
Love Letters to Troublemakers
- Épisodes
- 24
- Parution
- toutes les deux semaines
- Dernier épisode
- 12 Nov 2026
À propos du podcast
Your BS detector isn't broken — corporate culture just trained you to ignore it. Love Letters is the podcast for anyone who has ever suspected the problem isn’t us. We name what's broken at work, back it up with receipts, and build real power with workers who are done performing. No productivity hacks. No personal brand advice. Just honest analysis and a community ready to change the status quo. New episodes weekly.
Épisodes 24
E22. Gladiator Calibration, The Vitality Curve & Why Ratings Measure the Boss
If your annual performance review feels less like an objective assessment of your labor and more like a high-stakes humiliation ritual, you are not imagining it. In this episode of Love Letters to …
Notes de l’épisode
If your annual performance review feels less like an objective assessment of your labor and more like a high-stakes humiliation ritual, you are not imagining it.
In this episode of Love Letters to Troublemakers, Aparna Rae and Rob Hadley take on one of corporate America’s most toxic and anxiety-inducing sacred cows: the modern performance management industrial complex. From Peter Drucker’s 1950s "Management by Objectives" to Jack Welch’s brutal 1980s "vitality curve," we trace how an alignment tool degenerated into a gladiatorial bloodsport designed to justify rankings, suppress raises, and preserve executive bonuses.
Drawing on empirical research from Marcus Buckingham and Ashley Goodall’s Nine Lies About Work, Rob pulls back the curtain on the statistical joke of the 5-point scale and the "Idiosyncratic Rater Effect"—proving that over 60% of a review score reflects the quirks, biases, and personality of the rater, not the performance of the person being rated. Aparna shares her own encounter with the "illusion of objectivity" during an interview at the Gates Foundation, and they examine how real-time AI surveillance tools (from mouse-tracking to Slack sentiment analysis) are actively stripping out human context to automate bias at scale.
Finally, we tackle the alternative: What happens when leaders stop funding multi-million-dollar consulting frameworks, ditch forced curves, and instead treat work as a collaborative group project focused on obstacle removal?
RESOURCES & LINKS MENTIONED:
Nine Lies About Work: A Freethinking Leader’s Guide to the Real World by Marcus Buckingham & Ashley Goodall
Reinventing Organizations by Frédéric Laloux
Aparna Rae’s Work & Updates: aparnarae.com
Send your absurd calibration stories, PIP letters, and corporate screenshots to: [email protected]
#LoveLettersToTroublemakers #AparnaRae #RobHadley #PerformanceManagement #StackRanking #VitalityCurve #CorporateCulture #FutureOfWork #PeopleAnalytics #NineLiesAboutWork
E21. Mutual Aid at Work: Beyond the Corporate Self-Advocacy Lie
"The machine is not coming to save you, but we can save each other. Your W-2 job, your corporate budget, your vendor lists—those are tools. You can use them to extract maximum efficiency for shareholders who …
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"The machine is not coming to save you, but we can save each other. Your W-2 job, your corporate budget, your vendor lists—those are tools. You can use them to extract maximum efficiency for shareholders who are never gonna know your name, or you can use them to redistribute wealth, power, and safety so nobody in our community gets pushed to the margins." — Aparna Rae
IN THIS EPISODE
For years, white-collar workers—especially women and people of color—were sold a neat little playbook: lean into every committee, negotiate your salary, polish your personal brand, and the corporate meritocracy will reward you. But after conducting in-depth interviews with 40 mid-career women pushed out of traditional employment and forced into entrepreneurship, Aparna Rae brings the receipts: meritocracy is a lie. At the first hint of economic and political friction, organizations scrubbed equity from their mission statements, eliminated the roles of the very people who built their cultures, and left workers with elevated resting heart rates and unmanageable workloads.
Joining Aparna in the studio are two co-conspirators who survived the corporate trenches together at Nike: Dr. Evelyn Carter, author of Was That Racist?, and Season 1 co-host Lars Gallien. Together, they unpack what happens when the "canary in the coal mine" metaphor becomes a lived reality. From navigating the physical toll of opening Slack notifications to the practical power of overriding an executive contract veto to get an outsider paid, this episode breaks down why we must stop playing the single-player game of corporate self-advocacy and start building an underground network of workplace mutual aid.
THE QUESTION WE'RE SITTING WITH
If the corporate machine will never love you back, how do you use your access, proximity, and budget right now to protect and redistribute resources to someone outside the walls?
TAKE THIS WITH YOU (KEY TAKEAWAYS)
- Burnout is not simply an issue of working long hours; it is the direct physical result of giving 150% to a system that refuses to reciprocate. When companies trade meaningful security for symbolic perks, the nervous system pays the bill.
- If you have budget authority, vendor power, or a seat at the decision-making table, stop trying to run an empire at maximum efficiency. Use your social and political capital to override internal risk aversion, push back on corporate blacklists, and direct paid work to marginalized practitioners.
- Bridging cross-cultural divides requires moving beyond the transactional "quid pro quo" networking model. High-context solidarity means proactively tracking what your peers need and offering support without waiting for them to navigate the shame of asking.
- Sustainable career longevity begins by asking, "Who am I outside of late-stage capitalism?" Reconnecting with community gardens, school PTA boards, creative arts, and neighborhood care isn't a distraction from work—it’s the antidote to corporate isolation.
RESOURCES MENTIONED
Book: Was That Racist? by Dr. Evelyn Carter
Research Reference: Aparna Rae’s field interviews with 40 mid-career women navigating corporate displacement and entrepreneurship
Episode Archive: Season 1, Episode 8 with Hala Saleh on the Myth of Self-Advocacy
Upcoming Article: Aparna Rae's upcoming analysis on women in work for Forbes https://www.forbes.com/sites/aparnarae/
CONNECT WITH OUR GUESTS
Dr. Evelyn Carter: Visit her Official Website & Book Page | Connect on LinkedIn
Lars Gallien: Connect on LinkedIn
CONNECT WITH APARNA RAE
Website: aparnarae.com
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/aparnarae
Share Your Story: Send a voice memo or email to [email protected]
E20. AI Future of Work Multiverse
"Organizations, they're not bystanders to AI and impact on jobs. They're the architects. And so when things happen, it was not by chance, by magic, by fiat from up above. There were people making choices." — …
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"Organizations, they're not bystanders to AI and impact on jobs. They're the architects. And so when things happen, it was not by chance, by magic, by fiat from up above. There were people making choices." — Tauseef Rahman
IN THIS EPISODEWe are told that AI is here to liberate us from drudgery, but for many white-collar workers, it feels like the ultimate corporate "stick" to demand more production for less pay. AI is not just a neutral productivity tool; it’s a structural reorganization of who gets paid, how much, and why.
In this episode, Aparna and Rob are joined by Tauseef Rahman to look at the cold, hard receipts behind this shift. Tauseef leads US Workforce Rewards Solutions at Mercer and works globally with organizations on job design, total rewards, and reskilling strategies as AI reshapes roles.
We examine his latest white paper, Reinventing rewards for the AI multiverse, to ask the uncomfortable questions: Are companies genuinely redesigning work to elevate human capability, or are they using AI to hollow out jobs and cut costs under the guise of "efficiency"? We dive into the collapse of human expertise, the democratization of knowledge, and the impossible dilemma HR leaders face when caught between the human workforce and shareholder supremacy.
THE QUESTION WE'RE SITTING WITHIf AI makes technical expertise abundant at near-zero cost, what does the organization owe a worker whose accumulated expertise it no longer values?
TAKE THIS WITH YOU
The AI "Multiverse" is a Design Choice: The impact of AI on jobs is not predetermined. It can be used to elevate middle-tier workers to take on expert-level decision making, or it can be used to hollow out roles and replace human labor cheaply. Organizations are the architects of these outcomes.
The Collapse of the "Expertise" Premium: For a century, compensation was built on the scarcity of expertise. AI is actively compressing the performance gap—raising the floor for novice workers while eroding the advantage of top performers. This breaks traditional pay-for-performance and "tournament" models of work.
HR’s Impossible Dilemma: HR functions are caught in a bizarre balancing act between executing algorithmically-driven cost-cutting for shareholders and advocating for the realities of wage laborers.
Know Where the Value is Created: Organizations often don't understand how work actually gets done on the ground. As a worker, knowing exactly what you do that creates tangible value is your best defense when executives try to "spray paint technology" over your role.
RESOURCES MENTIONED
White Paper: Reinventing rewards for the AI multiverse
CONNECT WITH TAUSEEF RAHMANTauseef Rahman leads US Workforce Rewards Solutions and oversees the Northern California and Hawaii market for the Workforce and Rewards business at Mercer. He spends his time thinking about where work is heading and how AI reshapes what organizations need from their talent strategy.
LinkedIn: Tauseef Rahman
E19. Are Nonprofit Boards Failing the Sector?
Are Nonprofit Boards Failing the Sector? The Cost of Dysfunction & How to Fix ItDid you know there are nearly two million nonprofit organizations in the United States, generating roughly $3.5 trillion in annual …
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Are Nonprofit Boards Failing the Sector? The Cost of Dysfunction & How to Fix It
Did you know there are nearly two million nonprofit organizations in the United States, generating roughly $3.5 trillion in annual spending? Yet, at the helm of most of these organizations are volunteer governing boards that are frequently lost in their own mythos and self-importance.
This week, we are dismantling the archaic architecture of nonprofit boards. Far too many people join boards just to feel good, attend galas, and stroke their egos, leaving the actual governance and mission delivery to suffer.
Host Aparna Rae is joined by Juliet Buder and Mina Velamoor, authors of Measuring Governance to Optimize Nonprofit Impact. We dig into the "give or get" rule, the financial bleed caused by executive turnover, the toxic consequences of treating governance like a speed limit, and why the sector might need to eliminate volunteer boards entirely.
IN THIS EPISODE, WE DISCUSS:
Why board seats are often treated as high-society perks rather than serious fiduciaries of public trust.
Why ineffective administrators and disengaged board members are allowed to stick around in nonprofits when they would be fired immediately in the corporate world.
How performative boards drive the highest leadership turnover rate of any sector, bleeding resources away from the community.
Juliet and Mina’s data-driven approach to holding boards accountable and measuring their actual impact on the mission.
Why complex, high-stakes nonprofits should consider paying board members to transform volunteer cheerleading into professional labor with real liability.
RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:
Read Aparna’s latest article in Nonprofit Quarterly: Nonprofit Boards Are Failing the Sector: Here’s How to Fix Them
Explore Juliet and Mina's research and the full meta-analysis: Governance for Impact
CONNECT WITH US:If you aren't ready for the friction of real change, it's time to step out of the leather armchair. Keep making good trouble wherever you are!
Visit us at aparnarae.com
E18. Corporate Gaslighting & Pay-to-Play Awards
Welcome to Season 2 of Love Letters to Troublemakers (formerly Circle Back Club): (Not) The Best Places to Work. In our season premiere, Aparna Rae and co-conspirator Rob Hadley take a sledgehammer to the …
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Welcome to Season 2 of Love Letters to Troublemakers (formerly Circle Back Club): (Not) The Best Places to Work.
In our season premiere, Aparna Rae and co-conspirator Rob Hadley take a sledgehammer to the multi-million-dollar industrial complex of workplace certifications.
From the pay-to-play economics of top workplace lists to the glaring hypocrisy of companies like Enron and Amazon taking home awards, we pull back the curtain on why these lists actually exist.
We explore how these certifications are designed to inflate executive egos, act as recruitment shields, and gaslight workers into thinking a toxic culture is actually a personal failing. We also examine why identity-based lists—like "Top Employers for Women"—often mask deep pay disparities and a total lack of basic accommodations for working mothers.
Rob shares his insider perspective from running an employee experience analytics group on how these surveys are manipulated and why a company-wide ranking is essentially meaningless when culture varies drastically from one department to the next.
If your work feels absurd right now, you are not imagining it. Join the investigation, send us your worst corporate memos, and let's dissect the sacred cows of corporate culture together.
TIMESTAMPS:00:00 - The inherent hypocrisy of wanting to be on a "Best Places" list00:45 - Welcome to Season 2: Taking a sledgehammer to sacred corporate cows04:57 - The reality of running employee experience analytics07:20 - How the lists actually work: Application fees and manipulated surveys10:24 - The Hall of Fame of Harm: Enron, Starbucks, and Amazon12:59 - Mouse vibrators and workplace surveillance13:38 - The $200k healthcare executive docked pay for a lack of keystrokes16:23 - Why identity-based lists are often the most frustrating and deceptive24:15 - Executive ego and screaming over bonus stoplight charts37:40 - The Verdict: Keep it, fix it, or let it die?
RESOURCES & LINKS:
Website: https://aparnarae.com
Send your stories and redacted screenshots: [email protected]
#LoveLettersToTroublemakers #AparnaRae #FutureOfWork #CorporateCulture #BestPlacesToWork #WorkplaceSurveillance #HRCompliance #Bestplacestowork #greatplacestowork
Not The Best Places To Work
Welcome to Season 2 of Love Letters to Troublemakers (formerly Circle Back Club). This season, we are launching an open-source investigation into the sacred cows of modern work culture - the practices …
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Welcome to Season 2 of Love Letters to Troublemakers (formerly Circle Back Club). This season, we are launching an open-source investigation into the sacred cows of modern work culture - the practices, policies, and habits everyone performs but nobody actually believes in.
From the award badges your company paid a ton of money for, to wellness apps masking unmanageable workloads, to "unlimited" PTO that you can never actually take, we are putting corporate absurdity on trial. Every episode, we ask where these policies came from, who they actually serve, and what would work better, before delivering a final verdict: keep it, fix it, or let it die.
If work feels absurd right now, you're not imagining it. Only one out of three people feel respected at work. It’s a design problem, and it’s following us home to our families, our neighborhoods, and eventually, the ballot box.
CALL TO ACTION: Be our sources. Send us the memos, job postings, and Slack messages that made you stare at a wall, and we'll read the best ones on air. New episodes drop on Thursdays.
E17. Is AI a Psychosocial Workplace Hazard? A Conversation with Ruhee Meghani
"We have lost the art of struggle... We need strong neural pathways built through pressure, not stress, but pressure. And that comes through challenging our thinking." — Ruhee Meghani IN THIS EPISODEThe AI …
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"We have lost the art of struggle... We need strong neural pathways built through pressure, not stress, but pressure. And that comes through challenging our thinking." — Ruhee Meghani
IN THIS EPISODE
The AI train has left the station. While media headlines fixate on tech giant valuations, compute power, and data center energy consumption, a quieter crisis is taking place inside the daily lives of white-collar workers. We are told AI will free up our time and build capacity, yet daily users are experiencing unprecedented levels of cognitive exhaustion, job precarity, and structural anxiety.
In this episode, Aparna Rae is joined by Ruhee Meghani, founder of Allied Collective, calling in from Melbourne, Australia. Australia leads the world in progressive workplace safety legislation, formally classifying workplace stress, low job control, and poor organizational change as legally enforceable psychosocial hazards.
Aparna and Ruhee examine AI through this regulatory lens, moving past tech hype to ask the human questions: How does cognitive offloading erode critical thinking and creativity? How is AI surveillance destroying psychological safety? And why is "AI transformation" often driven by executive FOMO rather than true organizational need?
TAKE THIS WITH YOU
The 17 Psychosocial Hazards: Australia legally regulates psychological injury from 17 distinct hazards—including high job demands, lack of job control, poor organizational change management, and remote isolation.
The Cognitive Gym: Replacing human reflection, writing, and problem-solving with AI shortcuts strips our brains of the "sustained pressure" required to build strong neural pathways, critical thinking, and emotional intelligence.
AI Surveillance as Structural Harm: Keystroke tracking, mouse-movement metrics, and video emotion/engagement scoring create intense workplace anxiety and erode workplace trust.
The "Work Slop" & Efficiency Paradox: AI tools rarely reduce workloads; they accelerate output expectations, compress deadlines, and flood workflows with low-quality content.
RESOURCES MENTIONED
Australia's Safe Work Framework: Safe Work Australia Psychosocial Hazards
Documentary: Coded Bias (Directed by Shalini Kantayya)
Philosophical Frameworks: The Eight Limbs of Yoga & Samadhi (Self-Actualization)
CONNECT WITH RUHEE MEGHANI
E16. Beyond the Deck: Stop Over-Analyzing & Get Your Reps In
"Work across so many sectors trains us to treat real-world human problems like abstract strategy exercises." — Aparna Rae IN THIS EPISODEAre you tired of staring at a 50-slide strategy deck that feels entirely …
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"Work across so many sectors trains us to treat real-world human problems like abstract strategy exercises." — Aparna Rae
IN THIS EPISODE
Are you tired of staring at a 50-slide strategy deck that feels entirely disconnected from the real world? In this episode, host Aparna Rae is joined by innovation researcher, knowledge architect, and equity designer Dr. Pierce Otlhogile-Gordon to explore the "sense-making trap" of white-collar professional life.
Together, they unpack why knowledge workers feel comfortable analyzing systemic issues from behind a screen but freeze when faced with relational, community-level work. Pierce introduces the concept of exposure therapy for changemakers, explaining why embodied knowledge matters more than theoretical frameworks, how philanthropic power turns communities into chessboards, and why you don’t need a massive grant to start making change.
From community weaving canvases to "social judo," this episode is your blueprint for getting your reps in and moving from thinking to doing.
THE QUESTION WE'RE SITTING WITH
Is your action for you, or is your action for we?
TAKE THIS WITH YOU
Embodied Knowledge vs. Abstraction: You cannot learn how to swim by watching videos; you have to get in the water. White-collar workers need exposure therapy to the communities they are trying to impact.
Start Small and Get Your Reps In: Build your changemaking muscle locally—through neighborhood associations, mutual aid groups, school boards, or simply paying forward a local need.
Healthy Communities Feel Like a Forest: Ground your networks in biological ecosystems rather than brittle, top-down castles with moats.
RESOURCES MENTIONED
Relationality by David Jay
Beautiful Trouble (Toolkit & Library) — beautifultrouble.org
Tesa Collective (Movement-organizing games) — tesacollective.com
One Piece (Anime/Manga governance model)
CONNECT WITH DR. PIERCE GORDON
Explore his curated social change library and framework at piercegordon.me
E15. Beyond the LinkedIn Algorithm: Using Your Voice to Fight Corporate Constraints
"Brands are for products. People are defined by stories. And when they tell those stories in powerful ways, there is nothing more magnetic."IN THIS EPISODEIf you have ever felt dirty trying to "build a personal …
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"Brands are for products. People are defined by stories. And when they tell those stories in powerful ways, there is nothing more magnetic."
IN THIS EPISODE
If you have ever felt dirty trying to "build a personal brand" on LinkedIn, or cringed at the pressure of corporate self-promotion, this episode is your antidote.
Aparna is joined by Amanda Hirsch, former Editorial Director of PBS.org and CEO of Mighty Forces - a storytelling company designed explicitly for people who give a damn. Together, they tear down the sterile, hyper-optimized machine of "personal branding" to discuss why brands belong to products, while human beings belong to stories.
Changing this narrative requires immense courage. Too often, white-collar workers face deep-seated fear and severe corporate retaliation when they try to step away from compliance and speak out. The system is designed to keep us quiet and it is time we reclaim our voice.
Aparna and Amanda break down why your authentic, intentional voice matters more than ever right now. Your true perspective is not a personal brand to be managed for algorithms – it is a non-negotiable tool for collective liberation and real structural change.
THE QUESTION WE'RE SITTING WITH
What’s possible when we share our stories - for ourselves and others?
TAKE THIS WITH YOU
Ditch the Corporate Brand Label: Humans are not products or companies. When we force ourselves into marketing caricatures, we strip away our nuance.
The Self-Promotion Gap: Women and marginalized professionals consistently struggle to advocate for their own brilliance online due to societal penalties—but rewriting your LinkedIn profile to reflect your true impact is a necessary, collective reclamation of space.
From Striving to Collective Belonging: Storytelling shouldn't be a solo performance designed for individual gain. The deep medicine our world needs right now is showing up in the public square.
RESOURCES MENTIONED
Learn more about Amanda’s work at mightyforces.co
Connect with Amanda on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandahirsch/
Improvising Adulthood: What I Wish Someone Had Told Me by Amanda Hirsch
Send us your stories, thoughts and connect with Aparna at [email protected]; circleback.club or aparnarae.com
E14. Why hard data always loses to corporate interests—and how to fight back 📊📉
"No billionaire can pull off theft in broad daylight without the help of everyday professional class workers who choose to stay silent or act out of outright complicity."IN THIS EPISODE We like to think that …
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"No billionaire can pull off theft in broad daylight without the help of everyday professional class workers who choose to stay silent or act out of outright complicity."
IN THIS EPISODE We like to think that modern organizations are deeply objective, metrics-driven spaces. But what happens when objective data rubs up against the financial and personal goals of senior leadership? Let's say it plainly: the evidence typically loses.
In this summer bonus episode, Aparna Rae goes completely solo to unpack how data has been weaponized as an employer risk-management apparatus rather than a tool to protect people. Drawing from shocking insider stories—including a healthcare CHRO who cherry-picked engagement data to safeguard executive bonuses and a retailer that outright denied a warehouse team’s tactical request for winter gloves—Aparna challenges us to look closely at the middle tier of everyday professionals who make brazen extraction possible.
We're also looking closely at the education sector, exposing the multi-million dollar EdTech fraud schemes birthed directly by the Forbes "30 Under 30" pipeline, the pseudo-science behind corporate stack ranking, and the fine print that completely dismantles McKinsey’s most famous diversity case studies.
THE QUESTION WE'RE SITTING WITH When data flatters power a little too neatly, do you have the structural courage to double-click and ask where it came from?
TAKE THIS WITH YOU * The "30 Under 30" to Indictment Pipeline: The collapsing infrastructure of companies like All Here proves that the Venn diagram of founders committing massive investor fraud and the people celebrated on elite tech lists is practically a complete circle.
McKinsey’s Replicability Crisis: Independent scientific researchers proved that the famous studies linking diversity to financial performance got the arrow backward. Strong corporate profitability allows companies to invest in diversity, not the other way around. We should invest in equity because humans deserve a dignified way of making a living—not because it pads a spreadsheet.
The Cost of Truth-Telling: Highlighting Sarah Wynn-Williams’ groundbreaking memoir, Careless People, and the lengths to which tech oligarchs will go to legally silence corporate whistleblowers.
The File vs. The Floor: Filing a business license is not evidence of income. Real data fidelity requires precise, continuous accurate representation.
RESOURCES MENTIONED * Careless People: A Cautionary Tale of Power, Greed, and Lost Idealism by Sarah Wynn-Williams
Green & Hand Research on the replication failure of McKinsey's diversity metrics
Season 1, Episode 6 with Dr. Nicole DeKay on the psychological harm of stack ranking
CONNECT WITH US Our digital space: aparnarae.com
Send this episode to a data lover or people analytics professional in your circle: [email protected]
E 13. Why You Have No Bandwidth to Learn: Scarcity & Cognitive Load
"The room isn’t empty because we stopped wanting to learn. It’s empty because we’ve made it harder to feed the hunger." IN THIS EPISODEHave you noticed that your interest in webinars, certificates, and …
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"The room isn’t empty because we stopped wanting to learn. It’s empty because we’ve made it harder to feed the hunger."
IN THIS EPISODE
Have you noticed that your interest in webinars, certificates, and professional cohorts has completely plummeted over the last couple of years?
You are not alone.
Sign-ups are down, virtual attendance is dropping, and the energy in professional learning spaces feels hollow.
In this special summer mini-episode, Aparna Rae digs into the data behind our collective white-collar exhaustion to share a working theory: We broke Maslow’s hierarchy.
Aparna breaks down the steep "cognitive tax" of job precarity, the quiet slashing of corporate training budgets, and the very real reason why your tolerance for generic upskilling webinars has completely cratered.
THE QUESTION WE'RE SITTING WITH
When organizations demand that workers "bootstrap" their own professional development during a historic decline in high-skill jobs, who actually has the cognitive margin to show up?
TAKE THIS WITH YOU
Survival Mode is Cognitively Expensive: When you are calculating immediate bills or navigating layoff anxiety, your brain naturally prioritizes food, shelter, and caregiving over an abstract AI literacy course.
The "Bullshit Meter": If a team has been cut in half while responsibilities double, workers have zero patience left for panel presentations.
Learning Outside the W2 J-O-B: White professionals are rejecting hollow corporate upskilling, but they are deeply hungry for real, tangible skills 0 art, cooking, knitting, gardening, and connecting with nature.
CONNECT WITH US
Our digital home: circleback.club; aparnarae.com
Share how you’re experiencing learning and bandwidth in your own life: [email protected]
E12. Reclaiming Dignity at Work and for Workers
"Dignity isn't a perk. It's not a leadership style. It is the foundation for safety, collective action, and honest work."IN THIS EPISODE In our Season 1 finale, Aparna and Lars lay down the ultimate baseline …
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"Dignity isn't a perk. It's not a leadership style. It is the foundation for safety, collective action, and honest work."
IN THIS EPISODE In our Season 1 finale, Aparna and Lars lay down the ultimate baseline for what it actually means to be human in modern work structures. For months, we have built a meticulous structural, historical, and embodied case for why contemporary white-collar systems make us feel so profoundly small. In this episode, we bring it all home to a single, non-negotiable word: Dignity.
Featuring real, unfiltered field recordings from grassroots organizers, tech coalition members, and national culture changemakers, we break away from corporate compliance theaterto analyze how our current economic environments treat human value as a conditional commodity rather than an inherent truth. From backhanded managerial compliments to the paralyzing trap of professional code-switching, this final conversation unmasks how late-stage capitalism intentionally decommissions human agency - and map out exactly how we can start reclaiming it person-to-person.
THE QUESTION WE'RE LEAVING YOU WITH THIS SEASON What choices would you make, and what would you build entirely differently, if human dignity were your absolute, non-negotiable starting point at work?
TAKE THIS WITH YOU INTO THE SUMMER - Dignity Cannot Be Earned: Stop outsourcing your self-worth to corporate performance ratings or manager validations; dignity belongs to you simply because you exist.
- Exhaustion is Structural Extraction: When you feel physical wrongness but force your body to override it for the sake of "business as usual," you are actively participating in your own behavioral extraction.
- Bring It Into the Room: Dignity is highly contagious when it is somatically and intentionally lived out; when you hold onto your own self-respect, you force the system to react to your truth.
RESOURCES MENTIONED
- What It Takes to Heal by Prentis Hemphill - https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/726173/what-it-takes-to-heal-by-prentis-hemphill/
- The Politics of Trauma by Staci Haines - https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/608550/the-politics-of-trauma-by-staci-haines/
- Inside Organizer School — Founded by Jaz Brisack - https://www.insideorganizerschool.com/
- Tech Workers Coalition - https://techworkerscoalition.org/
CONNECT WITH US Our digital home: https://www.circleback.club/
Drop your career survival stories directly into our inbox [email protected]
Thank you for walking with us through Season 1. Stay subscribed for exclusive between-season drops, and get ready for Season 2.
E11. Are White Collar Workers to Blame?
IN THIS EPISODE"The institution isn't failing in spite of us. It's failing because we keep it going the way it is." In this deeply personal and reflective solo episode, Aparna and Lars hold up a mirror to the …
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IN THIS EPISODE
"The institution isn't failing in spite of us. It's failing because we keep it going the way it is."
In this deeply personal and reflective solo episode, Aparna and Lars hold up a mirror to the white-collar workforce. Diving into the works of sociologist Musa al-Gharbi (We Have Never Been Woke) and cultural theorist Catherine Liu (Virtue Hoarders), they break down two uncomfortable frameworks: Symbolic Capitalism and the Professional Managerial Class (PMC).
If you deal in symbols, ideas, and knowledge from the neck up, you are likely part of this class. But here lies the contradiction: while white-collar progressives fiercely perform moral goodness, they are often deeply allergic to the structural economic changes that would actually cost them their material safety. From language policing to the commodification of trauma culture, Aparna and Lars unpack the distractions we use to avoid real class solidarity.
THE QUESTION WE'RE SITTING WITH
What are you avoiding, and who are you protecting with that avoidance?
TAKE THIS WITH YOU
Track Your Discomfort: Notice when you over-index on righteousness or jargon. Ask yourself: is your reaction serving a collective movement, or just your own moral ego?
Build Consciousness, Not Just Literacy: Move past performative "diversity literacy" and build deep race and class consciousness by understanding how systemic policies actively protect wealth hoarding.
Start Outside If You Can't Inside: If labor organizing doesn't feel feasible at your desk job yet, plug into local mutual aid networks where real resource redistribution is happening.
RESOURCES MENTIONED
• We Have Never Been Woke by Musa al-Gharbi - https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691232607/we-have-never-been-woke?srsltid=AfmBOopC3RgPK_NEmfD8MN2pH-bmnP0A9kkKv5_NTJXMRU7_G1MX-9lW
• Virtue Hoarders: The Case Against the PMC by Catherine Liu - https://www.upress.umn.edu/9781517912253/virtue-hoarders/
• Jason Hickel's research on economic democracy and degrowth - https://jasonhickel.substack.com/
• Get on the Job and Organize by Jaz Brisack - https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Get-on-the-Job-and-Organize/Jaz-Brisack/9781668080801
CONNECT WITH US
Visit us at https://www.circleback.club/
Aparna on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/aparnarae; aparnarae.com
Lars on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/lars-gallien; https://www.larsgallien.com/
E10. Corporate Wellness Theater
We’ve all seen the emails that start with "Now more than ever, we need to talk about wellness." But whose problem is it really?IN THIS EPISODELars and Aparna are joined by Hebba Youssef, Chief People Officer at …
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We’ve all seen the emails that start with "Now more than ever, we need to talk about wellness." But whose problem is it really?
IN THIS EPISODE
Lars and Aparna are joined by Hebba Youssef, Chief People Officer at Workweek and founder of the "I Hate It Here" newsletter. We’re digging into the $60 billion workplace wellness industry to ask: Are meditation apps and sound baths actually helping, or are they just cheap bandaid solutions that allow companies to avoid fixing structural problems? Hebba shares her raw experience navigating grief and EAPs, the dark side of workplace "weight loss challenges," and why "burnout" is often just a corporate rebrand for workplace depression.
THE QUESTION WE'RE SITTING WITH
Why are wellness programs being used more by managers and not individual contributors? And is it a "benefit" if doesn't change how people experience work?
TAKE THIS WITH YOU
- The "CPO of the People" Standard: Why tiered benefits (where executives get better care than hourly or salaried workers) are a moral system set up to fail.
- Destigmatize the Calendar: Follow the lead of founders who put therapy sessions publicly on their calendars to signal that taking care of yourself is part of the job.
- Exhaustion is Data: Reframe your burnout. If the system is making you sick, the problem isn't your "lack of resilience"—it’s a lack of reciprocity.
RESOURCES MENTIONED
- I Hate It Here — Hebba Youssef’s HR newsletter - https://hateithere.co/
- Maintenance Phase — A podcast exploring the flaws in the wellness industry - https://www.maintenancephase.com/
- Minda Harts — Author of The Memo, discussed regarding trust in the workplace - https://www.mindaharts.com/
CONNECT WITH US
Visit us at https://www.circleback.club/
Aparna on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/aparnarae; aparnarae.com
Lars on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/lars-gallien; https://www.larsgallien.com/
E9. Breaking Corporate Isolation
Corporate professionalism is often a tool used to isolate us from our coworkers and the world. It’s time to bridge the gap.IN THIS EPISODEAparna and Lars are joined by tech veteran Glenn Block and organizer …
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Corporate professionalism is often a tool used to isolate us from our coworkers and the world. It’s time to bridge the gap.
IN THIS EPISODE
Aparna and Lars are joined by tech veteran Glenn Block and organizer Abdo Mohamed to dismantle the insistent "professionalism" that prevents us from building meaningful solidarity. We explore the concept of Cross-Class Solidarity - the radical idea that whether you make $60k or $600k, we have more in common with each other than with the corporate structures that stifle our humanity. Abdo shares his experience being fired by Microsoft after organizing a vigil for Gaza, and Glenn discusses the "awakening" that happens when white-collar workers realize their technology is being used to facilitate global harm. This episode is an invitation to stop "keeping the peace" and start building power across the factory floor and the tech campus.
THE QUESTION WE'RE SITTING WITH
When the system is designed to isolate you to keep you compliant, what small move can you make today to reconnect with the collective?
TAKE THIS WITH YOU
- Politicize Your Labor: Understand that your daily tasks - whether coding or data entry - are connected to larger global systems of extraction or empowerment.
- Talk to "Everyone" as a Coworker: Break the hierarchy by building relationships with culinary staff, data center workers, and contractors; we all work for the same machine.
- Reject Purity Politics: Don’t let the fear of not doing "everything" stop you from doing "something." Any small action is better than doomscrolling in isolation.
RESOURCES MENTIONED
- No Azure for Apartheid — A campaign demanding ethical cloud and AI contracts - https://noazureforapartheid.com/
- Tech for Palestine — A community of tech workers organizing for liberation - https://techforpalestine.org/
- Empire of AI by Karen Hao — A book exploring the colonial roots of modern AI - https://bookshop.org/p/books/empire-of-ai-dreams-and-nightmares-in-sam-altman-s-openai-karen-hao/de10c251433f34d2?ean=9780593657522&next=t&next=t&prhc=PRHEFFDF5A7F1
- CODE-CWA & EWOC — Resources for labor organizing and worker training https://code-cwa.org/ | https://workerorganizing.org/
CONNECT WITH US
Circle Back Club: http://circleback.club/
Aparna on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/aparnarae
Lars on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/lars-gallien
Email us: pod@circleback.club
E8. The Self-Advocacy Trap and Myth of The Girl Boss
The Myth of Self-Advocacy: Beyond the Girl Boss Industrial ComplexWe did everything the playbook told us to do—the salary negotiations, the networking, the "leaning in." Why are we still hitting a wall?IN THIS …
Notes de l’épisode
The Myth of Self-Advocacy: Beyond the Girl Boss Industrial Complex
We did everything the playbook told us to do—the salary negotiations, the networking, the "leaning in." Why are we still hitting a wall?
IN THIS EPISODE Aparna and Lars are joined by technologist and community builder Hala Saleh to dismantle the myth of self-advocacy. We look back at the era of the "Girl Boss" and the "Queen Bee" to ask: Is individual advancement enough when the system itself is designed to exhaust us? Hala introduces us to mutual aid at work as a survival strategy, moving from "advocating for myself" to "building for each other." From "ghost" job postings to the hierarchy of reciprocity, this episode is a roadmap for those ready to trade professional isolation for collective power.
THE QUESTION WE'RE SITTING WITH When the system is designed to exhaust you individually, what does it mean to win together?
TAKE THIS WITH YOU
- Identify the Reciprocity Gap: Burnout often stems from a lack of reciprocity - where you give 150% and receive only "pennies" in return.
- Hire Your Friends: If you have the power to make spending decisions, use that resource to provide work for those in your community who need it.
- Speak the Name: Commit to speaking someone’s name in a room where they deserve to be acknowledged, recommended, or promoted.
RESOURCES MENTIONED
- Ya Hala — Hala’s community space built around connection and care - https://www.yahalaseattle.com/
- Entitled by Kate Manne — A look at gender dynamics and the pressure on women to "give" without receiving - https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/608442/entitled-by-kate-manne/
- Tech for Palestine & UpScrolled — Examples of alternative platforms built on collective care - https://techforpalestine.org/ | https://upscrolled.com/en/
CONNECT WITH US
Visit us at https://www.circleback.club/
Hala: https://www.linkedin.com/in/halasaleh/; https://halasaleh.substack.com/
Aparna on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/aparnarae; aparnarae.com
Lars on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/lars-gallien; https://www.larsgallien.com/
E7. Your Body Knows It's Not Safe at Work
We’ve been taught to treat our bodies as mere vehicles that carry our brains to the next meeting, but our soma is actually our most reliable intelligence system.IN THIS EPISODE Aparna and Lars are joined by …
Notes de l’épisode
We’ve been taught to treat our bodies as mere vehicles that carry our brains to the next meeting, but our soma is actually our most reliable intelligence system.
IN THIS EPISODE Aparna and Lars are joined by master somatic coach Giulio Brunini to discuss the profound consequences of overriding our physical signals for the sake of corporate performance. We dive into why "restless toes" and autoimmune flares are often the body’s way of writing a diary of our stress before our minds even recognize the burnout. Giulio shares his transition from the high-pressure world of global advertising to somatic coaching, explaining how leaders can unlearn the "numbing" that got them promoted and instead develop the inner stability needed to lead with presence. This is a slower, intentional conversation about recovering our humanity in a world that asks us to muscle through everything.
THE QUESTION WE'RE SITTING WITH What is your body trying to tell you that your mind isn't yet willing to hear?
TAKE THIS WITH YOU
- The One-Minute Breath Count: Set a timer for one minute and count how many normal inhales and exhales you take. Knowing your "number" makes meditation feel accessible even during a busy workday.
- Notice the "Inconvenience": Pay attention to the physical sensations that arise when you are avoiding a difficult conversation; embodiment often surfaces the truths that are inconvenient for the ego but necessary for growth.
- The Laptop Pause: Before you open your laptop in the morning, take three intentional breaths and notice one sensation in your body—no fixing, just saying hello.
RESOURCES MENTIONED
- Giulio Brunini — Master Somatic Coach specializing in embodied leadership - https://www.giuliobrunini.com/about-giulio-brunini
- The Strozzi Institute — An institute for somatics and leadership. - https://strozziinstitute.org/
- Dr. Gabor Maté — Researcher and author discussed regarding the link between stress and autoimmune disorders - https://drgabormate.com/
CONNECT WITH US
Visit us at https://www.circleback.club/
Aparna on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/aparnarae; aparnarae.com
Lars on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lars-gallien; https://www.larsgallien.com/
Want to bring this conversation into your organization? Aparna and Lars speak at HR conferences, Fortune 1000 ERGs, and philanthropic foundations. [email protected]
E6. Workplaces are Health Hazards
We’ve rebranded workplace depression as "burnout" and personal failure, but the data shows the harm is actually by design.IN THIS EPISODEAparna and Lars are joined by organizational psychologist Dr. Nicole …
Notes de l’épisode
We’ve rebranded workplace depression as "burnout" and personal failure, but the data shows the harm is actually by design.
IN THIS EPISODE
Aparna and Lars are joined by organizational psychologist Dr. Nicole DeKay to go where most U.S. workplace conversations are afraid to go: Psychosocial Hazards. While countries like Australia and New Zealand legally regulate things like "intrusive surveillance," "overload," and "poor change management," the U.S. remains a global outlier in worker neglect. We break down the "Vitality Curve" - a Jack Welch-era relic that forces managers to fire 10% of their team regardless of performance - and why PIPs (Performance Improvement Plans) have become a gaslighting tool to document layoffs. This isn’t about needing more "grit" or a better gratitude journal; it’s about naming the systemic conditions that cause measurable physical and psychological harm.
THE QUESTION WE'RE SITTING WITH
If the U.S. is one of the wealthiest nations on Earth, why do we have fewer legal protections against workplace trauma than almost any of our global peers?
TAKE THIS WITH YOU
- Identify the Hazard: Review the 17 global psychosocial hazards (like low job control or high emotional labor) and identify which one is currently triggering your body’s stress response.
- Question the PIP: If you or a colleague are put on a PIP out of nowhere, recognize it for what it often is—a liability-driven documentation tool—and prioritize your exit strategy over your "performance."
- Break the Isolation: Talk to one trusted coworker about a specific work condition that feels untenable; breaking the "hyper-isolation" of the U.S. workplace is the first step toward collective power.
RESOURCES MENTIONED
- Labor Rights Index — WageIndicator Foundation - https://wageindicator.org/work/labour-law/index/
- Humanalysts — Dr. Nicole DeKay’s platform for democratizing employee data - https://www.humanalysts.com/
- The Vitality Curve — The controversial "rank and yank" management practice popularized by GE - https://www.business.com/articles/the-end-of-rank-and-yank-management-practices-revisited/
CONNECT WITH US
Visit us at https://www.circleback.club/
Nicole on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolejdekay/
Aparna on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/aparnarae; aparnarae.com
Lars on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lars-gallien; http://larsgallien.com/
Want to bring this conversation into your organization? Aparna and Lars speak at HR conferences, Fortune 1000 ERGs, and philanthropic foundations. [email protected]
E5. Who is the Ideal Worker?
We’re all exhausted trying to meet a standard of perfection that wasn't even designed for human beings.IN THIS EPISODEAparna and Lars are joined by organizational consultant Valarie Williams to dismantle the …
Notes de l’épisode
We’re all exhausted trying to meet a standard of perfection that wasn't even designed for human beings.
IN THIS EPISODE
Aparna and Lars are joined by organizational consultant Valarie Williams to dismantle the "Ideal Worker" myth. A set of persistent corporate beliefs that the perfect employee has no life, no caregiving responsibilities, and zero physical or mental health needs. We dive into the "Anxious Achiever" phenomenon, the rise of zero-employee startup goals in Silicon Valley, and why the tech industry treats 2-hour shuttle commutes as on-the-job time. This conversation goes beyond work-life balance to interrogate of how capitalism is modeling the "ideal" after a robot and what happens to our humanity when we try to compete with an algorithm.
THE QUESTION WE'RE SITTING WITH
If the "Ideal Worker" is increasingly modeled after a robot, what parts of your humanity are you being asked to delete to stay competitive?
TAKE THIS WITH YOU
- Audit the Ideal: This week, ask a trusted coworker: "Who do you think is the 'ideal worker' in this department, and does that person actually look like anyone we know in real life?"
- Identify Your "Enough": Reflect on your own "personal alignment" - be honest about the transaction of work so you can stop letting the company define your entire identity.
- Take the Heels Off: Identify one "uncomfortable shoe" in your work life - a performative habit or a rigid norm - and consciously choose to swap it for something that actually fits your needs.
RESOURCES MENTIONED
- The Anxious Achiever — Maura Aarons-Mele https://hbr.org/2023/03/how-high-achievers-overcome-their-anxiety
- "Joan Acker" — Sociologist whose 1990 work defined the gendered "Ideal Worker" norm https://gendersociety.wordpress.com/2016/06/27/remembering-joan-acker/
- Targeted Universalism — A policy framework for designing strategies to help specific marginalized groups reach a universal goal https://belonging.berkeley.edu/targeted-universalism
- "Good Employee Attributes Key Traits" - https://www.leadershipiq.com/blogs/leadershipiq/good-employee-attributes-key-traits-and-characteristics-of-a-great-employee
- "Hierarchies, Jobs, Bodies: A Theory of Gendered Organizations”, Joan Acker http://gas.sagepub.com/content/4/2/139.short
- Melania Trump & Robot video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-NjEku-zE4
- The Guardian - Gen Z males twice as likely as baby boomers to believe wives should obey husbands - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/05/gen-z-men-baby-boomers-wives-should-obey-husbands?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
- Organizational culture and the individuals' discretionary behaviors at work: a cross-cultural analysis https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10291069/#s6
CONNECT WITH US
Visit us at https://www.circleback.club/
Valerie Williams on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamsvalerie1/
Aparna on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/aparnarae; aparnarae.com
Lars on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lars-gallien; https://www.larsgallien.com/
Want to bring this conversation into your organization? Aparna and Lars speak at HR conferences, Fortune 1000 ERGs, and philanthropic foundations. [email protected]
New episodes every week. Follow Circle Back Club so you never miss one.
E4. The Implicit & Explicit Social Contract of Work
We all sign a contract letter when we enter the office, but most of the rules are never actually written down.Explore the hidden unwritten rules of the office with Aparna, Lars, and Leilani Lewis. We break down …
Notes de l’épisode
We all sign a contract letter when we enter the office, but most of the rules are never actually written down.
Explore the hidden unwritten rules of the office with Aparna, Lars, and Leilani Lewis. We break down the "psychological contracts" that demand your silence and performative loyalty. Learn how to reclaim your dignity and rebuild collective power at work.
IN THIS EPISODE Aparna and Lars are joined by arts leader and organization transformation practitioner Leilani Lewis to break down the implicit behaviors and unwritten rules that govern our lives as white-collar workers. We dig into the "psychological contracts" we navigate every day—from who takes the notes in meetings to why your boss might think taking a full lunch break is a sign of disloyalty. It’s a conversation about pulling ourselves out of individual survival mode and recognizing that silence isn't just a habit; it’s a corrosive social contract we have the power to change. We’re looking at what happens when we stop seeing our coworkers as competition and start building a collective sense of dignity instead.
THE QUESTION WE'RE SITTING WITH Is the unwritten "contract" you've made with your organization actually protecting you, or is it just demanding your silence?
TAKE THIS WITH YOU
- Audit the "Implicit": This week, identify one behavior you engage in at work solely because of an unwritten expectation— like note-taking —and notice the impact it has on your energy.
- Talk About the Norms: Get curious with a trusted colleague and ask them directly, "Do you see me as competition?" to start breaking the cycle of atomized performance.
- Prioritize Work Friendship: Make a conscious effort to be a friend to someone at work today; having even one close friend in the trenches is directly correlated to better long-term health and mental wellbeing.
RESOURCES MENTIONED
- "A New Optimization Opportunity" - An email exchange between "Eric F" and "Brenda" widely circulated on Reddit regarding lunch break optics. - https://www.reddit.com/r/SipsTea/comments/1rgaa0w/are_we/
- Sam Altman & OpenAI - Discussion regarding the ethical standards and energy consumption of AI models. - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/feb/23/sam-altman-openai-energy-use-datacenters
- Leilani Lewis - Award-winning arts leader, writer, and seasoned DEI practitioner. - https://www.leilanilewis.com/
CONNECT WITH US
Circle Back Club https://www.circleback.club/
Aparna on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/aparnarae
Lars on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lars-gallien
Want to bring this conversation into your organization? Aparna and Lars speak at HR conferences, Fortune 1000 ERGs, and philanthropic foundations. [email protected]
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E3. Fear of Losing it All - Golden Handcuffs
Fear of losing it all The Invisible Tax of White-Collar SecurityWe often trade our silence and our values for the promise of a steady paycheck, but we have to ask if the thing we are protecting is actually …
Notes de l’épisode
Fear of losing it all
The Invisible Tax of White-Collar Security
We often trade our silence and our values for the promise of a steady paycheck, but we have to ask if the thing we are protecting is actually protecting us back.
IN THIS EPISODE
Aparna and Lars sit down with Dr. Dalya Perez to name the heavy, invisible cost of staying "inside the lines" of corporate America. We dig into why white-collar security often feels like a "deal" that demands our silence, especially when it comes to toxic dynamics, racism, or global crises. From the exhausting performance of annual reviews to the "camp counselor" vibe of corporate ERGs, we’re looking at how competition is used to divide us from the very people we should be building power with. This conversation is for anyone who has ever felt "golden handcuffs" tightening and is ready to stop making their career a solo mission of survival.
THE QUESTION WE'RE SITTING WITH
What does it feel like to work inside an environment where you feel you can't afford to speak up about what is true, real and observable?
TAKE THIS WITH YOU
- Reclaim the Origin Story: Build five minutes into your next one-on-one to ask a colleague about their roots and share your own, shifting the focus from the bottom line to authentic human connection.
- Audit Your "Strategic" Silence: Notice when you use the word "strategic" as a stand-in for feeling worried or scared to speak your mind.
- The Collective Security Dream: Gather three friends and ask: "If we looked at our financial security as a shared responsibility, what different moves would we be willing to take in our careers?"
RESOURCES MENTIONED
- Uncompete — Ruchika Tulshyan Malhotra: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/753092/uncompete-by-ruchika-t-malhotra/
- Dr. Dalya Perez — A DEI leader and scholar specializing in building inclusive cultures: https://linkedin.com/in/dalyaperez
- Catalyst — A global nonprofit focused on accelerating progress for women through workplace inclusion: https://www.catalyst.org/
- Sisterhood Initiative at University of Washington — A program dedicated to supporting undergraduate women of color through community and mentorship: https://uwsisterhoodinitiative.org/
CONNECT WITH US
Aparna on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/aparnarae
Lars on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lars-gallien
Want to bring this conversation into your organization? Aparna and Lars speak at HR conferences, Fortune 1000 ERGs, and philanthropic foundations. [email protected]
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E2. Who Built Modern Work?
Who Built This? The History of Modern Corporate Culture. If you’ve ever felt like a replaceable cog in a machine that values spreadsheets over people, it’s because the system was redesigned to feel exactly that …
Notes de l’épisode
Who Built This?
The History of Modern Corporate Culture.
If you’ve ever felt like a replaceable cog in a machine that values spreadsheets over people, it’s because the system was redesigned to feel exactly that way.
IN THIS EPISODE Aparna and Lars sit down with finance veteran Bachul Koul to trace how we moved from small, community-rooted businesses to a world where "shareholder primacy" is the only law that matters. We dig into the 1970s shift that turned managers into enforcers of the bottom line and explore how the saturation of "junk" products has hollowed out the meaning of our daily labor. It’s a look at the "frozen middle" of management and the moment "burnout" became an official part of the human experience. This isn't just a history lesson; it's a map to help us find our way back to a definition of value that actually includes our humanity.
THE QUESTION WE'RE SITTING WITH If the world will never define "enough" for you, how do you calculate it for yourself?
TAKE THIS WITH YOU
- Calculate Your "Enough": Reflect on what a beautiful life looks like to you and the actual cost required to support it, rather than chasing external markers of success.
- The Employee Primacy Block: Reclaim your time by putting a two-hour "made-up meeting" on your calendar this week to nap, move your body, or simply rest.
- Human Connection over Productivity: Break the isolation of the "shareholder model" by asking a coworker what they actually care about outside of their deliverables.
RESOURCES MENTIONED
- The Visible Hand: The Managerial Revolution in American Business — Alfred Chandler Jr. https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-visible-hand-the-managerial-revolution-in-american-business-isidor-straus-professor-of-business-history-emeritus-alfred-dupont-chandler/1232ccd5ecda54c5?ean=9780674940529&next=t
- The Social Responsibility of Business is to Increase its Profits — Milton Friedman, The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/1970/09/13/archives/a-friedman-doctrine-the-social-responsibility-of-business-is-to.html
- Ownership Works — An organization focused on providing all employees with a stake in the value they help https://ownershipworks.org/create
- Tech Workers Coalition (TWC) — A community of tech workers organizing for labor rights and ethical technology https://techworkerscoalition.org/
- Stone Butch Blues , Leslie Feinberg https://www.lesliefeinberg.net/
- The Invisible Hand, Adam Smith https://bookshop.org/beta-search?keywords=the+invisible+hand+adam+smith%27
- Working Class History Podcast https://workingclasshistory.com/podcasts/
- Corporate Erin https://www.instagram.com/corporate_erin/
CONNECT WITH US
Bachul Koul on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yashomati-bachul-koul/
Aparna on LinkedIn:linkedin.com/in/aparnarae
Lars on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/lars-gallien
Want to bring this conversation into your organization? Aparna and Lars speak at HR conferences, Fortune 1000 ERGs, and philanthropic foundations. Reach out at [email protected].
New episodes every week. Follow Circle Back Club so you never miss one.
E1. The Ick - Why Work Feels Worse?
You're not burned out because you're weak — you're burned out because the system was designed this way. This isn't a self-help episode. It's a reality check — and the beginning of something better.IN THIS …
Notes de l’épisode
You're not burned out because you're weak — you're burned out because the system was designed this way. This isn't a self-help episode. It's a reality check — and the beginning of something better.
IN THIS EPISODE
You already know something is wrong. Maybe it's the Sunday dread, or the way your stomach drops when your boss Slacks you at 9pm, or the creeping feeling that you've given everything to a job that could disappear tomorrow. In this first episode, Aparna and Lars name what most of us have been too scared, too busy, or too gaslit to say out loud. They dig into the real data on white collar layoffs and disengagement, expose the moral compromises baked into everyday corporate work — from Project Nimbus to ICE contracts — and get into what all of this is doing to our bodies, our families, and our democracy.
TAKE THIS WITH YOU
Listen to your body this week. In your next meeting, pause and ask yourself: what does my body feel right now? Notice your posture, your jaw, your breathing. You don't have to do anything with what you find — just track it. Your nervous system has been paying attention even when your brain checked out.
Name it to change it. This week, resist the urge to treat your work stress as a personal failing. The layoffs, the moral compromises, the exhaustion — none of it is because you aren't resilient enough. It's structural. And structural problems need collective responses.
RESOURCES
- Bullshit Jobs: A Theory — David Graeber. The anthropologist who argued that corporations have convinced us being busy is morally virtuous — and what that's done to us. https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Bullshit-Jobs/David-Graeber/9781501143335
- Ruined by Design — Mike Monteiro. The core idea: the world is working exactly as designed. If it's broken, that's on us. https://www.ruinedby.design
- No Tech for Apartheid — The worker-led campaign of Google and Amazon employees organizing against Project Nimbus. Follow them, support them. https://www.notechforapartheid.com
- Coworker Solidarity Fund — Financial support for the 50+ Google workers fired or arrested for protesting Project Nimbus. Donate here. https://coworkerfund.org/get-funded/googlers-fund-application
- Gallup: U.S. Employee Engagement Sinks to 10-Year Low — The data behind the decade-low engagement numbers: only 31% of U.S. workers engaged in 2024. https://www.gallup.com/workplace/654911/employee-engagement-sinks-year-low.aspx
- Gallup: State of the Global Workplace Report — The broader annual report on global engagement, wellbeing, and what it's costing us. https://www.gallup.com/workplace/349484/state-of-the-global-workplace.aspx
- Stanford Business School research on workplace mortality — Studies linking toxic workplace environments to over 120,000 deaths per year in the U.S. and 5–8% of annual healthcare costs. https://www.inc.com/scott-mautz/new-stanford-research-says-5th-leading-cause-of-death-is-workplace.html
- McKinsey Health Institute — Research showing toxic workplace behavior is the single largest predictor of negative employee outcomes — more than twice the impact of all positive practices combined. https://www.mckinsey.com/mhi/our-insights/present-company-included-prioritizing-mental-health-and-well-being-for-all
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Aparna on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/aparnarae
Lars on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/lars-gallien
Got an ick? Got a hope? We want to hear from workers. Send us your story — written or as an audio recording — to [email protected]. We'll weave your voice into the show.
Want to bring this conversation into your organization? Aparna and Lars speak at HR conferences, Fortune 1000 ERGs, and philanthropic foundations. [email protected]
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Season 1 Trailer
The Circle Back Club envisions a future of work grounded in community, wellbeing, dignity, and care instead of endless financial growth and burnout. When you join the Circle Back Club, you’re joining a …
Notes de l’épisode
The Circle Back Club envisions a future of work grounded in community, wellbeing, dignity, and care instead of endless financial growth and burnout. When you join the Circle Back Club, you’re joining a community committed to challenging the status quo. We’re circling back and asking the tough questions, like: “what if it didn’t have to be this way?”
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Aparna on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/aparnarae
Lars on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lars-gallien
Want to bring this conversation into your organization? Aparna and Lars speaks at HR conferences, Fortune 1000 ERGs, and philanthropic foundations. [email protected]
New episodes every week. Follow Circle Back Club so you never miss one.
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