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Drones and robotics are moving from niche capability to mainstream security tools—and at the same time, they’re creating entirely new attack paths for adversaries. In this episode of the ASIAL Security Insider Podcast, we speak with Deborah Evans (Edith Cowan University) about where unmanned systems and robotics are heading, what’s already in use across security and law enforcement, and what the industry must do to prepare. We discuss current developments in UAVs and other Unmanned Systems (UxS) and robotics, the pace-setting influence of China and the United States, and how modern conflict—especially Ukraine/Russia—is driving rapid innovation, adaptability, and proliferation. From a practical security operations lens, we explore what’s likely to be adopted next: more persistent surveillance and patrol, disaster response, and environmental monitoring, enabled by higher-level data analytics and increasingly autonomous systems. We also look further ahead at emerging capabilities such as micro and nano systems, swarming, and the evolution of Counter-UAS (C-UAS)—including detection methods and the trade-offs between kinetic, non-kinetic, and hybrid defeat approaches. Finally, we address the issues that will shape real-world adoption: preparedness, regulation, social and national security concerns, and why the security industry must lead proactively, accept measured crossover from military development, and invest intelligently in C-UAS readiness.
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Épisodes 166
It’s Not Love: Molly’s Story of Coercive Control, Strangulation and Survival
What begins as love, attention, and commitment can gradually become something very different.In this, the first powerful episode of series 6 of Conversations About Family Violence: You Do Not Have to Put Up …
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What begins as love, attention, and commitment can gradually become something very different.
In this, the first powerful episode of series 6 of Conversations About Family Violence: You Do Not Have to Put Up With It, Miss Carmella speaks with Molly, a victim-survivor who shares her deeply personal experience of coercive control, escalating physical violence and repeated incidents of non-fatal strangulation.
Molly describes the early warning signs she now recognises—possessiveness, jealousy and controlling behaviour—and how the relationship progressively changed into a life of fear, intimidation and constantly “walking on eggshells.” She speaks candidly about the physical and psychological impact of the abuse, the effect it had on her children, and the barriers that prevented her from seeking help sooner.
The conversation also examines the serious dangers associated with non-fatal strangulation, the importance of trauma-informed responses, Molly’s experience reporting the violence to Victoria Police and navigating the legal system, and the role that professional, family and community support played in helping her move forward.
Most importantly, Molly shares what she has learned through survival and recovery—and the message she wants others experiencing abuse to hear: what may look like love or concern can sometimes be coercive control, and violence should never be mistaken for love.
Her message is simple but powerful: “It’s tougher to stay.”
Content warning: This episode contains discussion of domestic and family violence, physical assault, coercive control and non-fatal strangulation.
If you require assistance with issues around domestic and family violence, visit https://domesticfamilyviolencelawyers.au
EP 166 - Are We Buying Security or Just the Cheapest Guards?
Avec Dr John Coyne
Is Australia's obsession with low-cost security contracts putting people, critical infrastructure and national security at risk?A major new report from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) raises …
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Is Australia's obsession with low-cost security contracts putting people, critical infrastructure and national security at risk?
A major new report from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) raises serious questions about how Australia purchases, regulates, and delivers protective security services.
The report, Australian Protective Security Procurement Practices, suggests that an excessive focus on price, inconsistent licensing requirements, inadequate contract oversight and workforce pressures may be undermining the very protection these services are supposed to provide.
In this episode of Security Insider, we speak with one of the authors of the report, Dr John Coyne — Director, ASPI National Security Program
Together, we explore some of the most pressing challenges facing Australia's security industry, including:
- Why the cheapest security contract isn't necessarily the best value.
- Whether government procurement practices are encouraging a race to the bottom.
- The growing gap between licensed security personnel and genuinely deployable security capability.
- The implications of security workforce shortages for AUKUS, Defence facilities and critical infrastructure.
- Whether Australia will have the security workforce needed for the Brisbane 2032 Olympics.
- Why longstanding problems with licensing, training and industry regulation remain unresolved.
- What governments, procurement managers and security providers can do to deliver better security outcomes.
With private security officers increasingly operating on the frontline of Australia's protective security arrangements, the stakes extend well beyond commercial contracts.
Are we investing in genuine protection, or simply paying for a security presence?
And will Australia address these problems before a major security incident forces change?
Join us for an important discussion about the future of Australia's protective security industry and what it will take to build a more capable, accountable and resilient security workforce.
Report: Australian Protective Security Procurement Practices, Australian Strategic Policy Institute, is available for download at either www.aspi.org.au or www.asial.com.au
Ep 165 - Digital Malevolence: The Dark Psychology Driving Online Extremism
Avec Dr Anne Speckhard
A new and disturbing form of violent extremism is spreading across online communities, and unlike traditional extremist movements, it isn't necessarily driven by politics, religion or ideology. Instead, it's …
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A new and disturbing form of violent extremism is spreading across online communities, and unlike traditional extremist movements, it isn't necessarily driven by politics, religion or ideology. Instead, it's fuelled by manipulation, psychological exploitation, cruelty and the pursuit of notoriety.
In this episode of Security Insider, we speak with Dr Anne Speckhard, Director of the International Centre for the Study of Violent Extremism (ICSVE), about her latest research with Caroline Ewing into Digital Malevolence and the rise of Nihilistic Violent Extremism (NVE).
We examine how online networks exploit vulnerable young people through grooming, sextortion and coercive control, and how psychological traits associated with narcissism, psychopathy, Machiavellianism and sadism can help explain these behaviours.
Most importantly, we explore what this emerging threat means for law enforcement, cybersecurity professionals, technology platforms, educators and parents — and how recognising dangerous behavioural patterns could help prevent online exploitation from escalating into real-world violence.
For more podcasts like this, visit www.asial.com.au
Ep 164 - Are You Too Smart to Be Fooled? Social Engineering, Mentalism and the Age of AI
Avec Andy Nunn
Cybersecurity professionals spend enormous amounts of time and money building sophisticated systems designed to keep attackers out. But attackers do not always need to defeat the technology. Sometimes, they …
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Cybersecurity professionals spend enormous amounts of time and money building sophisticated systems designed to keep attackers out. But attackers do not always need to defeat the technology. Sometimes, they simply need to convince a person to open the door.
In this episode of the Security Insider Podcast, we speak with professional mentalist and illusionist Andy Nunn about what decades of deliberately deceiving intelligent, attentive audiences can teach us about social engineering, cognitive bias and human vulnerability.
Andy is not a psychologist or a self-proclaimed psychic. His perspective comes from the practical mechanics of illusion: directing attention, exploiting assumptions, creating convincing narratives and watching how quickly people can become certain that their interpretation of events must be correct.
We explore why high intelligence does not necessarily lead to good judgement, why expertise can sometimes create dangerous overconfidence, and how our tendency to look for evidence that confirms what we already believe can make even experienced security professionals vulnerable to manipulation. The conversation also examines the rapidly changing threat landscape created by artificial intelligence.
When attackers can clone voices, generate convincing video, imitate writing styles and manufacture highly credible identities, traditional trust signals such as “I recognised the voice” or “I saw them on video” may no longer be sufficient.
So how do we protect ourselves when seeing is no longer believing?
Andy introduces a simple but powerful question:
“What evidence could prove me wrong?”
It is a question designed to challenge certainty, expose flawed assumptions and force us to distinguish between genuine verification and simply finding evidence that supports what we already want to believe.
We discuss:
- Why intelligence and expertise do not make us immune to deception
- How confidence can become a security vulnerability
- The similarities between stage misdirection and social engineering
- How attackers exploit authority, urgency, familiarity and expectation
- Why confirmation bias can prevent us from recognising warning signs
- How AI-generated voices, video and identities are changing the nature of trust
- Why independent verification is becoming increasingly important
- How asking “What evidence could prove me wrong?” can interrupt manipulation
- Why humility may become a competitive advantage in cybersecurity
The central question of the episode is simple:
What if the greatest vulnerability in social engineering isn’t ignorance — but certainty?
Ep 163 - Security 2030- What’s Next for Australia’s Security Industry? Part 2
Avec Warren Doudle et Nicola Lockhart
In Part One, we explored the key findings from ASIAL’s landmark Security 2030 report, discussing regulatory reform, procurement challenges, industry visibility and the structural issues that must be addressed …
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In Part One, we explored the key findings from ASIAL’s landmark Security 2030 report, discussing regulatory reform, procurement challenges, industry visibility and the structural issues that must be addressed if the sector is to meet the demands of the future.
Today, we shift our focus from the challenges to the solutions. Joining me once again are Dr Nicola Lockhart, Deputy Lead of Edith Cowan University’s Security & Intelligence Research Group, and Dr Warren Doudle, Lead of the Research Group and Senior Lecturer in Security Science. Together, they led the research behind the ASIAL-commissioned Security 2030: A Five-Year Future Report on the Australian Private Security Industry—a study examining the trends, risks and opportunities that will shape the industry over the remainder of the decade.
In this episode, we examine what it will take to professionalise the industry, improve public confidence, build the workforce needed for tomorrow’s challenges, assess the industry’s current level of maturity, and discuss why the next five years could be the most important in the sector’s history.
If you work in security—or rely on security to protect your people, assets or operations—this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.
For more information, visit www.asial.com.au
Ep 162 - Security 2030- What’s Next for Australia’s Security Industry? Part 1
Avec Warren Doudle et Nicola Lockhart
Australia’s private security industry is entering a period of significant change. New technologies, evolving threats, workforce challenges, regulatory reform and increasing expectations around …
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Australia’s private security industry is entering a period of significant change. New technologies, evolving threats, workforce challenges, regulatory reform and increasing expectations around professionalisation are reshaping what security will look like over the next five years.
In this episode of the Security Insider podcast, we speak with Dr Nicola Lockhart and Dr Warren Doudle from Edith Cowan University’s Security & Intelligence Research Group about the forthcoming Security 2030 report commissioned by ASIAL.
Dr Nicola Lockhart is a Lecturer in Security Science at Edith Cowan University and Deputy Lead of ECU’s Security & Intelligence Research Group. She completed her PhD in Security Risk in 2025, examining how corporate security functions influence organisational decision-making, priorities and outcomes. Her teaching and research span areas including security risk, counterterrorism, surveillance and threat detection. ECU
Dr Warren Doudle is a Senior Lecturer in Security Science at Edith Cowan University and leads ECU’s Security & Intelligence Research Group. He brings extensive experience across defence, government, critical infrastructure, resources and corporate security, with a background encompassing security, investigations, business continuity, information security, governance and risk management. ECU
Together, Nicola and Warren are leading the research behind ASIAL’s Security 2030 project, which is intended to provide practical insights and recommendations capable of informing future policy, standards and industry investment.
We explore the major forces likely to shape the industry through to 2030, what the research is telling us about the challenges and opportunities ahead, and what security professionals, organisations and policymakers should be thinking about today.
The Security 2030 study is designed to establish an evidence base for the future direction of Australia’s private security sector and provide recommendations to help create a more resilient, professional and future-ready industry.
For more information, visit www.asial.com.au
Ep 161 - From Compliance to Resilience: SOCI Reforms in an AI-Driven Threat Landscape
Avec Maher Magrabi
Australia’s critical infrastructure operators are entering a new phase of security and risk management. With enhanced obligations under the Security of Critical Infrastructure (SOCI) Act, rapidly advancing …
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Australia’s critical infrastructure operators are entering a new phase of security and risk management. With enhanced obligations under the Security of Critical Infrastructure (SOCI) Act, rapidly advancing artificial intelligence, and growing supply chain vulnerabilities, organisations must rethink how they identify, manage, and respond to emerging threats.
In this episode of the Security Insider podcast, Dr Maher Magrabi, Director of Security, Cybersecurity & Risk at Lote Consulting Pty Ltd, discusses the changing landscape in “From Compliance to Resilience: SOCI Reforms in an AI-Driven Threat Landscape.”
The conversation explores the purpose of the SOCI Act, what the 2026 Critical Infrastructure Risk Management Program (CIRMP) reforms mean for regulated entities, how AI is transforming both cyber threats and defensive capabilities, and why supply chain resilience has become a critical priority for security leaders.
Whether you’re responsible for security, cybersecurity, risk, governance, compliance, or executive leadership, this episode provides valuable context for understanding Australia’s evolving critical infrastructure obligations and the practical steps organisations should be taking today.
In this episode:
- The original purpose of the SOCI Act
- What changed under the 2026 CIRMP reforms
- How AI is reshaping the threat landscape
- Why supply chain risk is becoming a major security challenge
- Practical advice for security and risk leaders
- A preview of Dr Magrabi’s presentation at the Security Expo and Conference
Listen now for an insightful discussion on moving beyond compliance and building genuine resilience in an increasingly complex threat environment.
To hear Dr Magrabi present live, book tickets for the Security Conference running from September 2-3 at the ICC in Sydney at securityexpo.com.au
Ep 160 - Changing the Guard: The Future of Security in Crowded Places
Avec Lauren Campbell
Crowded public spaces present a unique security challenge. They must remain safe and resilient while also feeling open, welcoming and accessible.In this episode, we speak with Lauren Campbell, Security Manager …
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Crowded public spaces present a unique security challenge. They must remain safe and resilient while also feeling open, welcoming and accessible.
In this episode, we speak with Lauren Campbell, Security Manager at South Bank Corporation, ahead of her presentation at the Security Expo conference this September.
Lauren discusses the changing role of security in major public precincts, the limitations of traditional guarding models, and the need for a more visible, proactive and coordinated approach. We also explore how security teams can balance public safety with customer experience, strengthen collaboration between agencies and stakeholders, and prepare for the evolving risks facing crowded places.
The conversation offers a preview of Lauren’s upcoming session, Changing of the Guard: Redefining Security in Crowded Places, without revealing the key operational insights and strategies that will be presented at the conference.
To book your place at this year's Security Conference, visit: https://securityexpo.com.au/whats-on/conference/
Ep 159 - Bunnings, Facial Recognition and the Privacy Line- Has the Tribunal Opened the Door?
Avec Alex MacDonald
Facial recognition remains one of the most controversial technologies in Australian security, sitting at the intersection of public safety, privacy, surveillance and corporate responsibility.In this episode, we …
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Facial recognition remains one of the most controversial technologies in Australian security, sitting at the intersection of public safety, privacy, surveillance and corporate responsibility.
In this episode, we speak with Alex MacDonald, Director at Vixels and former National Investigations and Security Manager at Bunnings, about the retailer’s use of facial recognition technology and how the issue has evolved since the Office of the Australian Information Commissioner’s ruling.
We examine why Bunnings adopted the technology, what it was designed to achieve, where the rollout fell short, and what the subsequent legal and regulatory developments mean for retailers, security professionals and technology providers.
The discussion also addresses the key operational questions surrounding facial recognition: when its use may be justified, how consent and notification should be handled, what safeguards are required to reduce false matches and misuse, and whether organisations can balance security outcomes with individual privacy rights.
For anyone involved in retail security, loss prevention, surveillance, privacy, compliance or risk management, this episode provides a practical examination of what the Bunnings case means for the future of facial recognition in Australia.
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Ep 158 - When Cyber Risk Becomes Physical
Avec Alastair MacGibbon
In this episode of the Security Insider Podcast, we speak with Alastair MacGibbon, one of Australia’s most experienced cyber security and technology resilience leaders.Alastair has shaped Australian cyber …
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In this episode of the Security Insider Podcast, we speak with Alastair MacGibbon, one of Australia’s most experienced cyber security and technology resilience leaders.
Alastair has shaped Australian cyber security from almost every angle: as a Federal Agent with the Australian Federal Police, founder of the Australian High Tech Crime Centre, Australia’s inaugural eSafety Commissioner, Special Adviser to the Prime Minister on Cyber Security, National Cyber Security Adviser, and founding executive at CyberCX.
Ahead of his September conference presentation, Alastair joins us to discuss how AI is changing the threat environment, why the traditional separation between cyber, physical and insider risk is breaking down, and what physical security managers need to understand now to protect their people, facilities, information and operations.
This conversation is designed to give security leaders practical ways to think about converged risk, without pre-empting the full detail of Alastair’s upcoming presentation.
Ep 157 - Supply Chain Under Siege: What Australian Security Leaders Must Do Now
Avec Andrew Harris et Bilal Ali Khan
The US–Iran conflict is a sharp reminder that supply-chain security is no longer just a logistics or procurement issue. For Australian organisations, geopolitical instability can quickly become a business …
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The US–Iran conflict is a sharp reminder that supply-chain security is no longer just a logistics or procurement issue. For Australian organisations, geopolitical instability can quickly become a business continuity, security, insurance, transport and critical infrastructure problem.
In this episode of Security Insider, we speak with Andrew Harris from Ironbark Strategic and Bilal Ali Khan from Spinnaker Infrastructure about what senior security managers in Australia should be doing now to understand and reduce their exposure to supply-chain disruption.
The discussion explores the impact of conflict on maritime routes, energy costs, freight movement, insurance, critical suppliers, ports, warehousing, contractor risk and organisational resilience. We also examine the secondary risks that often emerge during disruption, including cargo theft, fraud, counterfeit goods, grey-market sourcing, insider threat and organised-crime activity.
Most importantly, this episode focuses on practical action: how security leaders can map supply-chain dependencies, identify single points of failure, monitor escalation indicators, brief executives, strengthen crisis plans and build a more resilient supply-chain security capability for future geopolitical shocks.
For senior security, risk, resilience, procurement and infrastructure leaders, this is a timely conversation about how to move from reactive crisis management to deliberate supply-chain preparedness.
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Ep 156 - Crisis Communications for Security Leaders: What to Say When the Pressure Is On.
Avec Dr Tony Jaques
In this episode of Security Insider, host John Bigelow speaks with Tony Jaques, Director of Issue Outcomes, about crisis communications for security leaders. With cyber incidents, misinformation, deepfakes …
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In this episode of Security Insider, host John Bigelow speaks with Tony Jaques, Director of Issue Outcomes, about crisis communications for security leaders. With cyber incidents, misinformation, deepfakes, regulatory pressure, and geopolitical instability all reshaping the risk landscape, this conversation explores how leaders should communicate during high-pressure events, what mistakes to avoid, and how to build trust when facts are still emerging. A practical episode for CISOs, CSOs, resilience leaders, and executives responsible for security and reputation.
For more information, visit www.asial.com.au
Ep 155 - US-Iran Escalation: What Australian Security Leaders Need to Know
Avec Mick Ryan
What does the conflict between the US and Iran mean for Australia’s security environment, and what should Australian organisations be doing now to prepare?In this episode of the Security Insider podcast, we …
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What does the conflict between the US and Iran mean for Australia’s security environment, and what should Australian organisations be doing now to prepare?
In this episode of the Security Insider podcast, we discuss the real-world implications of escalating conflict in the Middle East for Australian businesses, critical infrastructure, and security leaders. We examine how this crisis could affect fuel and freight, cyber risk, supply chains, domestic threat conditions, and the broader security posture of Australian organisations.
This conversation is especially relevant for security managers in large organisations, security company owners, and systems integrators who need to understand not just the geopolitics, but the practical consequences for people, assets, continuity, and risk planning.
Our guest for this episode is is Major General Mick Ryan AM, one of Australia’s most respected military thinkers and commentators on strategy, war, and national security. Mick served for 35 years in the Australian Army and is now a Senior Fellow for Military Studies in the Lowy Institute’s International Security Program. He is widely known for his analysis of modern warfare, military adaptation, and the strategic implications of global conflict for Australia and its allies.
For more episodes, visit www.asial.com.au
Ep 154 - Managing Insider Threats
Avec John Bigelow, Lou Bladel, Julian Claxton, et Brenton Stenkamp
In this episode of Security Insider, we examine the growing threat of insider risk and the rising importance of counterespionage in the corporate environment.Our guests for this episode are Lou Bladel, Uber’s …
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In this episode of Security Insider, we examine the growing threat of insider risk and the rising importance of counterespionage in the corporate environment.
Our guests for this episode are Lou Bladel, Uber’s Director of Insider Threat and former FBI Special Agent in Charge of Counterintelligence in New York, alongside Julian Claxton of Jayde Consulting and Brenton Steenkamp, Partner at Clayton Utz. Together, we discuss how trusted insiders become high-impact risks, why behaviour matters as much as technology, and what organisations must do to better protect people, data, and critical assets.
Ep 153 - Why Most Training Fails Under Extreme Pressure
Avec Tony Blauer
Incidents like the Bondi and Westfield attacks demonstrate that extreme violence can happen anytime, anywhere, without warning. And in most cases, security personnel will be the first to respond.In this episode …
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Incidents like the Bondi and Westfield attacks demonstrate that extreme violence can happen anytime, anywhere, without warning. And in most cases, security personnel will be the first to respond.
In this episode of the Security Insider podcast, we speak with Tony Blauer—CEO of Blauer Tactical Systems and founder of the SPEAR System—about “amygdala hijack”: the survival-driven takeover that can bypass cognition and degrade complex performance in fractions of a second. We unpack the startle–flinch response, why “technical” training often doesn’t transfer to real incidents, and how scenario-based training can be engineered to shorten reaction time and improve decision-making under extreme stress.
If you run a security business and want training that holds up when it matters—this is the blueprint.
For more podcasts like this one visit www.asial.com.au
Ep 152 - Mental Health In Security Part 2
Avec Simon Brown-Grieves
In a world where the threat environment is volatile, and tensions are high, security teams are under more pressure than ever—facing verbal aggression, physical incidents, and the constant need to stay vigilant …
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In a world where the threat environment is volatile, and tensions are high, security teams are under more pressure than ever—facing verbal aggression, physical incidents, and the constant need to stay vigilant. But mental strain doesn’t always announce itself until performance drops, conflict escalates, or someone quietly burns out.
In this, the second part of our exploration of mental health in security, we continue our discussion with Simon Brown-Greaves about how security companies can protect the mental health of their staff without sacrificing operational capability. In the last episode, we covered the biggest mental-health stressors impacting security professionals right now, as well as early indicators of burnout, cumulative stress injury, and trauma exposure.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
- A practical post-incident support approach (what to do—and what to avoid)
- Training priorities for guards, supervisors, and leadership
- How to build a culture where support is used early, not after crisis
If you lead security teams—or you work the front line—this conversation will give you practical steps you can apply immediately.
Subscribe for more conversations on security leadership, operational capability, and resilience in high-risk environments.
Ep 151 - Mental Health In Security Part1
Avec Simon Brown-Greaves
In a world where the threat environment is volatile and tensions are high, security teams are absorbing more pressure than ever—verbal aggression, physical incidents, and the constant need to stay vigilant. But …
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In a world where the threat environment is volatile and tensions are high, security teams are absorbing more pressure than ever—verbal aggression, physical incidents, and the constant need to stay vigilant. But mental strain doesn’t always announce itself until performance drops, conflict escalates, or someone quietly burns out.
In this episode, we speak with Simon Brown-Greaves about how security companies can protect the mental health of their staff without sacrificing operational capability. We cover the warning signs leaders often miss, what to do after critical incidents, how rosters and fatigue drive psychological risk, and what a real mental-health framework looks like on the ground—not just in policy documents.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
- The biggest mental-health stressors impacting security professionals right now
- Early indicators of burnout, cumulative stress injury, and trauma exposure
- A practical post-incident support approach (what to do—and what to avoid)
If you lead security teams—or you work the front line—this conversation will give you practical steps you can apply immediately.
Subscribe for more conversations on security leadership, operational capability, and resilience in high-risk environments. visit www.asial.com.au
Ep150 - Drones, Robotics & Counter-UAS- What Security Needs to Prepare For
Avec Debbie Evans
Drones and robotics are moving from niche capability to mainstream security tools—and at the same time, they’re creating entirely new attack paths for adversaries. In this episode of the ASIAL Security Insider …
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Drones and robotics are moving from niche capability to mainstream security tools—and at the same time, they’re creating entirely new attack paths for adversaries. In this episode of the ASIAL Security Insider Podcast, we speak with Deborah Evans (Edith Cowan University) about where unmanned systems and robotics are heading, what’s already in use across security and law enforcement, and what the industry must do to prepare.
We discuss current developments in UAVs and other Unmanned Systems (UxS) and robotics, the pace-setting influence of China and the United States, and how modern conflict—especially Ukraine/Russia—is driving rapid innovation, adaptability, and proliferation.
From a practical security operations lens, we explore what’s likely to be adopted next: more persistent surveillance and patrol, disaster response, and environmental monitoring, enabled by higher-level data analytics and increasingly autonomous systems. We also look further ahead at emerging capabilities such as micro and nano systems, swarming, and the evolution of Counter-UAS (C-UAS)—including detection methods and the trade-offs between kinetic, non-kinetic, and hybrid defeat approaches.
Finally, we address the issues that will shape real-world adoption: preparedness, regulation, social and national security concerns, and why the security industry must lead proactively, accept measured crossover from military development, and invest intelligently in C-UAS readiness.
Key topics covered
- UAV/UxS and robotics: what’s real right now
- Security use cases: surveillance, patrol, SAR, law enforcement support
- How drones are being used to defeat security and policing
- What’s next: autonomy + analytics + scale
- Swarms, micro/nano systems, and autonomous weapons implications
- C-UAS: detection, kinetic vs non-kinetic vs combined approaches
- Regulation, adoption barriers, and what security should do now
Ep 149 - The Future of AI In Video Surveillance
Avec Dimitrie Sandu
92% of security leaders agree: the future of physical security is in the cloud. With this inevitable shift from on-premise setups to feature-rich cloud systems, join us as we explore the past, present and …
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92% of security leaders agree: the future of physical security is in the cloud. With this inevitable shift from on-premise setups to feature-rich cloud systems, join us as we explore the past, present and future of cloud-based security. In this episode of the Security Insider podcast, we speak with Dimitrie Sandu, Head of Solutions Engineering (EMEA), Verdaka about:
• The benefits and considerations of pure cloud, hybrid cloud, and old-school security setups.
• How AI can revolutionise physical security across any industry.
• Why security pros are moving away from vintage on-prem solutions in favour of the cloud (spoiler: it’s all about speed and flexibility).
• How can integrated systems improve threat detection and response in real-time?
Ep 148 - Smart Cities, Are they reality for Australia's Future?
Avec Adam Beck
From ‘smart cities’ to AI-shaped public spaces—how do we keep the cyber-physical world safe? In this episode of the Security Insider podcast, we’re joined by Adam Beck, the founding force behind the Smart …
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From ‘smart cities’ to AI-shaped public spaces—how do we keep the cyber-physical world safe? In this episode of the Security Insider podcast, we’re joined by Adam Beck, the founding force behind the Smart Cities Council in Australia and New Zealand, to unpack what’s hype, what’s real, and what security leaders must do next.
If you’re a corporate security manager, a security company owner, or a government security adviser, this episode will give you a pragmatic playbook: governance, architecture, and procurement moves that reduce risk while unlocking value from city-scale tech.
Ep 147 - Tackling The Demographic Decline in Security
Avec Codee Lubey
The security industry has a growing problem: not enough young leaders are choosing security as a first career. Furthermore, for those younger people who do enter the industry, too many struggle to see a clear …
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The security industry has a growing problem: not enough young leaders are choosing security as a first career. Furthermore, for those younger people who do enter the industry, too many struggle to see a clear path forward. In this episode, I speak with Codee Ludbey (CPP), co-founder of Core42 and a researcher focused on corporate security careers and progression. We explore what’s holding recruitment and retention back, how to make security a more attractive and future-focused profession, and what employers can do right now to develop the next wave of capable security leaders.
Ep 146 - Occupational Health and Safety in Security: How to avoid Common , Costly Mistakes
Avec Dr Tony Zalewski
In this episode of the ASIAL Security Insider Podcast, we sit down with Dr Tony Zalewski to unpack occupational health and safety in the security industry – what it really means in practice, and where …
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In this episode of the ASIAL Security Insider Podcast, we sit down with Dr Tony Zalewski to unpack occupational health and safety in the security industry – what it really means in practice, and where organisations commonly get it wrong. Drawing on decades of experience in risk, security and major personal injury cases, Tony explains who is responsible for providing a safe workplace, how effective WHS systems are developed, and why context and consultation are critical. We also explore practical approaches to risk assessment, the difference between a safe system of work and a safe place of work, and real-world lessons from case studies that every security provider, venue operator and contractor should hear.
Ep 145 - Lessons from the White House to Your House
Avec Theresa Payton
In this episode of the Security Insider podcast, we’re joined by Theresa Payton—a trailblazer in technology and cybersecurity and the first female White House Chief Information Officer under President George W …
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In this episode of the Security Insider podcast, we’re joined by Theresa Payton—a trailblazer in technology and cybersecurity and the first female White House Chief Information Officer under President George W. Bush Jr. As CEO and chief advisor at Fortalice, and a trusted voice for Fortune 500 boards and major news networks—plus a stint on CBS’s reality series Hunted—Theresa is renowned for translating complex cyber risk into practical action. Her presentation, delivered at Cybercon in Melbourne recently, titled Leading with Purpose: Lessons from the White House to Your House, distils frontline insights on resilience, values-based decision-making, and safeguarding people and data in the age of AI. We’ll dig into how to harness AI’s upside while defending against modern cybercriminal tradecraft—at work and at home.
Ep 144 - What’s Eating the Security Industry: How to Thrive in Today’s Global Evolution
Avec Lee Odess
In this episode of the ASIAL Security Insider podcast, we are joined by Lee Odess, CEO of The Access Control Collective and founder of the Access Control Executive Brief, a widely read analysis hub for the …
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In this episode of the ASIAL Security Insider podcast, we are joined by Lee Odess, CEO of The Access Control Collective and founder of the Access Control Executive Brief, a widely read analysis hub for the physical access and smart lock space. Lee sits on the board of the Security Industry Association in the US and is known for transforming global research into practical playbooks for owners, integrators, and vendors. He recently delivered a talk titled “What’s Eating the Security Industry: How to Thrive in Today’s Global Evolution,” arguing that while the traditional ~$10B high-security niche is changing fast, a much larger ~$100B mainstream market is taking shape. We’ll unpack what’s driving that shift, the timeline, and how leaders can position their teams to win.
Ep 143 - Marketing for Growth
Avec Adam Ferrier
In this episode of the ASIAL Security Insider podcast, we sit down with renowned psychologist and creative strategist Adam Ferrier, founder of Thinkerbell and regular panelist on Gruen. We explore how to …
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In this episode of the ASIAL Security Insider podcast, we sit down with renowned psychologist and creative strategist Adam Ferrier, founder of Thinkerbell and regular panelist on Gruen. We explore how to uncover your business’s brand and use it as a powerful driver for growth. Adam shares insights from marketing science and creativity, revealing practical strategies for standing out in competitive markets and building stronger connections with customers.
Ep 142 - Managing Crowd Safety At Major Events
Avec Steve Allen
In this episode of the Security Insider podcast, we’re tackling a topic that sits right at the heart of every security, event, and facility manager’s responsibility—keeping crowds safe.In 2021, the Astroworld …
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In this episode of the Security Insider podcast, we’re tackling a topic that sits right at the heart of every security, event, and facility manager’s responsibility—keeping crowds safe.
In 2021, the Astroworld Festival ended in tragedy when ten lives were lost in a crowd surge that investigators later concluded could have been prevented. Out of that heartbreak, the Pink Bows Foundation was created by the family of Madison Dubiski, one of the victims, to ensure no family has to endure that kind of loss again.
At the centre of their work is the Showstop® Procedure. This proven system empowers event organisers and security teams to act decisively and stop a performance if there’s a credible threat to life safety. It’s already been used successfully around the world, preventing injuries and saving lives.
Our guest for this episode is Steve Allen, the developer of the Showstop® Procedure and a leading voice in global crowd safety. Steve has decades of experience working with major artists, festivals, and venues, and he’s now working with the Pink Bows Foundation to make Showstop® training a global standard.
We’ll be talking about the lessons learned from past tragedies, what the Showstop® Procedure looks like in practice, and most importantly, what you—as security professionals and event managers—can take away to make your venues and events safer.”
Ep 141 - Closing the Skills Gap for Security Technicians
In this episode of the ASIAL Security Insider podcast, we speak with Darrell Gilmour, Director of Technical Training at Skills for Security, an organisation in the UK that trains and provides apprentices to …
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In this episode of the ASIAL Security Insider podcast, we speak with Darrell Gilmour, Director of Technical Training at Skills for Security, an organisation in the UK that trains and provides apprentices to systems integrators.
Darrell explains how they are helping to tackle the technical skills gap in the UK and why they have partnered with World Skills to promote Security Systems technician as a career of choice.
Ep 140 - The Changing Profile of Terrorism Around The World.
Avec Sagit Yehoshua
Following the recent events in the Middle East, the many intelligence agencies in the West have stated they expect to see a rise in terrorist activities in the foreseeable future. In this episode of the ASIAL …
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Following the recent events in the Middle East, the many intelligence agencies in the West have stated they expect to see a rise in terrorist activities in the foreseeable future. In this episode of the ASIAL Security Insider podcast, we explore the dramatic changes that have occurred over the last decade, since the fall of ISIS, regarding the operational, motivational, and behavioural characteristics of terrorists and terrorist groups.
Our guest for this conversation is Sagit Yehoshua. Sagit is a criminologist and a terrorism specialist, focusing on criminal and terrorist profiling. Sagit was awarded her PhD by King's College London and is a Research Fellow at the Institute of Counter-Terrorism at Richmond University in Israel, as well as an Atkin Research Fellow at the International Centre for the Study of De-radicalisation at King's College London. Sagit has extensive experience as a consultant for official intelligence agencies, multi-national corporations and private sector risk management companies and is a recognised profiler and risk assessor of extremists in both Israel and internationally.
Ep 139 - The Security Challenges of Hosting Major Event
In this episode of the ASIAL Security Insider podcast, Tony Keane discusses the challenges of running major events.As the Head of Integrity & Security at the Australian Football League, Tony is responsible for …
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In this episode of the ASIAL Security Insider podcast, Tony Keane discusses the challenges of running major events.
As the Head of Integrity & Security at the Australian Football League, Tony is responsible for the security of over 900 events per year, ranging from Australian Rules football matches to hosting some of the world's largest Cricket matches and a wide array of the leading music acts from across the globe.
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Ep 138 - Can Security Video Survive Generative AI?
Avec Leo Levit
In this episode of the ASIAL Security Insider podcast, we discuss the impact of Generative AI on the future of security video. To help with the discussion, we are joined by Leo Levit, the Chairman of ONVIF, the …
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In this episode of the ASIAL Security Insider podcast, we discuss the impact of Generative AI on the future of security video. To help with the discussion, we are joined by Leo Levit, the Chairman of ONVIF, the global open industry forum that’s been setting the standard for IP-based security products for over 15 years.
With extensive experience in security technology and a passion for driving collaboration across the industry, Leo has been instrumental in advancing ONVIF’s mission to create a more open and standardized security ecosystem.
In this episode, we cover the kinds of threats to video authenticity that we are seeing today. What is ONVIF doing to help the industry protect video authenticity? What is ONVIF's outlook on AI and its impact on security in general?
For more podcasts like this one, visit www.asial.com.au.
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