Money Stuff: The Podcast
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- 13 Nov 2026
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The audio companion to Bloomberg Opinion’s beloved Money Stuff column hosted by its author Matt Levine, “whose deadpan style mixes technical elucidation and wit” (NY Times). Once a week, Matt and his friend, Bloomberg News reporter and TV host Katie Greifeld, talk about Wall Street, finance and…other stuff. New episodes every Friday.
Épisodes 123
Loser Mentality
Matt, guest host Mary Childs, and special guest Matt's daughter discuss the market for Pokémon cards, and then just Matt and Mary discuss Jensen Huang, history's most expensive extramarital affairs, AI honey …
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Matt, guest host Mary Childs, and special guest Matt's daughter discuss the market for Pokémon cards, and then just Matt and Mary discuss Jensen Huang, history's most expensive extramarital affairs, AI honey pots, the Anthropic IPO, a 50/50 mix of SI and AI, and what stocks LLMs tell people to buy.
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Friend Acquisition Rate
Matt and guest host Mary Childs discuss Matt's bedtime, the prediction market information environment, data center moratoria, X risk, sneezing in a fab, the demise of Weil Gotshal, making new friends at work …
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Matt and guest host Mary Childs discuss Matt's bedtime, the prediction market information environment, data center moratoria, X risk, sneezing in a fab, the demise of Weil Gotshal, making new friends at work, Matt’s alternative life as a law firm partner, canceling plans due to North Korea, the Binance hack, reversible crypto transactions and money-laundering slippage.
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Artisanal Human Money Stuff Podcast
Matt and guest host Max Abelson discuss Max's impending fatherhood, misanthropy, philanthropy, miracles, human extinction, three levels of AI worry, whether Roko's basilisk is securities fraud, non-GAAP …
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Matt and guest host Max Abelson discuss Max's impending fatherhood, misanthropy, philanthropy, miracles, human extinction, three levels of AI worry, whether Roko's basilisk is securities fraud, non-GAAP accounting, the role of Money Stuff in a post-AGI world, baskets of options, options on a basket, proper corporate governance at Tesla and SpaceX, meditation and onions.
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Tice Brown
Matt talks with Tice Brown, a guy, about good emails, the DAT craze, gambling proxies, non-cross-collateralized leverage, rolling calls, dinosaur fossils, bid/ask spreads in the art market, defeasing weirdo …
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Matt talks with Tice Brown, a guy, about good emails, the DAT craze, gambling proxies, non-cross-collateralized leverage, rolling calls, dinosaur fossils, bid/ask spreads in the art market, defeasing weirdo bonds, windfall-based pricing, lawyers vs. attorneys, Nebraska insurance regulation, Arkansas banking regulation, SpaceX/Tesla, Nasdaq valuation, starting investment banking in 2007 and the value of his time.
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Release Me From This Demon
Matt and guest co-host Mary Childs discuss sports betting, swap regulation, mention markets, flat waffles, gambling in your brokerage account, the rise of prime brokerage, relationship businesses, holding bags …
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Matt and guest co-host Mary Childs discuss sports betting, swap regulation, mention markets, flat waffles, gambling in your brokerage account, the rise of prime brokerage, relationship businesses, holding bags when hedge funds have oopsies, narrower banking, Matt's lack of hand-wringing, Kelly Clarkson and the animatronic bird, Martin Shkreli’s various comeuppances and short-selling metaphysics.
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Jeremy Maletz
Matt talks to Jeremy Maletz, head of prediction markets at Susquehanna International Group, about hedging goat herder risk, flow versus bespoke trading, election factor hedging, adverse selection, correlation …
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Matt talks to Jeremy Maletz, head of prediction markets at Susquehanna International Group, about hedging goat herder risk, flow versus bespoke trading, election factor hedging, adverse selection, correlation in prediction markets, and transitioning from sports gambling to trillion-dollar data center credit derivatives.
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Reintegration With the Default World
Matt and guest host Mary Childs discuss Baby Stuff: The Podcast, 351 exchange ETFs, substance over form, agentic bank runs, doing things for points, getting the Burn you need, seizing control of the company …
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Matt and guest host Mary Childs discuss Baby Stuff: The Podcast, 351 exchange ETFs, substance over form, agentic bank runs, doing things for points, getting the Burn you need, seizing control of the company Slack, cotton market manipulation, paperwork and potential securities-fraud liability for destroying humanity.
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Re-run: Midnight Madness: Ryan Patch and Jon Seale
Ahead of Midnight Madness 2026, we revisit our May 2025 episode, when Katie and Matt spoke with Ryan Patch and Jon Seale of Great Gotham Challenge about building puzzle hunts for the hedge fund manager who has …
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Ahead of Midnight Madness 2026, we revisit our May 2025 episode, when Katie and Matt spoke with Ryan Patch and Jon Seale of Great Gotham Challenge about building puzzle hunts for the hedge fund manager who has everything.
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Trying to Save the World Is No Excuse
Matt and guest co-host Silvia Killingsworth discuss late-summer nostalgia, Susquehanna's 100 Johns Doe, hedging options market making, nervously walking back and forth at the frontier, the economic and/or human …
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Matt and guest co-host Silvia Killingsworth discuss late-summer nostalgia, Susquehanna's 100 Johns Doe, hedging options market making, nervously walking back and forth at the frontier, the economic and/or human extinction benefits of slowing AI training, writing about AI vs. AI writing, psychological liquidity mismatches and putting pensions back into 401(k)s.
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What's the Concern?
Matt and guest host Max Abelson discuss money and power, Kawhi Leonard, independent investigations, the DAT trade, why anyone talks to us, the aesthetic appreciation of finance, Robinhood vs. AMC, meme-stock …
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Matt and guest host Max Abelson discuss money and power, Kawhi Leonard, independent investigations, the DAT trade, why anyone talks to us, the aesthetic appreciation of finance, Robinhood vs. AMC, meme-stock bazaars, Cede & Co., stock ledgers on the blockchain, Grayson Moorhead Securities, heists of bearer securities, the Apollo premium, geniality league tables and contextually appropriate “oohs.”
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Learn More Gooder
Matt and guest host Mary Childs discuss CDS gossip, suboptimal mortgage refinancing, cheap options, shopping for savings accounts, billing by the hour, AI and the apprenticeship model, second-price auctions …
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Matt and guest host Mary Childs discuss CDS gossip, suboptimal mortgage refinancing, cheap options, shopping for savings accounts, billing by the hour, AI and the apprenticeship model, second-price auctions, chandelier bidding, the IVV to VOO pipeline, rich person trades vs. hedge fund trades and how much we all miss Katie.
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Re-Run: Boaz Weinstein
Matt and Katie talked in March to Boaz Weinstein of Saba Capital Management about his tenders for OBDC II and SREIT, semi-liquid fund liquidity, reflexivity, the lure of permanent capital, private credit NAVs …
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Matt and Katie talked in March to Boaz Weinstein of Saba Capital Management about his tenders for OBDC II and SREIT, semi-liquid fund liquidity, reflexivity, the lure of permanent capital, private credit NAVs, public vs. private BDC discounts, preserving brand value, volatility laundering, howling at the moon, bowling and, why not, DATs.
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No Kiddie Pool
Matt and guest co-host Silvia Killingsworth discuss the Situational Awareness situation, record dates, CVRs, and sourcing weird volatility risk from retail customers to sell to hedge funds.See …
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Matt and guest co-host Silvia Killingsworth discuss the Situational Awareness situation, record dates, CVRs, and sourcing weird volatility risk from retail customers to sell to hedge funds.
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Worried Noises
Katie and Matt discuss 351 exchanges, the Gabe Plotkin ETF, the two laws of tax, tax code is not quite law, Gary Gensler’s cell phone, crypto vs. the SEC, the Truth API, nuclear fusion, sports indexes and ETFs …
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Katie and Matt discuss 351 exchanges, the Gabe Plotkin ETF, the two laws of tax, tax code is not quite law, Gary Gensler’s cell phone, crypto vs. the SEC, the Truth API, nuclear fusion, sports indexes and ETFs of 351 ETFs of ETFs.
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Animal Communicator
Katie and Matt discuss Katie’s animals’ feelings, sports gambling ETFs, Matt’s SEC comment, active ETF management, South Korean regulatory regrets, perfect distilled margin debt, Strategy’s software business …
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Katie and Matt discuss Katie’s animals’ feelings, sports gambling ETFs, Matt’s SEC comment, active ETF management, South Korean regulatory regrets, perfect distilled margin debt, Strategy’s software business and SpaceX’s stock price.
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Paid in Eggs
Katie and Matt discuss Katie's baby shower, No Elon ETFs, index preferences, ETFs as performance art, index rebalancing, liquidity provision, averaging into the index, lockup supply vs. index demand, egg …
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Katie and Matt discuss Katie's baby shower, No Elon ETFs, index preferences, ETFs as performance art, index rebalancing, liquidity provision, averaging into the index, lockup supply vs. index demand, egg manipulation, bird flu and everything-is-securities-fraud lawsuits.
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100 John Does
Katie and Matt discuss sports, the weather, lobster cake, getting picked off by insider traders, the retail options casino, limiting sharp bettors, sports gambling ETFs, weird ETFs generally, bad vibes at …
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Katie and Matt discuss sports, the weather, lobster cake, getting picked off by insider traders, the retail options casino, limiting sharp bettors, sports gambling ETFs, weird ETFs generally, bad vibes at Strategy, Bitcoin leverage and ChatGPT security design.
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One Big Blob of Elon
Katie and Matt discuss summer vacation, SpaceX/Tesla, Elon Musk re-conglomeration, MacroHard, Meta prediction markets, human social behavior, Farmville, AI engagement, base revealed preferences, private credit …
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Katie and Matt discuss summer vacation, SpaceX/Tesla, Elon Musk re-conglomeration, MacroHard, Meta prediction markets, human social behavior, Farmville, AI engagement, base revealed preferences, private credit redemptions, monthly liquidity and BDC arbitrage.
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Book of Souls
Katie and Matt discuss sports, mostly not SpaceX, alien capital markets, blinking, quality of earnings, hedge fund heroes, keeping a stegosaurus in your living room, the Book of Souls, capacity constraints …
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Katie and Matt discuss sports, mostly not SpaceX, alien capital markets, blinking, quality of earnings, hedge fund heroes, keeping a stegosaurus in your living room, the Book of Souls, capacity constraints, ruthless self-examination, market structure sickos, the trade-through rule, speed bumps and tokenization.
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Strongly Worded Letters
Katie and Matt discuss the pricing of the SpaceX IPO, cash-settled derivatives gambling, S&P’s no-fast-tracking decision, index divergence, active-management benchmarking, SpaceX ESG, federal sports gambling …
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Katie and Matt discuss the pricing of the SpaceX IPO, cash-settled derivatives gambling, S&P’s no-fast-tracking decision, index divergence, active-management benchmarking, SpaceX ESG, federal sports gambling regulation, Matt’s future coaching Little League, market integrity, brawls, everything is an assassination market, Boaz Weinstein’s day in the Supreme Court and not the trade-through rule.
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Champagne and Caviar
Katie and Matt discuss the Knicks, the Jeffrey, hedging sports bets with sports bets, Google selling some stock, net equity issuance, taxes on stock vesting, Andrew Left, how long you have to be short, the …
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Katie and Matt discuss the Knicks, the Jeffrey, hedging sports bets with sports bets, Google selling some stock, net equity issuance, taxes on stock vesting, Andrew Left, how long you have to be short, the decline of activist short selling and not saying dumb stuff in email.
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Shameful Secret Heart
Katie and Matt discuss the SpaceX IPO, enterprise AI, Mars colonies, the Elon Musk premium, consternation about indexes, a no-Elon index, closet indexing, price-insensitive IPO demand, unconstrained Elon Musk …
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Katie and Matt discuss the SpaceX IPO, enterprise AI, Mars colonies, the Elon Musk premium, consternation about indexes, a no-Elon index, closet indexing, price-insensitive IPO demand, unconstrained Elon Musk, Robinhood AI agents, the universal wrapper for trade ideas, invisible transaction costs, the Drug Olympics, 10% of Fernando Tatis Jr., a venture portfolio of minor leaguers, hedging career risk and hitting two grand slams in the same inning.
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Frisky Dentists
Katie and Matt discuss GameStop buying (?) eBay, authorized shares, socks, activism, negging, CDOs, CLOs, structured finance innovations, trading private credit, daily pricing, bad ways to own Anthropic stock …
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Katie and Matt discuss GameStop buying (?) eBay, authorized shares, socks, activism, negging, CDOs, CLOs, structured finance innovations, trading private credit, daily pricing, bad ways to own Anthropic stock, suing dentists and human assembly lines.
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Timeless Wisdom: A Mailbag Episode
Katie and Matt discuss financial advisers, a little scooch of private credit, finance book recommendations, call options on time, expected returns, seating charts, rain creating liquidity, E and S vs. G, the …
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Katie and Matt discuss financial advisers, a little scooch of private credit, finance book recommendations, call options on time, expected returns, seating charts, rain creating liquidity, E and S vs. G, the church of capital allocation, the market for corporate control and corporate vs. human life cycles.
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Bag of Snakes
Katie and Matt discuss the downsides of home ownership, hedge fund managers who had a somewhat disappointing week, Pershing Square USA, the physics of closed-end funds, publicly listed hedge fund firms, the pod …
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Katie and Matt discuss the downsides of home ownership, hedge fund managers who had a somewhat disappointing week, Pershing Square USA, the physics of closed-end funds, publicly listed hedge fund firms, the pod shop business, the psychology of investors in non-traded BDCs, the Avis short squeeze, Section 16 short-swing profits and earnings call body language.
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Economic Animals
Katie and Matt discuss bringing children to work, the weather in one corner of Charles de Gaulle airport, an infinite surface for market manipulation, bespoke parametric insurance, the Avis Budget short squeeze …
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Katie and Matt discuss bringing children to work, the weather in one corner of Charles de Gaulle airport, an infinite surface for market manipulation, bespoke parametric insurance, the Avis Budget short squeeze (maybe), the meme-stock playbook, SpaceX buying Cursor (maybe), SpaceX buying Tesla (maybe???), dual-class stock, robot armies annihilating each other off the shoulder of Orion, the word “gazumping” and the hedge fund hiring market.
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Hour of Slurping
Katie and Matt discuss the weather, NewBird AI, Long Blockchain, floating-strike convertible financing, meme AI diversification, dot AI, the meme ETF, public listing option value, shareholder voting, Exxon’s …
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Katie and Matt discuss the weather, NewBird AI, Long Blockchain, floating-strike convertible financing, meme AI diversification, dot AI, the meme ETF, public listing option value, shareholder voting, Exxon’s grudges, comptroller trolling, the horrifying sounds of coffee grading, spot vs. futures commodity quality and banks foreclosing on shrimp to eat it.
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Humiliation Ritual
Katie and Matt discuss Satoshi Nakamoto, spotting liars, Katie being a witch, Bill Ackman doing stuff, Universal Music Group, SPARCs, asymmetric derivatives trades, Matt’s dream money management career …
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Katie and Matt discuss Satoshi Nakamoto, spotting liars, Katie being a witch, Bill Ackman doing stuff, Universal Music Group, SPARCs, asymmetric derivatives trades, Matt’s dream money management career, doomsday funds, Elon Musk’s big thing, the SpaceX IPO, Grok for bankers, humiliating IPO pitches and some ETF stuff for the ETF fans.
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Also Sticky
Katie and Matt discuss conferences, baby names, private credit redemption requests, liquidity confusion, private credit inflows, Larry Fink’s annual letter, AI taking all the jobs, universal basic index funds …
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Katie and Matt discuss conferences, baby names, private credit redemption requests, liquidity confusion, private credit inflows, Larry Fink’s annual letter, AI taking all the jobs, universal basic index funds, podcasters and fund managers being displaced by AI, shorting the consumer economy, owning everything, the coming SpaceX IPO, lockups, index fast-tracking, a SpaceX treasury company and Elon Musk no longer being amused by 420.
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Boaz Weinstein
Matt and Katie talk to Boaz Weinstein of Saba Capital Management about his tenders for OBDC II and SREIT, semi-liquid fund liquidity, reflexivity, the lure of permanent capital, private credit NAVs, public vs …
Notes de l’épisode
Matt and Katie talk to Boaz Weinstein of Saba Capital Management about his tenders for OBDC II and SREIT, semi-liquid fund liquidity, reflexivity, the lure of permanent capital, private credit NAVs, public vs. private BDC discounts, preserving brand value, volatility laundering, howling at the moon, bowling and, why not, DATs.
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