Another Way, by Lawrence Lessig
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Through interviews with politicians, journalists, activists, and the latest and greatest names in the fight to restore our democracy, the Another Way podcast explores the plans and policies for returning power to the people.
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Special Episode: The Viral Movement Holding Politicians Accountable
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📌 TOPICS COVERED
🔹 The Integrity Index: Letter grades (A-F) for legislators and candidates, based on fundraising, stock holdings, and corporate and trade PAC money
🔹 The Political Integrity Pledge: A four-part commitment to reject corporate PAC money, support a congressional stock trading ban, close the lobbying revolving door, and overturn Citizens United. 264 candidates have signed so far.
🔹 The Trump Tracker: A dashboard of the trades and holdings of top Trump administration officials, built from public financial disclosures.
🔹 Why anger isn't enough: How they channel online frustration toward real accountability.
🔹 DTA v. Schneider: The lawsuit that could get rid of super PACs without overturning Citizens United
🔹 Lawrence Lessig’s 20-year effort to end the corruption of our representative government.
🔹 The unknown 2010 court case that created super PACs: SpeechNow v. FEC.
🎙️ ABOUT ANOTHER WAY
Another Way is the podcast of Lawrence Lessig, founder of Equal Citizens, featuring conversations with people working to fix American democracy. New episodes on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Patreon.
CREDITSMusic: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions; Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions; Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions
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S8E7: Ron Fein
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For more information about the case, Dinner Table Action v. Schneider, visit: https://equalcitizens.us/against_superpacs/
Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens
Music: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions; Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions; Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions
Post-production: Josh Elstro of Elstro Production
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S8E6: Oral Arguments
For more information about the case, Dinner Table Action v. Schneider, visit: https://equalcitizens.us/against_superpacs/ Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens Music: Roundpine by …
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For more information about the case, Dinner Table Action v. Schneider, visit: https://equalcitizens.us/against_superpacs/
Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens
Music: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions; Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions; Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions
Post-production: Josh Elstro of Elstro Production
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S8E5: Christopher Robertson
To read Robertson's research, visit: https://equalcitizens.us/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/2025_02_26__53_3__Exhibit_4___Christopher_Robertson_Declaration-1.pdf For more information about the case, Dinner Table …
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To read Robertson's research, visit: https://equalcitizens.us/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/2025_02_26__53_3__Exhibit_4___Christopher_Robertson_Declaration-1.pdf
For more information about the case, Dinner Table Action v. Schneider, visit: https://equalcitizens.us/against_superpacs/
Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens
Music: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions; Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions; Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions
Post-production: Josh Elstro of Elstro Production
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S8E4: Jonathan Gienapp
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For more information about the case, Dinner Table Action v. Schneider, visit: https://equalcitizens.us/against_superpacs/
Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens
Music: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions; Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions; Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions
Post-production: Josh Elstro of Elstro Production
Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
S8E3: Courtney Hostetler
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More information about the case, Dinner Table Action v. Schneider: https://equalcitizens.us/against_superpacs/
Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens
Music: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions; Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions; Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions
Post-production: Josh Elstro of Elstro Production
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S8E2: Rick Bennett
More information about the case, Dinner Table Action v. Schneider: https://equalcitizens.us/against_superpacs/ Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens Music: Roundpine by Blue Dot …
Notes de l’épisode
More information about the case, Dinner Table Action v. Schneider: https://equalcitizens.us/against_superpacs/
Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens
Music: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions; Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions; Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions
Post-production: Josh Elstro of Elstro Production
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S8E1: Introduction
More information about the case, Dinner Table Action v. Schneider: https://equalcitizens.us/against_superpacs/ Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens Music: Roundpine by Blue Dot …
Notes de l’épisode
More information about the case, Dinner Table Action v. Schneider: https://equalcitizens.us/against_superpacs/
Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens
Music: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions; Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions; Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions
Post-production: Josh Elstro of Elstro Production
Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
S7E9: Conclusion
Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizensMusic: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions; Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions; Vengeful by Blue Dot SessionsPost-production: Josh Elstro of Elstro …
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Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens
Music: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions; Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions; Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions
Post-production: Josh Elstro of Elstro Production
Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
S7E8: One Year In - Is There More Common Ground
In this episode, Lessig and Hepburn continue the conversation, discussing the hot-button issues shaping the start of 2026. Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens Music: Roundpine by …
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In this episode, Lessig and Hepburn continue the conversation, discussing the hot-button issues shaping the start of 2026.
Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens
Music: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions; Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions; Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions
Post-production: Josh Elstro of Elstro Production
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S7E7: Continuing The Conversation
The latest (and penultimate) episode of Season 7, continuing the conversation with Ben Hepburn.Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizensMusic: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions; Noe Noe by …
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The latest (and penultimate) episode of Season 7, continuing the conversation with Ben Hepburn.
Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens
Music: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions; Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions; Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions
Post-production: Josh Elstro of Elstro Production
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S7E6: Pulling It All Together
Pulling it all together, Lessig asks his high school friend Ben Hepburn: How can you defend this? Listen to the conversation, and the common ground that gets built. Become a Patreon subscriber …
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Pulling it all together, Lessig asks his high school friend Ben Hepburn: How can you defend this? Listen to the conversation, and the common ground that gets built.
Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens
Music:
Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions
Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions
Vengeful by Blue Dot SessionsPost-production:
Josh Elstro of Elstro ProductionHosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
S7E5: Strategy of Extortion
In this episode, Lessig and Hepburn discuss what Lessig has elsewhere described as Trumps strategy of extortion — illegal threats to force compliance by every institution that might resist him. (Plus a quick …
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In this episode, Lessig and Hepburn discuss what Lessig has elsewhere described as Trumps strategy of extortion — illegal threats to force compliance by every institution that might resist him. (Plus a quick trip to Vietnam, and the promise of a brand new Trump resort!)
Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens
Music:
Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions
Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions
Vengeful by Blue Dot SessionsPost-production:
Josh Elstro of Elstro ProductionHosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
S7E4: Tariffs
In this episode, Lessig and Hepburn discuss the tariffs. Is there some point at which MAGA supporters call uncle?Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizensMusic: Roundpine by Blue Dot …
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In this episode, Lessig and Hepburn discuss the tariffs. Is there some point at which MAGA supporters call uncle?
Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens
Music: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions; Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions; Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions
Post-production: Josh Elstro of Elstro Production
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S7E3: Ukraine, DOGE and RFK Jr.
Lessig's conversation with Ben Hepburn continues, this time about Ukraine, DOGE and RFKJr Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of …
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Lessig's conversation with Ben Hepburn continues, this time about Ukraine, DOGE and RFKJr Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.S7E2: Continuing a Conversation with Ben Hepburn
In this second episode, Ben Hepburn and Lessig continue to see where we can find common ground in our understanding of the current administration. Are we on the left too pessimistic? Is the other side too …
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In this second episode, Ben Hepburn and Lessig continue to see where we can find common ground in our understanding of the current administration. Are we on the left too pessimistic? Is the other side too optimistic?
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S7E1: Common Ground?
In this season, Lessig will have a conversation with Ben Hepburn, a friend from high school, whose politics is not Lessig's. The plan for the season is to check in regularly about the latest questions raised by …
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In this season, Lessig will have a conversation with Ben Hepburn, a friend from high school, whose politics is not Lessig's. The plan for the season is to check in regularly about the latest questions raised by the new Trump administration, and see whether a conservative and a liberal can find common ground, or even just understanding. This first episode was recorded just before in Inauguration.
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Music:
Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions
Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions
Vengeful by Blue Dot SessionsPost-production:
Josh Elstro of Elstro ProductionHosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
S6: Special Election Episode
On this episode (recorded before Tuesday's election), Lessig is joined by his colleagues Matthew A. Seligman (Stris & Maher), Ned Foley (Moritz College of Law, The Ohio State), and Derek Muller (Notre Dame Law …
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On this episode (recorded before Tuesday's election), Lessig is joined by his colleagues Matthew A. Seligman (Stris & Maher), Ned Foley (Moritz College of Law, The Ohio State), and Derek Muller (Notre Dame Law School) to discuss what could (have) happen(ed) in the period after Election Day and before the counting of electoral votes. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.S6E9: What Then?
In this episode, Lessig outlines what happens if Maine passes Question 1. What are the next steps, and the arguments that will get us to the Supreme Court — and to victory! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz …
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In this episode, Lessig outlines what happens if Maine passes Question 1. What are the next steps, and the arguments that will get us to the Supreme Court — and to victory! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.S6E8: The Campaign in Maine
On this episode, Lessig describes the campaign in Maine. The legislature chose to let the people decide whether to vote against SuperPACs in Maine — and if upheld, the nation. This episode discusses that …
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On this episode, Lessig describes the campaign in Maine. The legislature chose to let the people decide whether to vote against SuperPACs in Maine — and if upheld, the nation. This episode discusses that campaign, and the risks it faces. Check out the website of the campaign at CitizensToEndSuperPACS.org. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.S6E7: The Legislature Decides
On this episode, Lessig keeps the story going. We got the signatures. The next step was that the Maine legislature needed to decide whether it would pass the initiative into law itself, or let it go to the …
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On this episode, Lessig keeps the story going. We got the signatures. The next step was that the Maine legislature needed to decide whether it would pass the initiative into law itself, or let it go to the ballot. This episode is the story of the legislative hearing, and its decision on how to handle the initiative. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.S6E6: The Race to Gather Signatures
On this episode, Lessig chronicles the next chapter in the story of the Maine initiative. We had an idea — based on FreeSpeechForPeople’s brilliant argument — for an initiative. And Mainers were excited about …
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On this episode, Lessig chronicles the next chapter in the story of the Maine initiative. We had an idea — based on FreeSpeechForPeople’s brilliant argument — for an initiative. And Mainers were excited about the idea. A poll showed overwhelming support for the initiative. We just needed to raise the funds to get the signatures gathered. That proved to be an enormous challenge — unsurprisingly, as our theory of victory included convincing the Supreme Court we were right. This episode tells the story of how we got the signatures gathered. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.S6E5: The Origins of the Initiative
On this episode, Lessig details how we got to this initiative that could end Super PACs: FreeSpeechForPeople.org’s brilliant argument, and the decision to take that argument into the field and win! Hosted by …
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On this episode, Lessig details how we got to this initiative that could end Super PACs: FreeSpeechForPeople.org’s brilliant argument, and the decision to take that argument into the field and win! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.S6S4: The Fight to End SuperPACs and Originalism
On this episode, Lessig provides a brief history of the fight to end SuperPACs. Then, critically, he examines how the theory of the conservatives — originalism — supports our argument against SuperPACs. Hosted …
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On this episode, Lessig provides a brief history of the fight to end SuperPACs. Then, critically, he examines how the theory of the conservatives — originalism — supports our argument against SuperPACs. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.S6E3: The Money Problem
On this episode, Lessig asks: How is money a problem in a democracy, and how is it like the other problems we’re facing in our democracy? Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com …
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On this episode, Lessig asks: How is money a problem in a democracy, and how is it like the other problems we’re facing in our democracy? Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.S6E2: The Legal Background
On this episode, Lessig explains the legal background to the Maine initiative, from Citizens United to the case that gave us SuperPACs: SpeechNow v. FEC (2010). Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See …
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On this episode, Lessig explains the legal background to the Maine initiative, from Citizens United to the case that gave us SuperPACs: SpeechNow v. FEC (2010). Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.S6E1: The Maine Initiative That Could End SuperPACs
On this episode, Lessig introduces the upcoming Maine initiative that could end SuperPACs and lays out the plan for Season 6 of Another Way. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com …
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On this episode, Lessig introduces the upcoming Maine initiative that could end SuperPACs and lays out the plan for Season 6 of Another Way. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.S5E27 - Conclusion: How AI Could Threaten Democracy (TedX)
For this final episode of Season 5, Lessig speaks to TedX Berlin about AI, democracy, and the future. You can watch a video recording of this TedX talk here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zYHqg1PwoQ Hosted …
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For this final episode of Season 5, Lessig speaks to TedX Berlin about AI, democracy, and the future. You can watch a video recording of this TedX talk here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zYHqg1PwoQ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.S5E26: Lifeboats: Jon Stever
In 2020, in the middle of a pandemic, Jon Stever launched an extraordinary experiment to draw together a representative sample of the world to discuss the climate and ecological crisis the world is facing. In …
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In 2020, in the middle of a pandemic, Jon Stever launched an extraordinary experiment to draw together a representative sample of the world to discuss the climate and ecological crisis the world is facing. In this conversation, I talk to him about how he and his team did that, and what it teaches us about the potential for citizen assemblies generally.
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S5E25: Lifeboats: David Farrell
Ireland has been perhaps the most impressive example of citizen assemblies addressing national issues in a new and edifying way. David Farrell is an academic who has studied the Irish example. I talk with him …
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Ireland has been perhaps the most impressive example of citizen assemblies addressing national issues in a new and edifying way. David Farrell is an academic who has studied the Irish example. I talk with him about what Ireland can teach the rest of the world.
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