The Pawsitive Post in Conversation by Companion Animal Psychology
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- 10 Nov 2026
À propos du podcast
The show about how to have a better relationship with your dog or cat. Get tips on dog training, dog behaviour, cat behaviour and training, learn about the science on dogs and cats, and find out which books we're reading (animal-related and more generally). Kind, humane, reward-based training methods only. Hosted by Zazie Todd PhD and Kristi Benson CTC of Companion Animal Psychology blog. Made in Canada.
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Épisodes 72
The Puppy Primer with Patricia McConnell PhD
Leave us a voicemail!Zazie and Kristi are joined by Patricia McConnell, PhD, to talk all about puppies as the third edition of The Puppy Primer is out now.We talked about:The most important thing Patricia would …
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Zazie and Kristi are joined by Patricia McConnell, PhD, to talk all about puppies as the third edition of The Puppy Primer is out now.
We talked about:
- The most important thing Patricia would like people to know about puppies
- Why she did a new edition of The Puppy Primer and what new things are in it
- How to help kids and dogs get along
- Whether advice on socialization has changed over the years
- What to do when a puppy is mouthing you
- Things that people are mostly getting right for dogs these days that they didn't used to in the past (and one worrying thing that might be making a comeback in some places)
- What it felt like to be working on the new edition
- A question that Patricia has for the audience
- And of course we asked her what she's been reading recently
Patricia recommended 4 authors to us:
- Kim Brophey (Meet Your Dog)
- Ann Cleeves (The Long Call)
- Lucy Foley (The Paris Apartment)
- Tana French (In The Woods)
Also mentioned in this episode:
- Our conversation with Patricia about her mystery novel, Away To Me https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/2026/02/away-to-me-first-mystery-novel-from.html
- Our conversation with Patricia about her memoir, The Education of Will, at Bark! Fest in 2024 https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/2024/10/bark-fest-recording-dogs-trauma-and.html
- Our conversation with Steve Dale about his book, Ask The Dog https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/2026/05/why-children-should-ask-dog-with-steve.html
- Patricia's blog post about the CANIS 2026 conference https://www.patriciamcconnell.com/theotherendoftheleash/canis-2026/
Patricia McConnell PhD is an internationally-renowned applied animal behaviourist who has dedicated her life to improving the relationship between people and animals. Amongst her many treasured dog training books, The Other End of the Leash draws our attention to the human side of dog training. Her memoir, The Education of Will, is a beautifully-written and uplifting account of how to reclaim life after trauma, for both humans and dogs. And her first novel, Away to Me, is a gorgeous mystery set in the dog world. Patricia and her husband, Jim, have two dogs and a very spoiled flock of sheep on a small farm in Southwestern Wisconsin.
Patricia McConnell's website: https://www.patriciamcconnell.com/
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Cat Husbandry: How to groom your cat, trim their nails, and give cats medication (replay)
Leave us a voicemail!This episode is in honour of two very special cats who are no longer with us: Kristi's cat Apricat and my cat Melina, both of whom passed this autumn. It's a replay of our …
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This episode is in honour of two very special cats who are no longer with us: Kristi's cat Apricat and my cat Melina, both of whom passed this autumn. It's a replay of our conversation about cat husbandry that first aired in 2023. (The other cat mentioned in this episode, Harley, passed in 2024).
In this episode we chat about how to groom your cat and how to deal with mats, as well as how to trim your cat’s nails. We discuss the many reasons why it’s important not to “declaw” your cat and how it’s really like an amputation. Scratching is a natural behavior for cats and we talk about the kind of post to provide to keep your cat happy.
We also discuss the tricky topic of how to give meds to your cats, including pilling, towel-wrapping, and tricks to make meds easier. Along the way we share stories about our own cats and of course a few tips for dogs as well.
At the end we chat about the books we’re reading.
Useful links:-
Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy by Zazie Todd is available from all good bookstores.
All of the books mentioned in the episode are available from my Amazon store.
The Paw Project: Cats’ paws need their claws https://pawproject.org/
BC’s 2018 ban on declawing cats was good news for cats, study shows
What kind of scratching post do cats prefer?
Caring for a diabetic cat gets easier with time, study shows
How to give your cat an insulin injection (iCatCare)
How to train your cat to use an asthma inhaler
Teach any cat AeroKat (iCatCare)
How to clip your cat’s claws (iCatCare)
Two people giving a cat a pill (iCatCare)
Medicating tips and tricks (Fundamentally Feline)
Comfort cats in a towel wrap (Dr. Sophia Yin)
Fresh and Fearless: Basic Grooming Made Easy (Kristi Benson)
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Far and Wild: Adventures of the Worldwide Vet with Dr Cliff Redford
Leave us a voicemail!Dr. Cliff Redford, known as the “Worldwide Vet,” has been passionate about animals since childhood. He joined Zazie and Kristi to talk about his adventures and his new book, Far and Wild.We …
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Dr. Cliff Redford, known as the “Worldwide Vet,” has been passionate about animals since childhood. He joined Zazie and Kristi to talk about his adventures and his new book, Far and Wild.
We talked about:
- How Dr. Cliff started volunteering as a veterinarian
- Dr. Cliff shared some of the stories from the book, including of a monkey that he helped in India
- The street cats of Athens
- One-eyed Jack
- Helping Ukrainians to take their pets with them when they fled at the start of Russia's war on Ukraine
- What it's like working with a wide range of species
- Writing about veterinary procedures for a general audience
- What he's learned about the human-animal relationship
- The book Dr. Cliff recommended is Cujo by Stephen King
Dr. Cliff Redford, known as the “Worldwide Vet,” has been passionate about animals since childhood. After graduating from Ontario Veterinary College in 1998, he opened Wellington Veterinary Hospital in Markham, Ontario, where he still practices today. Beyond domestic pets, Dr. Cliff volunteers globally, treating wildlife and working with local animal rescues.
Far and Wild: Adventures of the Worldwide Vet is just published and available wherever books are sold.
The Far and Wild website: https://farandwild.ca/
Dr. Cliff on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drcliffworldwidevet/
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Being positive about positive reinforcement (when someone is wrong on the internet)
Leave us a voicemail!Kristi and Zazie chat about the need to be positive when talking about dog training and cat behaviour, and how they cope when someone is wrong on the internet.We talked about:The value of …
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Kristi and Zazie chat about the need to be positive when talking about dog training and cat behaviour, and how they cope when someone is wrong on the internet.
We talked about:
- The value of positive reinforcement, and gratitude for the positive reinforcement we get for the podcast
- How to cope when someone is badly wrong on the internet and the post takes off
- The idea of a DRI for ourselves: differential reinforcement of an incompatible behaviour
- The idea of a revenge blog and how we have both written some of them
- The value of likes, comments, and shares on social media and the difference they can make to the algorithm
- The need to stay informed about science and the scientific process
Also mentioned in this show:
- Ep65 on bothsidesism https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/19661849
- Ep61 How to evaluate the scientific research on dogs and cats https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/19388459
- Kristi's blog post on good alternatives to e-fencing: https://www.kristibenson.com/blog/2019/11/4/good-alternatives-to-e-fencing-dog-training-experts-weigh-in
- Zazie's blog post on science communication: To promote positive reinforcement on dog training, teach, engage, and amplify https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/2019/06/to-promote-positive-reinforcement-dog.html
- Zazie's post on why it's dogs' happiness, not obedience, that counts: https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/fellow-creatures/202004/why-dogs-happiness-not-obedience-is-what-counts
The books we recommend in this episode are:
- Memorial Park by Louisa Scarr
- Starter Dog: My Path to Joy, Belonging, and Loving this World by Rona Maynard
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
The Invention of the Dog with Tamsin Pickeral
Leave us a voicemail!Tamsin Pickeral's new book, The Invention of the Dog: 75 Breeds that Changed the World is a fascinating, touching, and beautifully illustrated account of where our beloved dogs come …
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Tamsin Pickeral's new book, The Invention of the Dog: 75 Breeds that Changed the World is a fascinating, touching, and beautifully illustrated account of where our beloved dogs come from. Tamsin joined Zazie and Kristi to chat about the book.
We talked about:
- How the book came about, and what it was like selecting the artwork to be included in the book
- Then we look at 3 very different breeds, starting with the history of the Shih Tzu
- The history of the Bernese Mountain Dog
- The history of the Yorkshire Terrier
- How dog breeds became so different
- Tamsin's favourite image from the book
- Why dogs are so successful
- The domestication of the dog
- The depiction of dogs in art and how their appearance has changed over the years
- And finally, we asked Tamsin to recommend a book to us
The Invention of the Dog: 75 Breeds that Changed the World is out now and available wherever books are sold.
The book that Tamsin recommended to us is Fairy Tale by Stephen King.
Tamsin Pickeral is an animal specialist and an art historian. She is an internationally published author who has written several acclaimed books on animal themes. Her new book, The Invention of the Dog, is just published and tells the true stories of some of our favourite dog breeds.
Learn more about Tamsin at https://tamsinpickeral.com/
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Great Writers and the Cats who Owned Them with Susannah Fullerton
Leave us a voicemail!Zazie and Kristi chat with Susannah Fullerton about her delightful book, Great Writers and the Cats Who Owned Them.We talk about:whether there is a special affiliation between writers and …
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Zazie and Kristi chat with Susannah Fullerton about her delightful book, Great Writers and the Cats Who Owned Them.
We talk about:
- whether there is a special affiliation between writers and cats
- how Susannah chose the writers to include in the book
- some famous cats, including Hodge, who was a very fine cat indeed
- Daffy, the cat who knew Anne of Green Gables before anyone else
- why TS Eliot doesn't get a whole chapter despite inspiring the musical Cats
- Dorothy L Sayers' cat Blitz
- what the writers' accounts of their cats tell us about how the human-feline relationship has changed over the years
- we get some of Susannah's favourite titbits from the book and ask which is her favourite cat
- we learn about Susannah's upcoming book, Great Writers and the Dogs Who Loved Them
- and finally we ask what she's been reading
You can see examples of Edward Lear's drawings of his cat Foss in this post on Susannah's website: https://susannahfullerton.com.au/literary-pets-foss-the-cat/
The book Susannah recommended to us is Anne's Cradle: The Life and Works of Hanako Muraoka, Japanese Translate of Anne of Green Gables by Eri Muraoka and Cathy Hirano.
Susannah Fullerton is Sydney’s most highly regarded literary historian and lecturer. She is a leading authority on 19th and 20th-century writers with a special interest in Jane Austen. She brings to life the lives and writings of great writers with fascinating talks and in literary tours around the world. In 2017 she was awarded the Order of Australia Medal for services to literature.
She's the author of Great Writers and the Cats Who Owned Them, which is available wherever books are sold.
Learn more and sign up for her newsletter at https://susannahfullerton.com.au/
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Dog training methods: How to advocate for dogs (and why bothsidesism doesn't help)
Leave us a voicemail!Zazie and Kristi chat about what we can do to better advocate for reward-based dog training methods, and some common things that people get wrong.We talk about:The podcast Kristi heard by …
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Zazie and Kristi chat about what we can do to better advocate for reward-based dog training methods, and some common things that people get wrong.
We talk about:
- The podcast Kristi heard by Rachel Gilmore and why it made her want to talk about this topic
- Why reward-based dog training methods are better for dogs and their people
- Bothsidesism, and how portraying the use of aversive methods as normal and just another side of the argument is potentially damaging
- How we can use a truth sandwich to counter myths about dog training
- What the Overton window is and how it relates to conversations about dog training methods
- Treviño's degrees of acceptance and how positive reinforcement dog training went from radical to sensible to popular
If you want to listen to some truth sandwiches about dog training and cat behaviour, check out episode 3 https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/12778186
The books we recommended in this episode are:
- By Strength We Are Still Here by Crystal Gail Fraser
- Pugs and Kisses by Farrah Rochon
You can listen to Farrah Rochon talk about Pugs and Kisses in the romance panel at Bark! Fest, the book festival for animal lovers, where she's joined by Julie Howarth (New Beginnings at the Cosy Cat Cafe) and Nicola Knight (Washed Up). Save your spot here: https://us06web.zoom.us/webinar/register/5917869995632/WN_svRTPtHARD-_BrgsmER6WA
And check out all of the Bark! Fest panels at https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/p/home.html
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Love in Their Hearts and compassion for animals with Marc Bekoff, PhD
Leave us a voicemail!Marc Bekoff, PhD, joins Zazie and Kristi to talk about his new book Love in Their Hearts, his work (and upcoming book) with Jane Goodall, and what it's like studying canids.We talked …
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Marc Bekoff, PhD, joins Zazie and Kristi to talk about his new book Love in Their Hearts, his work (and upcoming book) with Jane Goodall, and what it's like studying canids.
We talked about:
- Why Marc and his co-author Jeff Campbell wrote Love In Their Hearts
- The time Marc's dog Jethro rescued a baby bunny, and stories of the grizzly bear known as 399
- The importance of naming animals
- Marc's research on dogs, wolves, coyotes, and foxes, and how his work replaced theories of dominance leading to the dissolution of litters in the wild
- How animals tell stories
- Marc's work with Jane Goodall, how he first heard of her, and how she influenced his work
- The educator's kit that goes with Love In Their Hearts and how it can inspire hope and activism in young readers
The book Marc recommended is Knowing Wonder: An Elephant Story by Merrill Sapp illustrated by Gareth Hooks. You can read Marc's interview with Merrill Sapp here: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/animal-emotions/202412/an-elephants-world-from-the-mind-and-heart-of-a-matriarch
Love In Their Hearts: A Celebration of Animal Emotions and a Guide to Compassionate Action is by Marc Bekoff and Jeff Campbell.
Every Elephant Has a Name by Jane Goodall and Marc Bekoff illustrated by Gavin Scott will be published on Feb 8, 2027.
Marc Bekoff will be at Bark! Fest to talk about Love In Their Hearts on Sep 23, joining Alison Pearce Stevens (Detective Dogs). Sign up here: https://us06web.zoom.us/webinar/register/1317856369316/WN_QnjJGASbSvyWmpRL-mp1lQ
Find out more about Bark! Fest and sign up for the other events at companionanimalpsychology.com
Marc Bekoff is professor emeritus of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology at the University of Colorado, Boulder. He has won many awards for his research and writing, including a Guggenheim Fellowship and the Exemplar Award from the Animal Behavior Society. He writes regularly for Psychology Today and has published more than thirty books, including The Emotional Lives of Animals and numerous scientific and popular essays. Visit marcbekoff.com to learn more.
Find Marc's Psych Today blog here: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/animal-emotions
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Setting standards in dog training and animal behaviour with Fiona Cooke of the ABTC
Leave us a voicemail!How can we set and maintain standards for dog training and animal behaviour? Zazie and Kristi are joined by Fiona Cooke, Chair of the Board of Trustees of the Animal Behaviour and Training …
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How can we set and maintain standards for dog training and animal behaviour? Zazie and Kristi are joined by Fiona Cooke, Chair of the Board of Trustees of the Animal Behaviour and Training Council to learn all about their important work in the UK, and what anyone can do if they want to make a difference.
We talked about:
- What the ABTC does
- Why it's so important to follow a compassionate, non-punitive approach in training and animal behaviour
- The wide range of organizations who are part of the ABTC (and how they represent people who work with dogs, cats, horses, and exotics)
- The benefits of being on the ABTC register for practitioners in the UK, and how the public can use it to find a good trainer or behaviourist
- We get a sneak peek of what the ABTC is working on right now
- The importance of collaboration and how people can increase awareness of the ABTC and support their work
- We get Fiona's tips on what people can do to make a difference
- And finally we find out what Fiona's been reading, which turns out to include an instruction booklet for building a wardrobe!
The books Fiona recommends are The Secret Hour by Mick Herron and also his Slough House series, of which the first is Slow Horses.
The Animal Behaviour and Training Council sets and maintains standards of knowledge and practical skills needed to be an animal trainer, training instructor or animal behaviour therapist and maintains the national Register of appropriately assessed practitioners.
ABTC members include major animal welfare charities, organisations concerned with human-animal interactions, educational institutions and membership organisations for practitioners. The Council represents the training and behaviour sector to the public and to governments.
Visit the ABTC website: https://abtc.org.uk/
Sponsor the ABTC: https://abtc.org.uk/sponsors/
ABTC merch: https://shop.abtc.org.uk/
Fiona Cooke is Chair of the ABTC Board of Trustees. She is Head of Specialist Services (vet, behaviour, training and research) at Woodgreen Pets Charity. Her PhD focused on the role of local government in the implementation and enforcement of animal welfare legislation. She is a lecturer in law and runs an animal behaviour company working with complex behavioural issues of dogs and cats. Fiona is a full member of the APBC and FABC as well as an ABTC registered CAB.
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Can your dog tell if you're pregnant and smell if you're stressed? with Dr. Catherine Reeve
Leave us a voicemail!Zazie and Kristi chat with scientist Dr. Catherine Reeve about her research to find out whether dogs change their behaviour when their owner is pregnant and if they can use their noses to …
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Zazie and Kristi chat with scientist Dr. Catherine Reeve about her research to find out whether dogs change their behaviour when their owner is pregnant and if they can use their noses to detect when someone is stressed.
We talked about:
- The survey that investigated whether women think their dog's behaviour changed when they were pregnant
- The kinds of dogs that were most likely to show changes
- How the scientists got scent samples from people who were stressed
- The training to teach dogs to alert to the scent
- How well the dogs did at the task
- The implications for ordinary dog guardians
The papers we talked about are:
- Dog owners’ perceptions of their dog’s behaviour during pregnancy https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/08927936.2025.2502241
- Dogs can discriminate between human baseline and psychological stress condition odours https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0274143
The books Catherine recommended are The Boy Who Was Raised as a Dog by Bruce Perry and The Unworthy by Agustina Bazterrica.
Also mentioned: Earlier episodes on surveys and understanding research (Ep61), and on dogs and scent work (Ep56 with Melissa McCue-McGrath; Ep 46 with Bonnie Hartney; Ep35 with Kim Cooper and Cat Warren).
Dr. Catherine Reeve is a Postdoctoral Fellow at Mount Saint Vincent University. She has a PhD in Experimental Psychology from Dalhousie University. She’s interested in applied canine behaviour, canine cognition, especially olfaction, and human-animal interaction. And she’s the head trainer at Epic Tails Canine Adventures in Halifax, Nova Scotia.
University website: https://www.msvu.ca/academics/bachelor-of-science-bsc/psychology/faculty-and-staff/dr-catherine-reeve/
Epic Tails Canine Adventures: https://epic-tails.ca/
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
How to evaluate the scientific research on dogs and cats: A guide
Leave us a voicemail!New research on dogs and cats helps us to understand them better and give them better lives. But how do we know if the research is any good, and what about our feelings about the results? …
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New research on dogs and cats helps us to understand them better and give them better lives. But how do we know if the research is any good, and what about our feelings about the results? Zazie and Kristi chat about how to evaluate the science.
We talk about:
- Taking an ethical stance on dogs and cats that recognizes that they are sentient beings
- How it can be tricky to assess research if you're not trained as a scientist
- The research on training methods shows risks to using aversives and that it's much better to only use reward-based training methods
- Why we look for more than one study to teach us something
- We consider different types of research, including the value of questionnaire studies and of experiments
- What a meta-analysis is
- How it can feel emotional if you don't like the results of a particular study
- People's willingness to take part in research
- A re-evaluation of a classic study on spanking children that is relevant to the discussion
- And finally we talk about the books we're reading
The books we recommend this time are:
- People, Places, Things by Chuck Palahniuk
- New Beginnings at the Cosy Cat Cafe by Julie Haworth
Also mentioned is Zazie's post about a literature review on dog training methods: https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/2017/04/new-literature-review-recommends-reward.html
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Resource guarding in dogs: What to do about it with Jean Donaldson
Leave us a voicemail!Jean Donaldson has just published a new edition of her book Mine! A Practical Guide to Resource Guarding in Dogs. If you have a dog who guards food, objects, people, or locations, you need …
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Jean Donaldson has just published a new edition of her book Mine! A Practical Guide to Resource Guarding in Dogs. If you have a dog who guards food, objects, people, or locations, you need this book! Jean joins Zazie and Kristi to discuss what to do if your dog guards food, locations, or other resources.
We talk about:
- Why it was time for a new edition of Mine! and what it was like to write it
- How to decide if your dog needs a regular training plan or a more incremental one to resolve their guarding behaviour
- Why it's a myth that you should be able to take your dog's food away from them
- How we can add food to puppies' bowls to help prevent food guarding
- Why there's not really anything wrong with the personality of a dog who guards resources
- The other behaviour issues that sometimes accompany guarding behaviour
- What it means to be "warmed up" or "cold" in a dog training plan
- Why dog trainers like the spicy dogs
- The Olde English Sheepdog who was a bit of a challenge
- Guarding behaviour in Jean's dog Buffy and Kristi's dogs Archer and Soleil
- When to hire a dog trainer to help with resource guarding
The book Jean recommended to us is The Eagle and the Hart: The Tragedy of Richard II and Henry IV by Helen Kastor.
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Mine! A Practical Guide to Resource Guarding in Dogs by Jean Donaldson is available wherever books are sold.
Jean Donaldson is one of the world's top dog trainers, founder of the Academy for Dog Trainers, and author of the seminal book Culture Clash, which was named number one training and behaviour book by The Association of Pet Dog Trainers. In 2017, Jean authored and instructed Dog Training 101 for The Great Courses, another wonderful resource for dog guardians. Her most recent book is the second edition of Mine! A Practical Guide to Resource Guarding in Dogs.
Follow Jean at the Academy for Dog Trainers:
Website: https://academyfordogtrainers.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AcademyforDogTrainers
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/academy4dogtrainers/?hl=en
You might also like: Understanding resource guarding in dogs and how to fix it with Lisa Skavienski
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Why children should Ask the Dog if they want to be petted with Steve Dale
Leave us a voicemail!Kids are routinely taught to ask a dog's owner before petting the dog. Today, radio host Steve Dale joins us to talk about how they should also find out if the dog wants to be petted …
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Kids are routinely taught to ask a dog's owner before petting the dog. Today, radio host Steve Dale joins us to talk about how they should also find out if the dog wants to be petted or not. We learn about Steve's new children's book, Ask the Dog, which is a fun story with an important message, and we also talk about some good news in cat health.
We talked about:
- Why Steve wrote the book
- The importance of preventing dog bites, and why children are especially at risk
- Why children should learn to ask the dog
- How the relationship between dogs and children has changed over the years
- What it was like working with an illustrator for the book
- The work of the EveryCat Health Foundation and their research on taurine in cat food, FIP, diabetes, and heart disease
- How research on cat health has also benefited human health
Also mentioned:
- The EveryCat Health Foundation is at everycat.org
- Theater of the Mind created by David Byrne and Mala Gaonkar is at the Goodman Theater in Chicago through August 30 2026 https://theaterofthemindchicago.com/
- Steve Dale's interview with David Byrne https://stevedalepetworld.com/blog/conversation-with-david-byrne-booth-46/
- The book Steve recommended is Bicycle Diaries by David Byrne
Ask the Dog by Steve Dale, illustrated by Shelby Koehler, is available wherever books are sold.
Steve Dale is a certified animal behavior consultant, a radio host, and his show Steve Dale’s Pet World is essential listening for everyone who loves pets. He co-edited Decoding Your Dog, written by the American College of Veterinary Behaviorists, and has written and contributed to many other books. Ask the Dog is his first children's book. Steve is the host of Steve Dale's Pet World on WGN radio and also hosts a Sunday afternoon talk show at WGN radio.
Learn more about Steve and sign up for his newsletter at stevedale.tv.
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Dogs and cats, breeds and behaviour: Quick questions
Leave us a voicemail!Zazie and Kristi ask each other rapid fire questions about dogs and cats, breeds and behaviour. But in this game of this or that, we also discuss the answers, illuminating ideas about …
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Zazie and Kristi ask each other rapid fire questions about dogs and cats, breeds and behaviour. But in this game of this or that, we also discuss the answers, illuminating ideas about training and enrichment. By the end of the show, you'll know Zazie and Kristi a lot better, but you'll also have learned something about dogs and cats.
As you listen, be sure to shout out your answers too! Or you can leave us a voicemail and let us know.
Do you have any this-or-that questions that you would like us to answer? Send them in!
At the end of the episode, we discuss the books we've been reading:
- Detective Aunty by Uzma Jalaluddin
- Crier's War by Nina Varela
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Why we should love the beasties with Dr. Jo Wimpenny
Leave us a voicemail!Zazie and Kristi chat with Dr. Jo Wimpenny, author of Beauty of the Beasts, to learn more about wasps, mosquitoes, vultures, sharks, and other unloved animals.We talk about:-why Jo wanted …
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Zazie and Kristi chat with Dr. Jo Wimpenny, author of Beauty of the Beasts, to learn more about wasps, mosquitoes, vultures, sharks, and other unloved animals.
We talk about:-
- why Jo wanted to write about the beasties
- how everything is connected
- the value of wasps and mosquitoes to the ecosystem
- how sharks are not necessarily out to get people (even if sometimes they are)
- whether some animals are over-rated
- which animal Jo most loved writing about
- and finally Jo told us which book she's been reading.
Beauty of the Beasts: Rethinking Nature's Least Loved Animals is available wherever books are sold.
The book Jo recommended to us is The Animals in That Country by Laura Jean McKay.
Previous episodes with Jo:
Also mentioned: Kristi's blog post on making a living in the world.
Jo Wimpenny is a zoologist and writer, with a research background in animal behaviour and the history of science. She studied Zoology at the University of Bristol, and went on to research problem-solving in crows for her DPhil at Oxford University. She’s the author of Aesop’s Animals, which we’ve talked about with her before, and her new book which is just out now is Beauty of the Beasts: Rethinking Nature’s Least Loved Animals.
Jo's website: https://jowimpenny.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jowimpenny/
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Can pet dogs sniff out an invasive species? with Melissa McCue-McGrath
Leave us a voicemail!Can pet dogs use their nose to find the eggs of an invasive species, the spotted lanternfly--and what was it like taking part in citizen science to find out? Zazie and Kristi are joined by …
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Can pet dogs use their nose to find the eggs of an invasive species, the spotted lanternfly--and what was it like taking part in citizen science to find out? Zazie and Kristi are joined by dog trainer and author Melissa McCue-McGrath to learn all about this fun project. We also learn about Melissa's book, Misadventures of the World's Okayest Dog Trainer.
We talk about:
- the nose work classes that Melissa teaches
- why the spotted lanternfly is such a problem
- why Melissa wanted to take part in citizen science
- the real life issues that affected the project
- the training that they did with the dogs
- the field trials at the end of the project
- the real world applications and why it was fun to be part of it
- what Melissa would say to someone considering signing up for a citizen science project with their dog
- why Melissa wrote her new book and what it's about
Misadventures of the World's Okayest Dog Trainer is available wherever books are sold.
Also mentioned:
- BewilderBeasts podcast
- Melissa's interview on DogCast radio
- The Accidental Veterinarian by Philipp Schott
- Tell Me Where it Hurts by Nick Trout
- Bark! Fest with Philipp Schott
- Victoria Stilwell Academy
The books that Melissa recommended are Away To Me by Patricia McConnell and The Discworld Series by Terry Pratchett.
Melissa McCue-McGrath is a professional dog trainer and behaviour consultant. She is a faculty advisor for the Victoria Stilwell Academy and she is the first non-UK person to be accredited with PACT. She’s the author of Considerations for the City Dog, and her new book, Misadventures of the World’s Okayest Dog Trainer, is just out now.
If you liked this, you might also like:
- Why you and your dog will love nose work with Bonnie Hartney (Ep46)
- Human remains detection dogs and historic searches with Kim Cooper and Cat Warren (Ep35)
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Senior dogs and young dogs living together: How to keep everyone safe and happy
Leave us a voicemail!Content warning: The books section at the end of the episode includes subject matter that may be distressing.Having both a senior dog and a young dog in the same home can be wonderful …
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Content warning: The books section at the end of the episode includes subject matter that may be distressing.
Having both a senior dog and a young dog in the same home can be wonderful, revitalizing the older dog and providing company for the younger dog. But it can also have its challenges. Zazie and Kristi talk about how to make sure everyone is happy and stays safe.
We talk about:
- How training can help when you have both an old dog and a young dog or puppy
- What to consider when deciding whether to bring a young dog into your home when you have a senior dog
- Whether bringing a young dog into the home can be beneficial for an old dog
- What kinds of issues people can have in this situation
- When to seek help from a dog trainer for your dog-dog issues
- Management options that can make a difference and help to prevent issues from arising
- We also discuss Zazie's book Bark!s win in the DWAA awards and Zazie shows Kristi her medal
- And finally we chat about the books we've been reading
The webinar that Kristi is presenting for the Pet Professional Guild is called Mixing Young Dogs and Senior Dogs: Management, Safety, and Training on April 8 2026. https://www.petprofessionalguild.com/webinars-events/webinars/mixing-young-and-senior-dogs-management-safety-and-training-with-kristi-benson/
Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog is available wherever books are sold. https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/p/books.html
The Dog Writers Association of America competition details: https://dogwriters.org/winners/
The books we recommend in this episode are:
- Consent: A Memoir by Vanessa Springora trans Natasha Lehrer
- People of Means: A Novel by Nancy Johnson
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
How to help your dog behave with guests with Jeff Millman
Leave us a voicemail!How can you help your dog to like it--and behave well--when visitors come to your home? Zazie and Kristi are joined by dog trainer Jeff Millman, author of Triggers and Reactions: A Guide to …
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How can you help your dog to like it--and behave well--when visitors come to your home? Zazie and Kristi are joined by dog trainer Jeff Millman, author of Triggers and Reactions: A Guide to Fixing Your Dog Behavior Problems, to chat about this common issue.
We talk about:
- Why having your dog jump on guests is in some ways a nice problem to have
- The behaviours we can teach them to do instead
- The signs to look for that would suggest that your dog is shy or fearful of guests
- How to use management when guests come over
- Understanding how to use desensitization and counter conditioning for fearful dogs
- How dog training culture has changed over the years and reward-based methods have become more popular
- What it was like to study at the original Academy for Dog Trainers and how much Jeff loved it
- and finally, we ask Jeff what he's been reading lately
The books recommended by Jeff are:
- When Everyone Knows that Everyone Knows... Common Knowledge and the Mysteries of Money, Power, and Everyday Life by Steven Pinker
- Never: A Novel by Ken Follett
About Jeff Millman: Jeff Millman was always known as an animal fanatic since he was a little boy. After studying journalism, living in Alaska after college while living in a tent, working professionally as an internet consultant and creative director, he studied dog training with the world-famous Jean Donaldson in San Francisco in 2002. Since then, he has been honing his dog training craft while training thousands of dogs. He’s the author of three books, including the two-volume Triggers and Reactions: A Guide to Fixing Dog Behavior Problems. lives in Cary, NC with his two wonderful children, amazing wife, and English Shepherds, Sky and Storm.
Jeff Millman's website: https://www.jeffmillman.com/
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
How to help dogs and cats get along with each other
Leave us a voicemail!Zazie and Kristi talk about how to help dogs and cats get along, and why it all starts with thinking about the cat's feeling of safety.We talk about:the need to manage introductions …
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Zazie and Kristi talk about how to help dogs and cats get along, and why it all starts with thinking about the cat's feeling of safety.
We talk about:
- the need to manage introductions between dogs and cats
- what that means from the dog's perspective, and the cat's perspective
- the importance of letting them vote with their feet
- the need for safe spaces, and how to make safe spaces for a cat
- the idea of training the dog to be safe around cats
- how to keep the peace at mealtimes
- placement of the cat's resources
- whether dogs are ever scared of cats
- how some dogs cannot be trusted to live with a cat
The books we recommend in this episode are:
- Dog Affirmations: An Illustrated Journey Through Your Dog's Thoughts by Andrea Cáceres
- The Little Old Lady Who Broke All the Rules: A Novel by Catharina Ingelman-Sundberg
Previous episodes mentioned in the show:
For more on how to set your house up for your cat, check out Zazie's book Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy, which is available wherever books are sold. Learn more about Zazie's books here.
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Everything you need to know about cat carriers with Dr. Mansum Yau
Leave us a voicemail!What's the best kind of carrier to choose for your cat? We get a veterinarian's perspective from Dr. Mansum Yau, author of The Ins and Outs of Cat Carriers: A Veterinarian's …
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What's the best kind of carrier to choose for your cat? We get a veterinarian's perspective from Dr. Mansum Yau, author of The Ins and Outs of Cat Carriers: A Veterinarian's Guide to Cat Carriers.
We talk about:
- why, as a vet, Dr. Mansum is interested in cat carriers
- what kind of carrier is the best one to choose
- how to help cats be more comfortable at the vet
- how she became a stand-up comedian on top of being a vet, and how humour can help at the vet
- why toothbrushing is so important for cats and how a video of Dr. Mansum brushing her cat's teeth went viral
- the best carriers for adventure cats, and what happened one time with her cat
- what it was like illustrating her book
- and finally, she tells us about a book she's reading
The book Dr. Mansum picked is Bony Legs and Other Stories by Pat Edwards.
Also mentioned in this episode, the cat toothbrushing episode that went viral: https://www.instagram.com/p/DGW-oi1xPSC/
Dr. Mansum Yau graduated from the Ontario Veterinary College in 2010 and earned her certificate in canine massage from the Royal Canadian College of Massage Therapy in 2025. She is Human Animal Bond and Fear Free Level 3 certified and passionate about preventative care and client education. When she is not caring for cats and dogs, she enjoys reading, writing, painting, drawing, performing clean stand-up comedy, raising awareness for endangered animals, and exploring nature with her one-eyed dog, Penny, and adventure cat, Boo. She is the author and illustrator of The Ins and Outs of Cat Carriers: A Veterinarian’s Guide to Cat Carriers, available wherever cat lovers read. She also shares tips for cats and dogs at pet events and on Instagram and YouTube.
Dr. Mansum Yau is on:
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/drmansum/
Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@drmansum
LinkedIn https://ca.linkedin.com/in/drmansum
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Patricia McConnell PhD and her first novel Away to Me
Leave us a voicemail!Away to Me is Patricia McConnell PhD's first mystery novel, and it's gorgeous. Zazie and Kristi chat with Patricia to learn more about the book and why she decided to write …
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Away to Me is Patricia McConnell PhD's first mystery novel, and it's gorgeous. Zazie and Kristi chat with Patricia to learn more about the book and why she decided to write fiction set in the dog world.
We talk about:
- What made Patricia decide to write a mystery novel
- The main character, Maddie McGowan
- Whether it was fun to be writing dogs as characters
- How she wrote about the dogs as real characters & without turning the interactions into negative/aversive ones.
- The many different dog training cases that appear as secondary characters in the book
- Patricia has previously written many wonderful non-fiction books, including her memoir, The Education of Will. What’s different about writing fiction?
- The power and importance of friendships and how dogs are one of the ways that many people can find a community?
- What motivates her to write, and will we see more of Maddie after this?
Away to Me will be published on Feb 24th and is available for pre-order wherever books are sold.
Also mentioned:
- What the Dog Knows by Cat Warren
- Patricia's blog post on finding grace https://www.patriciamcconnell.com/theotherendoftheleash/natl-dog-training-month-or-you-and-54/
- Susanna Daniel and Madison Writers' Studio https://madisonwriters.com/
- Patricia McConnell at Bark! Fest https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/16149739
- The book Patricia recommend is The Salt Stones by Helen Whybrow.
Learn more about Patricia and her book, Away to Me, on her website: https://www.patriciamcconnell.com/
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Caring for dogs vs caring for cats
Leave us a voicemail!How is caring for a dog different than caring for a cat, and what is the same? We talk about what dogs and cats need for a happy life with us.We talk about:Training dogs and training cats …
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How is caring for a dog different than caring for a cat, and what is the same? We talk about what dogs and cats need for a happy life with us.
We talk about:
- Training dogs and training cats (and why you should train your cat)
- The importance of enrichment
- Their sense of smell
- Going places with your dog, but not your cat
- House training
- Vet care and husbandry
- And the books we've been reading.
Also mentioned in this episode:
- There is a training plan to teach your cat to go in their carrier at the end of Zazie's book Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy
- Zazie's blog post on 3 easy ways to start training your cat includes notes on carrier training https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/2023/05/3-easy-ways-to-get-started-with.html
- The husbandry project from the Academy for Dog Trainers https://academyfordogtrainers.com/husbandry-project/
The books are:
- The Black AntiFascist Tradition by Jeanelle K Hope and Bill V Mullen
- Snap: A Novel by Susin Nielson
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
How to help dogs with separation anxiety with Malena DeMartini
Leave us a voicemail!If your dog has separation anxiety, what can you do to help them, how can you cope with not leaving your dog alone for longer than they can handle, and why is it so important? We're …
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If your dog has separation anxiety, what can you do to help them, how can you cope with not leaving your dog alone for longer than they can handle, and why is it so important? We're joined by separation anxiety expert Malena DeMartini to talk about how you can help your dog with their separation-related issues.
We talk about:
- what separation anxiety is and whether other labels like separation-related distress are useful to dog trainers and dog guardians
- what it means to suspend absences for your dog
- how video helps to show the moment when the dog starts to get distressed, and what happens before that
- why it's important to speak to a vet about medication for separation anxiety
- how crates are not the answer for dogs with separation anxiety
- how dog trainers can become certified to work with separation anxiety cases (CSATs) through Malena's school
- And Malena tells us about a book she loves
Malena DeMartini is a Certified Trainer and Counselor (CTC) and a Certified Dog Behavior Consultant (CDBC). Since 2001, she has specialized exclusively in canine separation anxiety, having worked hundreds of cases and constantly innovating to find better ways to treat the condition and support guardians, other trainers, rescues, and shelters. Malena is the author of two ground-breaking books, Separation Anxiety in Dogs, Next Generation in Treatment Protocols and Practices (2020) and Treating Separation Anxiety in Dogs. is the founder of the prestigious Separation Anxiety Certification Program (SACP), which has graduated hundreds of Certified Separation Anxiety Trainers (CSATs) across the globe. She also has an online self-paced course, Mission: POSSIBLE, which is an invaluable resource.
Learn more at https://malenademartini.com/
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Holiday Special with Dr. Jo Wimpenny, Dr. Marc Bekoff, and Erica Beckwith CTC
Leave us a voicemail!In this special episode, Zazie and Kristi are joined by some of the most popular guests from previous episodes to chat about all things animal behaviour, including dogs, cats, ants …
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In this special episode, Zazie and Kristi are joined by some of the most popular guests from previous episodes to chat about all things animal behaviour, including dogs, cats, ants, penguins, and crows.
We talk about:
- with Jo Wimpenny, PhD, author of Aesop's Animals, we talk about The Ant and the Grasshopper and how we know whether or not animals can plan ahead--plus we get exciting news about her next book
- Zazie and Kristi chat about their highlights of the year
- with Marc Bekoff, PhD, author of The Emotional Lives of Animals (and many other books) we talk about ethology, his research with penguins, and whether animals have rituals
- Zazie and Kristi chat about Holiday rituals
- with Erica Beckwith CTC of A Matter of Manners Dog Training, we talk about how to get cute Holiday photos of your pets
- and finally we share which books we've been reading
The full show notes are available on the Companion Animal Psychology website: https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/
Previous episodes with these guests:
- Animal minds and our favourite fables with Jo Wimpenny , PhD https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/14597289
- Canine emotions and perceptions with Marc Bekoff PhD, Zazie Todd PhD, and Cat Warren at Bark! Fest https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/16276537
- Animal emotions with Marc Bekoff, PhD, at Bark! Fest https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/17148973
- The benefits of tricks training for dogs and cats with Erica Beckwith https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/12793661
Also mentioned in this episode:
- Preorder Beauty of the Beasts by Jo Wimpenny https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/beauty-of-the-beasts-9781399417617/
- Ask Me Anything about Fearful and Reactive Dogs https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/18168422
- Wild Rituals by Caitlin O'Connell
- Jane Goodall
- Erica Beckwith's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/amatterofmannersdogtraining/
The books we chose are:
- A Woman Among Wolves by Diane K Boyd
- 4 Days a Week by Juliet B Schor
- The Passengers on the Hankyu Line by Hiro Arikawa trans. Allison Markin Powell
- Dare I Say It by Naomi Watts
Learn more about:
Dr. Jo Wimpenny https://jowimpenny.com/
Dr. Marc Bekoff https://marcbekoff.com/
Erica Beckwith CTC https://www.amatterofmannersdogtraining.com/
Kristi Benson CTC https://www.kristibenson.com/
Zazie Todd, PhD https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/ (This is also where you'll find full show notes and a transcript).
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Dog bites: Ask Me Anything with Carri Westgarth PhD
Leave us a voicemail!Zazie and Kristi are joined by Prof. Carri Westgarth to answer your questions about dog bites, how to avoid getting bitten by a dog, and what to do if you have been bitten by a dog.We …
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Zazie and Kristi are joined by Prof. Carri Westgarth to answer your questions about dog bites, how to avoid getting bitten by a dog, and what to do if you have been bitten by a dog.
We talked about:
- Why dogs bite
- How to use management to keep people safe from dogs
- How to keep children safe from dog bites
- What to do if a loose dog charges you
- How to regain trust if your own dog has bitten you
- The difference between predatory behaviour and fear aggression
- The systemic factors that can make a difference to the prevalence of dog bites, and why education is only part of the answer
- Why Breed Specific Legislation isn't the solution to dog bites
- And more!
Also mentioned in this episode:
- Dr. Sophia Yin's video with loose dogs (correction: it was in Australia) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhm36dDFrk4
- The Care for Reactive Dogs website https://careforreactivedogs.com/
- Zazie's email list. Sign up here: https://companionanimalpsychology.kit.com/a88e8d1a2a
Books by Prof. Carri Westgarth:
- The Happy Dog Owner
- Dog Bites: A Multidisciplinary Perspective (co-edited with Daniel Mills)
Books by Zazie Todd PhD:
- Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy
- Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog
Professor Carri Westgarth is Chair in Human-Animal Interaction at the University of Liverpool with a passion for understanding the relationships we have with our pets. With a background in animal behaviour and dog training she has trained in veterinary epidemiology and human public health. Her research interests focus on the implications of dog ownership for human health and wellbeing, but also how owner management of their dogs can impact dog welfare. Both quantitative and qualitative research methods are used to tackle her primary research questions of how to improve population health through the promotion of dog walking, and how to prevent dog bites. Her expertise on understanding and changing the behaviour of dog owners is sought by many organisations wishing to prevent dog bites and promote ‘responsible’ dog owner behaviour, such as her work as a consultant for Royal Mail. She is also a Full Member of the Association of Pet Behaviour Counsellors and founder of the Merseyside Dog Safety Partnership. In her spare time Carri teaches dog training classes, and previously was a professional Assistance Dog Instructor. Her practical experience in many areas relating to dogs, combined with a multi-disciplinary academic perspective, gives unique strength and relevance to her expertise.
Website: https://www.liverpool.ac.uk/people/carri-westgarth
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Why you and your dog will love nose work with Bonnie Hartney
Leave us a voicemail!We learn what canine scent work is, why it's so good for dogs, and how to get started--and progress--in this activity with Certified Nose Work Instructor Bonnie Hartney of Ocean Park …
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We learn what canine scent work is, why it's so good for dogs, and how to get started--and progress--in this activity with Certified Nose Work Instructor Bonnie Hartney of Ocean Park Dog Training.
We talk about:
- How Bonnie got started in scent work and how the activity first came about
- Why scent work is fun for dogs and for their humans
- What to expect at a beginner class
- Whether scent work is for all dogs
- The kinds of scent that are used, how dogs progress to searching for a target odour, and the kinds of searches they do
- What Bonnie has learned about her dogs from doing scent work
- How Kristi's dog Archer is likely to do at scent work if she tries it
- Differences between scent work classes and professional scent work
If you'd like to try nose work, Bonnie recommends:
National Association of Canine Scent Work: https://www.nacsw.net/
Find an Instructor https://education.k9nosework.com/instructor_extsearch
Online Scent Training with Scent Work University:
https://www.scentworku.com/collections/foundation-sniffing-program
For shy and fearful dogs with Kelly Lee; https://www.dogkindtraining.com/sniff
The book Bonnie chose is Finding Flora by Elinor Florence.
Bonnie Hartney is the owner and head instructor/trainer of Ocean Park Dog Training in Surrey, BC, which is AnimalKind accredited. Bonnie is a force-free, reward-based dog training professional, who brings knowledge and experience working with shelter dogs and pet dogs to advance other’s understanding of pet dog behaviour. Bonnie earned her CTC (Certificate in Training and Counselling) from a distinguished, international leader, Jean Donaldson at the Academy for Dog Trainers. To further her understanding of scent detection for pet dogs, Bonnie studied with NACSW (National Association of Canine Scent Work) founders and is a certified CNWI (Certified NoseWork Instructor) with 9 years experience teaching Nose Work. For over 25 years, Bonnie has volunteered and worked with the BC SPCA, helping shelter dogs to be adopted. Currently they have Nose Work classes every day of the week with 4 certified Nose Work Instructors and more than 95 dog teams.
Bonnie's website, Ocean Park Dog Training https://www.oceanparkdogtraining.com/
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/oceanparkdogtraining/ and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/oceanparkdog/
You might also like Ep 35 on human remains detection dogs with Kim Cooper and Cat Warren https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/17384889
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Reactive and fearful dogs: Your questions answered
Leave us a voicemail!We hosted an Ask Me Anything on anxious, fearful, and reactive dogs. You asked some incredible questions, and this is the result.We talked about:How to find the starting place for working …
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We hosted an Ask Me Anything on anxious, fearful, and reactive dogs. You asked some incredible questions, and this is the result.
We talked about:
- How to find the starting place for working with anxious dogs
- Helping dogs who are afraid of elevators
- Fear of strangers
- Helping reactive dogs in tricky environments like apartment buildings and cities
- Reactivity to other dogs
- Fear of loud noises
- How the unfortunate side effects of shock collars can persist after training is over
- How to persuade people not to use aversives
- and more!
Also mentioned in this episode: Understanding resource guarding in dogs (and what to do about it) with Lisa Skavienski https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/12905737 (episode 8)
Thank you to everyone who sent in questions for this episode and/or who attended the live event. If you'd like to see more events like this, let us know!
This event was arranged to celebrate the publication of my book Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, which is available wherever books are sold, including Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Bark-Science-Helping-Anxious-Reactive/dp/1778403328/ and Greystone Books https://greystonebooks.com/products/bark
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Conservation dogs and Deadly Trade by Sara Driscoll
Leave us a voicemail!We talk about the real world of conservation dogs and the fictional world of FBI dogs and conservation canines with Jen J. Danna, who writes under the name Sara Driscoll. Deadly Trade is …
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We talk about the real world of conservation dogs and the fictional world of FBI dogs and conservation canines with Jen J. Danna, who writes under the name Sara Driscoll. Deadly Trade is the latest FBI K-9 mystery from author Sara Driscoll. K-9 handler Meg Jennings can never walk away from her job, even amid her Hawaiian Islands honeymoon, where she and her search-and-rescue black Lab encounter a double threat from wildlife poachers and Mother Nature.
We talked about:
- The work of conservation dogs and what they do on the Hawaiian islands
- Why Sara was inspired to write about conservation canines in Deadly Trade
- How to write about dogs as characters in their own right
- The kind of training that Hawk, the FBI canine, and the conservation dogs in the book would go through in real life
- How the dogs influence the success of the mission
- How Hawk picks up on things his handler, Meg, can't
- Why Sara chose to write about endangered birds
- What it's like writing with a co-author
- And as always, we ask for a book recommendation!
Deadly Trade is published on 28th October 2025 and is available from all good bookstores.
Sara Driscoll is the pen name of Jen J. Danna, coauthor of the Abbott and Lowell Forensic Mysteries and author of the FBI K-9 Mysteries and NYPD Negotiators series. After over 30 years in infectious diseases research, Jen hung up her lab coat to concentrate on her real love—writing “exceptional” thrillers (Publishers Weekly). She is a member of the Crime Writers of Canada and lives with her husband and four rescued cats outside of Toronto, Ontario.
Learn more about Sara Driscoll on her websites, saradriscollauthor.com and https://jenjdanna.com/.
Also mentioned in this episode:
- Away to Me by Patricia McConnell PhD will be published in February 2026 and is available for pre-order now
- You can hear Patricia McConnell talking about the book at 2024's Bark! Fest, which is available as a previous episode of this podcast https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/16149739
- Learn about the work of historical scent detection dogs in an episode with Kim Cooper and Cat Warren https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/17384889
- The Hawaiian crow is the ‘Alalā. Learn about the ‘Alalā project https://dlnr.hawaii.gov/alalaproject/
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
Demand barking in dogs (and what to do about it)
Leave us a voicemail!Demand barking is a type of barking that dogs do to get something they want, like a treat, toy, or attention. It happens because we've previously (accidentally) rewarded them for it …
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Demand barking is a type of barking that dogs do to get something they want, like a treat, toy, or attention. It happens because we've previously (accidentally) rewarded them for it. So what should you do if your dog is demand barking?
In this episode, we talk about:
- How dogs bark for different reasons, including watchdog barking and barking due to fear
- What demand barking is
- Why the phrase "demand barking" is actually a bit of a misnomer
- We give examples of demand barking, including when Zazie's dog Pepper does this
- We share ideas and tips for what to do about it
- Kristi talks about why she set up a course on this and what's included
- And finally we talk about the books we're reading.
The books we recommend in this episode are:
- Spoiler Alert: You're Gonna Die by Korttany Finn and Jacquie Purcell
- Junie: A Novel by Chelene Knight
Also mentioned in this episode:
- The episode on harmonious multidog households and resource guarding in dogs https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/17835523
- The episode on how to help your reactive or fearful dog https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/17695165
- The Hogan's Alley Society https://www.hogansalleysociety.org/
Learn more about Kristi Benson and her courses: https://www.kristibenson.com/
Learn more about Zazie Todd: https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/p/home.html
Get Zazie's books from all good bookstores or here: https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/p/books.html
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
How to get started in dog sports with Ayoka Bubar
Leave us a voicemail!Dog sports are fun activities for you and your dog, but with so many to choose from, it can feel daunting to get started. We demystify dog sports with trainer Ayoka Bubar, a Rally Obedience …
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Dog sports are fun activities for you and your dog, but with so many to choose from, it can feel daunting to get started. We demystify dog sports with trainer Ayoka Bubar, a Rally Obedience judge who has taught (and tried) many different sports. She shares the details and tells us how to match sports to dogs.
We talked about:
- Why Ayoka loves dog sports
- Why dog sports are good for dogs
- We get examples: rally o, tricks training, barn hunt, and carting
- Which kinds of dogs and people these sports are best for
- The best place to start if someone is interested in trying a dog sport
- The role of a dog's breed in choosing a dog sport
- Which dog sports are suitable for reactive and fearful dogs
- What Ayoka has learned from doing so many different dog sports
- The kind of community that is found amongst dog sports people
- And as always, we get a book recommendation
Ayoka chose Atomic Habits by James Clear as her book choice.
Ayoka Bubar is an approved judge for the Canadian Association of Rally Obedience and she never passes up an opportunity to try a new sport with her Rottweilers. She has trained or trialed in Flyball, Agility, Tracking, Trick Titling, Herding, Rally Obedience, Mondioring, IGP, and Scentwork, so she is the perfect person to tell us about dog sports. As well, Ayoka believes that dog training should be fun for dogs and their humans, which we love to hear. And she likes to use positive reinforcement techniques to help handlers communicate more effectively with their dogs.
Learn more and get details of classes at https://ayokabubar.com/
Ayoka on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ayoka.bubar
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theogrottendog/
Also mentioned in this episode:
Bark! The Science of Making Your Dog Happy by Zazie Todd. Available wherever books are sold.
Tricks classes by Erica Beckwith of A Matter of Manners Dog Training https://www.amatterofmannersdogtraining.com/
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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