.co/pre/2527068


    Sign up for free to join our community.


    --


    Jend is a producer and DJ who has built an impressive following on streaming platforms and social media using a very interesting set of strategies adapting from his time in drop shipping. So we are getting deep into the weeds of digital music marketing on this week's podcast, and while it gets a bit technical in places this is a really interesting conversation from the perspective of building an audience completely independently in a way that just wasn't possible before the digital model.


    He offers a version of his strategy via his Intellijend platform, which automates many of the processes and makes the whole thing a lot more manageable for the typical expert DAW technician who has never opened Facebook ad manager.


    We talk about how he came up with these approaches to music marketing and how to implement them, building them into a product for other artists to use, and also the necessity for music to live in the real world and different ways to achieve this in a similar DIY way.


    This is the antidote to moaning about Spotify and telling people to buy CDs... get involved!


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    Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club


    You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/


    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    00:00 Intro

    04:30 Jend

    09:10 How to market a song

    26:10 Cynicism, algorithms, and publishing

    40:00 Dance music in the real world

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  7. #53: How to be a DJ

    37 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 53

    I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Sign up for tix here: https://ra.co/pre/2527068Sign up for free to join our community.--On the podcast this week...What you need to do to become a DJ …

    Notas del episodio

    I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Sign up for tix here: https://ra.co/pre/2527068


    Sign up for free to join our community.


    --


    On the podcast this week...


    What you need to do to become a DJ in 2026. I mean a good DJ.


    Why you should learn to beat match, preferably on vinyl.


    Why you should learn to use Ableton.


    Why you should take digital marketing seriously.


    Why you should respect the worst aspects of the industry.


    This is not an exhaustive study, but it does contain some pretty good pointers.


    The Resident DJ article mentioned: https://saxe-coulson.medium.com/the-resident-dj-is-infrastructure-too-b2cc760c6f69


    The Manual by The KLF: https://www.scribd.com/document/955029/KLF-the-Manual


    Back next week with a guest!


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    --

    Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club


    You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/


    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    00:00 Intro

    01:10 DJing on hard mode

    04:40 How to be a DJ

    06:11 The techniques

    10:35 The canon

    12:20 The basics of Ableton

    13:55 Warm up and closing

    17:00 Being the headliner

    19:45 Tell your story

    23:20 Identity and tribes

    25:25 Is all publicity good publicity?

    30:50 The KLF and The Odyssey

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  8. #52: Did the promise of AI-human hybrids drive the deals for Distrokid and Kobalt?

    38 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 52

    On this episode...Why Distrokid selling to CVC will lead to more AI music.What Kobalt selling to Primary Wave means for the majors.Why the industry is counting on the hybrid musicians of the future.Were the …

    Notas del episodio

    On this episode...


    Why Distrokid selling to CVC will lead to more AI music.


    What Kobalt selling to Primary Wave means for the majors.


    Why the industry is counting on the hybrid musicians of the future.


    Were the Odyssey casting decisions part of the marketing campaign?


    And what Suki Waterhouse could learn from Boy George...!


    Read my 2000 word essay on the Burial / dubstep conundrum: https://www.patreon.com/scubaofficial/posts/eyes-back-puzzle-164702147


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    NEW MERCH STORE: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping!


    Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop


    --

    Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club


    You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/


    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    00:00 Intro

    02:59 Releases roundup

    07:40 CVC buys Distrokid

    15:27 Primary Wave buys Kobalt

    21:10 AI copyright regulation

    30:57 Suki Waterhouse and Boy George

    35:50 Is Christopher Nolan a troll

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  9. #51: Is the John Summit vs Pete Tong beef real?

    31 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 51

    Even if it's not just a very effective bit of marketing, John Summit should definitely turn heel. On this episode we also discuss other notable examples of music industry creative stunts including Chuck D vs …

    Notas del episodio

    Even if it's not just a very effective bit of marketing, John Summit should definitely turn heel.


    On this episode we also discuss other notable examples of music industry creative stunts including Chuck D vs Flava Flav, Fifty Cent vs Kanye, Green Day vs The Network, and The KLF vs a million pounds.


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    NEW MERCH STORE: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping!


    Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop


    --

    Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club


    You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/


    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    00:00 Intro

    02:41 John Summit vs Pete Tong

    10:00 Chuck D vs Flava Flav

    15:12 Green Day vs The Network

    20:06 Fifty Cent vs Kanye West

    23:05 Joaquin Phoenix

    25:24 The KLF vs a million pounds

    30:12 Conclusions

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  10. #50: Dance Music Deserves To Be Destroyed By AI

    54 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 50

    No, really it does. In this episode we discuss a series of articles recommended by friend-of-the-show Darren Hemmings in this substack post.As the title suggests, we consider the ethics of AI music from two …

    Notas del episodio

    No, really it does.


    In this episode we discuss a series of articles recommended by friend-of-the-show Darren Hemmings in this substack post.


    As the title suggests, we consider the ethics of AI music from two separate angles.


    And finally we look at the increasing dominance of standup comedy in the ecosystem of live events.


    I will never stand being accused of cynical ragebait!


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    NEW MERCH STORE: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping!


    Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop


    --

    Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club


    You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/


    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    00:00 Intro

    03:58 Changes in the business of social media

    08:08 dBridge Substack post

    16:35 Is algorithmic influence any different to human influence?

    19:44 Why musicians hate the press

    24:52 Dance music deserves to be destroyed by AI

    35:03 The success of standup comedy

    41:37 Transgressive comedy vs music

    51:48 Conclusions

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  11. #49: Thoughts on Trillionaires

    39 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 49

    What does the new age of oligarchy mean for the future of art and the cultural sector?And what can we learn from previous era of extreme inequality?Weighty question on this episode of the podcast...--NEW MERCH …

    Notas del episodio

    What does the new age of oligarchy mean for the future of art and the cultural sector?


    And what can we learn from previous era of extreme inequality?


    Weighty question on this episode of the podcast...


    --


    NEW MERCH STORE: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping!


    Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop


    --

    Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club


    You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/


    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    00:00 Intro

    02:30 Elon, Tesla, and SpaceX

    07:23 The Gilded Age

    10:34 Andrew Carnegie

    27:27 Busting the Trusts

    31:24 Help needed now

    36:36 How left wing are you?


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  12. #48: I was WRONG about music and corporate money

    29 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 48

    NEW MERCH STORE: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping!Visit the store here …

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    NEW MERCH STORE: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping!


    Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop


    --

    Corporate money is the wellspring of great art... discuss!


    Also, the demise of Nina, Juno Download, and eventually Subvert.


    --

    Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club


    You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/


    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    00:00 Intro

    03:18 Money and art

    11:04 Downloads are dead

    23.33 Conclusions

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  13. #47 Carl Craig: from Motown to Techno via The Electrifying Mojo

    1 h 35 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 47

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    Carl Craig is a producer, DJ, and label owner from Detroit. 


    A feature-length documentary, Desire: The Carl Craig Story, is available to stream now. 


    Listen to the reissue of 'Meditations' LP.


    We discuss the history of Detroit music, the development of techno, the influence of other areas of popular culture on dance music, and the breadth of his musical experiences from playing guitar in bands as a teenager to being a current artist-in-residence at Michigan State University.


    This is a conversation with a true legend who does not disappoint! 


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    00:00 Intro

    02:00 The documentary

    07:15 Judging artists' work

    14:08 Jungle and the UK rave scene

    20:29 Breakthrough and early material

    25:20 Popular culture and dance music

    31:55 Collaboration and solo work

    35:48 Bring back guitars

    41:55 The Electrifying Mojo

    54:46 Techno and Motown

    01:01:58 Frankfurt vs Berlin

    01:08:50 Black music and diversity

    01:19:47 Artist in residence at MSUFCU

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  14. Bonus - Singles Club: 2 minute reviews of the UK Top 10

    28 min

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  15. #46 The truth about Ticketmaster, and why Chaotic Good's unscrupulous marketing campaigns are actually good for music

    33 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 46

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    The bulk of this episode is a deep dive on the Live Nation / Ticketmaster situation.


    We look at the system of practices that has developed since the merger in 2010, the recent ruling, and the possible future arrangements in a world where the ruling (currently subject to appeal) is put into practice.


    But separately, we also discuss why the Chaotic Good marketing approach is actually a good thing for music...!


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    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


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    00:00 Support the podcast

    03:00 Is Chaotic Good actually good?

    07:28 Ticketing

    31:41 Closing

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  16. #45 AI sceptics and the boomers who want to save independent music

    35 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 45

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    This week on Music Not Diving we decouple from the Youtube feed and get into the ongoing debate around AI. Sceptics like Ed Zitron have come to prominence with their doubts about the viability of business models of the big AI firms, but in music Suno is busily destroying artistry and the effect of the general LLMs has upended other bits of the industry too.


    So what does this all mean?


    And we also learn about the ceiling of the Rolls Royce Phantom and what that might mean for vintage mix consoles.


    Bob Lefsetz piece on the Indie Alliance: lefsetz.com/wordpress/2026/03/31/the-indie-alliance/


    Shawn's referenced piece: firstfloor.substack.com/p/the-majors-are-ushering-in-an-era


    Ted Gioia referenced piece: www.honest-broker.com/p/four-steps-to-hell


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    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    00:00 Intro

    02:00 Future of the pod

    06:50 The Indie Alliance

    12:30 Major labels and AI

    15:00 AI scepticism

    20:17 New Suno model

    29:20 Rolls Royce and music

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  17. #44 Watches and musical wonders: the Rolex-ification of music

    33 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 44

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    What does the music industry have in common with Swiss watches? Quite a lot, as we discover on this solo episode of the podcast...


    The latest Morgan Stanley Swiss watch industry report can be viewed here.


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    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    00:00 Intro

    05:52 The current landscape

    10:08 Volume vs luxury

    14.07 The key players

    19.11 How the successful acts do it

    24.32 Can listeners pick up the slack?

    27.10 The real problem

    30.20 Conclusions

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  18. #43 Techno in India Part II: FILM on the challenges of making music in India

    52 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 43

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    Music Not Diving touched down in Bengaluru, aka Bangalore, for the opening night of DJ El Sid's Ends & Means party, and also to record podcasts at the Bangalore International Centre with two of the most important people in the contemporary techno scene in India. This is part II...


    Sanil Sudan, aka FILM, is one of the best electronic producers to come out of India. Based in New Delhi, he has been involved in all aspects of the scene over the past decade and more: DJing, promoting parties, running one of India’s first booking agencies (UnMute), as well as making beats as FILM and other aliases including the techno-focused Tyrell Dub Corp. '


    We discuss his production process, differing approaches to studio techniques including classic synths and sampling, hidden resources to be found on Youtube, the challenges facing Indian producers, the development of a distinctive Indian sound, as well as his time spent in Berlin as part of the Border Movement Residency (BMR) program. 


    This is a great conversation with a big talent operating in a difficult environment. Get involved! 


    Check out El Sid mixes on Soundcloud. 


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    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


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    00:00 Intro

    03:10 FILM

    06:11 From pro-gamer to promoter

    08:30 The "No more parties in Delhi" experiment

    11:45 Learning Music Theory mid-Career

    15:45 AI Slop and the value of human emotion

    17:54 The cultural necessity of sampling

    22:00 Studio talk

    27:00 The Berlin border movement residency

    32:30 Post-COVID clubbing & Spotify fatigue

    37:30 The corporatisation of Boiler Room

    41:45 Forging an authentic Indian sound

    49:10 The global hustle for Indian DJs

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  19. #42 Techno in India Part I: Kohra on building a scene from the ground up

    56 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 42

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    Music Not Diving touched down in Bengaluru, aka Bangalore, for the opening night of DJ El Sid's Ends & Means party, and also to record podcasts at the Bangalore International Centre with two of the most important people in the contemporary techno scene in India. 


    Kohra is a key figure in the modern iteration of techno in India. His label, Qilla Records, has been one of the most important outposts for Indian producers since 2011. And as a DJ, he has established himself as a similarly important voice across clubs and festivals both in India and on the global circuit. He's also a very interesting guy with a lot to say on the state of the scene right now, and also the history.


    We discuss the scene in India compared to Europe and the US, the development of techno culture in India, the advance of western dance music brands into Asia, today's challenges in running labels, and his history in different areas of music.


    This conversation is a great insight into the workings of the scene in India... get involved!

    Part II will air next week.


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    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


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    00:00 Intro

    02:45 Kohra

    07:30 Local scenes

    14:00 Western club brands in India

    21:30 Politics and boycott culture

    27:50 Kohra's journey into music

    33:35 Production

    42:08 Spending time in Melbourne

    44:40 Jalebee Cartel

    47:10 Running Qilla Records

    53:30 Future of the scene in India

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  20. #41 Frank Wiedemann: Âme Live and the new wave of Berlin clubbing

    1 h 30 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 41

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    Frank Wiedemann is one half of legendary German house duo Âme (he does the live shows and can probably be described as the lead producer). He's also a key figure in the Innervisions label, the Dixon/Âme axis, and also a member of other groups include Howling. 


    We discuss the new wave of electronic music nightlife in Berlin, the responsibilities of established acts to the wider scene, his processes in making music, and performance both as Âme and also in improvisational settings such as previous pod guest Sebastian Mullaert's Circle Of Live. 


    This is a good one, get involved!


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    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    00:00 Intro

    03:50 Berlin nightlife isn't dead

    07:56 Events vs. clubbing

    11:01 Should bigger artists give back?

    14:18 The paradox of playing live

    22:22 The new Ame album

    31:30 Spotify is social media

    38:14 From Jazz clubs to Robert Johnson

    49:00 Innervisions at the Royal Albert Hall

    55:49 The art of the 8-hour jam

    01:04:52 Teaching and retreats

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  21. #40 Slipmatt: the rave revolution, hardcore vs jungle, and making an all-time classic

    1 h 17 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 40

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    Slipmatt is one of the most important DJs in the history of dance music. From his first major gig at Raindance in 1989, he came to be known as the Godfather Of Hardcore, becoming synonymous with the genre that typified the UK rave sound in the early 90s. His 'SL2' project, with DJ Lime, yield two top-ten hits including the genre-defining 'On A Ragga Tip' that reached number 2 in the UK singes chart in May 1992.


    He was also instrumental in emergence Jungle from the Hardcore scene, and produced classics including 'Hear Me' which typify the linearity between the two genres.


    We discuss the pre-acid house period, the game-changing nature of the rave explosion both in music and society, and we get into his personal journey from bedroom producer to Top Of The Pops.


    This is a great conversation with a true legend of UK dance music, get involved!


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    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


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    00:00 Intro

    02:00 Episode start

    04:55 What “Old School” really means

    06:25 The split between Hardcore & Jungle

    11:30 Bridging the divide

    13:10 Bedroom producer beginnings

    17:20 The lost art of studio mentorship

    18:40 DJ Culture & skill obsession

    24:15 First raves & Acid House reality

    26:15 Birth of Raindance

    27:40 Illegal → Legal Raves

    29:10 Becoming a National DJ

    30:40 Independence and management

    32:10 The end of Illegal raving

    33:10 Rave culture as a social & political movement

    35:30 Media & moral panic

    37:30 Policing, laws & the Criminal Justice Act Era

    41:30 Legacy of early Rave culture

    43:30 Personal reflections & looking back

    47:00 Clearing samples

    50:24 Top of the Pops and meeting Kylie

    56:27 The Prodigy

    59:31 Rage club and Jungle

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  22. #39 Recondite: the art and culture of dance music, and can AI produce groundbreaking music?

    1 h 21 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 39

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    Recondite is one of our favourite guests and here we welcome him for his third appearance on the podcast.


    We discuss his recent performances at arguably the world's hottest music venue - the Sphere in Las Vegas, and also the Pyramids of Giza in Egypt. And we get the inside story on what's going on in melodic techno, an area of dance music that has attracted some of the biggest audiences while being largely ignored by the press.


    The issue of dance music and popular culture as art is also discussed in detail, as well as the continuing developments in AI in music - both in ethical terms and in the practice of making music.


    This is a great conversation, get involved!


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    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


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  23. #38 Are musicians cheating with AI? And is the DJ/Producer model broken?

    20 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 38

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    Following on from the 'End Of Recorded Music?' episode, this week we take a look at some of the surrounding issues. This is the first time I've done a solo episode speaking to camera and there are some inconsistencies which show up in the audio... check out the video version of this episode on YouTube (or if you're on Spotify then it'll be available here too).


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    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


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  24. #037 Sister Bliss: Faithless after Maxi, raving in the 90s, and the power of a global hit

    1 h 13 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 37

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    Sister Bliss is the musical driving force behind one of the biggest dance acts of all time - Faithless.


    We discuss her early period as a DJ, linking up with Rollo and launching Cheeky Records from home, meeting the late, great Maxi Jazz and forming Faithless. And of course we get into the hits and the differing process of music making over the years.


    This is a great conversation with a true legend of UK music!


    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    03:00 Sister Bliss

    05:10 Releasing music now vs then

    07:05 Champion sound & the double-album idea

    09:15 Invisible gatekeepers

    10:35 Forever Free, Maxi & the meaning of freedom

    12:10 Vinyl culture & record-shop life

    23:30 Early musical influences

    29:45 The cassette demo that changed everything

    31:10 Camden studios, sushi & late nights

    33:00 Meeting Maxi

    36:40 DJing, dropping out & taking the leap

    41:10 Cheeky Records

    48:00 Making the first album

    55:30 Making music now: tools, plugins & overload

    01:00:40 The future of creativity

    01:02:45 Memory, archives & coming full circle


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    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    03:00 Sister Bliss

    05:10 Releasing music now vs then

    07:05 Champion sound & the double-album idea

    09:15 Invisible gatekeepers

    10:35 Forever Free, Maxi & the meaning of freedom

    12:10 Vinyl culture & record-shop life

    23:30 Early musical influences

    29:45 The cassette demo that changed everything

    31:10 Camden studios, sushi & late nights

    33:00 Meeting Maxi

    36:40 DJing, dropping out & taking the leap

    41:10 Cheeky Records

    48:00 Making the first album

    55:30 Making music now: tools, plugins & overload

    01:00:40 The future of creativity

    01:02:45 Memory, archives & coming full circle

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  25. #036 Johnno Burgess: Bugged Out founder on how to run a rave brand for 30 years

    1 h 19 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 36

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    Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    Bugged Out is one of the UK's best-loved and most enduring club brands. From humble beginnings in Manchester, through Sankeys, Cream in Liverpool, fabric and The End in London, right the way through to their enormous 30th birthday at the 15k capacity Drumsheds in London, this is a promotion that has consistently done things right in terms of the music and the vibe. 


    Johnno Burgess is one of the co-founders, and also the former editor of the legendary Jockey Slut magazine which originally launched the night that became Bugged Out. 

    We discuss the history of the event with its many successes and occasional failures, the changing landscape over the last 30 years, how they booked Daft Punk for free, and we also get into the golden era of the dance press and how it looks in the current era.


    This is a great conversation with a relatively unsung hero of UK dance culture. Get involved! 


    Grab the new Bugged Out book here


    --

    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    02:13 Episode start

    02:50 Bugged Out at 30

    04:54 Changing fashion on the floor

    07:28 The golden age of dance music journalism

    12:45 Influencers are the new fanzines

    18:08 The birth of Jockey Slut

    24:00 From magazine to club night

    27:30 The Manchester club scene

    30:49 Closure of clubs and pop-up spaces

    36:10 Trust and curation

    44:12 Nation, Cream and Liverpool

    47:20 First Bugged Out Weekender

    52:30 Festival curation

    55:00 Moving away from Liverpool

    59:05 The End - 8 defining years

    01:02:00 When clubs started disappearing

    01:03:30 Drumsheds, Printworks and mega-rooms

    01:05:50 The role of private equity

    01:13:00 Highs and lows

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  26. #035 Jagz Kooner: Weatherall, Sabres Of Paradise, and quitting while you're ahead

    1 h 23 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 35

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    Notas del episodio

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    Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    The Sabres Of Paradise were formed in 1992 by Andrew Weatherall, Gary Burns, and our guest on today's episode Jagz Kooner. They burned brightly but briefly, initially disbanding in 1995, but have now reformed (without the late Weatherall) for what Jagz says will be a limited time. 


    We discuss the story of the Sabres, but also Jagz' wider career which covers a lot of ground as a remixer and producer. And we also get into his thoughts on today's scene, and the changes in music making he's witnessed in four decades making tunes. 


    This is a good one! 


    --

    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    02:13 Episode start

    02:44 Sabres reunion

    08:45 Playing Sydney Opera House

    11:38 From seated silence to dancing chaos

    13:05 This song changed lives

    15:58 Post-Sabres life

    17:06 Early DJ roots

    21:36 Machines over bands

    25:45 A very Jagz birthday

    29:24 This machine will change the world

    36:02 The bootleg that changed everything

    37:30 Andrew Weatherall

    45:00 Touring and burnout

    47:30 After the split

    50:00 Producing for others

    59:30 Legacy and influence

    01:03:00 The meaning of the reunion

    01:07:00 Honouring Andrew Weatherall

    01:11:00 Looking forward

    01:15:00 Advice for young producers

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  27. The unfolding AI debate: the End Of Recorded Music?

    52 minTemporada 2

    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and …

    Notas del episodio

    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!


    --

    Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    This is a re-up of a podcast we released in mid-2023 which sought to set the table for what was then the coming debate on AI in music and the wider socio-economic world. 

    It's worth returning to because it covers the big issues that I anticipate will be covered on the podcast this coming year, and takes a look at some of the initial intuitions coming into this highly weird period of human history. 


    This stuff isn't going anywhere, and it poses serious questions for what the music industry is for. What are musicians doing making music in this environment? What's the purpose of music in of itself? 


    These are questions I have been asking myself over the last few weeks, and there are no easy answers...


    --

    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    02:30 AI in music and art

    12:20 Possible developments

    17:13 Ethics in art

    22:21 Music's cultural decline

    27:06 The capitalist bogeyman

    29:35 Identity vs music

    43:21 Is all this just moaning?

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  28. #034 Twenty-Twenty-Five and all that

    45 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 34

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    Notas del episodio

    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!


    --

    Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    A review of some of the stuff that happened in the Year of Our Lord, 2025.


    Percy Digs instagram as mentioned: https://www.instagram.com/percydigs?igsh=MXM3OGJ0OW9rZDMzbA==


    All other links and more info on this episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/best-of-2025-147063099


    --

    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    02:50 Track of the year

    04:45 Conclusions of the year

    15:20 Album of the year

    18:46 Book (fiction)

    22:00 Book (nonfiction)

    25:14 Podcast episode

    26:47 Nightclub

    30:02 Forgotten Hard Rock album

    33:06 Best gig

    36:56 Streaming platform

    40:25 Worst album of the year

    41:23 Worst track of the year

    42:00 Coming up in 2026

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  29. #033 Kazim: artist manager on how to get ears on your music in the streaming era

    1 h 16 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 33

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    Notas del episodio

    PLEDGE DRIVE 2025 - all new subscribers to the Musicality tier on Patreon will get a Not A Diving Club t-shirt in your size of choice, delivered to your door completely free of charge!

    Full details.


    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!


    --

    Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    Kazim is an artist manager whose clients include Nightmares On Wax, and also the chief creative and brand officer at RA.


    We discuss the mechanics of creative campaigns for new and legacy artists, the challenge of breaking new music, and the different obstacles in the way of older acts. We also discuss the music media landscape and the role of media in today's industry.


    This is a rare chance to get the inside track on artist management and big music media platforms... get involved!


    Music discussed in the episode…

    https://jitwam.bandcamp.com

    https://anaiis.bandcamp.com

    https://saultglobal.bandcamp.com

    https://nightmaresonwax.bandcamp.com


    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    02:13 Episode start

    04:52 Artist management vs. media platforms

    07:55 Death of middle class in music

    11:35 Successful artists can't tour

    14:39 Everyone’s a DJ Now

    17:38 Can albums still take years to break through?

    21:08 Great music always shines through

    24:04 100,000 songs a day

    27:09 Going viral is the wrong goal

    30:46 Success without social media

    33:14 Word of mouth over algorithms

    35:30 It’s always been a slog

    39:00 Maintaining a legacy of an artist

    45:00 Power in the catalogue

    55:00 Working for Warp Records

    01:01:35 Fans vs. listeners

    01:03:20 Chasing the algorithm is not the way

    01:04:50 Working at RA

    01:12:08 The state of Berlin


    --

    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    02:13 Episode start

    04:52 Artist management vs. media platforms

    07:55 Death of middle class in music

    11:35 Successful artists can't tour

    14:39 Everyone’s a DJ Now

    17:38 Can albums still take years to break through?

    21:08 Great music always shines through

    24:04 100,000 songs a day

    27:09 Going viral is the wrong goal

    30:46 Success without social media

    33:14 Word of mouth over algorithms

    35:30 It’s always been a slog

    39:00 Maintaining a legacy of an artist

    45:00 Power in the catalogue

    55:00 Working for Warp Records

    01:01:35 Fans vs. listeners

    01:03:20 Chasing the algorithm is not the way

    01:04:50 Working at RA

    01:12:08 The state of Berlin


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  30. #032 Sam Binga: the art of A&R, UK bass culture, and the importance of community

    1 h 25 minTemporada 2 · Episodio 32

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    PLEDGE DRIVE 2025 - all new subscribers to the Musicality tier on Patreon will get a Not A Diving Club t-shirt in your size of choice, delivered to your door completely free of charge!

    Full details.


    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!


    --

    Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    Sam Binga is a DJ & Producer from Bristol, UK.


    Having first emerged in the breaks scene of the early 2000s, in the 2010s he placed himself firmly at the centre of UK bass, with releases on 50 Weapons, Exit and Critical. His sound spans the anthemic rowdiness of tracks like ‘AYO’ and ‘Lef Dem’, to the deeper explorations of his collaborations with Om Unit. He also runs Pineapple Records, a crucial label in the patchwork of soundsystem-adjacent UK electronic music. 


    We discuss the state of the current UK scene, his history through various areas of the UK bass scene, forthcoming music on Pineapple, and a lot more. 

    Get involved! 


    --

    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    02:10 Longtime listener first-time caller

    05:24 2025 recap

    06:30 Pros and cons of self-releasing

    11:00 Liking your own music

    13:30 The producer’s mind

    17:30 Intuition, magic, and fear of the future

    24:30 Breakstep

    30:00 Bao Binga, breaks, and nearly going Dubstep

    34:00 The death of the alias

    37:20 Early aspirations, career advice and mountain biking

    41:41 Early 2000s and lower barriers to entry

    43:44 Community before social media

    48:30 What Makes a scene?

    52:55 Sankeys, violence, police pressure

    55:00 Seeing Jeff Mills at Sankeys

    58:15 The 2010s House era

    59:14 The birth of Sam Binga & Exit Records

    01:08:10 UK Radio culture vs. US

    01:17:20 Label philosophy: skate-team energy & A&R instinct

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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