The Enneagram Journey
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Using the wisdom of the Enneagram, and ongoing discussion and conversation, we will grow compassion for ourselves and others, as well as a better understanding for why we do what we do!
Épisodes 205
E204: Jonathan (2) and B Chris (7) Part II - Enneagram and Ministry
Welcome back on the Journey! If you missed the first half of this conversation, go back to episode 203 and get to know B Chris (7) and Jonathan (2) a little better. In the latter half, the Reverend joins …
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Welcome back on the Journey!
If you missed the first half of this conversation, go back to episode 203 and get to know B Chris (7) and Jonathan (2) a little better.
In the latter half, the Reverend joins Suzanne, Jonathan, and B Chris to talk about life in ministry. The ups and downs, highs and lows.
PLUG TIME
Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to find out about what is coming up on Suzanne's teaching schedule and the LTM calendar! Including:
- The Contemplative Enneagram Summit
- Know Your Number with Suzanne the first weekend of October
- The Replanted Conference
The Enneagram Journey and Life In The Trinity Ministry are safe spaces for solitary work that cannot be done alone!
E203: Jonathan (2) and B Chris (7)
This is the first half of a fun, and deep, conversation! Meet longtime friends and working partners, Jonathan and B Chris. We've got 2 Twos and 2 Sevens talking, so you're gonna have to pick a side! Not really …
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This is the first half of a fun, and deep, conversation!
Meet longtime friends and working partners, Jonathan and B Chris.
We've got 2 Twos and 2 Sevens talking, so you're gonna have to pick a side! Not really of course.
They joined us at The Micah Center to talk about their working relationship, our responses to trauma, finding balance, and Tinder! Among other things.
PLUG TIME
Enneagram and Pickle Ball September 22nd!
Enneagram Know Your Number in Massachusetts!
Apply for the 2027 Enneagram Cohort Program!
The Contemplative Enneagram Summit!
Find even more at lifeinthetrinityministry.com !
E202: Enneagram 9s Unite!
Get a little Flashlight going for these three Enneagram 9s! If you are a 9, or love one, or want to love one better, give this a listen. Rev. Joe Stabile, Jeff Crosby, and Dr. Billy Schewee join Suzanne in this …
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Get a little Flashlight going for these three Enneagram 9s! If you are a 9, or love one, or want to love one better, give this a listen.
Rev. Joe Stabile, Jeff Crosby, and Dr. Billy Schewee join Suzanne in this episode to talk about Enneagram Nines and:
- Generational Differences
- Guilt and Shame
- Active vs. Passive Engagement
- Music and more!
PLUG TIME
Know Your Number with Suzanne Stabile in Boston is October 2-3!
Come hear the workshop that inspired the best selling book, The Road Back to You! Friday night and all day Saturday, packed with community, compassion, and understanding. Join us at The Parish of the Epiphany in Winchester. If you can't join in person, join online!
Music Samples in today's podcast:
- The Enneagram Journey theme song comes from Solveig Leithaug ft. Cindy Morgan, "Lift You Up"
- "Its Too Late" by Carole King (1971)
- "Blowin' in the Wind" by Chad Michell Trio (1963)
- "Today" by The Smashing Pumpkins (1993)
- "Father and Son" by Cat Stevens (1970)
E201: Jenn (7) and Josh (6) Hook - State It and Rate It
As you can tell from the intro, this is a great BLEEPING episode of The Journey! Meet Jenn and Josh, a 6 and 7 handling all that life throws at them. Miscarriages, Parenting, Replanted State it and Rate it Same …
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As you can tell from the intro, this is a great BLEEPING episode of The Journey!
Meet Jenn and Josh, a 6 and 7 handling all that life throws at them.
- Miscarriages, Parenting, Replanted
- State it and Rate it
- Same here paddles
- and more!
"Shame dies when stories are told in safe spaces." - Ann Voskamp
PLUG TIME
- 2026 Enneagram Bootcamp! July 30 - August 1 in Dallas or join online. Generational Enneagram with Suzanne Stabile and LTM
- Know Your Number in Boston! - October 2-3. Tell everyone you know to join. It is going to be. Awesome.
- Replanted Conference - You hear about it in the episode, now come be about it
- 2027 Enneagram Cohort Program - Now is the time to apply! 4 Cohorts with 40 spots for each one. Don't miss your chance to dive into the deep end of solitary work that cannot be done alone
And visit and subscribe to lifeinthetrinityministry.com for all things LTM and Enneagram Journey!
E200: June Q&A with The Enneagram Godmother
We finally figured out how to stream to both Facebook AND Instagram!! Thank you to everyone who joined live for this podcast recording. I (Joel) think we got to answer 13-15 questions, which is impressive for …
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We finally figured out how to stream to both Facebook AND Instagram!!
Thank you to everyone who joined live for this podcast recording.
I (Joel) think we got to answer 13-15 questions, which is impressive for us in a one hour segment. Hopefully we'll get to do these weekly moving forward.
PLUG TIME:
Enneagram Bootcamp 2026: Generational Enneagram
The coolest thing about Enneagram Bootcamp is seeing the bonds and relationships that build each year. We hope you'll be a part of this upcoming opportunity July 30 - Aug 1.
As you heard in the intro, stay hard David Black. A good dude, who lived a good life. Everyone who knew him will miss him. Joe and Suzanne will miss him. LTM will miss him.
E199: Live from Minneapolis with Courtney (7) and Rachel (4)
We are a little bummed that nobody mentioned Safety Dance in this conversation! That being said, this is a great conversation about dancing and ritual, the enneagram and our relationship with our bodies. This …
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We are a little bummed that nobody mentioned Safety Dance in this conversation!
That being said, this is a great conversation about dancing and ritual, the enneagram and our relationship with our bodies. This is Rachel's first time on the show, and Courtney is an Enneagram Journey veteran, and it probably isn't their last time sharing with our listeners.
We have a few clips of songs sprinkled throughout the show, and hope you enjoy all of them (or at least a couple!).
And don't forget to jump on over to lifeinthetrinityministry.com to see where Suzanne is teaching next and other opportunities with LTM and The Enneagram Journey!
Music in this episode
- Pink Pony Club by Chappell Roan
- Shine by Michael Franti & Spearhead
- One Day / Reckoning Song by Asaf Avidan & The Mojos
- Could I have This Dance by Anne Murray
- My Joy Is Heavy by The Bengsons
- The Molly B. Polka Party
E198: Live from Lemuria with Hunter (2) and Bradley (9)
Two of the podcast's favorite people join Suzanne and Joe at her favorite bookstore to do what she loves the most: talk relationships and enneagram! The listeners are probably familiar with Hunter from all of …
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Two of the podcast's favorite people join Suzanne and Joe at her favorite bookstore to do what she loves the most: talk relationships and enneagram!
The listeners are probably familiar with Hunter from all of his work with LTM, and now you get to meet his soon to be husband, Bradley Hickman. We get to hear what works and what struggles 9s and 2s have together.
PLUG TIME:
LTM has a new home, and we're working on updating a new and improved website. We have events coming up in Minnesota, California, Texas, and Massachusetts. The 2027 Cohort applications open May 1, and summer small groups are around the corner.
visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to join in the community!
E197: Will Schewee (4) - The Enneagram Goes to College
Meet the eldest of Suzanne's 9 grandchildren! William Alexander Schewee IV, enneagram 4, joins the show with his uncle and a couple of grandparents, including of course, the Enneagram Godmother. You'll learn …
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Meet the eldest of Suzanne's 9 grandchildren!
William Alexander Schewee IV, enneagram 4, joins the show with his uncle and a couple of grandparents, including of course, the Enneagram Godmother.
You'll learn about "Bros' Nights", the differences and similarities between fours and sevens, our different ways of connection including: how do you respond to people singing happy birthday to you?!
And remember, hope will not leave you disappointed!
PLUG TIME:
- Joey Stabile Schewee's new book, "When Working Together Doesn't Work" is now available everywhere books are sold! Grab your copy and show her some love with a review and rating.
- The Enneagram AND...marches on. Next up is Colorado Springs with the great KJ Ramsey and The Enneagram AND Trauma. Get your tickets to join in person or online by visiting lifeinthetrinityministry.com/enneagramand
E196: The Micah Center: a Eulogy
Join us in escorting The Micah Center on to the next plain. Suzanne, Joe, and Hunter sit down for one final conversation at The Micah Center, the home of LTM for the past 20 years. As you'll hear in the intro …
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Join us in escorting The Micah Center on to the next plain.
Suzanne, Joe, and Hunter sit down for one final conversation at The Micah Center, the home of LTM for the past 20 years.
As you'll hear in the intro, this episode is heavy on the "Journey" aspect of the podcast and light on any "enneagram" talk. Suzanne and Joe always are quick to say that the enneagram is just a tool. A GREAT tool, but just one. The Micah Center was so much more than a tool. It became a safe space for thousands of people to go to.
Stay hard Micah Center!
If The Micah Center means something to you, or had an impact on your life, we would love to hear about it. CLICK HERE to leave a voicemail sharing some Micah Center love or memories.
Ready to join the Enneagram AND tour 2026?! The first event is at the end of January, and we're continuing on into the summer.
The Enneagram AND Parenting
The Enneagram AND Spirituality
The Enneagram AND Truama
The Enneagram AND Your Body
The Enneagram AND Stress
Join live or join us virtually online for great teaching with a great group of teachers.
CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE ENNEAGRAM AND TOUR 2026 OR LEARN MORE
The Merton Prayer:
My Lord God, I have no idea where I am going
I do not see the road ahead of me
I cannot know for certain where it will end
Nor do I really know myself
And the fact that I think I am following your will does not mean
That I am actually doing so
But I believe that the desire to please you does in fact please you
And I hope I have that desire in all that I am doing I hope that I will never do anything apart from that desire
And I know that if I do this you will lead me by the right road
Though I may know nothing about it
Therefore will I trust you always though
I may seem to be lost and in the shadow of death
I will not fear, for you are ever with me
And you will never leave me to face my perils aloneToday's Intro:
- From the original Enneagram Journey Curriculum
- "Tha Crossroads" by Bone Thugs-N-Harmony (Ruthless)
- (outro) "I wouldn't take nothin' for my journey", Live at Studio C (Gaither Studios)
E195: Larissa Miller (4) and Kim Honeycutt (8) - Compassion, Confrontation, Authenticity
The Enneagram Journey may be recording next at your local Hilton! Maybe not, but this episode was fun to record at Joel's hotel room when LTM travelled to Charlotte, NC for a workshop. Kim Honeycutt (8) and …
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The Enneagram Journey may be recording next at your local Hilton! Maybe not, but this episode was fun to record at Joel's hotel room when LTM travelled to Charlotte, NC for a workshop. Kim Honeycutt (8) and Larissa Miller (4) join the show to talk about their relationship, their journey, justice, and what do you know about polyvagal theory?
You can find out more about what Kim and Larissa are up to at icutalks.org, watershedcharlotte.com and kimhoneycutt.com
PLUG TIME!!!!
The Enneagram AND 2026 Tour is around the corner!
The Enneagram and Parenting in Nashville, TN - The Enneagram and Spirituality in Jackson, MS - The Enneagram and Trauma in Colorado Springs, CO - The Enneagram and Your Body in Minneapolis, MN - The Enneagram and Stress in California.
Join us in person, or join us online virtually!
Get all of the important information and registration at lifeinthetrinityministry.com/enneagramand
Today's Intro:
- The Waterboy (1998, Touchstone Pictures)
- Bob's Burgers (s15, e1 FOX)
- Breaking Bad (s4, e6 AMC)
E194: Jess Everlee (5) - Lucky Lovers of London
Meet author and Enneagram 5, Jess Everlee! 4 books, one for the Head, one for the Heart, and one for the Body, and how about one featuring a couple of Sixes! Jess shares about figuring out her enneagram number …
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Meet author and Enneagram 5, Jess Everlee!
4 books, one for the Head, one for the Heart, and one for the Body, and how about one featuring a couple of Sixes!
Jess shares about figuring out her enneagram number, which ones are the easiest and most difficult for her to write, and about being married to an 8.
"I mistyped my own teen angst as a 4. But, since it was a mistype, it wasn't useful." - JE
All romance lovers need to check out her Lucky Lovers of London series, and you can learn more about Jess at jesseverlee.com
Joey Stabile Schewee - When Working Together Doesn't Work
LTM's very own Joey Stabile Schewee is back on The Journey! Gather everyone around the water cooler in the office and turn up the volume, because you and your team don't want to miss this episode. Joey …
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LTM's very own Joey Stabile Schewee is back on The Journey!
Gather everyone around the water cooler in the office and turn up the volume, because you and your team don't want to miss this episode. Joey, enneagram 8, the best enneagram teacher you'll find for the corporate setting shares with the listeners about her work.
- Which number mistypes the most?
- Which number is mistyped as the most?
- Who has the greatest difficulty managing others?
- What do you know about the 4th Step?
Her new book, When Working Together Doesn't Work, comes out in March, but it isn't too early to pre-order. You can pre-order your copy here. It also isn't too late to join us on Saturday, September 27th online or in Dallas to hear Joey teach! Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to learn more and sign up. And visit wesolutions.life to learn more about Joey and her corporate enneagram teaching.
TODAY'S INTRO
- Corporate (S1, E3 - Comedy Central)
- Office Space (1999, Mike Judge)
- Corporate (S2, E4 - Comedy Central)
Dr. Molly (8) - Anxiety, Egregious Self Confidence, Grief and Loss
Dr. Molly sayyyyyyyyys, you're gonna love this podcast! Welcome Dr. Molly Brinkmann to The Journey! Enneagram 8, married to an enneagram 6 (Ryan), mother, veterinarian, and social media bad ass. We get a good …
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Dr. Molly sayyyyyyyyys, you're gonna love this podcast!
Welcome Dr. Molly Brinkmann to The Journey! Enneagram 8, married to an enneagram 6 (Ryan), mother, veterinarian, and social media bad ass. We get a good amount of work talk in, co-parenting as an 8 and a 6, the anxiety of not only sixes, but all numbers, and more. Also a special spot appearance from fellow 8, Joey Schewee.
To learn more about Molly, be sure and give her instagram account a follow, @drmollysays and check out The Dr. Molly Says Podcast!
It is time to hear from Enneagram 8 listeners for a new episode of Others On The Journey! Suzanne and Molly talk about what betrayal means to them and to Eights. We would like to hear from our Enneagram 8 listeners on what betrayal means to you, and if you can give some examples. Visit theenneagramjourney.com/contact and leave a voicemail with your response for our next Others On The Journey podcast episode. Heck, this podcast is solitary work that we cannot do alone!
PLUG TIME
When Working Together Doesn't Work with Joey Schewee
Saturday, September 27 / 9:00 am - 4:00 pm
The Micah Center in Dallas or join Online
Join consultant and Enneagram Theorist, Joey Schewee of @enneagramparents, and co-facilitator of The Enneagram For The Modern World Cohort, ahead of the release of her book, When Working Together Doesn't Work: An Enneagram Guide to Productive Relationships with Coworkers, for a day of Enneagram exploration. Joey will guide participants through her impactful take on triads, stances, and the core of her unique body of work: processing centers. Whether you are new to the Enneagram or well-versed in this wisdom, this workshop is thoughtfully designed to give all participants takeaways that are immediately and exponentially applicable.
CLICK HERE TO REGISTER IN PERSON OR ONLINE
Pre-order your copy of When Working Together Doesn't Work here on Amazon
TODAY'S INTRO
- Anxiety by Doechii
- Mean Girls (Paramount Pictures, 2004)
- Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby (Columbia Pictures, 2006)
Austin Channing Brown (9) - Foreboding Joy, Full Of Myself
Welcome to The Journey Austin Channing Brown! Enneagram 9, Austin Channing shares some of her wisdom and experience in this episode, including what we think is a CRAZY story about her time as an enneagram 9 …
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Welcome to The Journey Austin Channing Brown!
Enneagram 9, Austin Channing shares some of her wisdom and experience in this episode, including what we think is a CRAZY story about her time as an enneagram 9 employed at a church.
- Decision Making
- Passive Aggressive Anger
- Repressed Doing
- Foreboding Joy and Artificial Joy (brace yourselves 7s!)
- I'm Still Here and Full Of Myself
Full Of Myself is available soon, so preorder today, and be sure to visit austinchanning.com !
Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to see everything that Suzanne, Joe, and LTM are up to.
- The LTM Enneagram Cohort Program application deadline is September 1!
- Small groups are about to begin, and the next round will start in December 2026
- Enneagram and Spirituality in Charlotte in September
- A Quiet Space every Thursday at The Micah Center
- and so much more!
Today's Intro
- Joy by for King + Country
- The Office (NBC, s2, e8)
- The Office (NBC, s7, e14)
Q&A - July 2025
Q&A Episode in the house! We start the show with a question from an Enneagram 7 married to an Enneagram 1 (that combo comes up a lot!). "Do I have to keep apologizing for the last 20 years every time I mess …
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Q&A Episode in the house!
We start the show with a question from an Enneagram 7 married to an Enneagram 1 (that combo comes up a lot!).
"Do I have to keep apologizing for the last 20 years every time I mess up?"
Then we get to talk about:
- 9s with an 8 wing, or are they extroverted, or are they another number?!
- Gut Types
- How each individual number in each Triad deals with Anger, Fear, or Shame
- Essence v Personality
- 9s and Anger
- and more!
Keep the questions coming! You can submit yours at theenneagramjourney.org/contact
PLUG TIME
Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com !
Yup, that's the plug. So much upcoming opportunities, from A Quiet Space every Thursday at The Micah Center, to 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp, to IEA Experience 2025, to new books and new small groups. We want you to be a part of it. So, visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com and be a part of a wonderful community!
TODAY'S INTRO
- Captain Phillips (2013, Columbia Pictures)
- Ron Swanson (Parks and Rec, s3, e9)
- Angry Woman (Ashe, 2022)
TEJ Live at 7 & 1 Books with Jen Rogers (8) - Objective Perspective, Dragon Slaying, Escape Plans
Live shows in bookstores...we wish every episode could be recorded this way! Today's episode is almost like 3 episodes rolled into one. We get to meet Arlene Kasselman (enneagram 7), founder of 7&1 Books. Then …
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Live shows in bookstores...we wish every episode could be recorded this way!
Today's episode is almost like 3 episodes rolled into one. We get to meet Arlene Kasselman (enneagram 7), founder of 7&1 Books. Then we get to hear from Jen Rogers (enneagram 8) and learn from her experiences in life, and then chase all of that with some Q&A with the audience.
Find 7&1 books and learn more about them by visiting sevenandonebooks.com
“If you haven’t done enneagram work, it’s hard to see value in people that see the world different than you do.” - Jen Rogers
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
Spirituality and the Enneagram
ICU Talks in Charlotte, NC
September 5-6, 2025
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/charlotte
- Book Release Party for Letting Go, Finding You
The Micah Center in Dallas, TX
August 29, 2025
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/store/p/bookparty
TODAY's INTRO
- 40 Year Old Virgin (2005, Universal Pictures)
- Black Books (s1, e1: Channel 4)
- Pierre Novellie (Chris Ramsey's Stand Up Central)
- The Dragon Slayer Archetype (Europos)
Jen Hanson (2) - Boundaries, False Self-esteem, Forgive Yourself
Let's do some math. 2 + 2 - 7 = a great episode of The Enneagram Journey! Enneagram 2, Jen Hanson, joins fellow 2, Suzanne Stabile on today's show, but we lost our 7 Joel for this one. Don't like the episode …
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Let's do some math.
2 + 2 - 7 = a great episode of The Enneagram Journey!
Enneagram 2, Jen Hanson, joins fellow 2, Suzanne Stabile on today's show, but we lost our 7 Joel for this one. Don't like the episode too much, it'll hurt his feelings.
- Can you have an enneagram conversation between a couple of Twos without talking about boundaries?
- The strengths of being a Two and working with children and youth.
- Parenting with the struggles of social media.
- Should one of Suzanne's spiritual practices be getting massages regularly?!
- aaaaaaaand more
"How would we measure our value in relationships if it didn't involve our responding to every Feeling with Doing?" - SS
You can find out more about Jen and all of the good going on at Northaven by visiting www.northaven.org
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
The King Speaker Series
Enneagram Stances
June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas (Registration closes May 30!)
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
- Spirituality and the Enneagram
ICU Talks in Charlotte, NC
September 5-6, 2025
REGISTRATION WILL BE UP SOON!
THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM
Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram
So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:
TODAY'S INTRO
- Between 2 Ferns (2019, Netflix)
- Pretty Woman (1990, Touchstone Pictures)
- Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius (2001, Paramount)
Russ Hudson (5) - Holy Ideas, Cultural Parameters, What To Hold On To
Russ Hudson is back on the show, and is going to blow your mind! The show starts with a little catching up, so we get to hear about some of Russ' travels, and we look forward to IEA Experience 2025 that …
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Russ Hudson is back on the show, and is going to blow your mind!
The show starts with a little catching up, so we get to hear about some of Russ' travels, and we look forward to IEA Experience 2025 that features both Russ and Suzanne!
- How has the Enneagram, or our understanding of the enneagram, evolved over the years?
- Russ shares their 3 rules he and Don had when writing The Wisdom of The Enneagram
- We're not just talking about the 3 Centers of Intelligence today, but also the 3 Body Centers
- Holy Ideas, enneagram and creativity, and more
"You can't get to the Holy Ideas if you don't get landed in your body and heart."
- RH
To learn more about everything Russ has going on, visit russhudson.com !
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
The King Speaker Series
Enneagram Stances
June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM
Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram
So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:
TODAY'S INTRO
- "Yakko's World" (Animaniacs, ep 2 - Warner Bros.)
- Jerry Seinfeld while being interviewed on the red carpet by WUSA 9
Tori Hastings (5) - Vulnerability, 2nd Shift, Engaging
Meet Tori Hastings, enneagram 5! As promised, we are definitely not going to talk about golf, and we are going to talk about somatic therapy, what we do when we get home from our day, what Tori's life looked …
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Meet Tori Hastings, enneagram 5!
As promised, we are definitely not going to talk about golf, and we are going to talk about somatic therapy, what we do when we get home from our day, what Tori's life looked like over the past 30 years in Alabama, and did Suzanne make a revision to the Centers of Intelligence?
"You don't achieve balance by pushing the top (center of intelligence) down. You achieve balance by pulling the bottom up." - SS
"I don't do much of anything in real time..." - TH
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
The King Speaker Series
Enneagram Stances
June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM
Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram
So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:
TODAY'S INTRO
- South Park (Comedy Central: s14, e2)
- SNL (NBC: s23, e11)
- SNL (NBC: s17, e7)
Katie Whitlock (3) - Deceit, Escaping to the Future, 9fold
Get your pen and paper ready, because this episode is FULL of incredible enneagram teaching from not one BUT TWO! enneagram teachers (and neither are Joel). Katie Whitlock (3), yes, the daughter of The …
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Get your pen and paper ready, because this episode is FULL of incredible enneagram teaching from not one BUT TWO! enneagram teachers (and neither are Joel).
Katie Whitlock (3), yes, the daughter of The Enneagram Journey's own Sara Whitlock (2), joins Suzanne in this episode. Seriously, so much good wisdom in this one
- Escaping to the future
- What do you do when you're restless?
- Balance
- Doing Enneagram work, but identifying as the wrong number
- Do you respond to strangers online?
- Some input from Joey Schewee aka @enneagramparents
- and more!
"Functional is not good enough. You should want more than functional." - KW
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
The King Speaker Series
Enneagram Stances
June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM
Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram
So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:
TODAY'S INTRO
- The Departed (2006 Warner Bros.)
- Laura Addis on TEJ Podcast
- F.R.I.E.N.D.S (NBC, s3 e18)
Darnell (1) & Alex (8) Finale - Cohort, Excess, Indignation
Alex and Darnell are back to share their final thoughts and feelings about their experience in the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne! If this series of conversations with Darnell and Alex has raised your …
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Alex and Darnell are back to share their final thoughts and feelings about their experience in the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne!
If this series of conversations with Darnell and Alex has raised your interest in the LTM Cohort program, we hope you will check it out and apply. Applications for the following year's Cohort program are accepted April 1 - September 1. You can get the dates, descriptions, expectations, and application at lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram
Other Plugs
- 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
- The King Speaker Series
Enneagram Stances
June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas
- IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
You can find out what the podcast is up to and other offerings from Life in the Trinity Ministry by visiting lifeinthetrinityministry.com.
TODAY'S INTRO
- Des Bishop - Mindfulness
- F.R.I.E.N.D.S. (NBC, S4 E23)
- "Indignant" - The Definition Channel
- Darnell Young on TEJ Podcast
Sara Whitlock (2) - Saying No, Feeling v Thinking
You've asked for more Enneagram Twos on the show, and here is a great start! Meet Sara Whitlock. Sara is a nurse practitioner from Ohio. Married to JD, an Enneagram 5, she and one of her daughters were both a …
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You've asked for more Enneagram Twos on the show, and here is a great start! Meet Sara Whitlock. Sara is a nurse practitioner from Ohio. Married to JD, an Enneagram 5, she and one of her daughters were both a part of the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne (we'll get to hear from her daughter Katie in an upcoming episode!).
PLUG TIME
Great events coming up:
- TheoEd Talks Nashville - February 23 in Nashville at Woolworth Theatre or Online
- The Enneagram Journey Live - February 25 in Nashville at Beam Gallery
- A Contemplative, Healing, Enneagram - February 28 and March 1 in Nashville at Woodmont Christian Church
- Relationships and the Enneagram - March 7-8 in South Carolina at Bethel UMC
- 2025 IEA Global Conference - July 25-25 in Minneapolis
- 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp - SAVE THE DATE! August 7-9 in Dallas and Online
Today's Intro
- The Breakup (2006, Universal Pictures)
- Scrubs (S3, E5)
- American Dad (S10, E8)
Laura Murray (4) - Home, Hospitality, Spiritual Practice
Happy 2025 to everyone on their Enneagram Journey! And even to those who haven't started yet. The first episode of the year is fantastic and features pastor, spiritual director, and author Laura Murray …
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Happy 2025 to everyone on their Enneagram Journey! And even to those who haven't started yet. The first episode of the year is fantastic and features pastor, spiritual director, and author Laura Murray, Enneagram 4.
- Laura is married to an Enneagram 5
- The difference between Home and where you belong
- Some surprising Enneagram Wing discussion with Suzanne
- Spiritual Practices
- Parenting and more
Below you will find the practice of Examen that Laura shared with us. You can also find a link for it in PDF format at theenneagramjourney.com in her episode. You can find out more about Laura and all the great things she is doing at laurabmurray.com.
In the introduction of this episode, you heard a lot of plugs!
- TheoEd Nashville - Sunday, February 23 - theoed.com/nashville
- A Contemplative, Healing, Enneagram - February 28, March 1 in Nashville - lifeinthetrinityministry.com/nashville
- EnneaSummit 2025 featuring Suzanne and the Reverend - February 4-7 Online - CLICK HERE for information and registration
- Relationships and the Enneagram - March 7-8, Charleston, South Carolina - lifeinthetrinityministry.com/charleston
Examen: A Spiritual Practice
The spiritual practice of examen is one of invitation. You are opening yourself up to both yourself and God. There is not a grade in examen, nor is there a grade in any other spiritual practice. Various questions can be helpful in the examen practice. Below is one way of practicing examen.
The hopes are awareness and attending
The practice requires permission and welcome
• The practice begins with permission. In examen, you give God permission to show you parts of yourself that are hidden or harder to see. You also welcome and allow parts of yourself to be seen by God and yourself.
• This is done by reflecting on and responding to a series of questions. As you do this awareness of those parts of you starts to emerge.
• Then, you permit God again to attend to what came up. Your work here is to
welcome what you can and allow God to attend to you.
• Repeat daily for 7-10 days, giving yourself time to notice and explore what you see.
Examen Questions:
What do I find myself grateful for today?What am I grieving today?
Where do I sense God’s nearness to my grief?
Where do I sense God’s distance from my grief?
How has God been generous with me lately?
How is God calling me to be generous today?
Prayer:
After responding to these questions, allow God to attend to you through your
responses and what is coming up in you. Tell God thank you after a few minutes or however long you need.visit laurabmurray.com to learn more!
TODAY's INTRO
- Baby Come Back, Player (RSO, 1977)
- John Wick (Summit Entertainment, 2014)
- Without Me, Eminem (Shady-Aftermath, 2002)
- Home, Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros (Rough Trade, 2010)
- The Sandlot (20th Century Fox, 1993)
Jonathan Merritt (3) - Navigating Relationships, My Guncle and Me
Your Enneagram Godmother and an Enneagram Guncle got together for this INCREDIBLE conversation! If you don't know Jonathan yet, Enneagram 3, this is a wonderful introduction. "...othering the other that othered …
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Your Enneagram Godmother and an Enneagram Guncle got together for this INCREDIBLE conversation!
If you don't know Jonathan yet, Enneagram 3, this is a wonderful introduction.
"...othering the other that othered them."
It'll make more sense after you hear him talk about it!
Jonathan is a writer on faith and culture, the author of Learning To Speak God From Scratch, Jesus is Better Than You Imagined, My Guncle and Me and a few other great reads. You can find him on Instagram @jonathan_merritt and online at jonathanmerritt.com
PLUG TIME!
OOOOOHHHHHH, don't let this event sell out without you being a part of it:
A Contemplative, Healing, Enneagram with Rev. Joseph and Suzanne Stabile, and Hunter Mobley.
February 28 - March 1, 2025 in Nashville, TN
CLICK HERE FOR TICKETS or visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com/nashville
Today's INTRO
- The Office (S3, E1)
- Modern Family (S4, E21)
- The Other Guys (Columbia Pictures 2010)
Br5aking The Cycle
The Enneagram Godmother + The Great Russ Hudson + The Reverend Where do we sign up?!?! Today's podcast episode comes from the LTM teaching event in Dallas, Br5aking The Cycle (don't worry, you'll learn why it …
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The Enneagram Godmother + The Great Russ Hudson + The Reverend
Where do we sign up?!?!
Today's podcast episode comes from the LTM teaching event in Dallas, Br5aking The Cycle (don't worry, you'll learn why it is spelled that way and what 5a means).
As you'll hear Joel explain, this 2 hour teaching is only the opening for the rest of the next 10 hours, but it is an entire workshop in itself!
There is nobody Suzanne holds in higher regard when it comes to Enneagram Wisdom than Russ Hudson. The real magic that comes out in this weekend's teaching is that Suzanne, Joe, and Russ are each in different Enneagram Triads: Suzanne, Heart - Russ, Head - Reverend, Gut. And the teaching is on Enneagram Triads, managing your dominant center of intelligence, and how we br5ak this darn cycle!
Wanna send Suzanne a message while she is recovering? CLICK HERE
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If you want to continue on this journey of Br5aking The Cycle, you can purchase the entire workshop during the month of October and get it at 40% off!! Be prepared though, because it is 12 hours of challenging teaching for us to try and do, think, feel things differently. Click here for the workshop handout and to get the entire 3 days of teaching for 40% off.
Thank you for listening to the show and for helping to make the world more compassionate! To learn more about Life in the Trinity Ministry visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com.
Today's Intro:
- "The Chain" (Fleetwood Mac, Rumors 1977)
- "It's Been a While" (Staind, Breaking The Cycle 2001)
- "All We Ever Knew" (The Head and The Heart, Signs of Light 2016)
October 2024 Q&A
Its Q&A time on The Enneagram Journey! Suzanne and Joel sat down to record today's episode at The Micah Center and decided at the last moment to turn on the camera. Having the camera on contributed to the …
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Its Q&A time on The Enneagram Journey!
Suzanne and Joel sat down to record today's episode at The Micah Center and decided at the last moment to turn on the camera. Having the camera on contributed to the conversation about seeing a therapist and accountability, and the show just takes off from there.
Some of the things you'll here in this episode:
- A question about a 7 and 5 relationship
- this leads to some subtype talk
- What needs to fall away when you go to therapy?
- Enneagram 6s and Trust
- Are 6s the most controlling personality?
- A 4 and 5 parenting adult children
- A great Chuck Knoblauch joke that Suzanne talked over
- aaaaand more!
"Tell me what you want, and I'll tell you whether or not I can give it to you."
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2025 is going to be the year that LTM gets around the country! Several stops already locked in: Arkansas, South Carolina, Tennessee, Minnesota, Texas. And many more that are in the works!
Be sure and subscribe to the LTM newsletter to get the latest updates on these events and everything else podcast related, and LTM related. Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com and you'll find the newsletter sign up on any page in the footer.
You've got Enneagram questions? We've got Enneagram responses! This is seriously Suzanne's favorite way to teach, so send your questions in at theenneagramjourney.com/contact
TODAY'S INTRO
- Ben Folds, "Annie Waits" (2001, Rockin' The Suburbs)
- Pete Holmes (Pete is the WORST Therapist)
- Suzanne Stabile in today's show
- Step Brothers (2008, Columbia Pictures)
- A question about a 7 and 5 relationship
Darnell (1) and Alex (8) - Be Right or In Relationship?, Triggers, Enneagram Cohort
The second half of 2024 is well underway and so is the second half of the 2024 Cohort Program. Welcome back Alex Reegan (enneagram 8) and Darnell Young (enneagram 1)! Our third guest, Matt Lesser (8), couldn't …
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The second half of 2024 is well underway and so is the second half of the 2024 Cohort Program. Welcome back Alex Reegan (enneagram 8) and Darnell Young (enneagram 1)! Our third guest, Matt Lesser (8), couldn't join us for this conversation, but he'll be back at the end of the year for sure! Today's episode is fantastic:
- Is "triggered" still a term we should be using? Who decides?
- Would you rather be Right or in Relationship?
- Armor and Privilege
- Tattoo Talk
- When are you vulnerable?
- Orientation to Time!
We think it would be hard to listen to this episode and not want to apply for the 2025 Cohort Program. So, LTM has extended the application deadline to September 1, 2024. Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025cohort for all of the information, expectations, and applications.
BIG PLUG!!
The Enneagram and Spiritual Practices
September 6-7, Birmingham, AL with Rev. Joseph and Suzanne Stabile
Join the Reverend and The Enneagram Godmother for a weekend diving into our enneagram personalities, specifically Stance Work, and the role it plays in our Spiritual lives and practice.
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/alabama
The Enneagram and Relationships
October 4-5, Charleston, SC, with Suzanne Stabile
Join Suzanne for her final travel teaching of 2024 in beautiful Charleston, South Carolina. We don't know anyone who can combine enneagram wisdom with relationships better than Suzanne. She needs her own weekly radio show to be honest!
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/charleston
Today's Intro:
- Scrubs (S3, E9)
- South Park (S19, E1)
- The Enneagram Journey Podcast
- Eric Nadel (The Texas Rangers Radio Network)
Micky ScottBey Jones (1) - Accompaniment, Doula, Burnout
Meet The Justice Doula, Micky ScottBey Jones! Originally mistyped as an 8, which makes a ton of sense, she found her inner critic and her "inner BFF" as an Enneagram 1, and no accompanies others as they birth …
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Meet The Justice Doula, Micky ScottBey Jones!
Originally mistyped as an 8, which makes a ton of sense, she found her inner critic and her "inner BFF" as an Enneagram 1, and no accompanies others as they birth precious things into the world like love, empathy, self-compassion, liberation, healing and resilience.
You can find out more about Micky at mickyscottbeyjones.com
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2024 Enneagram Bootcamp
Stress, Loss, & Relationships
August 1-3 in Dallas, TX or join Online
This is LTM's biggest teaching event of the year, and we are thrilled to be back at The Grove Church in Dallas again. There are still some in person tickets available, but if you can't make it to Dallas we hope you will join online. Everyone registered will have access to the replay of the event as well. Join Suzanne and Joe for 3 days of learning, growth, and community!
visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com for all of the important info and to register!
TODAY's INTRO
- Michael W. Smith, Place In This World 1991
- The Today Show (NBC, 2019)
- Parks and Rec (S5. E15)
- The Office (S6. E18, The Delivery Part 2)
Luke Norsworthy (7) - How to Love the Life You Already Have
We've officially named Luke the first member of The Enneagram Journey 5 Timer Club! It's a big deal. Not as big a deal though as his latest book, How To Love The Life You Already Have. If you're looking for the …
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We've officially named Luke the first member of The Enneagram Journey 5 Timer Club! It's a big deal.
Not as big a deal though as his latest book, How To Love The Life You Already Have.
If you're looking for the Richard Rohr books Suzanne suggests to read in order (he has many more great ones!) here they are: Everything Belongs, The Naked Now, Falling Upward, Immortal Diamond.
Luke (Enneagram 7), Suzanne, and Joel got a little distracted by some great conversation, so Suzanne and Luke are going to continue their talk on Instagram Live Wednesday, July 3 at 3:00 pm CST. You can find Suzanne on Instagram @suzannestabile and Luke @lukeanorsworthy
We will try to add the link or the video to theenneagramjourney.com if you cannot join live.
Are you signed up for 2024 Enneagram Bootcamp: Stress, Loss, & Relationships?
Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com for all of the important information for the Enneagram event of the year, including pre-conference Yoga workshop with Courtney Perry, aka Yenneagram, and a post-conference workshop for Adoptees and former foster youth with Melissa Corkum.
August 1-4, 2024 in Dallas or Online.
If you miss joining in Dallas, we hope you can join Suzanne and LTM in September in Alabama or October in South Carolina!
Visit www.lifeinthetrinityministry.com for all of the details, dates, and times!
TODAY's INTRO
- Hello (Adele 25)
- David Whyte (A lyrical bridge between past, present, and future)
- Rolling In The Deep (Adele 21)
- 5 Timers Club (SNL S47: E13)
- Easy On Me (Adele 30)
- Mythic Quest (S1: E4)
Tony Jones (8) - The God of Wild Places
Enneagram 8, Tony Jones, steps out of the woods and into The Micah Center to sit down with Suzanne and her husband, Rev. Joseph Stabile, to talk about his latest book, The God of Wild Places. “One of the things …
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Enneagram 8, Tony Jones, steps out of the woods and into The Micah Center to sit down with Suzanne and her husband, Rev. Joseph Stabile, to talk about his latest book, The God of Wild Places.
“One of the things I like about the wilderness is that it is not controllable.
We’ve paved too many wild places.”
If you haven't read The God of Wild Places yet, no worries! Give this episode a listen and it will get you prepped for it.
PLUG TIME!
June 2024 is full of great sales at LTM.
- All shirts are only $5
- Prayer Beads are in stock
- All books are between $5 - $13
- New Enneagram Bracelets for $10
- Free shipping on all orders over $9 with the code PROUD
And be sure to check out the upcoming teaching events in Charleston, South Carolina, Birmingham, Alabama, and of course Enneagram Bootcamp in August here in Dallas or online! You can find out about all of this and so much more (don't forget to apply for the 2025 LTM Cohort program!!) by visiting lifeinthetrinityministry.com
TODAY'S INTRO
- Big Yellow Taxi by Counting Crows
- We Are The Millers (2013, Warner Bros.)
- Forgetting Sarah Marshall (2008, Universal Pictures)
- Will Ferrell as Robert Goulet (SNL, the best of Will Ferrell)
- A River Runs Through It (1992, Columbia Pictures)
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