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The Big Dig Season 4: Mitt & Ted, a healthcare story

Épisode 1The Big Dig | 1. We Were Wrong27 septembre 2023 · 54 min
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“This is a town where there are three pastimes: politics, sports and revenge.” The town is Boston.

Seemingly dry topics become gripping political dramas in this Peabody Award winning show from creator Ian Coss and GBH News. Each season of “The Big Dig” uncovers a different facet of society – infrastructure, gambling, food, healthcare – together the pieces connect to tell the story of modern America.

Have a question for the Big Dig team? Submit it here by December 31, 2026, to be featured in an upcoming episode.

Season 1: "The Big Dig"

The highway project known as “The Big Dig” is infamous – a shorthand for government failure – but it all started as one engineer’s dream to correct the wrongs of the past, and its legacy is far from simple.

Season 2: "Scratch & Win"

America’s most successful state lottery – and its greatest innovation, the scratch ticket – all starts with mafia bookmakers and state bureaucrats going toe to toe in a battle to own the future of gambling.

Season 3: "Catching The Codfather"

A fishing tycoon is arrested in an elaborate sting operation, but claims he’s the real hero fighting back against the state.

Season 4: "Mitt & Ted, a healthcare story"

Mitt Romney and Ted Kennedy began their political journeys on opposite sides of the healthcare issue, and they ended once again on opposite sides, but for a brief period in the middle they worked together to pass a groundbreaking law – one that promised to finally transform the politics of American healthcare – the law known as Romneycare. So what brought this odd couple together, and what ultimately pulled Mitt and Ted apart?

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CREDITS:

Host & Creator: Ian Coss

Executive Producer: Devin Maverick Robins

Producer: Isabel Hibbard

Story Editor: Lacy Roberts

Contact us as [email protected]

Épisodes 61

  1. Mitt & Ted | 8. The People's Seat

    56 minSaison 4 · Épisode 8

    Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat becomes the final battle ground for healthcare reform – and the focus of Americans’ outrage on the issue. Meanwhile, Mitt Romney must reckon with his own record as he begins his run …

    Notes de l’épisode

    Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat becomes the final battle ground for healthcare reform – and the focus of Americans’ outrage on the issue. Meanwhile, Mitt Romney must reckon with his own record as he begins his run for President.

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    Have a question for the Big Dig team? Submit it here by December 31, 2026, and it might get featured in an upcoming episode.

    Credits:

    Host and Scriptwriter: Ian Coss

    Executive Producer: Devin Maverick Robins

    Producers: Isabel Hibbard and Ian Coss

    Story Editor: Lacy Roberts

    Editorial Advisor: Azita Ghahramani

    Fact-checkers: Ryan Alderman and Isabel Hibbard

    Scoring and Music Supervision: Ian Coss

    Graphic Design: Bill Miller

  2. Mitt & Ted | 7. Death Panels

    1 h 1 minSaison 4 · Épisode 7

    In 2009, the moment for national healthcare reform has arrived, and there is hope that just like in Massachusetts, the effort can be bipartisan. But as negotiations begin in Washington, the politics outside the …

    Notes de l’épisode

    In 2009, the moment for national healthcare reform has arrived, and there is hope that just like in Massachusetts, the effort can be bipartisan. But as negotiations begin in Washington, the politics outside the capital are shifting fast.

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    Have a question for the Big Dig team? Submit it here by December 31, 2026, and it might get featured in an upcoming episode.

    Credits:

    Host and Scriptwriter: Ian Coss

    Executive Producer: Devin Maverick Robins

    Producers: Isabel Hibbard and Ian Coss

    Story Editor: Lacy Roberts

    Editorial Advisor: Azita Ghahramani

    Fact-checkers: Ryan Alderman and Isabel Hibbard

    Scoring and Music Supervision: Ian Coss

    Graphic Design: Bill Miller

  3. Mitt & Ted | 6. The Massachusetts Plan

    56 minSaison 4 · Épisode 6

    Immediately ‘Romneycare’ becomes the template for national healthcare reform. And while Democrats are focused on replicating the successes of the plan, there are already cracks showing in the coalition that …

    Notes de l’épisode

    Immediately ‘Romneycare’ becomes the template for national healthcare reform. And while Democrats are focused on replicating the successes of the plan, there are already cracks showing in the coalition that came together to pass it.

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    Have a question for the Big Dig team? Submit it here by December 31, 2026, and it might get featured in an upcoming episode.

    Credits:

    Host and Scriptwriter: Ian Coss

    Executive Producer: Devin Maverick Robins

    Producers: Isabel Hibbard and Ian Coss

    Story Editor: Lacy Roberts

    Editorial Advisor: Azita Ghahramani

    Fact-checkers: Ryan Alderman and Isabel Hibbard

    Scoring and Music Supervision: Ian Coss

    Graphic Design: Bill Miller

  4. Mitt & Ted | 5. A Thousand Fathers

    1 hSaison 4 · Épisode 5

    Time is running out for Massachusetts to pass healthcare reform. The bill’s fate now rests with the two old friends who run the state legislature and control everything that happens there. Unfortunately, these …

    Notes de l’épisode

    Time is running out for Massachusetts to pass healthcare reform. The bill’s fate now rests with the two old friends who run the state legislature and control everything that happens there. Unfortunately, these old friends have stopped talking.

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    Have a question for the Big Dig team? Submit it here by December 31, 2026, and it might get featured in an upcoming episode.

    Credits:

    Host and Scriptwriter: Ian Coss

    Executive Producer: Devin Maverick Robins

    Producers: Isabel Hibbard and Ian Coss

    Story Editor: Lacy Roberts

    Editorial Advisor: Azita Ghahramani

    Fact-checkers: Ryan Alderman and Isabel Hibbard

    Scoring and Music Supervision: Ian Coss

    Graphic Design: Bill Miller

  5. Mitt & Ted | 4. Three-Legged Stool

    56 minSaison 4 · Épisode 4

    The controversial centerpiece of the Affordable Care Act – the requirement for all Americans to purchase health insurance – began its strange political journey at the conservative Heritage Foundation. In deep …

    Notes de l’épisode

    The controversial centerpiece of the Affordable Care Act – the requirement for all Americans to purchase health insurance – began its strange political journey at the conservative Heritage Foundation. In deep blue Massachusetts the mandate was considered a fringe idea, until it lands on Governor Romney’s desk.

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    Credits:

    Host and Scriptwriter: Ian Coss

    Executive Producer: Devin Maverick Robins

    Producers: Isabel Hibbard and Ian Coss

    Story Editor: Lacy Roberts

    Editorial Advisor: Azita Ghahramani

    Fact-checkers: Ryan Alderman and Isabel Hibbard

    Scoring and Music Supervision: Ian Coss

    Graphic Design: Bill Miller

  6. Mitt & Ted | 3. Save The Money

    52 minSaison 4 · Épisode 3

    After their bruising senate campaign, Kennedy and Romney reunite for a mission to lobby the Bush administration. At stake: more than a billion dollars of federal money that is propping up the state’s entire …

    Notes de l’épisode

    After their bruising senate campaign, Kennedy and Romney reunite for a mission to lobby the Bush administration. At stake: more than a billion dollars of federal money that is propping up the state’s entire healthcare system.

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    Have a question for the Big Dig team? Submit it here by December 31, 2026, and it might get featured in an upcoming episode.

    Credits:

    Host and Scriptwriter: Ian Coss

    Executive Producer: Devin Maverick Robins

    Producers: Isabel Hibbard and Ian Coss

    Story Editor: Lacy Roberts

    Editorial Advisor: Azita Ghahramani

    Fact-checkers: Ryan Alderman and Isabel Hibbard

    Scoring and Music Supervision: Ian Coss

    Graphic Design: Bill Miller

  7. Mitt & Ted | 1. My Greatest Regret

    26 minSaison 4 · Épisode 1

    In the midst of the Watergate scandal, Richard Nixon reaches out to his rival Ted Kennedy and offers him a deal – a one time chance to reshape American healthcare, which might also save Nixon’s doomed …

    Notes de l’épisode

    In the midst of the Watergate scandal, Richard Nixon reaches out to his rival Ted Kennedy and offers him a deal – a one time chance to reshape American healthcare, which might also save Nixon’s doomed presidency. Will the young senator take the deal?

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    Have a question for the Big Dig team? Submit it here by December 31, 2026, and it might get featured in an upcoming episode.

    Credits:

    Host and Scriptwriter: Ian Coss

    Executive Producer: Devin Maverick Robins

    Producers: Isabel Hibbard and Ian Coss

    Story Editor: Lacy Roberts

    Editorial Advisor: Azita Ghahramani

    Fact-checkers: Ryan Alderman and Isabel Hibbard

    Scoring and Music Supervision: Ian Coss

    Graphic Design: Bill Miller

  8. Mitt & Ted | 2. There's Got To Be A Better Way

    53 minSaison 4 · Épisode 2

    Mitt Romney’s first political campaign was not for president or governor; it was for the U.S. Senate, and it was against Ted Kennedy. Early on the challenger looks unstoppable – handsome, eloquent, moderate …

    Notes de l’épisode

    Mitt Romney’s first political campaign was not for president or governor; it was for the U.S. Senate, and it was against Ted Kennedy. Early on the challenger looks unstoppable – handsome, eloquent, moderate – then the Kennedy camp starts digging into Romney’s past.

    Special thanks to FRONTLINE for archival sound from The Long March of Newt Gingrich & The Health Care Gamble.

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    Have a question for the Big Dig team? Submit it here by December 31, 2026, and it might get featured in an upcoming episode.

    Credits:

    Host and Scriptwriter: Ian Coss

    Executive Producer: Devin Maverick Robins

    Producers: Isabel Hibbard and Ian Coss

    Story Editor: Lacy Roberts

    Editorial Advisor: Azita Ghahramani

    Fact-checkers: Ryan Alderman and Isabel Hibbard

    Scoring and Music Supervision: Ian Coss

    Graphic Design: Bill Miller

  9. Introducing Season Four: Mitt & Ted, a healthcare story

    5 minSaison 4Bande-annonce

    Healthcare is the problem American politics cannot solve. It’s the subject of screaming matches at town halls, the cause of the longest government shutdown in U.S. history, the justification for political …

    Notes de l’épisode

    Healthcare is the problem American politics cannot solve. It’s the subject of screaming matches at town halls, the cause of the longest government shutdown in U.S. history, the justification for political assassination in cold blood. But how did our most basic need become such a divisive issue?

    In Season Four of The Big Dig podcast, "Mitt & Ted", we tell the origin story of national healthcare reform. Mitt Romney and Ted Kennedy began their political journeys on opposite sides of the issue, and they ended once again on opposite sides, but for a brief period in the middle they worked together to pass a groundbreaking law – one that promised to finally transform the politics of American healthcare – the law known as Romneycare. So, what brought this odd couple together and what ultimately pulled them apart?

    For early access to episodes, join The Big Dig membership program. Learn more at wgbh.org/hovlane.

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    Credits:

    Host and Scriptwriter: Ian Coss

    Executive Producer: Devin Maverick Robins

    Producers: Isabel Hibbard and Ian Coss

    Story Editor: Lacy Roberts

    Editorial Advisor: Azita Ghahramani

    Fact-checkers: Ryan Alderman and Isabel Hibbard

    Scoring and Music Supervision: Ian Coss

    Graphic Design: Bill Miller

  10. Two Planes Are Off The Radar

    46 minSaison 3 · Épisode 11Bonus

    September 11th changed the world forever; but in particular, it changed airports. In this special episode of The Big Dig, we go inside the world of Logan Airport – the place where the 9/11 attacks began – to …

    Notes de l’épisode

    September 11th changed the world forever; but in particular, it changed airports. In this special episode of The Big Dig, we go inside the world of Logan Airport – the place where the 9/11 attacks began – to tell the story of how that day unfolded, and how it transformed everything from security screening and terminal design, to restaurants, lounges, and luxury boutiques.

  11. The Staten Island Problem

    36 min

    How do these things all connect: Wu-Tang Clan, Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump, and the largest garbage dump in the world? That story is the subject of a new series from the podcast Revisionist History called “The …

    Notes de l’épisode

    How do these things all connect: Wu-Tang Clan, Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump, and the largest garbage dump in the world? That story is the subject of a new series from the podcast Revisionist History called “The Staten Island Problem.” The series reconstructs the largest secession movement in the U.S. since the Civil War – how it nearly tore New York City apart, and how it foreshadows the politics of today. We bring you the first episode of the series: “The Mayor vs. the Borough President.” Find more episodes of Revisionist History: The Staten Island Problem wherever you get podcasts.

    Link: lnk.to/SIPDig

  12. Your Ultimate Big Dig Roadtrip Playlist

    42 minSaison 3 · Épisode 10Bonus

    Our show now has three seasons in the feed, and it just dawned on Ian that every topic we’ve covered also happens to be a rich topic in American song: highways, gambling, and fishing. So today we share a …

    Notes de l’épisode

    Our show now has three seasons in the feed, and it just dawned on Ian that every topic we’ve covered also happens to be a rich topic in American song: highways, gambling, and fishing. So today we share a special playlist curated by singer, songwriter and record collector Eli "Paperboy" Reed.

    Hear the full playlist here.

    Pre order 'Getting There' by Eli "Paperboy" Reed here.

  13. Highway Teardown Tour | 10. Providence, RI

    38 minSaison 1 · Épisode 20

    The Big Dig in Boston was a fluke, a unicorn, something we may never see again. But there are simpler and cheaper ways to rethink our urban highways – Providence, RI tried one. Guests: Edward Fitzpatrick, Zack …

    Notes de l’épisode

    The Big Dig in Boston was a fluke, a unicorn, something we may never see again. But there are simpler and cheaper ways to rethink our urban highways – Providence, RI tried one.

    Guests: Edward Fitzpatrick, Zack Cunha, Mike Lewis

    Recorded live with Globe Rhode Island at CIC Providence

    Hear the full Washington Bridge Blues playlist here

  14. Highway Teardown Tour | 11. Boston, MA

    41 minSaison 1 · Épisode 21

    The final chapter of the Big Dig story is what happened to the land after the highway was gone. Like the rest of the project, it was messy, and other cities would be wise to learn from it. Guests: Stephanie …

    Notes de l’épisode

    The final chapter of the Big Dig story is what happened to the land after the highway was gone. Like the rest of the project, it was messy, and other cities would be wise to learn from it.

    Guests: Stephanie Pollack, Chris Cook

    Recorded live at the MIT Museum

  15. Highway Teardown Tour | 9. Philadelphia, PA

    43 minSaison 1 · Épisode 19

    Even as cities try to heal the damage of the interstate era, we are also continuing to expand our urban highways, continuing to turn parks and neighborhoods into new lanes and new off-ramps. So why is it so …

    Notes de l’épisode

    Even as cities try to heal the damage of the interstate era, we are also continuing to expand our urban highways, continuing to turn parks and neighborhoods into new lanes and new off-ramps. So why is it so hard to stop?

    Guests: Inga Saffron, Daniel Pearson, Leslie Richards

    Recorded at The Pen & Pencil Club with support from Miles Bryan and Tom Grahsler

  16. Highway Teardown Tour | 8. Baltimore, MD

    43 minSaison 1 · Épisode 18

    This episode is about a very different kind of teardown – one that came suddenly, tragically, and without warning. But within this utterly unique story there are some universal questions about how we build for …

    Notes de l’épisode

    This episode is about a very different kind of teardown – one that came suddenly, tragically, and without warning. But within this utterly unique story there are some universal questions about how we build for the present and the future.

    Guests: Johnny Olszewski, Samantha Biddle, Wambui Kamau, Arkia Wade, Klaus Philipsen

    Recorded live with WYPR at the Baltimore Museum of Industry.

  17. Highway Teardown Tour | 7. Louisville, KY

    31 minSaison 1 · Épisode 17

    In the stories we tell about public works, there is a constant bias towards the projects that actually happened, but it’s the apparently ‘failed’ projects that can often teach us the most. Guests: Marcus Green …

    Notes de l’épisode

    In the stories we tell about public works, there is a constant bias towards the projects that actually happened, but it’s the apparently ‘failed’ projects that can often teach us the most.

    Guests: Marcus Green, Tyler Allen, Ken Herndon

    Recorded live with LPM at the LPM Performance Studio.

  18. Highway Teardown Tour | 6. Portland, OR

    45 minSaison 1 · Épisode 16

    The anti-highway movement, like any movement, has always been a coalition. Different people with different backgrounds and different interests finding a common cause. But sometimes the coalition cracks. Guests …

    Notes de l’épisode

    The anti-highway movement, like any movement, has always been a coalition. Different people with different backgrounds and different interests finding a common cause. But sometimes the coalition cracks.

    Guests: Lillian Karabaic, Shawn Granton, Sharon Gary-Smith, Chris Smith

    Recorded live with Oregon Public Broadcasting at Literary Arts in East Portland.

  19. Highway Teardown Tour | 5. Seattle, WA

    35 minSaison 1 · Épisode 15

    There is exactly one other American city crazy enough to attempt anything like what Boston did with The Big Dig. That city is Seattle, and they are not done tearing down highways. Guests: Joshua McNichols, Greg …

    Notes de l’épisode

    There is exactly one other American city crazy enough to attempt anything like what Boston did with The Big Dig. That city is Seattle, and they are not done tearing down highways.

    Guests: Joshua McNichols, Greg Nickels, Cayce James, José Manuel Vasquez

    Recorded live with KUOW at the Seattle Public Library.

    Archival audio courtesy of the Seattle Municipal Archives

  20. Highway Teardown Tour | 4. Austin, TX

    33 minSaison 1 · Épisode 14

    How did the Austin City Council find themselves locked in a ‘death match’ over what to do about Interstate 35? Two councilors and two journalists talk through the fraught politics of so-called highway caps …

    Notes de l’épisode

    How did the Austin City Council find themselves locked in a ‘death match’ over what to do about Interstate 35? Two councilors and two journalists talk through the fraught politics of so-called highway caps.

    Guests: Megan Kimble, Nathan Bernier, José “Chito” Vela, Mike Siegel

    Recorded live at the KUT Festival in Austin, TX.

  21. Highway Teardown Tour | 3. Rochester, NY

    41 minSaison 1 · Épisode 13

    Once the highway is gone, can the divisions these structures created actually be healed? Can the people on either side become neighbors again? Rochester, NY is trying to answer that question.Guests: Erik …

    Notes de l’épisode

    Once the highway is gone, can the divisions these structures created actually be healed? Can the people on either side become neighbors again? Rochester, NY is trying to answer that question.

    Guests: Erik Frisch, Brian Sharp, Shawn Dunwoody, Suzanne Mayer

    Recorded live at the WXXI studios in Rochester, NY.

  22. Highway Teardown Tour | 2. Syracuse, NY

    48 minSaison 1 · Épisode 12

    Is it possible to re-write the Interstate map and send highways around cities instead of through them? Syracuse, NY is doing just that. Guests: Marie Therese Dominguez, Lanessa Owens-Chaplin, Joe …

    Notes de l’épisode

    Is it possible to re-write the Interstate map and send highways around cities instead of through them? Syracuse, NY is doing just that.

    Guests: Marie Therese Dominguez, Lanessa Owens-Chaplin, Joe Driscoll

    Recorded live in partnership with WRVO and the Syracuse Museum of Science and Technology.

  23. Highway Teardown Tour | 1. New York, NY

    52 minSaison 1 · Épisode 11

    What to do with the BQE? It’s a one of a kind highway in desperate need of repair, but no one can agree how to fix it. Guests: Polly Trottenberg, Lara Birnback, Stephen NessenRecorded live at WNYC’s …

    Notes de l’épisode

    What to do with the BQE? It’s a one of a kind highway in desperate need of repair, but no one can agree how to fix it.

    Guests: Polly Trottenberg, Lara Birnback, Stephen Nessen

    Recorded live at WNYC’s Greenspace.

    Archival audio courtesy of Municipal Archives, City of New York.

  24. Highway Teardown Tour | Enter Here

    7 minSaison 1 · Épisode 10

    Every American city is divided by crumbling old highways. Every city is trying to figure out what to do with them. But even if the problems with these structures are obvious, the solutions are not – often they …

    Notes de l’épisode

    Every American city is divided by crumbling old highways. Every city is trying to figure out what to do with them. But even if the problems with these structures are obvious, the solutions are not – often they are contentious. Welcome to The Big Dig Highway Teardown Tour.

  25. In search of the perfect lobster roll

    33 minSaison 3 · Épisode 9Bonus

    In the 1980s, six women on an island off the coast of Massachusetts began selling lobster rolls as a church fundraiser. Today, people travel by car, boat, and plane just to taste these hallowed summer treats …

    Notes de l’épisode

    In the 1980s, six women on an island off the coast of Massachusetts began selling lobster rolls as a church fundraiser. Today, people travel by car, boat, and plane just to taste these hallowed summer treats.

    Today we bring you an episode from one of our favorite food podcasts, “The Sporkful”, in which host Dan Pashman travels to Martha’s Vineyard to uncover Grace Church’s secret recipe. Plus, Daniel Gritzer from Serious Eats breaks down the science of why frozen lobster might be better than fresh.

    https://www.sporkful.com/the-secret-to-grace-churchs-lobster-rolls/

    Find more from The Sporkful, wherever you listen to podcasts or at www.sporkful.com

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    We talked a lot this season about fish: the cod, the haddock, the flounder. We heard about monk fish and grey sole, hake and halibut. But if you’ve ever spent a summer in New England, you know that if there is one food we take more seriously than our fish, it’s our shellfish.


    So today I’m excited to bring you an episode from one of my favorite podcasts – The Sporkful – in which host Dan Pashman travels to Martha’s Vineyard to uncover the secret recipe of his favorite lobster roll. Plus, Daniel Gritzer from Serious Eats breaks down the science of why frozen lobster might be better than fresh.

    As always, Dan and the team have a special knack for telling stories about food that also help you understand the world. You can find all their work wherever you are listening right now, just search for “The Sporkful.” And please enjoy: The Secret To Grace Church’s Lobster Rolls…


  26. What you need to know when buying fish, with Roger Berkowitz

    34 minSaison 3 · Épisode 8Bonus

    Buying fish can be a puzzling process. It comes frozen and fresh, wild and farmed, from many different countries, and with all kinds of ratings and labels. So what does it all mean?For this bonus episode to …

    Notes de l’épisode

    Buying fish can be a puzzling process. It comes frozen and fresh, wild and farmed, from many different countries, and with all kinds of ratings and labels. So what does it all mean?

    For this bonus episode to “Catching The Codfather,” Ian sits down with a legend of New England seafood, Roger Berkowitz, to talk about his life in fish buying and what he’s learned along the way.

    Major sponsorship for “Catching The Codfather” is provided by Roger’s Fish Co.

  27. Have we entered a new era for government regulation?

    43 minSaison 3 · Épisode 7Bonus

    John Vecchione represented a group of fishermen who challenged government regulations all the way to the Supreme Court. Together, they helped overturn the decades-old “Chevron Doctrine,” which has been cited …

    Notes de l’épisode

    John Vecchione represented a group of fishermen who challenged government regulations all the way to the Supreme Court. Together, they helped overturn the decades-old “Chevron Doctrine,” which has been cited thousands of times in federal court rulings. But Vecchione is not done, and you might be surprised to learn what regulations he is challenging next.

    For a very different take on the future of regulation after the fall of the Chevron Doctrine, check out this article from climate reporter Molly Taft: The Koch Brothers Are Getting What They Wanted: The Supreme Court Is Gutting Environmental Protections

  28. Catching The Codfather | 6. It’s Your Job to Catch Me

    1 h 8 minSaison 3 · Épisode 6

    A new revelation forces federal investigators to close down the case, fast. But what will taking down The Codfather mean for the port of New Bedford?Major sponsorship for "Catching The Codfather" is provided by …

    Notes de l’épisode

    A new revelation forces federal investigators to close down the case, fast. But what will taking down The Codfather mean for the port of New Bedford?

    Major sponsorship for "Catching The Codfather" is provided by Roger’s Fish Co.

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    Credits:

    Host and Scriptwriter: Ian Coss

    Executive Producer: Devin Maverick Robins

    Producers: Isabel Hibbard and Ian Coss

    Story Editor: Lacy Roberts

    Editorial Advisor: Jenifer McKim

    Fact-checkers: Ryan Alderman and Isabel Hibbard

    Intern: Fiona Boyd

    Scoring and Music Supervision: Ian Coss

    Graphic Design: Bill Miller

  29. Catching The Codfather | 5. Painting Fish

    1 h 1 minSaison 3 · Épisode 5

    When federal agents first meet with Carlos Rafael, the fishing mogul offers up a tantalizing clue: a special system for ‘painting fish.’ It’s the key to understanding the entire fraud, and why Carlos is the …

    Notes de l’épisode

    When federal agents first meet with Carlos Rafael, the fishing mogul offers up a tantalizing clue: a special system for ‘painting fish.’ It’s the key to understanding the entire fraud, and why Carlos is the only one who could pull it off.

    Major sponsorship for "Catching The Codfather" is provided by Roger’s Fish Co.

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    Credits:

    Host and Scriptwriter: Ian Coss

    Executive Producer: Devin Maverick Robins

    Producers: Isabel Hibbard and Ian Coss

    Story Editor: Lacy Roberts

    Editorial Advisor: Jenifer McKim

    Fact-checkers: Ryan Alderman and Isabel Hibbard

    Intern: Fiona Boyd

    Scoring and Music Supervision: Ian Coss

    Graphic Design: Bill Miller

  30. Catching The Codfather | 4. Mosquitos on the Balls of an Elephant

    53 minSaison 3 · Épisode 4

    A new regulatory system is meant to end overfishing, but Carlos Rafael exploits it to accumulate even more boats and power – drawing resentment from other fishermen, and attention from the feds. Major …

    Notes de l’épisode

    A new regulatory system is meant to end overfishing, but Carlos Rafael exploits it to accumulate even more boats and power – drawing resentment from other fishermen, and attention from the feds.

    Major sponsorship for "Catching The Codfather" is provided by Roger’s Fish Co.

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    Credits:

    Host and Scriptwriter: Ian Coss

    Executive Producer: Devin Maverick Robins

    Producers: Isabel Hibbard and Ian Coss

    Story Editor: Lacy Roberts

    Editorial Advisor: Jenifer McKim

    Fact-checkers: Ryan Alderman and Isabel Hibbard

    Intern: Fiona Boyd

    Scoring and Music Supervision: Ian Coss

    Graphic Design: Bill Miller

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