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LaunchLeft is a music discovery podcast where famed creatives launch emerging artists. Hosted by Rain Phoenix you can expect in-depth conversations with well-known musicians discussing their process and, throwing light to emerging artists. LaunchLeft is an alliance of artists who break from the norm and lean into the unique. We enlist famed creatives to launch emerging artists. For full video episodes go to LaunchLeft.com/Podcast
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IAN SVENONIUS launches Crush
Guest host Ian Svenonius takes over LaunchLeft to explore the boundaries of underground rock and roll. As an author, musician, and filmmaker, Ian shares his unique perspective on navigating music industry …
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Guest host Ian Svenonius takes over LaunchLeft to explore the boundaries of underground rock and roll. As an author, musician, and filmmaker, Ian shares his unique perspective on navigating music industry trends, exploring various music genres, and preserving artistic authenticity in a highly digital world.
Ian officially launches the independent music duo Crush, featuring Cole Alexander and Zumi Rosow of the Black Lips. Cole and Zumi discuss their debut vinyl release, the raw power of the live music experience, and how they channel their creative chaos to formulate a sound that refuses to be categorized or restrained.
What You Will Learn in This Episode
✅ How Crush maintains creative control across multiple music genres.
✅ Why the live music experience is vital for independent musicians.
✅ The impact of musical influences on their artistic philosophy.
✅ How to harness creative chaos to craft true underground rock and roll.LaunchLeft champions artists for whom radical creativity is a necessity. Support these artists by streaming, sharing, and showing up at live events. Donate to keep independent, left-of-center voices thriving. If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to rate, subscribe, and leave a review to help more listeners discover LaunchLeft!
TIMESTAMPS
- 00:00 Guest host Ian Svenonius launches the band Crush
- 03:10 Cole Alexander and Zumi Rosow explain their varied musical influences and rejecting strict music genres.
- 06:20 Zumi Rosow reflects on learning the saxophone in rock and childhood art programs.
- 11:25 How the saxophone cuts through the noise in rock and roll history.
- 17:15 The band details their debut vinyl release and preserving the live music experience.
- 20:15 The group jokes about playing with holograms and super intelligence technology.
- 25:55 Ian coins a new genre called Malibu Barbie Dream House Rock.
- 29:30 Unpacking the concept of the chaos frequency.
- 36:10 The conversation shifts to OCD, religious rituals, and ancient history.
- 01:00:37 Ian wraps up this masterclass in underground rock and roll.
TAKEAWAYS
💎 Blending multiple music genres allows bands to avoid being boxed in.
💎 Leaning into creative chaos forces audiences to stay present and experience the moment.
💎 Withholding immediate digital access can build anticipation and restores value to physical music.
💎 True underground rock and roll relies on genuine artistic authenticity and creative control.ABOUT THE GUESTS
Crush is an electrifying independent music duo formed by Cole Alexander and Zumi Rosow, both prominent members of the Black Lips. Zumi is a multi-instrumentalist, artist, and designer who brings distinct saxophone skills and visual flair to the project. Cole, a singer and guitarist, provides a raw and unpredictable energy that defines their sound. Together, they released their highly anticipated debut 45 on Glue Moon Records. They are dedicated to delivering an unmatched live music experience that challenges modern music industry trends.ABOUT THE HOST
Ian Svenonius is an acclaimed author, musician, and filmmaker renowned in the underground music scene. He has released numerous books and dozens of records, consistently pushing boundaries with his artistic philosophy. Currently, his latest record is ESCAPE-ISM’s "Charge of The Love Brigade" on Radical Elite Records. He recently wrote and produced a stage play called "The Story of Johnny Lightning," cementing his status as a multi disciplinary creator. His expanded edition of "Supernatural Strategies for Making a Rock ’n’ Roll Group" continues to influence DIY music artists globally.RESOURCES MENTIONED
KEYWORDS
LaunchLeft podcast, Ian Svenonius interview, Crush, Black Lips, independent musicians, DIY music artists, women in alternative music, creative process interview, artistic authenticity, self-produced music, alternative rock podcast, ESCAPE-ISM, Come On Blood, underground rock and roll, music genres, live music experience, creative control, saxophone in rock, musical influences, debut vinyl release, creative chaos, music industry trends, artistic philosophy, underground music scene, Music discovery podcast, independent artists, Emerging artists music, Independent music podcast, Rain Phoenix podcast, new wave and punk podcastMELISSA AUF DER MAUR launches Petra Szilagyi
Musician, photographer and writer Melissa Auf der Maur shares stories from her memoir Even the Good Girls Will Cry and her pro human artistic approach. She explores her analog era artistic process from her …
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Musician, photographer and writer Melissa Auf der Maur shares stories from her memoir Even the Good Girls Will Cry and her pro human artistic approach. She explores her analog era artistic process from her touring years before digital media transformed creative culture.
Melissa, host of this episode, launches interdisciplinary sculptor Petra Szilagyi to discuss their interactive prayer space work and the Apocalypse Anonymous project. Together, they explore a 12 step spiritual framework, sacred artistic spaces, and how independent artists build community outside corporate spaces.
What You Will Learn in This Episode
✅ How Melissa Auf der Maur draws from her analog era artistic process.
✅ Why Petra Szilagyi built an interactive prayer space for real connection.
✅ How the Apocalypse Anonymous project creates community through recovery.
✅ How cross generational creative connection sustains art outside corporate spaces.LaunchLeft champions artists for whom radical creativity is a necessity. Support these artists by streaming, sharing, and showing up at live events. Donate to keep independent, left-of-center voices thriving. If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to rate, subscribe, and leave a review to help more listeners discover LaunchLeft!
TIMESTAMPS
00:05 Melissa Auf der Maur introduces Petra Szilagyi
02:07 Meeting through Hawthorne Valley Farm and shared spiritual Waldorf connections
10:10 Breakthrough spiritual moments and Melissa on memoir Even the Good Girls Will Cry 18:00 Petra on studying politics, music, and the unveiling after September 11th
23:30 Studying performance art, West Africa experiences, and Yoruba knowledge systems 28:20 Leaving tour life to found Basilica Hudson non profit arts center
36:30 Petra on 12 step recovery, prayer, and building the first interactive prayer space
44:48 Petra Szilagyi is launched as they discuss post human experience and technology
55:02 Exploring the Apocalypse Anonymous project and redefining the apocalypse
01:05:24 Translating 12 step spiritual framework into community arts and future gatheringsKEY TAKEAWAYS
- True creative freedom requires stepping away from digital noise to build grounded physical spaces for community.
- Embracing an interactive prayer space allows artists to foster spiritual connection without relying on rigid religious dogma.
- The Apocalypse Anonymous project shows how recovery tools can transform existential anxiety into collective artistic expression.
- Long-term artistic authenticity thrives when creators build independent platforms and foster cross generational creative connection.
ABOUT THE GUESTS
MELISSA AUF DER MAUR Before becoming the bassist for 90s alternative rock bands Hole and the Smashing Pumpkins, Montreal born Melissa Auf der Maur studied photography at Concordia University. She maintained her daily practice while on the road, requesting a roll of 35mm film at every venue as part of her rider, resulting in over 10,000 images documenting life onstage and away from crowds. A major exhibition of Auf der Maur's photographs is on view at the Art Gallery of Ontario from September 2, 2026, accompanied by a hardback photobook published by the AGO and DelMonico Books. Her photographs have been featured in National Geographic and Spin, and in 2010 she cofounded the non profit arts center Basilica Hudson in upstate New York. This past March, Auf der Maur published her memoir, Even the Good Girls Will Cry.
PETRA SZILAGYI Petra Szilagyi is an interdisciplinary sculptor, artist, and educator currently based in Somerville, Massachusetts. Raised in Los Angeles and educated at Williams College and VCU, Szilagyi works extensively with woodworking, installation, performance, and visual art and sculpture. Their work focuses on exploring spiritual awakening through contemporary art and sculpture while designing non denominational sacred artistic spaces that invite public participation. Szilagyi created the Apocalypse Anonymous project, an interactive initiative blending a 12 step spiritual framework with contemporary art and performance. Their installations have been featured at major venues including MASS MoCA and the Center for Contemporary Arts in Lagos, Nigeria.
RESOURCES MENTIONED
- Even the Good Girls Will Cry by Melissa Auf der Maur
- Basilica Hudson
- MASS MoCA
- LaunchLeft Podcast Smart Link
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LaunchLeft podcast, Melissa Auf der Maur interview, Petra Szilagyi, Hole, Smashing Pumpkins, independent musicians, DIY music artists, women in alternative music, creative process interview, artistic authenticity, self-produced music, alternative rock podcast, underground music scene, Emerging artists music, Independent music podcast, Rain Phoenix podcast, Alternative rock podcast, Underground music, new wave and punk podcast, Even the Good Girls Will Cry, analog era artistic process, Apocalypse Anonymous project, interactive prayer space, pro human artistic approach, visual art and sculpture, cross generational creative connection, 12 step spiritual framework, post human experience, non profit arts center, sacred artistic spaces.
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THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS launch Tele Novella
Guest host Rich Tupica sits down for an electrifying John Flansburgh interview, diving headfirst into four decades of They Might Be Giants magic. John shares insider stories about their latest album, The World …
Notes de l’épisode
Guest host Rich Tupica sits down for an electrifying John Flansburgh interview, diving headfirst into four decades of They Might Be Giants magic. John shares insider stories about their latest album, The World Is to Dig, the true craft behind pop music songwriting, wild vocal lessons, and why staying curious keeps an indie band thriving.
Then, John proudly launches Texas duo Tele Novella, taking listeners into their world of folk fantasy music. Discover how their cassette-tracked magic and visual flair prove that radical DIY artistry is alive and kicking.
What You’ll Learn This Episode:
✅ How John Flansburgh approaches pop music songwriting and creative growth.
✅ Why Tele Novella embraces folk fantasy music and theatrical visual art.
✅ The role of independent record labels in shaping underground scenes.
✅ How vocal training for singers and studio curiosity foster longevity.LaunchLeft champions artists for whom radical creativity is a necessity. Support these artists by streaming, sharing, and showing up at live events. Donate to keep independent, left-of-center voices thriving. If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to rate, subscribe, and leave a review to help more listeners discover LaunchLeft!
TIMESTAMPS- 00:00 Rich Tupica welcomes John Flansburgh to discuss the new They Might Be Giants album, The World Is to Dig
- 01:45 John on choosing power pop covers like Starry Eyes and Istanbul
- 05:00 Reflections on DJing, doo-wop, and vintage musical gear techniques
- 08:45 Thoughts on Alex Chilton, Paul Westerberg, and fame
- 16:25 Aiming for pure pop music songwriting and crafting memorable melodies
- 20:30 Recording studio experimentation behind the instrumental Peggy Guggenheim 25:20 The reality of Dial-A-Song, tour props, and visual art decisions
- 31:55 Michael Azerrad profile and taking vocal training for singers
- 42:10 Early punk rock history memories and seeing bands at The Rat
- 46:55 Second guest is launched: John introduces Tele Novella
KEY TAKEAWAYS💎 Creative freedom thrives when artists focus on making captivating work rather than chasing temporary industry trends.
💎 Tele Novella builds a distinct identity by pairing analog textures with theatrical storytelling free of self-conscious vanity.
💎 True artistic longevity requires curiosity, continuous skill development, and embracing studio experimentation.
💎 Performing for small, dedicated crowds builds resilient foundational confidence that sustains long musical careers.RESOURCE LINKS:
JOHN FLANSBURGH LINKS:- https://www.theymightbegiants.com/
- https://www.instagram.com/tmbghq/
- https://www.youtube.com/@theymightbegiantsofficial
TELE NOVELLA LINKS:- https://telenovella.bandcamp.com/
- https://www.instagram.com/telenovellaband/
- https://www.killrockstars.com/artists/tele-novella
BIOGRAPHIES:
JOHN FLANSBURGH (THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS)John Flansburgh is a founding member of the multi-Grammy-winning duo They Might Be Giants, who treat the entire history of popular music as a trampoline rather than a rulebook. Alongside John Linnell, he has built an iconic four-decade career defined by esoteric references, melodic left turns, and unyielding creative independence. On their album The World Is to Dig (Idlewild Recordings), the band continues to fire ideas like particles in a perpetual motion experiment. Untethered from trends and immune to nostalgia, Flansburgh remains a relentless champion of left-of-center music and artistic curiosity.
TELE NOVELLATele Novella is a Texas-based duo currently residing in the small rural town of Lockhart, Texas, where they find inspiration for their medieval-western sound. With fable-like storytelling and thoughtfully crafted arrangements, their cinematically evocative recordings often contain chimes, dulcimers, toys, and vibraphones. Self-described as Folk-Fantasy and Magical Realism, their lyrics carry an otherworldly transmission recorded via cassette 8-track recorder. Released via Kill Rock Stars, Tele Novella crafts a distinct American Gothic vision that blends childlike wonder with wise storytelling.
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CHUCK D & JOHN DENSMORE launch Jabee & Kamau Daaood
Music icons Chuck D of Public Enemy and John Densmore of The Doors explore the concept of LaunchLeft and examine how raw creative expression bridges generations. The conversation centers on the intersection of …
Notes de l’épisode
Music icons Chuck D of Public Enemy and John Densmore of The Doors explore the concept of LaunchLeft and examine how raw creative expression bridges generations. The conversation centers on the intersection of hip hop and poetry, highlighting how rhythms and spoken word art carry powerful cultural histories.
Shifting the spotlight left of center, these legends launch two phenomenal independent creators: Oklahoma City rapper and community activist Jabee, and visionary LA poet Kamau Daaood. From founding historic jazz spaces to using hip hop for neighborhood revitalization, this episode uncovers how building community through independent music creates an enduring artistic legacy.
What You’ll Learn This Episode:
✅ How John Densmore honors social justice poetry and uses music mentorship to elevate new voices
✅ Why Jabee embraces a grassroots movement framework to transform local communities
✅ The power of a collaborative record to unite diverse genres like jazz and hip hop
✅ How independent creators preserve creative expression by staying true to their neighborhoods
LaunchLeft champions artists for whom radical creativity is a necessity. Support these artists by streaming, sharing, and showing up at live events. Donate to keep independent, left-of-center voices thriving. If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to rate, subscribe, and leave a review to help more listeners discover LaunchLeft!
IN THIS EPISODE:
- 00:00 Shepard Fairey welcomes musical icons John Densmore and Chuck D
- 01:19 John Densmore details his collaborative record work and poetry appreciation
- 02:23 John Densmore recites powerful social justice poetry from Etheridge Knight
- 05:02 Kamau Daaood is launched as a visionary LA poet and community organizer
- 06:48 Reciting Kamau Daaood's evocative stanzas on the jazz and hip hop space
- 08:15 Jabee is launched as Chuck D introduces the independent hip hop artist
- 09:08 Chuck D explains the grassroots movement behind discovering Jabee online
- 11:55 How Jabee transformed early radio airplay into sustained community activism
- 14:59 Chuck D on his collaborative record curation with emerging Canadian vocalists
- 17:05 Jabee shares a personal audio message honoring Chuck D's music mentorship
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
- 💎 Artistic freedom thrives when creators protect their raw creative expression without corporate compromise.
- 💎 Independent creators can leverage their localized platforms to spark a powerful grassroots movement.
- 💎 Real community activism builds sustainable creative ecosystems that outlast standard promotional cycles.
- 💎 A true artistic legacy is cemented by mentoring and launching the next generation of rule breakers.
RESOURCE LINKS:
SHEPARD FAIREY
https://www.instagram.com/obeygiant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepard_Fairey
CHUCK D
https://www.instagram.com/mrchuckd
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_D
JOHN DENSMORE
https://www.instagram.com/johndensmore
https://www.facebook.com/johndensmore1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Densmore
JABEE LINKS:
https://www.instagram.com/mynameisjabee
https://jabee-mmg.bandcamp.com/
KAMAU DAAOOD LINKS:
https://www.leimertparkmovie.com/team/kamau-daaood/
BIOGRAPHIES:
John Densmore is the legendary drummer of the seminal rock band The Doors. Beyond his foundational place in rock history, he is an accomplished author, poet, and advocate for independent artists. His lifelong dedication to creative expression fuels his current work bridging the worlds of jazz, rock, and spoken word poetry.
Chuck D is the iconic co-founder and frontman of the legendary hip hop group Public Enemy. A fierce activist, author, and digital pioneer, he continues to redefine music mentorship through his global curatorial platform, Rap Station. He works tirelessly to support independent musicians and community-driven arts programs worldwide.
Jabee is an acclaimed hip hop artist and Emmy-award-winning community activist based in Oklahoma City. Known for his sharp lyrical execution and grassroots movement projects, he owns local businesses that serve as creative hubs for the neighborhood. He uses hip hop as a direct vehicle for community empowerment and social change.
Kamau Daaood is a celebrated Los Angeles poet, educator, and a fixture of the West Coast spoken word art community. He co-founded The World Stage in Leimert Park, a legendary performance space fostering jazz and poetry. He remains a vital carrier of ancestral knowledge and creative expression.
SHEPARD FAIREY launches DOPE
Shepard Fairey hosts cultural icons Chuck D of Public Enemy and John Densmore of The Doors as they discuss their groundbreaking collaboration, DOPE | No Country for Old Men. What happens when different genres …
Notes de l’épisode
Shepard Fairey hosts cultural icons Chuck D of Public Enemy and John Densmore of The Doors as they discuss their groundbreaking collaboration, DOPE | No Country for Old Men. What happens when different genres collide with a purpose? Their conversation explores activism, artistic responsibility, hip hop and rock history, creative evolution, spoken word, poetry, social change, and the power of music to challenge systems. Together, they reveal how generations of artists can unite to create meaningful work in a time of distraction and division.
What You Will Learn in This Episode:
✅ How Chuck D and John Densmore merged hip hop, rock, poetry, and activism to create DOPE.✅ Why artists have a responsibility to challenge power structures and inspire critical thinking.
✅ The similarities between rap lyricism, spoken word poetry, and jazz improvisation.
✅ How collaboration across generations and genres can spark new creativity and cultural dialogue.
LaunchLeft champions artists for whom radical creativity is a necessity. Support these artists by streaming, sharing, and showing up at live events. Donate to keep independent, left-of-center voices thriving. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to rate, subscribe, and leave a review to help more listeners discover LaunchLeft!
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Welcome to LaunchLeft
00:01:34 Shepard Fairey praises Chuck D's book Hour of Chaos
00:05:58 Activism, civil rights movements, and why DOPE matters now
00:17:00 How the DOPE collaboration first came together
00:22:54 John Densmore on rap as an art form equal to jazz improvisation
00:25:52 Learning hip hop production, drum machines, and creative evolution
00:28:15 Etheridge Knight, poetry, and spoken word influences on the album
00:38:00 "Artificial Intelligence vs. Ancestral Intelligence" discussion
00:44:29 Revisiting Doors history through the song "Doomsday"
00:46:56 "Everybody gets older, but they don't get elder"
01:05:21 Building bridges through art, education, and cultural conversation
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
💎Great Art Bridges Generations and Genres: DOPE demonstrates that meaningful collaboration isn't limited by age, genre, or background. Chuck D and John Densmore found common ground through activism, storytelling, and a shared desire to create art that matters.
💎Activism Remains Central to Creativity: Music can be a vehicle for social awareness and change. Their work continues the tradition of artists using their platforms to challenge injustice and inspire dialogue.
💎Hip Hop and Rock Share More Than People Realize: The conversation reveals deep connections between rap, rock, jazz, poetry, and spoken word. Great music transcends genre labels and is rooted in expression, rhythm, and truth.
💎Experience Doesn't Automatically Create Wisdom: One of the most powerful themes is the distinction between aging and becoming an elder. The discussion centers on mentorship, responsibility, and passing knowledge to future generations.
ABOUT THE GUESTS:
SHEPARD FAIREY is a contemporary street artist, graphic designer, activist, and founder of OBEY Clothing and creative agency Studio Number One. In 1989, while at Rhode Island School of Design studying for his Bachelor of Fine Arts in Illustration, Shepard Fairey created the “Andre the Giant has a Posse” sticker that later evolved into the OBEY GIANT art campaign. In 2008, his portrait of then-Democratic candidate Barack Obama became an internationally recognized emblem of hope. He is known for the “We The People” campaign debuted during the 2017 Women’s Marches worldwide. Fairey has painted more than 140 public murals, become one of the most sought-after and provocative artists globally, and changed the way people converse about art and view the urban landscape.
JOHN DENSMORE is the drummer for the legendary rock band The Doors. In 1993, he was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, and since then, he has earned a Grammy® Lifetime Achievement Award and a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. In addition to his three books, the best-selling Riders on the Storm: My Life with Jim Morrison & The Doors, The Doors Unhinged: Jim Morrison’s Legacy Goes On Trial and The Seekers: Meetings With Remarkable Musicians (and Other Artists), his writing has also been featured in the Los Angeles Times, Rolling Stone, the Guardian, the Nation, and Chicago Tribune, among others. He lives in Los Angeles.
CHUCK D is a Rock and Roll Hall of Famer, cultural icon, hip-hop legend, social activist, author, digital music pioneer, visual artist and multi-media producer. Known worldwide as the co-founder of Public Enemy, he ignited a movement with his fearless lyrics and remains one of the most influential figures in contemporary culture.
Creating and delivering groundbreaking music since 1987, Public Enemy and Chuck D have been the subjects of exhibits at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the GRAMMY Museum and the GRAMMY Hall of Fame.
In addition to his work with Public Enemy and his solo career, Chuck D released an album with John Densmore of The Doors. He is also a visual artist whose work has been exhibited in galleries and museums worldwide and is included in the permanent collection of the Smithsonian Institution’s National Museum of African American History and Culture. A retrospective of his work was published by Genesis Books in 2023 entitled “Livin’ Loud” and he has released a series of graphic novels and illustrated books. Chuck runs a magazine titled Rap Central Station, the cultural media app Bring the Noise, hosts a show on SiriusXM and has written several books.
RESOURCES:
GUEST RESOURCES:
SHEPARD FAIREY
https://www.instagram.com/obeygiant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepard_Fairey
CHUCK D
https://www.instagram.com/mrchuckd
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_D
JOHN DENSMORE
https://www.instagram.com/johndensmore
https://www.facebook.com/johndensmore1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Densmore
Books Mentioned:
Hour of Chaos: The History of Public Enemy and American Rap Music by Chuck D
Follow the Music by Jack Holzman
Bones of My Father by Etheridge Knight
JENNY LEE (WARPAINT) launches Sierra Swan
Today on LaunchLeft, guest host Rich Tupica chats with Jenny Lee Lindberg for a candid conversation about longevity and creativity, collaboration, and artistic independence. Jenny opens up about balancing music …
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Today on LaunchLeft, guest host Rich Tupica chats with Jenny Lee Lindberg for a candid conversation about longevity and creativity, collaboration, and artistic independence. Jenny opens up about balancing music and painting, Warpaint’s evolving future, and finding freedom through visual art. Then, Jenny launches Sierra Swan, who reflects on growing up around music, self-producing her work, and embracing a fearless DIY spirit. Together, they discuss Los Angeles nightlife, artistic authenticity, dance, and why creating without compromise matters more than ever.
What You Will Learn in This Episode:
✅ How Jenny Lee balances painting, songwriting, and life outside Los Angeles✅ Why Sierra Swan embraces complete creative control over her music and visuals
✅ The impact of the changing music industry on independent artists
✅ How friendship, dance, and artistic community fuel long-term creativity
LaunchLeft champions artists for whom radical creativity is a necessity. Support these artists by streaming, sharing, and showing up at live events. Donate to keep independent, left-of-center voices thriving. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to rate, subscribe, and leave a review to help more listeners discover LaunchLeft!
TIMESTAMPS:
- 00:00 Rich Tupica welcomes Jenny Lee
- 01:10 Jenny discusses leaving Los Angeles for Salt Lake City and how that’s impacted her creative process
- 04:08 Jenny opens up about ADHD, hyper-focus, and creative deadlines
- 05:28 Warpaint’s upcoming Meltdown Festival performance and band hiatus
- 08:00 Painting as therapy and rediscovering creativity during the pandemic
- 10:00 Jenny reflects on collaborating with Dave Gahan
- 14:50 Dream collaborators: André 3000 and Mark Rothko
- 20:14 Jenny discusses burnout and the changing music industry
- 28:16 Sierra Swan is launched. She shares how she met Jenny at Burning Man
- 37:20 Sierra previews her upcoming EP Mistress of Love and her DIY creative process
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
💎Creativity thrives in freedom. Painting gave Jenny a level of artistic freedom she rarely experienced in collaborative music settings. Working alone allows her to reconnect with her instincts and create without compromise or outside pressure.
💎Sierra Swan sees value in handling every aspect of her creative work herself—from songwriting and directing videos to self-releasing music.
💎The music industry has dramatically changed. Jenny reflects on how exhausting and financially unsustainable the modern music business has become for many artists. Streaming culture and constant online promotion have fundamentally shifted artistic careers.
💎Community and friendship sustain artists. Jenny and Sierra’s decades-long friendship demonstrates the importance of encouragement, collaboration, and mutual inspiration.
ABOUT THE GUESTS:
Jenny Lee Lindberg is a multidisciplinary artist whose creative work bridges the raw pulse of post-punk music with the intuitive expressionism of visual art. She is best known as the bassist and founding member of the critically acclaimed band Warpaint.
Parallel to her music career, Jenny Lee is a prolific painter whose visual work reveals the same spontaneity and emotional honesty that defines her sound. Working primarily in acrylics and mixed media, her paintings often explore form, color, and gesture through an abstract lens. Her visual art, like her music, resists easy categorization - favoring mood, movement, and process over polish or perfection.
With a DIY ethos and a fiercely independent spirit, Jenny Lee continues to evolve as an artist across mediums, crafting immersive experiences that are deeply personal, rhythmically rich, and emotionally resonant.
Sierra Marie Swan was born in the San Fernando Valley with music in her blood. Her father Billy Swan had his first hit when he was sixteen with Lover Please. During Sierra’s many nights backstage while her father played rhythm guitar for Kris Kristofferson, she conjured up her own dreams of becoming a professional musician.
As a teenager, Sierra listened to Prince, Queen, Oingo Boingo, The Beatles, Grant Lee Buffalo, Mozart and Patsy Cline. It was Patsy Cline who inspired her singing career. When she was 16 she began playing at L.A. coffeehouses.
In 1997 Sierra joined the alternative rock band Dollshead and was signed to MCA Records. Two years later Sierra decided to leave the band and become a solo artist signing with Atlantic Records. She went on to work with some illustrious producers including Chad Hugo from The Neptunes, Howard Benson, Anne Preven and Scott Cutler. It was during the making of this record that she met Linda Perry. While they began to collaborate on material for her album she was let go from her contract with Atlantic. Linda decided to sign her to her label via Interscope, and Ladyland was released shortly thereafter.
Typical of the music industry, she was let go from her contract with Interscope. Not to be deterred, Sierra decided to make it on her own producing and performing the beautiful and haunting EP entitled “Coward", followed by “Queen of the Valley,” Sierra’s 80’s pop homage to her Valley Girl roots. She then produced her third full length album ‘Girl Who Cried Wolf’, following a cover EP with her critically acclaimed father Billy Swan at the legendary Sun Studios in Memphis.
Sierra has also toured and collaborated with the likes of The Smashing Pumpkins, William Patrick Corgan, Aimee Mann, Bill Bottrell, Dave Stewart, Linda Perry, Ringo Starr, and Frank Black.
Sierra Swan embodies the true spirit of a musical artist. She’s had major label deals and major label drops. Through it all Sierra doesn’t miss a beat.
In 2013 she began recording her most personal record yet with William Patrick Corgan sitting in the producer's chair.
In William's words “Sierra’s new songs are the best batch of material I have heard from any songwriter in forever.” The album named Good Soldier is available for download here. This whimsically gorgeous album is a must have album. The outcome of Sierra Swan's Good Soldier is truly remarkable. There is simply nobody like her.
Currently Swan is recording an EP in her basement in her Minneapolis home. There is also another project brewing but she is not quite sure what will become of it...yet.
RESOURCES:
GUEST RESOURCES:
JENNY LEE LINKS:
https://www.jennyleelindberg.com/
https://www.instagram.com/jennylibrary/
https://www.instagram.com/warpaint/
https://www.warpaintwarpaint.com/
https://www.youtube.com/@WarpaintOfficial
SIERRA SWAN LINKS:
https://www.instagram.com/sierraswan/
MICHAEL DES BARRES launches Night Mover
Today on LaunchLeft, rock legend Michael Des Barres joins Donita Sparks for a wildly entertaining and deeply reflective conversation on creativity, resilience, and reinvention. From glam rock beginnings and …
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Today on LaunchLeft, rock legend Michael Des Barres joins Donita Sparks for a wildly entertaining and deeply reflective conversation on creativity, resilience, and reinvention. From glam rock beginnings and acting alongside icons to fronting The Power Station at Live Aid, Michael shares unforgettable stories, moments of happenstance and hard-earned wisdom. Plus, the rising duo Night Mover is launched. Night Mover discusses their musical history, their genre-blending sound, nightlife roots, and evolving artistry. Catch a sneak peek at one of Night Mover’s songs.
What You’ll Learn This Episode:
✅How Michael Des Barres built a multi-decade career through reinvention and fearless creativity
✅Why self-belief and authenticity are essential for artistic longevity
✅The realities of rock stardom—from Live Aid to behind-the-scenes chaos
✅How Night Mover blends global disco, punk, and electronic influences into a modern sound
IN THIS EPISODE:
- 00:00 Introduction to Michael Des Barres
- 01:17 The importance of self-belief in artistry
- 06:51 Landing a role in To Sir, With Love
- 12:17 Moving to LA with $200 and a dream
- 15:28 The Power Station and near-miss opportunity
- 19:11 Performing at Live Aid
- 21:15 Writing the hit song “Obsession”
- 23:35 New music: “Kiss or Kill Me”
- 32:31 Life as a radio host on Underground Garage
- 41:31 Night Mover is launched
- 47:30 Current film project and DJ history
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
💎 Authenticity beats trends. Great artists don’t chase, they create.
💎 Reinvention is a skill that sustains long-term success.
💎 Rock and roll is as much about attitude and emotion as it is about sound.
💎 Collaboration and shared passion are driving forces behind new creative projects.
RESOURCE LINKS:
MDB Links:
https://www.instagram.com/mdesbarres
https://www.facebook.com/mdesbarres
https://www.youtube.com/user/MichaelDesBarresBand
NIGHT MOVER LINK:
https://www.instagram.com/nightmovermusic/
BIOGRAPHIES:
Michael Des Barres is an actor, rock singer, songwriter, and radio host. His arrival in the entertainment world began as a Marquis attending boarding school in England, where he first started acting at age eight in commercials and school plays.
At nineteen, Michael played the androgynous rock star Rose in the nude musical The Dirtiest Show In Town. Andrew Lloyd Webber saw Michael’s performance and went backstage to tell him that he should form a real rock band. Michael quickly wrote his first song. That song lead to the formation of Silverhead, a raucous glam rock experiment.
After two albums and two world tours Silverhead disbanded and Michael moved to Los Angeles where he formed the band Detective. Detective was signed to Swan Song Records by Jimmy Page and recorded two albums.
In 1982 Michael formed the band Chequered Past featuring Steve Jones, Clem Burke, Nigel Harrison and Tony Sales. After they opened for Duran Duran in 1984, Michael was chosen to replace Robert Palmer as lead singer of The Power Station, fronting the band at the 1985 Live Aid concert.
As a songwriter Michael co-wrote “Obsession” with Holly Knight, which was famously covered by the L.A. based New Wave group Animotion and was a number one hit in twenty-seven countries.
Michael's love of acting had never subsided and in 1985 he was cast in the role of “Murdoc” in the ABC hit series MacGyver. Additional credits include Melrose Place, Seinfeld, WKRP in Cincinnati, Miami Vice, Alf, Roseanne, The Rockford Files, Northern Exposure, and many more.
In 2014 Michael was asked by Steven Van Zandt to bring his encyclopedic knowledge of rock and soul music to Little Steven’s Underground Garage, SiriusXM, Channel 21 where he can be found DJing every weekday from 5am-8am P/T, and 9pm-12am P/T.
Michael’s highly lauded documentary “Who Do You Want Me To Be?” began streaming July 10th, 2020 on Amazon Prime.
Currently MDB has a new single out on Rumbar Records entitled "Kiss or Kill Me."
NIGHT MOVER is a DJ and production duo made up of Alix Brown and James Matthew Seven, crafting cinematic sets shaped by film soundtracks and underground club culture. Their sound blends global disco, rock ‘n’ roll, obscure library music, and cosmic grooves into hypnotic, transportive experiences for hi-fi listening rooms and dance floors alike.
Alongside their work as performers, they run a boutique music agency and supervision studio, bringing a refined, cinematic approach to sonic identity across fashion, film, and nightlife.
Originally from Atlanta, Alix Brown is a DJ, music supervisor, and film producer whose work spans cinema, fashion, and culture. She has collaborated with Chanel, Gucci, and Fendi, and performed alongside artists like Nile Rodgers, Mark Ronson, James Murphy, Paris Hilton, and Jellybean Benitez. Her supervision work with companies including Lionsgate, Rai Cinema, and Warner Brothers informs NIGHT MOVER’s distinctly narrative-driven sound.
James Matthew Seven, originally from Toronto, is a producer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, and DJ whose work draws from disco, soul, psychedelia, and rock. As a touring musician, he has shared stages with Oasis, Wu-Tang Clan, and Iggy Pop, bringing a deep musicality and expansive sonic palette to the project.
Together, NIGHT MOVER creates immersive, stylish sets and bespoke edits and remixes, weaving rare records and timeless cuts into a sound defined by mood, movement, and a sense of atmosphere.
THURSTON MOORE launches Devon Ross
In this special episode of LaunchLeft, guest host Thurston Moore launches rising artist Devon Ross to celebrate the release of her new EP, Pinups. The project—a four-song digital release on Moore’s Daydream …
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In this special episode of LaunchLeft, guest host Thurston Moore launches rising artist Devon Ross to celebrate the release of her new EP, Pinups. The project—a four-song digital release on Moore’s Daydream Library Series—reimagines classic tracks through Ross’s raw, minimalist, and emotionally charged lens.
From analog nostalgia to DIY recording techniques, this conversation dives deep into Ross’s creative process, musical influences, and the timeless power of reinterpretation. Then, listeners will be treated to ‘Killer’, the song that first put Devon Ross on Thurston Moore’s radar.
What You Will Learn in This Episode:
✅ The story behind Devon Ross’s EP Pinups and its stripped-down, home-recorded sound✅ How artists like Buddy Holly, Bob Dylan, and Randy Newman shaped Devon’s musical identity
✅ Tension between convenience and connection in modern music consumption
✅ Why cover songs can be acts of discovery, not imitation
✅ Ross’s approach to recording entirely solo using minimal tools (even a phone drum app)
LaunchLeft champions artists for whom radical creativity is a necessity. Support these artists by streaming, sharing, and showing up at live events. Donate to keep independent, left-of-center voices thriving. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to rate, subscribe, and leave a review to help more listeners discover LaunchLeft!
TIMESTAMPS:
- 00:00 Introducing guest host Thurston Moore who launches Devon Ross on her Pinups release day
- 01:24 Discussion on digital vs. analog music culture and generational perspectives
- 02:06 Devon shares her love for physical media and early music influences
- 04:18 Breakdown of Pinups distribution across streaming platforms
- 04:35 Devon on learning guitar through Buddy Holly songs
- 11:11 Thurston reflects on Devon’s minimalist yet amplified reinterpretations
- 17:19 Conversation shifts to Bob Dylan and Blondie’s influences
- 18:43 Devon reveals how she recorded Pinups entirely solo, including layered guitars
- 22:30 The philosophy behind cover songs and musical reinterpretation
- 36:05 Devon teases her upcoming full-length album loud, cool, and rocking and creative direction and shares her song KILLER
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
💎Devon Ross approaches cover songs not as replicas, but as reinterpretations that reflect her own artistic voice. By maintaining the emotional core while reshaping the sonic landscape, she creates something that feels both familiar and entirely new.
💎Despite being part of a digital-native generation, Devon deeply values analog music culture—vinyl records, CDs, and physical collections. This influence shapes not only her listening habits but also her artistic sensibility, grounding her sound in timeless traditions.
💎Devon recorded Pinups entirely on her own, using minimal equipment—including a drum machine app on her phone. This stripped-down process allowed for complete creative control and emotional authenticity. This kind of intimacy often translates into a more compelling and honest listening experience.
💎Great songwriting transcends decades, whether it’s Buddy Holly in the 1950s or Randy Newman in the 1970s. Devon gravitates toward songs with strong emotional resonance, proving that simplicity and sincerity remain powerful across generations.
💎While Pinups is a focused, intimate project, Devon hints at a bigger, louder, and more fully realized full-length album on the horizon. The groundwork laid by this EP reflects her evolving confidence and artistic clarity.
ABOUT THE GUEST:
Thurston Moore started Sonic Youth in 1980. Since then Thurston Moore has been at the forefront of the alternative rock scene since that particular sobriquet was first used to signify any music that challenged and defied the mainstream standard.
With Sonic Youth, Moore turned on an entire generation to the value of experimentation in rock n roll – from its inspiration on a nascent Nirvana, to Sonic Youth’s own Daydream Nation album being chosen by the US Library of Congress for historical preservation in the National Recording Registry in 2006.
Thurston records and performs in a cavalcade of disciplines ranging from free improvisation to acoustic composition to black/white metal/noise disruption. He has worked with Yoko Ono, John Zorn, Bobby Gillespie, David Toop, Cecil Taylor, John Paul Jones, Faust, Glenn Branca and many others. His residency at the Louvre in Paris included collaborations with Irmin Schmidt of CAN and Stephen O’Malley. Alongside his various activities in the musical world, he is involved with publishing and poetry, and teaches writing at The Jack Kerouac School of Disembodied Poetics at Naropa University, Boulder CO, a programme founded by Allen Ginsberg and Anne Waldman in 1974. Thurston also teaches music at The Rhythmic Music Conservatory (Rytmisk Musikkonservatorium) in Copenhagen.
Presently Thurston Moore resides in London. He performs and records solo, with various ensembles and in his own band, The Thurston Moore Group.
Devon Ross is a model, actress, musician, and poet who splits her time between London and Los Angeles. Born in Toronto, Ross grew up touring with her father, Lenny Kravitz's guitarist Craig Ross. Music has always been a defining part of her life, and she started playing guitar as a teenager.
RESOURCES:
GUEST RESOURCES:
THURSTON MOORE LINKS:
https://www.thurstonmoore.com/
https://www.instagram.com/thurstonmoore58/
https://www.facebook.com/ThurstonMooreOfficial/
DEVON ROSS LINKS:
LENNY KAYE launches Dark Brown
In this rich and wide-ranging conversation, guest-host Donita Sparks welcomes the legendary Lenny Kaye—guitarist, historian, curator, and eternal champion of rock ‘n’ roll—to launch drummer and artist Bryan Lee …
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In this rich and wide-ranging conversation, guest-host Donita Sparks welcomes the legendary Lenny Kaye—guitarist, historian, curator, and eternal champion of rock ‘n’ roll—to launch drummer and artist Bryan Lee Brown, also known as Dark Brown.
From the 50th anniversary tour of Horses with Patti Smith to the making of Lenny Kaye’s first-ever solo album Going Local, this episode explores what it means to stay creatively alive across decades. Lenny reflects on the joy of playing without expectation, the freedom of releasing music later in life, and why work itself is the reward.
The conversation dives deep into Lenny’s acclaimed book Lightning Striking, a cultural history of rock’s geographic “culture quakes”—from Memphis and New Orleans to Liverpool, Detroit, New York, London, Los Angeles, and Seattle. Along the way, he shares stories about Waylon Jennings, Jessi Colter, the origin of the groundbreaking Nuggets compilation, and the power of local scenes.
Finally, they turn the spotlight to launch Dark Brown and his track “Rhythm Surfer,” featuring surf guitar pioneer Dick Dale. Bryan shares the surreal story of meeting Dale at NAMM—and two days later heading to the Mojave Desert to jam before touring Europe with him.
This episode is a love letter to rock history, artistic longevity, and the electric present tense of making music.
What You Will Learn in This Episode:
✅Why Lenny Kaye believes rock and roll has moved from its “innovative period” into its “interpretive period” — and why that excites him.
✅How local music scenes become cultural earthquakes that reshape history.
✅Why being a “worker” in music matters more than hype, expectations, or industry validation.
✅How Dark Brown’s American Instrument honors the drum set as a foundational force in American music — and how Dick Dale became part of the story.
LaunchLeft champions artists for whom radical creativity is a necessity. Support these artists by streaming, sharing, and showing up at live events. Donate to keep independent, left-of-center voices thriving. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to rate, subscribe, and leave a review to help more listeners discover LaunchLeft!
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Donita introduces Lenny Kaye and the 50th anniversary of Horses
02:00 Playing Disney Hall & the lifeline of a 50-year-old record
05:17 Announcing Lenny’s first solo album Going Local
08:00 Living in the present tense of music
11:00 The pure joy of local bar gigs
17:48 Lightning Striking and the geography of rock revolutions
19:47 Memphis, New Orleans & the birth of rock
20:35 New York 1975, punk London, and metal Scandinavia
25:32 Writing, curating, and the legacy of Nuggets
27:00 Waylon Jennings, storytelling & the human behind the legend
35:15 SiriusXM and spinning the “platters that matter”
36:15 Dark Brown is launched
37:24 Working with Dick Dale
49:02 Dark Brown’s track, “Rhythm Surfer”
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
💎 Longevity comes from curiosity, not nostalgia. Kaye doesn’t cling to the past — he keeps playing, writing, and exploring because the act itself keeps him alive.
💎 The Local is sacred. Whether it’s Memphis in 1954 or a Wednesday night bar gig in New Jersey, scenes grow from small rooms into cultural revolutions.
💎 Music is a lifeline. From Horses to Nuggets to Going Local, Kaye sees music as an evolving conversation — not a finished monument.
💎 The process is the reward. Once a record is mastered, it no longer belongs to the artist. The joy is in the making.
ABOUT THE GUESTS:
LENNY KAYE: As musician, writer, and record producer, Lenny Kaye has been intimately involved with the creative impulse that marks the music. He is a founding member of Patti Smith and Her Band, dating from their first performance as a duo at St. Marks Church in New York’s East Village on February 10, 1971, and has worked with such artists as Suzanne Vega, Jim Carroll, Allen Ginsberg, Soul Asylum, and Jessi Colter. His books include You Call It Madness: The Sensuous Song of the Croon (2004); Waylon: An Autobiography (1994); and the newly released Lightning Striking: Ten Transformative Moments in Rock and Roll. His seminal anthology of garage rock, Nuggets: Original Artyfacts of the First Psychedelic Era, is regarded as defining a genre and recently celebrated its golden anniversary.
DARK BROWN:
Bryan Lee Brown is a Los Angeles-based composer and musician known for crafting immersive, rhythm-driven scores that blend abstract minimalism with melodic psychedelia. His work has been integral to Dave Grohl’s productions What Drives Us and HBO’s Emmy-winning Sonic Highways, for which Rolling Stone praised his score as "the show's unsung sonic element.”
A lifelong percussionist, Brown’s deep-rooted connection to rhythm shapes his compositions, layering hypnotic textures with cinematic energy. He first emerged as the powerhouse drummer for LA’s underground band Bluebird—signed to Steve Aoki’s Dim Mak Records—before expanding into TV and film as a sought-after session musician, recording with icons like Frank Black, Jerry Cantrell, and Duff McKagan. Most notably, his touring and recording with surf guitar legend Dick Dale have cemented his reputation as a dynamic and versatile musician.
Expanding beyond Sonic Highways and What Drives Us, Brown’s music resonates across a diverse range of projects, including CSI: Vegas, Unlocking The Truth, Jackass Forever, feature doc L7: Pretend We’re Dead, horror classic The Collection, and Stacy Peralta’s film Bones Brigade: An Autobiography.
Brown’s creative reach extends into contemporary art. His collaboration with acclaimed new media artist Jennifer Steinkamp on the video installation S.W.E.L.L. is now part of the permanent collection at the Museum of Contemporary Art, Los Angeles (MOCA)—a defining achievement for the Art Center College alum and a testament to his impact at the intersection of sound and visual innovation.
Bryan is currently in the studio recording drums with the Afghan Whigs and preparing for their upcoming 2026 tour.
RESOURCES:
GUEST RESOURCES:
Lenny Kaye:
https://www.instagram.com/lenny_kaye
Photo Credit: Dina Regine
Dark Brown:
https://www.instagram.com/darkbrownmusic
https://darkbrown.bandcamp.com
LYDIA LUNCH launches Genre is Death
In this episode of LaunchLeft, guest host Donita Sparks is joined by legendary no wave pioneer Lydia Lunch, celebrating her fearless artistry and the launch of Genre is Death. Lydia Lunch dives deep into her …
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In this episode of LaunchLeft, guest host Donita Sparks is joined by legendary no wave pioneer Lydia Lunch, celebrating her fearless artistry and the launch of Genre is Death. Lydia Lunch dives deep into her boundary-busting career, from her start in the 1970s New York underground to her influence across music, spoken word, and activism. The episode also shines a spotlight on emerging NYC band Genre is Death—members Taylor and Ty join the conversation, sharing their journey from Georgia to the NYC scene. Together, they explore the spirit of artistic rebellion, creative resilience, and the power of radical self-expression. Tune in for candid stories, inspiration, and a special performance from Genre is Death’s upcoming album, Attractive People.
What You’ll Learn This Episode:
✅Lydia Lunch recounts her teenage escape to New York, driven by the inspiration of the New York Dolls, her formation of Teenage Jesus and the Jerks, and the gritty, creative chaos of 1970s and pioneering “no wave”
✅Insights into Lydia’s constantly shifting creative identities—from tight, abrasive bands to big band projects and experimental spoken word. She breaks down her approach to musical collaboration, creative ownership, and why she curates her own sonic universe.
✅Lydia and Donita reflect on giving back, including workshops for women writers, bringing newcomers onto the spoken word stage, and the power of solidarity among outsider artists.
✅From Lydia’s ongoing podcast “The Lydian Spin” to new recordings, collaborations, and upcoming tours—plus tales of performing anywhere for the love of art, even in alleys ankle-deep in urine. There’s also talk of legendary collaborations, archival ambitions, and what it means to keep hustling in independent music.
LaunchLeft champions artists for whom radical creativity is a necessity. Support these artists by streaming, sharing, and showing up at live events. Donate to keep independent, left-of-center voices thriving. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to rate, subscribe, and leave a review to help more listeners discover LaunchLeft!
IN THIS EPISODE:
00:00 Intro: Lydia Lunch’s Origins: From Runaway Teen to No Wave Pioneer
02:22 1970s New York City: Chaos, Cheap Rent, and Artistic Revolution
05:11 The Birth of No Wave: Rejecting Genres and Reinventing Sound
09:16 Art as Instigation: Owning Your Work in Underground Music
13:24 Confrontational Performance Art: Politics, Anger, and the Stage
20:40 Mental Health, Trauma, and Survival as a Creative
31:05 Being a Woman in Radical and Experimental Music Spaces
47:08 Genre Is Death is Launched: Supporting New Bands and the Future of No Wave Spirit
53:13 Performance video of Genre is Death’s new song Attractive People
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
💎Inventing a Genre, Defying Rules: Lydia discusses the birth of “no wave,” her resistance to artifice, why her work is “no everything,” and the difference between no wave’s personal/creative revolt versus punk’s political edge.
💎Confrontation as Art: Lydia self-identifies as a “cuntfrontationalist”—always willing to push boundaries and provoke thought. The episode gets candid about being a woman in a hyper-male art world, using language as a weapon, and surviving decades in radical art.
💎Launching Genre is Death: Lydia introduces Taylor and Ty from Genre is Death, a rising New York duo merging heavy fuzz bass and DIY performance art. Learn how they met Lydia, relocated from Georgia, and found their creative family in NYC’s underground.
RESOURCE LINKS:
Lydia Lunch links:
https://www.instagram.com/lydia.lunch.official/
https://www.facebook.com/LydiaLunch/
https://www.youtube.com/c/lydialunchofficial
https://lydialunch.bandcamp.com
Genre is Death Links:
https://www.instagram.com/genreisdeath/
https://genreisdeath.bandcamp.com
BIOGRAPHIES:
Donita Sparks Best known as the co-founder, guitarist, and vocalist of the pioneering punk band L7, Donita Sparks is a cultural force whose influence spans decades. Her creativity, artistry, and humor have made her an iconic figure in music. In 2026, Sparks joins LaunchLeft as a guest host, bringing her insight and generous spirit to conversations with independent and emerging artists.
Genre is Death In 2024, GID was crowned the 3rd hardest working band in NYC by Oh My Rockness. In March 2025, the duo played the New Colossus Festival. Their debut LP 'Talk' was released November 1st, with a limited run of cassettes released by Insecurity Hits. The pair have opened up for legendary acts Gogol Bordello, Lydia Lunch, Cherubs, Bush Tetras, and will be opening for Jon Spencer February 1 in Philadelphia. Their upcoming record was recorded with celebrated sound engineer Martin Bisi & will be out this year on IN THE RED Records.
Lydia Lunch is passionate, confrontational and bold. Whether attacking the patriarchy and their pornographic war mongering, turning the sexual into the political or whispering a love song to the broken hearted, her fierce energy and rapid fire delivery lend testament to her warrior nature.
Queen of No Wave, muse of The Cinema of Transgression, writer, musician, poet, spoken word artist and photographer, she has released too many musical projects to tally, has been on tour for decades, working with such luminaries as Rowland S Howard, Thurston Moore, Omar Rodriguez Lopez, Karen Finley, Jerry Stahl, The Last Poets, and Hubert Selby JR.
She has published dozens of articles, half a dozen books translated into 9 languages, appeared in numerous documentaries, conducted workshops, taught at Universities including The San Francisco Art Institute and simply refuses to just shut up.
Genre Is Death is an uncompromising noise duo made up of Ty V (guitar, vox) and Tayler Lee (bass, vox). Their sound is abrasive yet melodic, using heavy distortion, dissonant riffs, and reverberating vocals to create a wave of boldly hypnotic noise. The duo have been compared to the likes of Sonic Youth and Teenage Jesus and the Jerks, yet have managed to create a sound that is distinctly their own, avoiding mimicking the zeitgeist of decades before. Beyond the integrity of their music, Tayler’s intimidating glare, or Ty’s staggering gait, the duo share something truly inimitable— the overwhelming feeling that their music is a byproduct of the high esteem they hold of each other.
RAIN PHOENIX launches Evelyn Frances
It’s time to turn the tables in this special episode of LaunchLeft. Rain Phoenix passes hosting duties over to punk icon Donita Sparks of L7. Donita interviews Rain about the origins of LaunchLeft, her lifelong …
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It’s time to turn the tables in this special episode of LaunchLeft. Rain Phoenix passes hosting duties over to punk icon Donita Sparks of L7. Donita interviews Rain about the origins of LaunchLeft, her lifelong journey in music and artistry, collaborating with her brother River Phoenix, navigating grief, and the evolution of her creative process. Rain also shares updates on her current projects, including Escape Artist Lovers and the inspiration behind her next solo record.
Together, Rain and Donita explore artistic identity, spiritual growth, joyful collaboration, and the power of feeling ‘seen' in the artistic community. Then, Rain launches Evelyn Frances, who shares her experimental approach to music, blending classical, jazz, and electronic soundscapes to explore climate change, human connection, and personal transformation.
This episode is perfect for musicians, music lovers, independent artists, and fans of LaunchLeft, offering insight into how collaboration, grief, and purpose-driven art can shape careers and creative paths.
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN THIS EPISODE
✅ Rain’s goal for creating LaunchLeft to uplift independent artists and creatives
IN THIS EPISODE
✅ How music shaped Rain’s life from childhood to her current projects
✅ The evolution of Escape Artist Lovers and Rain’s creative partnership with Kirk Hellie
✅ Rain’s mission-oriented solo record and her work as a death doula
✅ Evelyn Frances’ experimental music process and the themes of her albums Seed and Human Patience
✅ How collaboration, grief, and personal growth influence creative partnerships00:00 Introduction: Meet Donita Sparks
KEY TAKEAWAYS
03:42 How Rain stays grounded while navigating the pressures of the music industry
07:15 Early experiences that shaped Rain’s artistic identity and mission
12:08 Rain’s approach to vulnerability and honesty in her creative work
16:54 Overcoming obstacles on her artistic path and lessons learned
21:30 Maintaining community and connection while uplifting emerging artists
26:02 The role of creative partnership in Rain’s journey with Escape Artist Lovers
31:40 Balancing artistic expression with the realities of the music business
36:12 Advice for artists struggling with self-doubt
40:55 Key takeaways from Rain’s mission-driven work and what she hopes listeners carry forward💎 Visibility from a respected artist can transform the career of an emerging musician
RESOURCE LINKS
💎 Creativity evolves through grief, growth, and reinvention
💎 Music becomes a refuge, a truth-teller, and a way back to oneself
💎 Purpose-driven art brings comfort at life’s most vulnerable moments
💎 Experimental and avant-garde music blends genres to challenge perception and inspire reflectionLaunchLeft Podcast Smart Link: https://www.launchleft.com
Rain Phoenix
Website: https://www.rainjphoenix.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rainjphoenix/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rainjphoenix333/Donita Sparks
Website: https://www.donitasparks.com
L7 Official: https://www.l7theband.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/donitasparks
Spotify Artist Page (L7): https://open.spotify.com/artist/0vYzyVYjv80FVRbH0qD5GGEvelyn Frances
BIOGRAPHIES
Website: https://www.evelynfrancesmusic.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/evelynfrancesmusic/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/evelynfrancesmusic/Rain Phoenix: Musician, activist, and creator of LaunchLeft, Rain has spent her life in music and artistic projects, from performing with her brother River in Aleka’s Attic to leading projects including Paper Cranes, Venus and the Moon, and Escape Artist Lovers. Her work blends artistic expression with spiritual intention, uplifting emerging independent artists while exploring vulnerability, joy, and truth. Rain’s forthcoming solo album Lullaby (BYE) expands her mission to bring comfort through music at pivotal life moments.
Donita Sparks: Best known as the co-founder, guitarist, and vocalist of the pioneering punk band L7, Donita Sparks is a cultural force whose influence spans decades. Her creativity, artistry, and humor have made her an iconic figure in music. In 2026, Sparks joins LaunchLeft as a guest host, bringing her insight and generous spirit to conversations with independent and emerging artists.
Evelyn Frances is an experimental, avant-garde musician and songwriter from Upstate New York, now based in Seattle. Her work blends classical flute and jazz training with electronic soundscapes to explore climate change, humanity’s relationship with nature, and personal struggles with mental health. Her first album, Seed, was recorded at Electric Lady Studios while she interned there and met producer Phil Joly. Her second album, Human Patience, was created over five years with Matthew Politoski (producer/mixing engineer), Phil Joly (producer/mixing engineer), Tristan Allen (producer), and John Thayer (mastering engineer).RAIN PHOENIX launches Team LaunchLeft
In this inspiring episode of LaunchLeft, host Rain Phoenix chats with Lorraine Petel, Geoff Ryan, Jennifer Tefft, and Rich Tupica, aka the team behind LaunchLeft! Take a dive deep into the creative process …
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In this inspiring episode of LaunchLeft, host Rain Phoenix chats with Lorraine Petel, Geoff Ryan, Jennifer Tefft, and Rich Tupica, aka the team behind LaunchLeft! Take a dive deep into the creative process, independent music, film, and the challenges facing artists today. From Geoff Ryan’s journey in narrative filmmaking and experimental shorts to Lorraine Petel’s rise in radio and underground music curation, the conversation covers the intersections of creativity, community, and the evolving digital landscape. Jennifer Tefft shares her insights on live music venues and fostering community engagement, while Rich Tupica reflects on finding audiences and promoting indie artists in a saturated music world. The episode also explores artist sustainability in the age of streaming, social media’s influence on creative discovery, and the importance of physical venues for cultivating artistic communities. Whether you’re an independent musician, filmmaker, or visual artist, this episode offers valuable perspectives on building a career in the arts, navigating industry challenges, and celebrating radical creativity.
What You’ll Learn This Episode:
✅Meet the creatives who make LaunchLeft happen.
✅How to sustain and promote creative projects in today’s digital and streaming-focused environment.
✅The role of live venues and community spaces in developing artistic careers and fostering audience connections.
✅Strategies for independent artists to navigate the challenges of modern media, from social media algorithms to audience engagement.
IN THIS EPISODE:
00:00 Introduction to LaunchLeft and supporting underground music, independent artists, and creative communities
06:42 Geoff’s experience in filmmaking, experimental shorts, and indie film production, including challenges in the industry and returning to music video projects
11:05 Lorraine Petel shares how she fell into radio, her career at NTS London, underground music curation, and artist promotion
16:30 Jennifer Tefft on the importance of live music venues, audience engagement, and community-building, comparing in-person experiences to social media discovery for artists
20:31 Geoff Ryan’s experiences filming under challenging conditions, music video production, and creative collaboration
24:52 Lorraine Petel discusses the growth of her show at NTS and supporting underrepresented musicians, promoting indie artists, and curating unique music
28:26 Artist income, streaming challenges, indie music promotion, and sustaining creative careers in a digital-first world
35:00 Rich Tupica on connecting with fans, online communities, promoting music, and supporting artistic growth, highlighting strategies for success in the modern music and art landscape
44:00 Local music venues & community spaces showcase the importance of live performance spaces, artist development, indie music venues, and community engagement
52:00 The team reflects on the year, expresses gratitude to the LaunchLeft community, creative collaborators, and indie artists, and encourages listeners to support music, art, and independent filmmaking
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
💎Independent artists face challenges in income, audience reach, and digital saturation, but community support and live venues can bridge the gap
💎Experimental projects and creative exploration are essential for artistic growth, even outside of mainstream success
💎Platforms like NTS London, Bandcamp, and LaunchLeft empower underground and independent artists, providing visibility and connection with audiences
💎Building a local and online community is critical for sustaining artistic careers, from small venues to curated online spaces
💎Supporting artists directly through merch, ticketed events, and Bandcamp can have a tangible impact on their ability to create
RESOURCE LINKS:
BEN GIBBARD launches Casey Dienel
In this episode, Rain Phoenix chats with Ben Gibbard of Death Cab For Cutie to explore his journey in indie music, songwriting, and touring. From the early days of Death Cab For Cutie, to forming The Postal …
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In this episode, Rain Phoenix chats with Ben Gibbard of Death Cab For Cutie to explore his journey in indie music, songwriting, and touring. From the early days of Death Cab For Cutie, to forming The Postal Service, to navigating the music industry, Ben shares insights on creativity, collaboration, and the evolution of alternative rock. Later, Ben launches Casey Dienel, and they dive into her approach to music, artistry, and the challenges new artists face in today’s industry. Casey also shares details about her upcoming album "My Heart as an Outlaw" and her return to live performance after a decade. This episode is packed with indie music insights, songwriting tips, and behind-the-scenes stories from touring life. Don’t miss this candid conversation that celebrates music, creativity, and emerging talent.
What You Will Learn in This Episode:
✅ How Ben Gibbard came to music Death Cab For Cutie & the Postal Service
✅ Behind-the-scenes of touring, recording, and navigating the music industry
✅ Casey Dienel’s unique approach to songwriting and creativity
✅ Strategies for new artists breaking into alternative rock and indie music
Subscribe to LaunchLeft for more indie music stories. Follow us on socials for updates and bonus content.
IN THIS EPISODE:
00:00 Intro: Ben Gibbard joins LaunchLeft Podcast
05:38 Ben reflects on music industry changes
11:32 Ben's songwriting process and inspiration
16:41 Ben's favorite aspect of making music
21:31 Ben's passion for ultramarathon running
26:27 Ben launches Casey Dienel
32:32 Discussing studio recording experiences and preparation
39:12 How Ben and Casey first met
44:15 Casey talks about her new album "My Heart as an Outlaw"
47:58 Song: "17" by Casey Dienel
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
💎Ben Gibbard's career spans 27 years, marked by unexpected success and a gradual acceptance of music as a viable career path
💎The music industry has shifted dramatically, with artists facing new economic challenges due to the loss of album sales as a primary revenue stream
💎Ben's songwriting process is deeply personal, focusing on prolific writing rather than trying to predict which songs will resonate with audiences
💎Community and long-term relationships play a crucial role in Ben's life and artistic accountability
💎Casey Dienel's new album "My Heart as an Outlaw" marks her return to music after an eight-year hiatus, showcasing her evolution as an artist
RESOURCE LINKS:
BEN GIBBARD LINKS:
https://www.deathcabforcutie.com/
https://www.instagram.com/deathcabforcutie/
https://www.instagram.com/gibbstack/
https://www.facebook.com/deathcabforcutie
https://www.facebook.com/bengibbard
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOtn115fCfFKIxG7_Quv9ZA
CASEY DIENEL LINKS:
https://www.whoiscaseydienel.com/
https://www.instagram.com/casey_dienel/
https://www.tiktok.com/@casey.dienel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp_WKK5gnDQH53qkRxBDeOw
https://www.facebook.com/CaseyDienelOfficial
BIOGRAPHIES:
Benjamin Gibbard is a multi-platinum, Grammy-nominated singer, songwriter and guitarist. He is the lead vocalist, guitarist, and primary songwriter of Death Cab for Cutie, formed in 1997. The band has since recorded ten studio albums, including, most recently, the critically acclaimed Asphalt Meadows (2022). Gibbard is also one half of the electronic duo The Postal Service, whose sole album, Give Up (2003), is certified platinum and the second best-selling title in the 37 year history of Sub Pop Records.
Gibbard released his debut solo album Former Lives in 2012. In 2009, in collaboration with Jay Farrar (Uncle Tupelo, Son Volt), he released the album One Fast Move or I'm Gone (2009), which also served as the soundtrack to the eponymous Jack Kerouac documentary. He has scored two films: Lynn Shelton’s Laggies (2014) and, along with musician and producer Steve Fisk, the Kurt Cobain documentary About a Son (2006). Additionally, he wrote and recorded two original songs featured in the 2011 remake of the classic film Arthur. Gibbard is an avid ultra-marathon runner and a longtime resident of Seattle, WA.
Casey Dienel is an American singer-songwriter and musician. Dienel, who has also performed and recorded as White Hinterland, plays piano, keyboards and ukulele.
My Heart Is An Outlaw is Casey Dienel’s seventh album and first studio release. It arrives after eight years away, the result of a renewed trust in collaboration as a radical act of surrender. The album’s 11 tracks—each a film and a melodic treasure trove—offer a reckoning with freedom, identity, and the conflicting desire for both solitude and intimacy. Recorded at Altamira Sound in Los Angeles, Figure 8 Recording in New York, and Chamber of Commerce in Vermont, the record zooms from micro to macro, intimate breath to mic drop.
THE B-52'S FRED SCHNEIDER launches Dagger Polyester
In this episode of LaunchLeft, host Rain Phoenix welcomes Fred Schneider of The B-52’s as he launches Dagger Polyester. Fred takes us back to the Athens, Georgia music scene where The B-52’s began, sharing …
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In this episode of LaunchLeft, host Rain Phoenix welcomes Fred Schneider of The B-52’s as he launches Dagger Polyester.
Fred takes us back to the Athens, Georgia music scene where The B-52’s began, sharing stories of DIY shows, thrifting, and how their left-of-center style changed pop culture. He also dives into side projects including Halloween anthems, poetry reissues, and unexpected collaborations.
Later, Dagger Polyester joins the conversation to talk about punk influences, resisting background-noise music, and how individuality fuels their artistry. Together, they explore creativity, collaboration, and the future of music in an AI-driven world.
What You Will Learn in This Episode:
✅ How The B-52’s began in Athens, Georgia and built their unique sound✅ Why thrifting, vintage fashion, and DIY culture shaped The B-52’s identity
✅ Fred Schneider’s side projects and creative collaborations outside of the B-52’s
✅ Dagger Polyester’s insights on punk, pop culture, and music that resists algorithms
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TIMESTAMPS:
- 00:00 Introduction from Rain Phoenix
- 04:15 Fred Schneider shares early memories of Athens, Georgia
- 08:32 The B-52’s first gigs and their DIY approach to music and style
- 12:40 Thrifting, vintage fashion, and creating an outsider aesthetic
- 17:55 Tour memories: runaway buses, donuts, and chaos on the road
- 23:52 Discussing 80s music and artistic influences
- 28:46 Keeping the band together: equal splits and shared decisions
- 34:05 Dagger Polyester is launched
- 38:27 Punk influences, Athens’ creative scene, and resisting algorithm-driven music
- 44:50 The future of music, AI, and why individuality still matters
- 49:20 Closing thoughts, resources, and where to find Fred and Dagger’s work
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
- Embracing individuality creates timeless music that stands apart.
- Sharing credit and resources can strengthen a band’s longevity.
- Creativity thrives when artists explore side projects and collaborations.
- Punk and outsider art continue to challenge the mainstream and inspire new generations.
ABOUT THE GUEST:
Fred Schneider is an American singer, songwriter, and musician, best known as the frontman of the new wave band The B-52s. With his distinctive vocal style and quirky lyrics, Schneider has been a pivotal figure in the alternative music scene since the late 1970s. The B-52s, known for hits like "Love Shack" and "Rock Lobster," have left an indelible mark on pop culture and continue to influence musicians today.
Dagger Polyester is an emerging musician known for blending elements of punk, new wave, and experimental rock. With a growing following in the underground music scene, Dagger's unique sound and approach to songwriting are garnering attention from both fans and industry veterans alike.
RESOURCES:
GUEST RESOURCES:
Fred Schneider
https://www.instagram.com/funfred1/
https://www.instagram.com/theb52sband/
https://www.facebook.com/OfficialFredSchneider/
https://www.facebook.com/theb52s/
Dagger Polyester
https://www.instagram.com/daggerpolyester/
https://www.youtube.com/channel
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LILI HAYDN & PAUL CANTELON launch Itai Disraeli
In this episode of LaunchLeft, Rain Phoenix hosts a profound and intimate conversation that explores the transformative potential of art and the enduring bonds between artists with long time friends and …
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In this episode of LaunchLeft, Rain Phoenix hosts a profound and intimate conversation that explores the transformative potential of art and the enduring bonds between artists with long time friends and musicians Paul Cantelon and Lili Haydn.
Paul and Lili open up about the deeply personal origins of their heartfelt album "Lullabies for the Brokenhearted", created in the wake of Paul's wife Angela McCluskey's passing. They share deeply personal stories about their musical journeys and the inspirations behind the album and discuss the importance of vulnerability in their creative process and how the project has been healing for them both.
Then, they launch Itai Disraeli who discusses his groundbreaking solo bass project “He is Free Now” and the spiritual nature of his music. Tune in for a preview of tracks from both "Lullabies for the Brokenhearted" and an excerpt of Itai's ”Continuation Day”, offering listeners a glimpse into these profound musical journeys.
IN THIS EPISODE:
- (00:00) Intro: Meet Paul Cantelon and Lili Haydn
- (05:54) The genesis of "Lullabies for the Brokenhearted," dedicated to Paul's late wife Angela McCluskey and Lili's mother Lotus
- (10:39) Paul and Lili's experiences with loss and the transformative power of music and community
- (22:31) Paul shares his childhood encounter with music in Zurich
- (27:40) Lili's musical upbringing and her mother, Lotus's influence
- (35:32) Itai Disraeli is launched
- (38:05) Itai discusses his musical philosophy and upcoming record “He is Free Now”
- (44:12) The Entwined from "Lullabies for the Brokenhearted"
- (49:26) Continuation Day from “He is Free Now”
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
- Music of all genres serves as a powerful tool for healing and processing grief. The creation of "Lullabies for the Brokenhearted" was not just about grieving, but about expanding consciousness and creating connection between this realm and the next. The spiritual dimension of music connects us to life, death, and the beyond.
- True artistry comes from getting out of your own way and letting the music’s spirit flow through you. The most powerful music emerges when you're completely vulnerable and honest, capturing raw moments of catharsis rather than trying to perform or impress.
- Sound carries immense spiritual power. While words shouted on barricades may be silenced, the depth and resonance of music cannot be shot down or destroyed. By connecting through our art, we become points of light guiding each other home through the darkness.
RESOURCE LINKS:
LILI HAYDN LINKS
https://www.instagram.com/lilihaydn/
PAUL CANTELON LINKS
https://www.instagram.com/paulcantelon/
Lullabies For the Brokenhearted – a new album by Lili Haydn & Paul Cantelon
You Could Start A Fight In An Empty House Podcast
ITAI DISRAELI LINKS
https://www.instagram.com/itai_disraeli/
https://www.instagram.com/maetarmusic/
BIOGRAPHIES:
Violinist-composer Lili Haydn and pianist-composer Paul Cantelon have created Lullabies for the Brokenhearted—a poignant and transcendent album shaped by personal loss and the redemptive power of music. After the sudden passing of Cantelon’s wife, singer Angela McCluskey, grief left him unable to play. Haydn, a lifelong friend and collaborator, invited him into her home and gently rekindled his creative spirit. The result is 8 deeply felt compositions, recorded in just 10 days, with influences ranging from Chopin to Arvo Part. The lead single, “The Edgeless Safety of the Sea,” was released June 27, offering a first glimpse of the album’s cinematic, emotionally resonant sound.
Among the album’s most striking moments are “The Last Serenade,” a melody Haydn received at her mother’s deathbed and has since played for others in their final moments, and “Point No Point,” a piece central to Cantelon’s early work and later featured in The Diving Bell and the Butterfly. While rooted in sorrow, the music is full of light, hope, and reverence. Haydn, a Grammy winner and Emmy-nominated composer (Netflix #1 hit Ginny & Georgia), and Cantelon, a Juilliard-trained artist with acclaimed film scores, bring decades of experience to this collaboration—a musical offering that gently holds space for grief, memory, and healing.
Itai Disraeli is a Grammy-winning bassist, composer, producer, and spiritual teacher whose music blends groove, psychedelia, and deep emotional truth. Best known for his work with Opium Moon and Maetar, Itai now turns his focus toward a revolutionary solo bass project that is melodic, hypnotic, and entirely human.
He is the founder of the music department at the renowned Wildwood School in L.A. and has mentored Grammy winning artists including Thundercat, Gracie Abrams, and Emmy winning composer Zach Robinson. As a composer for film and TV, he has contributed additional music to the Netflix hit Ginny & Georgia, as well as numerous films and documentaries.
As a student of the revered Zen master Thich Nhat Hanh, Itai believes music is a blueprint for peace. His sound is both a spiritual practice and a funky, soul-stirring ride.
Now, after decades of shaping sound in collaborative spaces, Itai steps forward with a groundbreaking solo bass project: He is Free Now is an album that is hypnotic, melodic, psychedelic, layered, groovy, and unlike anything you’ve heard before. This is bass as lead voice, as meditation, as movement. It’s not a solo record. It’s a soul record.
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TUNE-YARDS launches Esotérica Tropical
Join the vibrant conversation between Rain Phoenix and Merrill Garbus of Tune-Yards as they dive into Merrill’s musical journey and creative process. Merrill reflects on her experience with 4AD Records …
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Join the vibrant conversation between Rain Phoenix and Merrill Garbus of Tune-Yards as they dive into Merrill’s musical journey and creative process. Merrill reflects on her experience with 4AD Records, maintaining authenticity in an ever changing industry, and the delicate balance between artistic expression and social responsibility.
Then Merrill launches MaJo, aka, Esotérica Tropical. MaJo shares her unique approach to music-making, rooted in healing and connection with the natural world. Together, they highlight the power of music as a tool for personal growth and social change, while also exploring the artists' collaborative projects. The conversation wraps up with Esotérica Tropical’s song "Realismo Magico" featuring Merrill and MaJo’s stunning harmonies.
IN THIS EPISODE:
- (00:00) Intro: Rain Phoenix welcomes Merrill Garbus
- (05:03) Merrill discusses Tune-Yards' journey and 4AD Records
- (10:06) Challenges of navigating the music industry
- (15:35) The changing landscape of music distribution
- (20:32) Balancing artistry and social responsibility
- (25:52) The importance of authenticity and joy in music
- (31:41) Introducing Esotérica Tropical (Majo)
- (36:15) Merrill and Majo discuss their connection
- (40:24) Early musical experiences and influences
- (42:30) Listen to “Realismo Magico” by Esotérica Tropical feat. Merrill Garbus
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
- Music is freedom. It's a way to connect, to heal, and to express what can't be said in words alone.
- Song writing and production are so unique to each artist. Artist-label relationships can and should nurture creativity when built on mutual trust and support.
- Creating joy and fostering connection are crucial elements in music and art of all forms.
- Creating music can serve as a powerful tool for personal healing and growth and expression. Early musical experiences can shape an artist's approach to creativity and their relationship with music and thus carry on the creation of music.
RESOURCE LINKS:
Tune-Yards Links:
https://www.instagram.com/tuneyards/
https://www.facebook.com/tuneyards/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU4wLkBnwIM
https://tune-yards.bandcamp.com/
TUNE-YARDS BIO:
Formed by Merrill Garbus in 2006, Tune-Yards has become a name synonymous with creativity and forward motion. Known for explosive performances, surprising song structures, and danceable rhythms, their music also highlights connections between song and social consciousness. The New York Times praised their debut album, BiRd-BrAiNs, as “a confident do-it-yourselfer’s opening salvo,” and relentless touring established Garbus as a commanding live performer.
Garbus stepped into the producer role with 2011’s w h o k i l l, a bold and sonically inventive album that earned critical acclaim, including the #1 spot on The Village Voice’s Pazz and Jop poll. By 2021’s sketchy., Garbus and bassist Nate Brenner had solidified their partnership, creating a fully collaborative work. The duo has announced their sixth studio record, Better Dreaming, to be released on May 16, 2025 on 4AD.
Tune-Yards also excels in scoring, contributing to Boots Riley’s Sorry to Bother You, I’m A Virgo, and the forthcoming I Love Boosters. Their artistry continues to expand across music, film, and television.
Esotérica Tropical:
https://www.esotericatropical.com/
https://www.instagram.com/esotericatropical/
https://www.facebook.com/esotericatropical
https://soundcloud.com/esotericatropical
https://esotericatropical.bandcamp.com/
Esotérica Tropical BIO:
Esotérica Tropical is a queer Boricua bruja who transcends musical boundaries with her commanding voice, intuitive folk harp, and a fusion of Afro-Puerto Rican Bomba rhythms and electronic innovation. Her work boldly challenges colonial mentality, advocating for sovereignty and surrealism. A chance encounter with a Celtic harp on a Puerto Rican beach in 2009 transformed her from an acupuncturist into a genre-defying musical magician. Drawing on 20 years as a healer, Esotérica’s ritualistic performances have captivated audiences at major venues and festivals worldwide including, Festival Color Caribe (PR), Oakland Museum of California, Teatro Municipal de Cusco (Perú), and Teatro el Supremo (CDMX).
In 2022, she featured on Argentinian producer Chancha Via Circuito’s album La Estrella. Her self-titled debut album was named the Best Bay Area Music in 2024 by KQED.
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JODY STEPHENS OF BIG STAR launches Luther Russell
Ever wonder what it's like to be part of rock history? Our latest LaunchLeft episode pulls back the curtain on Big Star's legacy. Rain Phoenix hosts an illuminating conversation with Jody Stephens, drummer of …
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Ever wonder what it's like to be part of rock history? Our latest LaunchLeft episode pulls back the curtain on Big Star's legacy.
Rain Phoenix hosts an illuminating conversation with Jody Stephens, drummer of the legendary band Big Star. The discussion delves into Jody's early musical influences in Memphis, his experiences with Big Star, and the band's enduring legacy. Jody shares insights about recording at Ardent Studios and working with John Fry, offering a glimpse into the creation of Big Star's iconic sound.
Jody then launches Luther Russell. They discuss their collaboration in their band Those Pretty Wrongs, exploring their songwriting process and creative dynamic. Luther provides additional perspective on their partnership and his own musical journey. The episode also touches on Jody's recent induction into the Grammy Hall of Fame and Luther's latest solo album. Throughout, the conversation highlights the importance of maintaining a joyful, pressure-free approach to creativity in music.
IN THIS EPISODE:
(00:00) Introducing Jody Stevens of Big Star
(05:21) Jody’s early musical influences in Memphis
(09:06) Rain on discovering Big Star in Costa Rica
(15:22) John Fry's influence on Big Star's iconic sound
(24:17) Working at Ardent Studios after Big Star
(31:49) Changes in the music industry over time
(47:50) Luther Russell is launched
(49:17) Collaborative songwriting process for the band
(56:32) Recording at Abbey Road with John Leckie
(59:52) Luther Russell's new solo album Happiness for Beginners
(1:02:39) Upcoming shows and future recording plans
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
Music creation should be a joyful, pressure-free process. By focusing on having fun and avoiding self-imposed stress, artists can collaborate effectively long-distance and produce multiple albums together. This approach has allowed creativity to flow naturally.
The music industry has changed dramatically, but there are still "gatekeepers" in new forms. While technology has democratized distribution, the sheer volume of content makes it challenging to break through. Having a passionate fanbase who will share your music remains crucial.
Revisiting and performing older material can lead to unexpected new creative partnerships. What started as playing some shows together to support a documentary evolved into a fruitful songwriting collaboration and multiple albums. Being open to these opportunities can take your career in exciting new directions.
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JODY STEPHENS BIO:
Jody Stephens (born October 4, 1952, in Memphis, Tennessee) is an American drummer best known as a founding member of the influential power pop band Big Star. Formed in 1971, Big Star’s original lineup included Alex Chilton, Chris Bell, Andy Hummel, and Stephens. The band released three albums—#1 Record (1972), Radio City (1974), and Third/Sister Lovers (recorded in 1974, released in 1978)—which, despite initial commercial struggles, later garnered critical acclaim and influenced numerous artists .
In 1993, he participated in a reformation of the band alongside Chilton and members of The Posies, resulting in the 2005 album In Space.
Beyond Big Star, Stephens has collaborated with various groups. He joined the alt-country supergroup Golden Smog (with Jeff Tweedy of Wilco), contributing to albums like Weird Tales (1998) and Another Fine Day (2006) . In 2015, he formed Those Pretty Wrongs with Luther Russell, releasing their self-titled debut in 2016, followed by Zed for Zulu (2019) and Holiday Camp (2023) .
Stephens has also been a longtime fixture at Ardent Studios in Memphis, where Big Star recorded their albums. He joined the Ardent staff in 1987 and has served as Vice President of Production am— and other titles, working under founder John Fry (who died in 2014 at age 69). Under his tenure, Ardent has continued to be a vital recording venue for artists across genres.
Today, Jody Stephens remains active in music, performing, recording, and contributing to the legacy of Big Star and Ardent Studios (he still works at Ardent). He is the last surviving member of Big Star’s original lineup, but still plays the music with the Big Star Quartet at shows across the world.
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KRISTIN HERSH of THROWING MUSES launches Wallace False
Kristin Hersh of THROWING MUSES joins Rain Phoenix on LaunchLeft for a raw, unfiltered conversation about artistic integrity and the music industry's dark underbelly. Kristin reflects on her journey in the …
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Kristin Hersh of THROWING MUSES joins Rain Phoenix on LaunchLeft for a raw, unfiltered conversation about artistic integrity and the music industry's dark underbelly. Kristin reflects on her journey in the music industry, discussing her experiences with major labels and her commitment to making music that feels true to her. She shares insights into her creative process, including her approach to songwriting and production. The conversation touches on themes of authenticity, the spiritual aspects of music, and the challenges of maintaining artistic vision in a commercial industry. Kristin Hersh then launches Wallace False, who offers his unique perspective on creating original music and art. The episode provides a fascinating look into two generations of musicians who prioritize creative expression over commercial success, offering listeners a glimpse into the world of independent and experimental music-making.
IN THIS EPISODE:
- (00:00) Intro: Kristin Hersh joins LaunchLeft podcast
- (05:58) The music industry's focus on image over art
- (13:18) Spirituality and channeling in music creation
- (19:39) Exploring unconventional sounds and instruments
- (25:49) Leaving major labels to pursue artistic vision
- (32:28) Kristin on producing her own music and incorporating nature sounds
- (38:32) Streaming's impact on musical exploration
- (48:50) Wallace False is launched
- (53:54) Creating original sounds from basic waveforms
- (59:18) Finding inspiration beyond audience expectations
- (60:00) Wallace False's new industrial soundscape album: Signal
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
- Kristin has always prioritized authenticity in her music, choosing to leave major labels to maintain artistic integrity and her creative process. She believes that music is about capturing a visceral truth, not conforming to industry standards of prettiness or marketability. It's about nurturing the energetic essence of a song and letting it resonate with listeners who appreciate its rawness.
- Kristin strives for originality and control through her creative process. By manipulating raw sounds to craft unique compositions and avoiding conventional influences, she aims to create something entirely its own. It's important not to become complacent in any artistic lane, but to explore and experiment, allowing inspiration to guide the way.
- Music has a spiritual component that goes beyond just sound. It's about being a vessel for inspiration, channeling something greater than oneself. Kristin and Wyatt create music that resonates with truth, rejecting superficial standards and focusing on the deeper connection it can foster with those who truly listen.
RESOURCE LINKS:
KRISTIN HERSH LINKS:
WALLACE FALSE LINKS:
https://dondekko.bandcamp.com/album/signal
https://medium.com/@wyatt.true.oconnell/the-fortune-letters-bc68e47777ea
BIOGRAPHIES:
KRISTIN HERSH:
"One of indie rock's most fascinating figures" - The Guardian
The inimitable Kristin Hersh is a musician's musician, a songwriter's songwriter, and an innovator's innovator. The Queen of Grunge's first band, Throwing Muses, began recording and playing out when they were just 14 years old and they're still going. 2020's critically acclaimed Sun Racket was hailed as a "perfect record."
Hersh's refusal to participate in a corporate industry saw her leave a Warner Brothers recording contract at the top of her success in order to become listener-supported. "Music is humanist and so are we," as she puts it. Wildly prolific, she has released more than 20 albums - solo, with Throwing Muses, and her noise rock band 50 Foot Wave ("A group that runs laps around most rock bands" said Pitchfork, on 2022's Black Pearl).
She's also a celebrated author: Rolling Stone named her first book, Rat Girl (Penguin) one of the ten best rock memoirs of all time. NPR said of her second book, Don't Suck, Don't Die, "Not only one of the best books of the year, but one of the most beautiful rock memoirs ever written." Her third book, the game-changing Seeing Sideways, pushes the envelope of creative non-fiction while telling the story of raising her 4 sons on a tour bus.
Hersh lives in New Orleans and New England.
WALLACE FALSE:
Wyatt True, sometimes known as Wallace False, is a writer, animator, and musician. True was born in Rhode Island and raised just about everywhere else. He now resides in the Deep South. The common thread in True's work is a grotesque dismantling of any and all familiar structures. Guitars twang sour, sorrowful sonatas, protagonists are lost amongst melting walls and rooms that time forgot.
He is mostly docile and will only bite if cornered.
LaunchLeft, Music, Live Music, Music Inspiration, Musician Stories, Kristin Hersh, THROWING MUSES, Wallace False, music industry critique, artistic integrity, independent music, creative process, songwriting, music production, alternative rock, female musicians, Warner Brothers, music marketing, artistic authenticity, music streaming, musical literacy, studio recording techniques, sound experimentation, music collaboration, music touring, European music scene, music inspiration, music and spirituality, artistic personality, experimental music, DIY music production, music ownership
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CLAP YOUR HANDS SAY YEAH launch Knifeplay
Indie rock pioneers Clap Your Hands Say Yeah are celebrating 20 years with a special reissue. But what's the real story behind their unconventional rise to fame? In this episode of LaunchLeft, host Rain Phoenix …
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Indie rock pioneers Clap Your Hands Say Yeah are celebrating 20 years with a special reissue. But what's the real story behind their unconventional rise to fame? In this episode of LaunchLeft, host Rain Phoenix and CYHSY frontman Alec Ounsworth, meet at Licorice Pizza in Studio City to unpack the band's journey from DIY darlings to indie rock icons. They touch on CYHSY's decision to remain unsigned. It wasn't just about rebellion, it was a commitment to artistic integrity that shaped their entire career. Ounsworth candidly discusses how his stubborn streak both helped and hindered the band's trajectory. Twenty years on, Alec reflects on how his views on collaboration and the music industry have matured. Alec then launches the up-and-coming Philly band Knifeplay, who'll be supporting CYHSY on tour. The generational exchange offers a fascinating glimpse into how the indie landscape has shifted. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the evolution of indie music and the challenges of maintaining artistic authenticity in a changing industry.
IN THIS EPISODE:
(00:00) Intro: LaunchLeft podcast with Rain Phoenix
(05:03) Early 2000s indie music scene and industry changes
(10:27) Alec's approach to independence and a discussion about self-sabotage
(15:00) CHYSY’s approach to music videos
(20:55) Alec's songwriting process and lyrical influences
(31:40) Knifeplay is launched and TJ joins the conversation
(34:58) TJ's musical influences and background
(37:37) Using social media as musicians in a digital landscape
(43:24) TJ's balanced approach to using social media
(48:40) Authenticity and sustainability in music careers
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
Maintaining artistic integrity can be challenging but is crucial for genuine connection with audiences.
The music industry has seen significant changes, making it harder for new artists to break through. Collaboration can be a way for artists to promote each other and expand their audience.
Social media presents both opportunities and challenges for musicians striving to balance authenticity with promotion.
RESOURCE LINKS:
CYHSY LINKS:
https://www.facebook.com/clapyourhandssayyeah
https://www.instagram.com/clapyourhandssayyeah/
https://www.youtube.com/clapyourhandssayyeah
Knifeplay Links:
http://instagram.com/knifeplay_music/
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Clap Your Hands Say Yeah celebrate the 20th anniversary of their landmark self-titled debut album throughout 2025 with a worldwide tour performing the album in its entirety alongside other surprises, and an exclusive new reissue.
A heady blend of leftfield pop and melodic, exuberant indie rock, Clap Your Hands Say Yeah is unquestionably among the finest and most influential independent releases of the 2000s. The celebration officially gets underway with the premiere of Clap Your Hands Say Yeah’s original 2004 version of the fan favorite, “Heavy Metal”. The newly remixed and mastered track was recently discovered among the original project files and captures what Clap Your Hands Say Yeah founder and frontman Alec Ounsworth calls “a special moment in time – a young group of guys all piling into one hotel room to wake up and go to a real studio (!) to try to come up with something special just for the fun of it.”
In addition to the digital anniversary release featuring the original version of “Heavy Metal,” a special deluxe reissue will arrive on limited edition vinyl LP in early 2025, released on CYHSY’s own label via Secretly Distribution, the defiantly independent home to over two decades of Alec Ounsworth’s music.
Knifeplay is a band that eludes definition, existing somewhere between the nihilistic detachment of shoegaze and the emotional honesty of folk songwriting. Originally a solo bedroom recording project of Tj Strohmer’s, they’ve made a slow and careful shift into a collaborative, production focused, studio recorded band. Through their ever-expanding genre palette, range of fidelities, and long list of collaborators runs a unique current that ties everything together.
Informed by his experiences living in Philadelphia and their contrast with his rural southern Maryland upbringing, Strohmer’s sometimes straightforward, sometimes dreamlike, but always philosophical lyrics feature scenes of darkness from many different aspects of life. He deals with themes of death, drugs, heartbreak, abuse, and self-destruction, all expressed through a delicate vocal style, which, combined with the band’s lush orchestral instrumentation gives a beautiful lightness to the heavy subject matter.
Since their 2017 debut of home-recorded EPs, Knifeplay have earned a dedicated cult following through acclaimed debut album Pearlty (2019) and a lengthy B-Sides Compilation (2020), all either self-released or through small run tape labels. In 2021 they entered the studio with producer Jeff Zeigler, known for his work with Kurt Vile, Nothing, The War on Drugs, and more, first producing the Hurt Someone EP (Born Losers Records) before recording their upcoming sophomore full-length, Animal Drowning, to be released via Topshelf Records on October 19, 2022.
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DON WAS launches Maya Delilah
Today on LaunchLeft, Rain Phoenix hosts an insightful conversation with acclaimed music producer Don Was, who shares his journey through the music industry and his philosophy on creativity. Don reflects on his …
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Today on LaunchLeft, Rain Phoenix hosts an insightful conversation with acclaimed music producer Don Was, who shares his journey through the music industry and his philosophy on creativity. Don reflects on his diverse career, emphasizing the importance of avoiding being pigeonholed and the value of one’s emotional connection in music. Don recounts his experiences working with iconic artists like Bob Dylan, Bonnie Raitt, and the Rolling Stones, highlighting the timeless nature of genuine artistry. The discussion also touches on Don's roots in Detroit's vibrant music scene and his latest project, the Pan Detroit Ensemble, which celebrates the city's rich musical heritage. Later, Don launches Maya Delilah, whose debut album, "The Long Way Round," is set to release with Blue Note Records. Maya shares her journey from social media sensation to recording artist, expressing gratitude for the creative freedom and support she received from the label. The episode offers a compelling look at the intersection of legacy and emerging talent, underscoring the enduring power of authenticity in music.
IN THIS EPISODE:
- (00:16) Don Was's Career and Production Philosophy: Discover Don's approach to music production, emphasizing authenticity and emotional connection
- (25:00) The Influence of Detroit's Music Scene: Learn how Detroit's unique cultural mix shaped Don's musical perspective
- (35:00) Blue Note Records and Artist Development: Explore Blue Note's nurturing approach to artist development
- (45:00) Maya Delilah's Debut Album Creation: Maya shares her transformative recording experience
- (50:10) Collaborative Effort in Artist Development: Don and Maya discuss the supportive environment at Blue Note Records
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
- Authenticity in music production is crucial for creating timeless music that resonates emotionally.
- Detroit's raw, honest sound has significantly influenced Don's production style and creative process.
- Blue Note Records prioritizes nurturing an artist's unique voice over conforming to trends.
- Maya Delilah's debut album “The Long Way Round,” aims to evoke nostalgia and comfort, reflecting her artistic vision.
- Collaboration and creative freedom are vital in developing successful artists.
RESOURCE LINKS:
DON WAS LINKS:
https://www.instagram.com/donwas/
MAYA DELILAH LINKS:
https://www.instagram.com/mayadelilahh/
https://www.facebook.com/mayadelilahh/
https://www.tiktok.com/@mayadelilahh
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHZBLbph9tL9e7LAfZm_pjg
BIOGRAPHIES:
Don Was is one of music’s most significant artists and executives, excelling in multiple roles and serving as one of the industry’s beacons for integrity and forward-thinking.
As an in-demand, highly acclaimed and commercially successful producer since the late 1980s, Was has been honored with Grammy Awards for his production work in each of the past four decades: In 1989 for producing Bonnie Raitt’s breakthrough classic Nick Of Time, in 1994 as Producer Of The Year for his work with artists ranging from The Rolling Stones to Willie Nelson to Roy Orbison, in 2009 for his production work on Ziggy Marley’s Best Musical Album For Children, Family Time, in 2018 for helming The Rolling Stones’ Best Traditional Blues Album. Blue & Lonesome a, and in 2019 for producing Intocable’s Latin Grammy-winning Best Norteño Album, percepción. The artists Was has produced in this decade alone are a testament to his talents as a producer spanning a broad array of music genres: The Rolling Stones’ aforementioned worldwide hit album (Blue & Lonesome) Gregg Allman’s final album (Southern Blood), John Mayer (two of his most recent albums, Born And Raised and Paradise Valley), Aaron Neville (My True Story, co-produced with Keith Richards), French superstar Johnny Hallyday (Rester Vivant) and Neil Diamond’s Melody Road. Albums produced by Was have achieved dozens of multi-platinum, platinum and gold certifications and have sold more than 90 million copies worldwide.
As the President of Blue Note Records since 2011, Was is both the company’s leader and an ambassador for its music, charged with bringing the label’s 21st Century jazz artists and its expanding pallet of contemporary musicians to larger audiences.
Maya Delilah is an English singer-songwriter and guitarist. Maya Delilah has been signed to jazz record label Blue Note Records since 2022.
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DIANE WARREN launches Mergui
For episode 160 of the podcast, join Rain Phoenix at Licorice Pizza as she hosts an engaging conversation with legendary songwriter Diane Warren and rising musician Mergui. This episode offers a deep dive into …
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For episode 160 of the podcast, join Rain Phoenix at Licorice Pizza as she hosts an engaging conversation with legendary songwriter Diane Warren and rising musician Mergui. This episode offers a deep dive into Diane's illustrious career, her creative process, and her collaboration with Mergui on the song "Criminal." The discussion provides unique perspectives on the music industry, including insights from one of modern music’s most celebrated songwriters.
IN THIS EPISODE:
[5:05] Diane Warren's early musical influences
[11:10] Writing I Don’t Want to Miss a Thing and OSCAR nominations
[13:00] Diane launches Mergui
[15:28] Diane's versatility across musical genres
[20:00] Mergui’s insights on sampling Elton John’s song
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
Diane Warren's journey into songwriting began at a young age, sparked by her fascination with record credits. She would study the names of songwriters on albums, dreaming of seeing her own name there one day. This early passion and determination set her on a path to becoming one of the most successful songwriters in the industry.
Despite the challenges faced by women in the music industry, Diane never let her gender define her capabilities. Inspired by trailblazers like Carole King, she pursued her career with confidence, never doubting her potential to succeed as a songwriter.
Collaboration with artists like Mergui showcases Diane and Mergui's ability to adapt and thrive in different musical genres. Diane’s intuitive sense for matching songs with the right artists has led to successful partnerships, allowing her to continue creating timeless music across various styles.
It’s important for songwriters to find the right artist to sing and produce their songs, someone who will honor and preserve the meaning and the music. That’s when the magic happens.
RESOURCE LINKS:
DIANE LINKS:
https://www.instagram.com/dianewarren/
https://www.facebook.com/DianeWarrenMusic
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGZlUzfjZd10wW5yDYUKJ0g
Mergui LINKS:
https://www.tiktok.com/@Mergui
https://www.instagram.com/Mergui
https://www.facebook.com/Merguiofficial/
https://www.youtube.com/@Mergui_
BIOS:
Diane Warren is one of modern music’s most celebrated songwriters. She has penned nine #1 and thirty-three top 10 hits on the Billboard Hot 100 and is tied for having written the most #1 songs as a sole writer in Billboard history. She was inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame in 2001 and received the prestigious Johnny Mercer Award from the organization in June 2024.
She has received 16 Academy Award nominations, is a GRAMMY winner with 15 nominations, an EMMY winner, and is a two-time Golden Globe winner whose songs have been featured in more than 150 films.
In November 2022, Warren became the first songwriter in history to receive an Honorary Oscar, as voted on by the Academy's Board of Governors. She recently wrote the original song "The Fire Inside," performed by Becky G for the film Flamin' Hot, directed by Eva Longoria, which marked her 15th Oscar nomination. She most recently wrote the original song “The Journey” performed by H.E.R. for the feature film The Six Triple Eight directed by Tyler Perry which marked her 16th Oscar nomination.
She is the sole owner of her publishing company Realsongs, the most successful female-owned and operated business in the music industry. Warren is a recipient of a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, a nod to her legendary career, having worked with many of today's most popular artists, including Beyoncé, Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, H.E.R., Snoop Dogg, Paloma Faith, Jon Batiste, Maren Morris, John Legend, Christina Aguilera, Kelly Clarkson, Andra Day, Justin Bieber, Jennifer Hudson and Janelle Monáe, in addition to having written songs for iconic artists such as Whitney Houston, Cher, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, Dolly Parton, Reba McEntire, and many more.
Mergui has made it his mission to push the limits of modern pop music. He’s accomplished some incredible feats such as opening for Bruno Mars and Maroon 5. His talent has been recognized by publications such as Rolling Stone, Billboard, Wonderland Magazine, and Notion. Drawing inspiration from the rich tapestry of early 20th-century Italian opera and the nostalgic allure of ‘70s AM pop, Mergui’s sophomore EP Shadows of Blue was a remarkable fusion of influences. Notable tracks from the EP include the Elton John-approved “Cry,” and “Happy Now?”, which he performed on The Kelly Clarkson Show and NBC’s The TODAY Show, resulting in the track skyrocketing to the Top 10 on the U.S. iTunes Singer/Songwriter charts. Mergui’s music has been featured in top-notch editorial playlists across digital service platforms including Spotify’s New Music Friday (US & Global), Chill Pop, New Pop Picks, and Just Good Music. Mergui’s unguarded sense of vulnerability shines through in his art, landing him a coveted spot on People Magazine’s Emerging Artists of 2024 list. Following a successful tour with Forest Blakk and a collaboration with Sam Feldt in the latter half of 2024, Mergui is ready to take 2025 by storm with the release of his latest EP Nobody Really Knows.
THE DANDY WARHOLS launch Miranda Lee Richards
In this episode of LaunchLeft captured at Licorice Pizza, Rain Phoenix welcomes Courtney Taylor-Taylor of The Dandy Warhols. They delve into The Dandy Warhols' history, touching on the 90s and how the band has …
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In this episode of LaunchLeft captured at Licorice Pizza, Rain Phoenix welcomes Courtney Taylor-Taylor of The Dandy Warhols. They delve into The Dandy Warhols' history, touching on the 90s and how the band has adapted over three decades and the changing landscape of the music industry, from the MTV era to the current digital age. Courtney launches Miranda Lee Richards, who offers insights into her own musical career. The discussion shifts to the creative process, with both Courtney and Miranda sharing their approaches to songwriting. The episode culminates in a special acoustic performance of Kristin Hersh’s iconic song “Your Ghost”, showcasing the raw talent of both artists.
IN THIS EPISODE:
[02:04] The Dandy Warhols' 30-Year Journey: Courtney reflects on the band's longevity and the importance of listening to each member's voice.
[06:11] Songwriting and Creative Process: Discover how music serves as therapy and the balance between creating art and entertainment.
[35:52] Music Industry Transformation: Explore the impact of MTV's decline and the current state of the music industry.
[44:29] Protest Songs and Social Commentary: A discussion on the absence of protest songs and the challenges of writing socially conscious music.
[57:51] Touring and Recording Experiences: Miranda and Courtney share stories from their European tour, highlighting the balance of work and fun.
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
Maintaining a long-running band requires adapting to changing dynamics and respecting each member's creative input
The shift from the MTV era to the current digital landscape has dramatically altered how artists create and distribute music.
Songwriting often involves a balance between conscious effort and subconscious inspiration, with the best lyrics often surprising the writer
Collaborations and live performances continue to be vital aspects of the music industry, offering unique experiences for both artists and audiences
RESOURCE LINKS:
DANDY WARHOLS:
https://www.instagram.com/thedandywarhols
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-HcL5BBMRHXkijhIniuu0Q
MIRANDA LEE RICHARDS:
https://www.mirandaleerichards.com/
https://www.instagram.com/mirandaleerichards/
https://www.facebook.com/mirandaleerichards
https://soundcloud.com/mirandaleerichards
https://www.youtube.com/user/MirandaLeeRichards1
BIOS:
Courtney Taylor-Taylor is an American singer-songwriter from Portland, Oregon. He is the lead singer and guitarist of alternative rock band The Dandy Warhols, a band he co-founded. Taylor-Taylor has written the majority of the band's songs.
Miranda Lee Richards is known for her distinctive brand of enchanting “chamber folk rock meets cosmic country," Miranda Lee Richards’ latest long-player, Existential Beast, is provocative in every sense, from the breadth of musical ambition to its politically-driven lyrics (10/10 Americana UK).
She has collaborated in the studio and/or performed onstage with The Brian Jonestown Massacre, Mark Gardener of Ride, The Jesus and Mary Chain, The Dandy Warhols, Bridgette St. John, Susan Vega, Grant Lee Philips, The Cordovas, Juliana Hatfield, Albert Hammond, GospelbeacH, The Beachwood Sparks, and Charlie Overbey, among many others. Miranda Lee Richards is currently working on an album of solo Americana material, and two collaborative folk albums: one with the U.K.-based Lords of Thyme and another with the Los Angeles-based MIROMA trio. In 2019, she was voted best folk-roots artist by the LA Weekly.
TONY VISCONTI launches Daisy the Great
Today on the LaunchLeft Podcast, Rain Phoenix engages in a rich dialogue with renowned music producer and composer, Tony Visconti. Tony reflects on his early influences, including his high school music teacher …
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Today on the LaunchLeft Podcast, Rain Phoenix engages in a rich dialogue with renowned music producer and composer, Tony Visconti. Tony reflects on his early influences, including his high school music teacher and his family's musical background. He shares fascinating stories about his collaborations with David Bowie and Brian Eno, highlighting the innovative techniques used in producing albums like Heroes and Low. The episode also explores Tony's work with T. Rex and Paul McCartney, offering listeners a glimpse into the unique creative processes behind some of rock music's most iconic records. Then, Tony launches Daisy the Great. Mina and Kelly, the voices behind the raw and playful album Spectacle: Daisy the Great vs. Tony Visconti give us a glimpse into their creative process and co-writing with Toni Visconti. The conversation is both nostalgic and insightful, providing a deep dive into the world of music production.
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IN THIS EPISODE:
[1:57] Tony discusses his unique and creative work with David Bowie and how they captured the unique vocal sound in the album Heroes
[14:28] Tony reflects on how his high school music teacher, Dr. Israel Silberman, inspired him and helped build his foundation for music theory and love for music composition
[20:00] Tony discusses the musical talent in his family, then how music found him
[27:15] Tony reflects on his collaborations with David Bowie and Brian Eno
[37:03] How Tony ended up composing for Paul McCarney
[43:29] Meet Mina and Kelly, the voices behind Daisy the Great, and hear how their latest EP Spectacle: Daisy the Great vs. Tony Visconti came to be and a discussion about collaborating with Tony.
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
From a young age, Toni studied the master sheet music of classical artists like Mozart and Beethoven, learning each instrument’s part, then figuring out how they came together. This is how his passion for producing music was sparked and led him to dive straight into the music industry after high school
Tony, David Bowie, and Brian Eno worked so well together and each brought their own innovative skill sets and creative energy into the studio. Together, they created some of rock music's most iconic records. Even so, each artist would still create their own work or have other collaborations in progress, which was ideal, because it kept them from growing stagnant as artists. They were constantly learning and trying new techniques or experimenting with equipment, which they would bring into their next album together
After decades creating music with icons, Tony is still passionate about learning from and collaborating with artists. For instance, while working with Mina and Kelly, his co-writing experience was something that he had never experienced before.
RESOURCE LINKS:
Daisy the Great Links:
Spectacle: Daisy the Great vs. Tony Visconti
Spectacle: Daisy the Great vs. Tony Visconti is the most expansive release from Daisy the Great yet. It is a masterclass in sonic storytelling — a dazzling exploration of the indie innovation that has defined the duo since the release of their hit “The Record Player Song” and its certified-gold follow-up, “Record Player” with AJR. The five new tracks were co-created with Grammy-winning producer Tony Visconti (David Bowie, T. Rex), and capture the New York City duo honing in on their unique brand of genre-defying music where interlocking double lead vocals and striking harmonies give their sound an artful and kaleidoscopic twist.
Tony Visconti Links:
Tony Visconti is recognized as one of the top music producers in the history of rock music.
JON CONGLETON launches Sarah Kinsley
For this episode of LaunchLeft Podcast, Rain is joined by renowned producer and musician John Congleton, who shares his journey in the music industry and his collaboration with emerging artist Sarah Kinsley …
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For this episode of LaunchLeft Podcast, Rain is joined by renowned producer and musician John Congleton, who shares his journey in the music industry and his collaboration with emerging artist Sarah Kinsley. They explore the creative process, the significance of authenticity in art, and the unique dynamics of producing music. John Congleton shares his early musical influences and the pivotal moments that led him to become a producer, reflecting on his upbringing in a musically rich environment and the profound impact of punk rock on his creative journey. John launches Sarah Kinsley who reflects on working with John on her latest album, “Escaper”, highlighting the collaborative nature of music production and the challenges of translating studio work to live performances.
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In This Episode:
[5:30] John Congleton's Early Music Journey
[10:48] The Role of Artists and Creativity
[16:43] Mentorship and Influence of Steve Albini
[21:33] John launches Sarah Kinsley
[27:06] Creating Music with Physical Instruments
[33:07] The Impact of Technology on Music Creation
[38:25] Social Media and Artistic Perception
Key Takeaways:
Everyone is inherently creative, akin to breathing. It's about recognizing and nurturing that creativity in everyday life.
Congleton believes that creativity is as natural as breathing. Everyone possesses it, but often, people forget their innate artistic potential. Recognizing and nurturing this creativity can lead to personal fulfillment and innovation.
Artists serve as conduits for expressing the human experience. They capture the essence of what it feels like to be alive at a particular moment in time, offering insights that go beyond mere information through all forms of art and expression.
The digital age presents new challenges, such as the instant playback of music and the pervasive influence of social media. Artists must balance these tools with their creative instincts to maintain authenticity.
Performing live offers a unique opportunity to connect with audiences in a shared, ephemeral experience. It allows artists to reinterpret their work and engage with listeners on a deeper level.
RESOURCE LINKS:
Links for John Congleton
https://www.instagram.com/congletonjohn
Links for Sarah Kinsley
https://www.instagram.com/sarahkinsleyd
https://www.tiktok.com/@sarahkinsleyd
https://twitter.com/sarahkinsleyd
https://www.sarahkinsleymusic.com/
John Congleton’s Bio
Producer of some of the most cutting edge music over the past ten years, Grammy award-winning producer John Congleton is known for challenging the artists with whom he works and the listeners who enjoy their work. From his astounding drum sounds to the aggressive guitar sounds he conjures, Congleton defines modern record production.
Starting as a teenager in Dallas, Congleton studied and learned the craft of engineering from the ground up. While recording bands on the local scene he developed into an engineer of note. Soon he was being called to record projects as diverse as Kirk Franklin, Erykah Badu and the Dallas Symphony Orchestra, all the while continuing to work with the local indie rock scene.
Upon returning to Dallas, Congleton quickly established himself as the best producer in town. It was while working with the Polyphonic Spree he met Annie Clark, now better known as St. Vincent. Their partnership over six albums has won Grammy awards and been universally praised by critics as some of the most important music of our times.
Now based in Los Angeles, Congleton continues to grow and flourish. In addition to the repeat business from long-time clients, he’s now established among the best of the best. Recent productions include Death Cab for Cutie, The Murder Capital, Tegan and Sara, Regina Spektor, Wallows, Angel Olsen, Sharon Van Etten and many more.
ADRIA PETTY launches Amy Helm
Join us in celebrating Tom Petty’s birthday by welcoming his daughter, artist/director Adria Petty to the pod. Adria talks about what it was like losing her father and how she is working through the emotions by …
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Join us in celebrating Tom Petty’s birthday by welcoming his daughter, artist/director Adria Petty to the pod. Adria talks about what it was like losing her father and how she is working through the emotions by honoring him. She shares deeply about the impact he had on her as an artist and her commitment to keeping his legacy alive by releasing and reissuing music and film from his archive. We talk about his Gainesville roots, his first band Mudcrutch, the film ‘Heartbreakers Beach Party’, his generosity and so much more! Adria then launches Amy Helm who discusses her new album, ‘Silver City’, and her experiences on the road from her current tour. She talks about collaborations she has done, and what is next for her. Stay till the end to hear a live version of her song, ‘Money on 7’.
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IN THIS EPISODE:
- [1:35] Adria talks about losing her father to fentanyl.
- [9:08] What is Adria’s connection to Gainesville?
- [14:12] When things get tough, how does Adria use art to get through?
- [20:19] How can we express our shared humanity and come back together as people?
- [21:12] What was it like for Adria to have to go through her dads estate and discover all he left behind?
- [32:34] Adria discusses Heartbreakers Beach Party and what it’s about.
- [35:55] Amy Helm joins the show to talk about her album, What the Flood Leaves Behind.
- [38:15] Amy shares about being on the road and touring.
- [43:12] We hear about Amy’s record and collaborators she worked with.
- [52:03] What types of workshops is Amy creating?
- [55:28] Listen to a snippet of Money on 7 by Amy Helm.
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
- Allow yourself to grieve and feel the loss of someone you love, but also think of the joyful times and how they would want you to be living your life now.
- Music, poetry, and art are a beautiful way to create and share your emotions, pain, positivity with the world. It is a way for people to connect with one another.
- Tom Petty’s legacy lives on with his daughter, Adria, and all the work that she is doing to continue putting his music and talent out to the world.
RESOURCE LINKS:
Links for Adria Petty:
Links for Amy Helm:
BIOGRAPHIES:
Adria Petty’s Bio
Adria Petty is an American director, editor, art director, and artist.
Amy Helm’s Bio
When creating her fourth album, the soulful and reflective Silver City, Amy Helm was guided by her North Star: women’s voices. “Women whispering, singing, shouting their stories - speaking the truth. I wanted to dig into that inherited narrative and reach for what I could.” The epistolary anthology is a collection of conversations that travel through time, exploring and celebrating womanhood in all its complexities. Silver City blends the folk twang of Helm’s childhood with gospel and soul, drawing inspiration from varied stories: the life of Helm’s great-grandmother, the story of a young fan struggling with substance abuse, Helm’s own life as a single mother and hard-touring singer. Recorded at Levon Helm Studios in Woodstock, New York, and produced by Josh Kaufman, the album finds Helm exploring themes of womanhood, single motherhood, and personal struggles, offering songs that are deeply personal and narrative-driven. With Silver City, Helm embraces the beauty of age, survival, and transformation through her powerful, story-rooted performances.
SHARON VAN ETTEN launches Maxim Ludwig
This week, on LaunchLeft, Rain is joined by Sharon Van Etten. In this episode Sharon talks with Rain about how she got into music and what inspires her to write. We hear about Van Etten’s latest single Every …
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This week, on LaunchLeft, Rain is joined by Sharon Van Etten. In this episode Sharon talks with Rain about how she got into music and what inspires her to write. We hear about Van Etten’s latest single Every Time the Sun Comes Up, and her happiness with finding a band that excites and moves her musically.
Sharon then introduces Maxim Ludwig to the conversation and we learn about his new music, how they met, and some of their great stories, insights, and revelations about art, touring, and friendship. The episode closes with Maxim’s song Baby, I Wanna Be Your Lover Tonight.
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IN THIS EPISODE:
- [1:17] Where does Sharon draw inspiration creatively?
- [5:32] Sharon discusses her newly released single Every Time the Sun Comes Up.
- [7:56] Did Sharon ever envision being a musician?
- [14:18] Does Sharon prefer playing in the studio or live?
- [18:12] When was the first time Sharon really felt connected to music?
- [24:40] Maxim joins the show and Sharon share’s how they met.
- [37:03] How do music and visual art tie in together for Maxim?
- [40:39] What are everyone's thoughts on backing tracks?
- [48:40] How long has Sharon been following Maxim?
- [51:04] How did Maxim pick out the guitar for Sharon?
- [56:44] Why is live music so amazing?
- [1:00:20] Maxim introduces his song Baby, I Wanna Be Your Lover Tonight.
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
- Take your time with your music, the pieces will fall into place when it's meant to be. Sharon is just now feeling like she has her band together after years and years of being a musician.
- Find like minded people and mentors to help you get started. Maxim started by helping Sharon, but learned so much and has been able to make his own music.
- There is nothing quite like the energy connection between audience and performer.
RESOURCE LINKS:
Links for Sharon Van Etten:
Links for Maxim Ludwig:
BIOGRAPHIES:
Sharon Van Etten is an artist and recognized as one of the most influential and iconic songwriters of our time. She released her sixth full-length album, We’ve Been Going About This All Wrong, this past May. Leading into its release, Pitchfork profiled Van Etten stating, “Sharon Van Etten Is an Institution Now,” while Rolling Stone called her “one of the most fearless, soul-shredding songwriters on the planet.” Van Etten made her return to The Late Show with Stephen Colbert in support of the new album and took the “soul-strengthening” (New Yorker) Wild Hearts Tour with Angel Olsen and Julien Baker all over the country. In support of Van Etten’s 2019 release, Remind Me Tomorrow, she was profiled in The New York Times’ Arts & Leisure section and the album was featured prominently in best of 2019 lists by NPR Music, Billboard, Fresh Air, Rolling Stone, Pitchfork, ESQUIRE, The New Yorker and more. Van Etten has collaborated with artists ranging from Courtney Barnett and Joshua Homme to Norah Jones and Angel Olsen, and been covered by artists including Fiona Apple, Lucinda Williams, Big Red Machine and Idles. She has performed on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel Live!, The Ellen DeGeneres Show, Austin City Limits TV and The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon.
Van Etten was a guest star in the Netflix series The OA and guest starred in Eliza Hittman’s “Never, Rarely, Sometimes, Always.” She performed in David Lynch’s revival of Twin Peaks. Off-screen, she wrote her first score for Katherine Dieckmann’s movie Strange Weather and the closing title song for Tig Notaro’s show, Tig. Most recently, she appeared in “How It Ends,” which also featured two songs by Van Etten.
HOT CHIP's ALEXIS TAYLOR launches Mozart Estate
Welcome back to LaunchLeft! This week Rain is joined by Alexis Taylor from Hot Chip and Lawrence from Mozart Estate. Throughout this episode they discuss how Alexis and Lawrence met and why Alexis chose to …
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Welcome back to LaunchLeft! This week Rain is joined by Alexis Taylor from Hot Chip and Lawrence from Mozart Estate. Throughout this episode they discuss how Alexis and Lawrence met and why Alexis chose to Launch Mozart Estate. They also talk about the power of music and healing, and how music and other forms of art can make such a big impact on the world. They chat about their individual careers, what their next steps are, and how the expenses of creating new records or playing live impact their creativity. Tune in to the episode to hear why art and music are so important and enjoy Lawrence’s (Mozart Estate) new song to close the show.
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IN THIS EPISODE:
[1:34] Was there another artist that uplifted or helped Alexis when he was getting started?
[11:33] What are the different types of artists?
[13:20] Lawrence from Mozart Estate joins the show.
[14:04] How did Lawrence and Alexis meet?
[25:31] Would Alexis ever do anything else other than music?
[30:59] What other bands have influenced Lawrence and Alexis?
[39:05] Has Alexis dealt with competitiveness in his time as an artist?
[38:58] What are Rain, Alexis and Lawrence currently focusing on for their individual careers?
[50:13] What is the end goal of chasing your dreams?
[58:67] If you are a new listener of Mozart Estate what should you start listening to?
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
There are different forms of art that can help people connect and work through trauma, such as a film, or music, or piece of art.
Artists are such an important part of our humanity. By centering the truth of art will allow the gift to continue to spread.
Keep holding belief in yourself and following your dreams, that’s what will pull you through when times are hard.
RESOURCE LINKS:
Links for Alexis Taylor:
Links for Mozart Estate:
Alexis Taylor’s Bio
Best known as a founding member of the UK electropop outfit Hot Chip, Alexis Taylor also pursues a solo career as an introspective singer-songwriter one moment and a synth/drum machine/guitar wig-out noise-maker the next, finding different angles on his music with each album. Taylor's debut, ‘Rubbed Out’, arrived in 2008, a mix of electronic improvisations and bubble gum lofi pop, somewhere between Alex Chilton, Paul McCartney and Arthur Russell. Since then, Alexis has released a further five albums; ‘Await Barbarians’, ‘Piano’, ‘Listen With(out) Piano’ (to be played on two turntables simultaneously) ‘Beautiful Thing’ - with DFA/Unkle producer Tim Goldsworthy - and his latest offering ‘Silence’ - a personal and reflective, almost entirely acoustic record released in 2021 featuring jazz improviser Kenichi Iwasa, harpist Rachel Horton Kitchlew and double-bassist Sam Becker.
Alexis has collaborated with the likes of Peter Gabriel, Robert Wyatt, Bonnie 'Prince' Billy and David Byrne, as well as remixing Neu!, Au Revoir Simone and Kraftwerk (alongside his Hot Chip bandmates). He is also a member of Atomic Bomb, About Group, Fainting By Numbers & Fimber Bravo.
Mozart Estate’s Bio
Lawrence is known for fronting influential pop groups Felt, Denim and Go-Kart Mozart. Now he’s back on the road and using the moniker Mozart Estate. A new name for a new time, he says. A new band too and a brand-new album out now entitled Pop-up! Ker-ching! And The Possibilities Of Modern Shopping. The band are touring the UK all summer and beyond. Will Hodgkinson’s book Street-Level Superstar, A Year With Lawrence is published on 5th September.
IAN ROGERS launches Strand Of Oaks
Welcome back to LaunchLeft! This week I am joined by Ian Rogers who has been on the cutting edge of technology and music since '93 when he began working with the Beastie Boys. Ian’s had an innovative hand in …
Notes de l’épisode
Welcome back to LaunchLeft! This week I am joined by Ian Rogers who has been on the cutting edge of technology and music since '93 when he began working with the Beastie Boys. Ian’s had an innovative hand in bringing companies such as Apple Music, Beats 1, LVMH & Ledger into the digital age while maintaining a deep curiosity and passionate artful approach. We talk about Ian’s love of learning, his creative outlets, and how the past plays a part in the future. Ian shares about how his children have influenced his work and how the use of technology is changing the landscape for getting music heard. Half way through the episode, he introduces his friend and fellow Indiana native, Tim from Strand of Oaks to discuss his music and the connection between culture and technology. We all share ideas on how to get music heard today and the importance of building a brand in this new world of music. Tune in for this great conversation and hear Strand of Oaks new song ”Ananda”.
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LaunchLeft Podcast hosted by Rain Phoenix is an intentional space for Art and Activism where famed creatives launch new artists. LaunchLeft is an alliance of left-of-center artists, a curated ecosystem that includes a podcast, label and NFT gallery.
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IN THIS EPISODE:
[1:40] Ian shares about his love of learning.
[6:09] Where does Ian find joy and how has that played out in his work?
[8:42] How does the past play a part in the future and in technology?
[15:55] What is Ian’s creative outlet?
[17:15] How do Ian’s children impact his business?
[20:10] What creates excitement for Ian in his work?
[22:37] Do artists have the same opportunities they did in the past?
[26:18] Ian provides advice for emerging bands and building a brand.
[31:24] Tim joins to talk about his album Strands of Oak.
[32:40] What influenced the songs on Strands of Oak?
[41:13] How did Ian help Tim when it came to release time?
[51:01] Tim shares about a live show and how to build an audience.
[1:06:39] Ian talks about the connection between culture and technology.
[1:13:25] What's in the future for Tim?
[1:16:42] Hear a song by Strand of Oaks.
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
Pay attention to what the younger generation says is going to take off, because they seem to be ahead of the times and have a good pulse on what is going to be successful.
It takes time to build a brand and find the people who are going to love your music. There is no such thing as an overnight success, people just don’t see all the work that is put in before the success happens.
The one thing that you can count on is that things never stay the same, you have to pivot, adjust with the technology, and look forward to how it will impact the future.
RESOURCE LINKS:
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BIOGRAPHY:
Ian Rogers is the Chief Experience Officer at Ledger, leading the consumer-facing business delivering the world’s #1 way to buy and secure cryptocurrency. Prior, Ian was the Chief Digital Officer at LVMH for five transformative years, working with a portfolio of nearly one hundred brands across luxury including Louis Vuitton, Dior, Sephora, and Hennessy. Ian also sits on the boards of Dr Marten’s and Lyst.
Ian spent twenty years bringing digital music to the mainstream, first with Winamp then Yahoo!, Beats, and Apple. Ian contributed to the 2015 launch of Apple Music including Beats 1, their digital streaming channel. Ian graduated with a Bachelor of Arts in Computer Science (with honors, Phi Beta Kappa) from Indiana University in 1994. Ian built some of the earliest music-related Web sites in the early 90s and has been working with Beastie Boys since 1993.
SUMMER PHOENIX launches Riley Polanski
Welcome back to the LaunchLeft podcast. This week Rain welcomes her sister Summer Phoenix to the show. Summer shares about her new business venture with co-owner Stacey Mann, STAY. STAY is LA’s first …
Notes de l’épisode
Welcome back to the LaunchLeft podcast. This week Rain welcomes her sister Summer Phoenix to the show. Summer shares about her new business venture with co-owner Stacey Mann, STAY.
STAY is LA’s first alcohol-free, zero-proof bar. We talk about Summer’s relationship with music and how STAY is an extension of her commitment to center an alcohol free and vegan lifestyle. Summer launches Riley Polanski in this episode. Riley discusses what led him to music, and how he shifted his focus from business law to music, and how that decision has impacted his life. Tune in to hear his story and beautiful voice as he performs a live acoustic version of his song “Eloise”.
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LaunchLeft Podcast hosted by Rain Phoenix is an intentional space for Art and Activism where famed creatives launch new artists. LaunchLeft is an alliance of left-of-center artists, a curated ecosystem that includes a podcast, label and NFT gallery.
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IN THIS EPISODE:
[01:48] Summer discusses the genesis of STAY and what it means to her.
[06:52] Did Summer use her background of interior design to decorate STAY?
[07:58] Summer discusses the possibility of returning to film or TV.
[10:07] How did music find Summer?
[12:04] Who does Summer’s graphic design?
[12:49] Summer shares some of her favorite female-run businesses.
[15:59] Summer launches Riley Polanski and talks about how he brought her out of retirement.
[18:58] How did music find Riley Polanski?
[20:35] What led Riley to start creating music?
[21:45] Riley shares the song he will perform live and the story behind it.
[23:10] Riley’s song Eloise, performed live in the studio.
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
You can always try something new. You can learn the skills and put your heart into it and achieve your goals.
Having a space to gather with friends and family or in creative community without the pressures of alcohol is important, and there should be more spaces like STAY.
Never say never. Riley Polanski is a perfect example of someone who was going to go a very different direction in life, and then music found its way back and he is now a wonderful singer and songwriter.
RESOURCE LINKS:
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Links for Riley Polanski:
BIOGRAPHY:
Summer Phoenix’s Bio
SUMMER PHOENIX is a single mom of two sons, an actor, musician, animal rights activist, and environmentalist. She is the founder of both August Jude Design and Some Odd Rubies having created sustainability models in fashion and interior design for over two decades. She also served on the Board of River Phoenix Center for Peacebuilding and prioritizes being alcohol and drug free. She currently is half of STAY. - LA’s first zero-proof bar.
Riley Polanski’s Bio
Introducing Shadow Pop visionary Riley Polanski, LGBTQ+ and rooted in the vibrant cultural landscape of Los Angeles, Polanski's musical palette draws from the rich tapestry of folk and alternative pop.
In an industry often defined by its rigidity, Polanski's emergence is nothing short of extraordinary. At the heart of Polanski's artistry lies a profound desire to serve those who feel “othered.” His lyrics, born from the crucible of personal struggle with addiction and abuse, bleed with raw authenticity, inviting listeners into an intoxicating journey of self-discovery.
In both his recorded works and electrifying live performances alongside his bandmate, Distant Cowboy on cello, Polanski curates an immersive sonic experience that transcends mere entertainment. Complemented by the visual artistry of Rion Ezra and the insightful docuseries crafted by Serena Jewel, Polanski uses multimedia as a multi-dimensional glimpse into the creative Mind behind his emotionally-charged soundscapes.
KATHLEEN HANNA launches Naz Riahi
Today on the podcast Rain is joined by writer and musician, Kathleen Hanna. Their conversation travels from shared memories of being in bands in the 90’s, Kathleen’s thoughts on feminism today, how anger can …
Notes de l’épisode
Today on the podcast Rain is joined by writer and musician, Kathleen Hanna. Their conversation travels from shared memories of being in bands in the 90’s, Kathleen’s thoughts on feminism today, how anger can motivate and harm creativity, the importance of self care and why it’s best to ditch toxic relationships. Kathleen’s memoir REBEL GIRL is out now. We then hear from the incredibly inspiring writer and filmmaker Naz Riahi, who shares what it was like to work with Kathleen on Rebel Girl, how music found her in Iran as a child, what inspires her, and what’s next for her creatively. Tune in to this power hour of conversation at LaunchLeft.com/podcast.
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LaunchLeft Podcast hosted by Rain Phoenix is an intentional space for Art and Activism where famed creatives launch new artists. LaunchLeft is an alliance of left-of-center artists, a curated ecosystem that includes a podcast, label and NFT gallery.
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IN THIS EPISODE:
- [5:25] How much has feminism changed since the 80s? What is the state of feminism today?
- [10:54] What is an internal positive belief that has stayed with Kathleen since childhood that she still draws upon?
- [12:24] Are all art forms the same or different in the process of creating?
- [18:26] Does anger motivate Kathleen when she is writing?
- [29:03] What does Kathleen do for self care while on the road?
- [37:44] What is Kathleen’s advice for young women?
- [41:05] How did music find Kathleen?
- [43:20] Kathleen introduces Naz Riahi and explains why she tipped her hat to Naz.
- [49:31] Naz joins the show and shares about what it was like working with Kathleen.
- [52:52] What about working with Kathleen influenced Naz’s own work or inspired her as a writer?
- [56:16] How did music find Naz?
- [58:36] What is next for Naz?
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
- [24:47] We’re all creators, we all have the ability. We’re creating every day by being alive, we are creating our reality, we’re creating the future of what we want to be and say and do in the world.
- [38:12] If you find yourself in a toxic relationship with someone, whether that be a friend, family or lover, step away. Those toxic people are standing in the way of other people who are waiting for an opportunity to be in your life.
- [55:11] Take chances to try new things and allow opportunities into your life, but if you are finding those things take away from your energy to do the things you love, then you know those are not for you.
RESOURCE LINKS:
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Links for Naz Riahi
BIOGRAPHIES:
Katheleen Hanna:
Kathleen Hanna is a punk singer, artist, and the front-woman of the influential bands Bikini Kill and Le Tigre. Hanna is a staple in feminist publications, from college curriculums to bestselling books, and a leading voice in the punk feminist movement. She has been named one of the best live performers of our time, earning acclaim from Rolling Stone, The New York Times, NPR, Interview Magazine, V Magazine, Vogue, Entertainment Weekly, BUST Magazine, NYLON and Los Angeles Times, to name a few.
Naz Riahi:
Naz Riahi (she/her) is a filmmaker, writer and artist. Much of her work explores the spaces, emotions and opportunities and humor of reaching for connection, informed by her experiences as an immigrant from Iran.
She was named one of Filmmaker Magazine’s 25 New Faces of Independent Film. Her short film Sincerely, Erik received a Vimeo Staff Pick and won a Vimeo Best of the Year Award and was named a NoBudge Best Film of the Year. It has garnered praise from Brooklyn Academy of Music (BAM), The New York Times T Magazine and Fast Company among numerous publications and cultural institutions.
Her essays, journalism and fiction have been published widely in outlets such as Harper’s Bazaar, Oldster, Pipe Wrench, Food & Wine, Los Angeles Review of Books, Longreads, Catapult, The Fader, Guernica and more.
Naz has performed original works at MoCA (Museum of Contemporary Art Los Angeles) and at Dynasty Handbag’s Weirdo Night.
She was the creator of the dialogical art project, Bitten. In recognition of Bitten, Naz was invited to SXSL at the Obama White House. An essay she wrote about the experience received public praise from President Obama.
Her collection of short stories, Vibrations, will be published by Dopamine Press in 2025.
Naz holds an MFA from the New School and is the recipient of a NYFA City Artist Corps Grant.
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