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Welcome to Dadville! Join musicians and sometimes-comedians Dave Barnes and Jon McLaughlin in the journey of life, love and the pursuit of dad-ding on the Dadville Podcast. Get your fill of dad jokes, laughs, and heartfelt conversations while these guests talk about parenting while leaving you with new lessons for your own kids.  Stick around for visits from Momville as each share their unique insight into this crazy world of parenting. Pull up a lawn chair and join every Tuesday.

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  1. How to Talk to Kids About Hard Things with Michael Keller and Eliott Cherry

    1 Std. 25 Min.

    In this candid and hilarious episode, the fellas sit down with NYC pastor Michael Keller and his best friend (and official pastor of Dadville) Elliott Cherry. Growing up in the shadow of his late father …

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    In this candid and hilarious episode, the fellas sit down with NYC pastor Michael Keller and his best friend (and official pastor of Dadville) Elliott Cherry. Growing up in the shadow of his late father, legendary pastor Tim Keller, Michael shares what it was really like being a pastor’s kid, stepping away from inherited faith, and discovering his own identity in Christ.

    Together, the dads unpack key insights from Michael’s books, The Stories We Live By and Talking to Kids About Hard Things, exploring why modern culture’s "you do you" narratives leave parents exhausted and anxious. Instead of striving for perfect parenting, Michael explains why kids don't need flawlessness—they need parents who model repentance, grace, and quick forgiveness when things go wrong. Packed with faith-filled wisdom, disc golf reality checks, and middle-child banter, this episode offers an essential roadmap for navigating fatherhood with authentic grace.


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    All Things Jon: http://jonmcl.com

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  2. Do Parents Have to Attend Every Game?

    1 Std.

    Do you have to attend every one of your child’s games? And why can missing just one still feel like such a big deal? Dave Barnes and Jon McLaughlin return for part two of their everyday etiquette conversation …

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    Do you have to attend every one of your child’s games? And why can missing just one still feel like such a big deal? Dave Barnes and Jon McLaughlin return for part two of their everyday etiquette conversation on Dadville. They compare notes on birthday-party drop-offs, parenting expectations, correcting a spouse’s story, and the fine line between helping a friend and taking over. There are also neighborhood lawn-mowing debates, airplane armrest opinions, and a surprisingly involved discussion about who gets to tend the fire. In this episode: The difference between wanting to attend and feeling required to attend. Birthday invitations that leave parents guessing. When a correction changes a story—and when it just stops the fun. Why helping can feel different depending on whether the host is standing right there. Touring updates, Christmas music, and Jon’s coffee-shop research. Join us: http://dadville.substack.com

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  3. “You Plant Songs in the Ground”: Drew Baldridge

    1 Std. 29 Min.

    Drew Baldridge grew up on a small family farm in Illinois, where your value was measured in how much work you got done. In this conversation with Dave Barnes and Jon McLaughlin, he explains how that mindset …

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    Drew Baldridge grew up on a small family farm in Illinois, where your value was measured in how much work you got done. In this conversation with Dave Barnes and Jon McLaughlin, he explains how that mindset carried him through more than a decade in Nashville and a viral wedding video that still didn’t land him a record deal.

    You’ll hear how Drew pulled together his own radio team from out-of-work industry pros, hand-wrote more than 200 notes to stations, and took “She’s Somebody’s Daughter” to No. 1 five years after it came out. He also talks about what farm life taught him about risk, why he calls hard work both his superpower and a cost, and how honest feedback from his own dad shapes the way he thinks about raising kids.

    Along the way: a round of Farm or Fake, a field fire fought with buckets from a cousin’s pool, his three-year-old son Lyric’s stage presence, and the night a label put Brantley Gilbert’s songs on his new CDs.

    If you’re a parent trying to work out what success is actually worth, press play. Subscribe, and find more at http://dadville.substack.com.

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  4. Dadville x Brave & Big: Golf Controversies, Slipknot Lyrics, and Balancing Fatherhood with Hobbies

    1 Std. 4 Min.

    Dave Barnes and Jon McLaughlin team up with Joey and Chris from the Brave and Big podcast for a special crossover episode! The guys kick off with a hilarious round of "Dadville or Slipknot" before tackling the …

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    Dave Barnes and Jon McLaughlin team up with Joey and Chris from the Brave and Big podcast for a special crossover episode! The guys kick off with a hilarious round of "Dadville or Slipknot" before tackling the viral golf post that had offended golfers flooding their comments.

    Together, they dive deep into the real question: How do dads balance personal hobbies without escaping family responsibilities? From navigating "wartime" parenting with young kids to processing the sobering stat that 90% of time with kids happens before age 18, the hosts discuss building healthy family rhythms, "rupture and repair" in parenting, and why you should always assume the best in your relationship with your children. Plus, actionable 7-day takeaways to connect with your kids this week.

    Hosted by Joey and Chris, Brave and Big focuses on taking daily steps to live a brave, big, and intentional life.

    🌐 Website: ⁠braveandbig.com⁠ 📸 Instagram: ⁠@braveandbigpod⁠


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  5. Music, Mindsets, and Making a Difference in Waco with Justin Rosolino

    1 Std. 10 Min.

    In this episode of Dadville, Dave Barnes and Jon McLaughlin welcome back close friend and musical powerhouse Justin Rosolino. The guys kick off with behind-the-scenes audio chaos and memories of meeting in …

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    In this episode of Dadville, Dave Barnes and Jon McLaughlin welcome back close friend and musical powerhouse Justin Rosolino. The guys kick off with behind-the-scenes audio chaos and memories of meeting in Muncie, Indiana—where Justin initially mistook Jon McLaughlin for a jazz-fusion guitar icon.


    Justin opens up about his journey from performing R&B at the Apollo Theater as a kid and touring with artists like Vince Gill and Amy Grant, to stepping away from full-time music to teach high school history. He shares how late-night conversations with Joanna Gaines led to his role leading community engagement at Magnolia, where he helps drive initiatives like the Magnolia Scholars program at McLennan Community College.


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  6. Danny Wuerffel: From Heisman Winner to Desire Street Ministries

    1 Std. 3 Min.

    Danny Wuerffel's résumé reads like a movie that would be too perfect to believe. He won four straight SEC titles at Florida, a national championship, and the 1996 Heisman Trophy. He's in the College Football …

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    Danny Wuerffel's résumé reads like a movie that would be too perfect to believe. He won four straight SEC titles at Florida, a national championship, and the 1996 Heisman Trophy. He's in the College Football Hall of Fame, and there's a road named after him. In this episode of Dadville, Dave and Jon ask what it's like to live that and then decide what comes next.

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  7. Einstein Couldn't Fix a Dryer Either

    49 Min.

    Welcome back to Dadville! In this episode, we’re balancing a little benevolent self-promotion with essential dad business. First up, we share our upcoming Christmas tour dates—from Jon’s live debut in Hoover …

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    Welcome back to Dadville! In this episode, we’re balancing a little benevolent self-promotion with essential dad business. First up, we share our upcoming Christmas tour dates—from Jon’s live debut in Hoover, Alabama to Dave’s return to the Schermerhorn in Nashville.

    Next, 44-year-old Jon details wielding a new $10 drywall saw to carve out a 6-foot hole in his wall, fix a leaking PVC pipe with IKEA kids' table scraps, and disassemble his dryer using neighbor Andrew’s borrowed multimeter. Then, we officially convene "Etiquette Court" to rule on life's burning social dilemmas.

    We debate whether it's okay to ghost a party, why swiping phone photos leads to unwanted rash pictures, the glory of 2x-speed voice memos, splitting checks when you only drink "horse tea", and why touching another man’s thermostat is an absolute crime. Grab your tools, check your manners, and enjoy the show!


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  8. How to Stop Throwing Milk at Your Kids with Will Mooney

    1 Std. 8 Min.

    In this episode of Dadville, we sat down with counselor and family friend Will Mooney to talk about what it actually takes to show up well for our kids. We dive deep into the core truth that "more is caught …

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    In this episode of Dadville, we sat down with counselor and family friend Will Mooney to talk about what it actually takes to show up well for our kids. We dive deep into the core truth that "more is caught than taught"—our children mirror our emotional health far more than our verbal lectures. Will opens up about his journey into counseling, helping us unpack shadow selves, old personal baggage, and inevitable parenting ruptures (including an infamous milk-throwing incident!). 

    From overanalyzing innocent spouse questions about water bottles to surviving school drop-off lines, we discuss why doing internal self-work is the ultimate parenting strategy. We explore how vulnerability and honest repair model resilience, why we don't need to act like unfazed cowboys, and why no parent should navigate this journey alone. Join us for a funny, deeply honest, and practical conversation about turning daily chaos into meaningful growth and fatherhood connection.

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  9. How to Fix Your State’s Biggest Problems (Without Waiting on Politicians) with Robert Cunningham

    1 Std. 46 Min.

    This week, we sit down with our good friend Robert Cunningham—pastor, writer, speaker, and founder of Christ for Kentucky. We kick things off with a crucial parenting debate: can YouTube piano tutorials replace …

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    This week, we sit down with our good friend Robert Cunningham—pastor, writer, speaker, and founder of Christ for Kentucky. We kick things off with a crucial parenting debate: can YouTube piano tutorials replace traditional music lessons? Then, Robert gets honest about making a massive career pivot away from a comfortable pastorship with four kids and zero financial safety net to launch his own ministry. We also dig into his incredible work erasing $250 million in medical debt for Kentucky families, why future generations might judge our smartphone habits like lead paint, and how we can approach complex cultural debates around faith and identity with disarming humility. It’s a funny, honest, and thought-provoking conversation on raising boys, trusting God, and navigating major life transitions. Grab your favorite cup of coffee and join us in Dadville!

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    Topics

    00:00 – Welcome to Dadville & The Great Piano Lesson Debate

    03:45 – Introducing Robert Cunningham

    07:30 – Navigating the Career Pivot Without a Safety Net

    18:15 – Reimagining Wealth Stewardship & Kingdom Investment

    26:00 – Erasing \$250 Million in Medical Debt for Kentucky Families

    36:30 – Public Strategy, Age Verification, and Protecting Kids from Tech Addiction

    46:15 – Moving Beyond Online Echo Chambers

    53:00 – The Beauty of Christian Ethics & Theology of the Body

    1:01:30 – Deconstructing the Modern Identity Fallacy

    1:18:00 – Grace, Complexity, and Wholehearted Discipleship

    1:30:00 – Wrapping Up in Dadville

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  10. Are We Becoming Our Dads?

    56 Min.

    We’re catching up on the back-to-school flow and having some honest, vulnerable talks about our 40s. We laugh about the exact ways we are becoming our dads, from driving like grandmas to stockpiling ten of …

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    We’re catching up on the back-to-school flow and having some honest, vulnerable talks about our 40s. We laugh about the exact ways we are becoming our dads, from driving like grandmas to stockpiling ten of everything in the garage. We also reflect on what we’d tell our younger 25-year-old selves (hint: relax!) and why we need to stop focusing so much on the worries "just out of frame".

    Finally, we draft our ultimate Dadville Hall of Fame, sharing our favorite dad gear like sleep machines, Nike Cortez shoes, and our family-favorite card game, Play Nine. Grab a spoonful of peanut butter and join us!

    Since we spent so much time laughing about our inherited traits, would you like to create a personalized "Are You Becoming Your Dad?" quiz to see how your own habits stack up against our slow driving, lawn maintenance standards, and medicine cabinet stockpiles?

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  11. Simple Rules for Being Fully Present at Home with Jordan Raynor

    54 Min.

    Today, we sat down with entrepreneur and author Jordan Raynor, and honestly, we had so much fun reminiscing about Jordan's freshman year at Florida State that we practically skipped our own intro. Once we got …

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    Today, we sat down with entrepreneur and author Jordan Raynor, and honestly, we had so much fun reminiscing about Jordan's freshman year at Florida State that we practically skipped our own intro. Once we got past the twenty years of nostalgia, Jordan totally reframed how we look at our daily grind.

    We talked about why our Monday-through-Friday work has intrinsic value to God—meaning Dave's songwriting and Jon's upcoming Christmas shows are deeply sacred, not just secular. Jordan shared incredible, practical advice for staying present with our kids, like holding "stop-doing" meetings and converting our smartphones into temporary landlines. Our absolute favorite takeaway? The liberating truth that we can peacefully leave "unfinished symphonies" behind in this life because eternity is filled with purposeful, joyful work.

    So grab a seat in Dadville—you won't want to miss this episode!


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  12. Forgiving Everyone All at Once with Ian Morgan Cron

    1 Std. 2 Min.

    Welcome back to Dadville! Today, we’re sitting down with our incredibly learned friend, Ian Morgan Cron. We usually try to keep things light and funny, but Ian brought some serious "strings on the bridge" …

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    Welcome back to Dadville! Today, we’re sitting down with our incredibly learned friend, Ian Morgan Cron. We usually try to keep things light and funny, but Ian brought some serious "strings on the bridge" energy to this one. As an author, psychotherapist, former priest, and Dove Award-winning songwriter, he’s basically a vocational tossed salad.


    We dive deep into his complicated childhood with an alcoholic father, how we all inevitably screw up our kids, and why we need to let everyone—and ourselves—out of the penalty box. Jon got to geek out over being a fellow Enneagram Four, and Dave sat up a little straighter to show off his youthful "vigor". Truly, Ian reminded us that we’re just growing up alongside our kids, and that at the end of the day, we're in good hands. Enjoy this episode with the lovely man of permission himself!

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  13. Kidville: The Daughters Take Over!

    44 Min.

    We’ve officially lost control of the microphones. Welcome to a special episode of Dadville—or as our daughters Zanna and Liv have rebranded it, Kidville. We thought we were the consummate podcasters, but the …

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    We’ve officially lost control of the microphones. Welcome to a special episode of Dadville—or as our daughters Zanna and Liv have rebranded it, Kidville. We thought we were the consummate podcasters, but the girls immediately put us in the hot seat to expose our deepest, most embarrassing secrets.

    We're talking about Dave pre-unwrapping a pocketful of Jolly Ranchers during church hymns so they don’t crackle, and our classic grocery store panic calls because we can't find the basil. Nothing was safe—from Ringo Starr’s lack of outfit "curb appeal" to the time Ireland's Starbucks cold foam tasted exactly like cardboard. They even recap Liv's legendary Shake Shack sprint in Chicago and grill us on our favorite child.

    Please listen to this chaotic takeover, buy their upcoming merchandise, and cast Zanna in a movie because she's officially "nice and famous"!

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  14. Marriage, Money, and the Mirror with Rachel Cruze

    1 Std. 7 Min.

    In this episode, the fellas welcome financial expert Rachel Cruze to discuss the intersection of money, mindset, and family. As the daughter of Dave Ramsey, Cruze shares insights on growing up with a "money …

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    In this episode, the fellas welcome financial expert Rachel Cruze to discuss the intersection of money, mindset, and family. As the daughter of Dave Ramsey, Cruze shares insights on growing up with a "money guy" and how she has carved her own path through best-selling books and speaking.


    Rachel talks about how money is less about math and more about behaviour, focusing on intentional parenting through "commissions" rather than allowances and the "half-car rule". The trio delves into the struggle of navigating social media pressure and defining a family’s financial "baseline" in a world of "infinity pools". Cruze also provides tactical advice for marriages, urging couples to align on shared goals and use budgeting to find permission to spend. This deep dive offers a roadmap for families to build a legacy of contentment and financial peace.

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  15. The 13-Year-Old Self Rule: Charlie Worsham on Success and Perspective

    1 Std. 25 Min.

    In this episode, the fellas sit down with Charlie Worsham, the CMA’s reigning Musician of the Year and a true "multihyphenate" talent. Charlie shares his incredible trajectory, from winning national banjo …

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    In this episode, the fellas sit down with Charlie Worsham, the CMA’s reigning Musician of the Year and a true "multihyphenate" talent. Charlie shares his incredible trajectory, from winning national banjo titles at age 12 to playing in the bands of legends like Vince Gill. He dives deep into his "13-year-old self rule," a mental practice that helps him maintain gratitude for his career, even on the hardest days.

    The trio then chats about the "hard shift" of returning home from the road and the intentional ways he is showing up for his children through heartfelt journaling and obsessive financial planning. Whether discussing his new independent record, Once Upon a Second Time Around, or the sociology of corporate gigs, Charlie offers a masterclass in humility, resilience, and the pursuit of a meaningful musical community.

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  16. Tyler Staton: The Dad Tax and Other Holy Subtractions

    1 Std. 1 Min.

    In this episode, the fellas interview Tyler Staton, lead pastor of Bridgetown Church and author of Praying Like Monks, Living Like Fools. Tyler shares his journey from a middle-school prayer revival in …

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    In this episode, the fellas interview Tyler Staton, lead pastor of Bridgetown Church and author of Praying Like Monks, Living Like Fools. Tyler shares his journey from a middle-school prayer revival in Nashville to navigating faith in New York and Portland. He offers a profound look at contemplative prayer, which he defines as sitting "naked and unashamed" before God to settle the inner "snow globe" of surface-level wants.


    Moving into fatherhood, Tyler details his hands-on discipleship with his three sons, including a 10% pastry "dad tax" and using jelly beans to encourage emotional honesty. The episode highlights Tyler’s pursuit of being a more "interruptible" and playful father, revealing how daily Nerf wars became his most formative spiritual practice of the year. Balancing humor with depth, they also discuss the "Angel of Light" temptation to do good things for the wrong reasons.

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  17. Eric Hutchinson's Unplugged Norwegian Disaster

    1 Std. 3 Min.

    Musician Eric Hutchinson makes history on Dadville by doing the impossible: arriving early. From the massive independent success of his album Sounds Like This to the "soul-crushing" reality of playing early …

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    Musician Eric Hutchinson makes history on Dadville by doing the impossible: arriving early. From the massive independent success of his album Sounds Like This to the "soul-crushing" reality of playing early college gigs next to loud smoothie machines, Hutchinson joins Dave Barnes and Jon McLaughlin for a deep dive into a career built outside the typical "big machine" path.

    Now a New York City dad, Eric discusses the "vast amount of humanity" found in raising his daughter, Zelda—navigating everything from sophisticated Monday night jazz shows to encounters with subway crack smokers. It is a candid conversation about the importance of modeling passion for your kids, the creative challenge of making music that stays fresh after twenty years, and the bittersweet reality of the fatherhood musical: "Long Days, Short Years."

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  18. Glamping Fails & "Taxpayer Funded" Camps: A Dadville Summer Update

    1 Std. 6 Min.

    In this episode of Dadville, the fellas dive into the chaos of summer parenting. Jon shares the "play-by-play" heartbreak of his daughter’s first sleep away camp experience, and Dave recounts a childhood "life …

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    In this episode of Dadville, the fellas dive into the chaos of summer parenting. Jon shares the "play-by-play" heartbreak of his daughter’s first sleep away camp experience, and Dave recounts a childhood "life of crime" involving a camp nurse and a missing stitch.

    But it’s not all jokes—the guys get vulnerable about aging in the music industry. They discuss what success meant at 30 versus what it means now at 48, the "Blue Button" hypothetical involving Harry Styles, and how to find contentment without losing your ambition. Plus, a hilarious recap of their "glamping" trip in Yellowstone where temperatures dropped to the 40s in a tent.




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  19. Aim for a B+ With Lee C. Camp

    1 Std. 29 Min.

    In this episode of Dadville, we sat down with Lee C. Camp, a professor of theology and ethics who has spent over two decades helping people wrestle with what it means to live a life worth living. While he is …

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    In this episode of Dadville, we sat down with Lee C. Camp, a professor of theology and ethics who has spent over two decades helping people wrestle with what it means to live a life worth living. While he is the host of the nationally syndicated show No Small Endeavor, Lee got remarkably vulnerable about his own "spiral" into depression at age 47 and the "unresolved crap" he had to address within his own family.

    We were especially moved by his "85% rule" for parenting, which suggests that a 15% margin for error is a liberating way to teach kids about humility and apologies. He also shared the reality of his "serenity tax"—living without a cell phone for nearly a decade to avoid the "claws of technology". From stories about sons cutting ethernet cables to his deep dive into cardinal virtues, Lee reminds us that the "good life" is a beautiful, iterative process.

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  20. How to Survive an Empty Nest with Jon Acuff

    1 Std. 10 Min.

    We are thrilled to welcome back three-time guest Jon Acuff. As a New York Times bestselling author, Jon has built a career helping people stop overthinking and finally get unstuck. In this episode, we tackle …

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    We are thrilled to welcome back three-time guest Jon Acuff. As a New York Times bestselling author, Jon has built a career helping people stop overthinking and finally get unstuck. In this episode, we tackle the "architecture of enough" and the transition to empty nesting. Jon shares insights from his new book, Procrastination Proof, explaining how procrastination is often a failed "solution" for fear and why we need permission to win. We also discuss shifting your motivation fuel from fear to service and Jon's practical discipline hack: "make tomorrow easy today". Join us for a conversation that will leave you both inspired and lightly roasted.

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  21. Sara Watkins’ Urgent Advice for Balancing Art and Family

    1 Std. 11 Min.

    We sat down with 4-time Grammy winner Sara Watkins to solve a problem every professional faces: How do you maintain a 30-year career without burning out or losing your creative edge? From founding Nickel Creek …

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    We sat down with 4-time Grammy winner Sara Watkins to solve a problem every professional faces: How do you maintain a 30-year career without burning out or losing your creative edge? From founding Nickel Creek at age eight to touring with icons like Jackson Browne, Sara has mastered the "communal dance" of longevity.

    In this session, we tackle the high-stakes pressure of performance anxiety. Sara reveals the counterintuitive secret that transformed her art: how motherhood taught her to stop "sweating the small stuff," making her a more fearless performer. We break down her blueprint for navigating complex team dynamics, the power of "side-person" leadership, and why she treats music as an essential life skill—like math or cooking—to avoid the traps of forced practice. If you’re struggling to balance ego with collaborative success, Sara’s "osmotic" approach to learning will revolutionize your workflow. This is your masterclass in staying grounded while scaling your talent.

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  22. A Survival Guide for Managing Summer Chaos at Home | Dadville Podcast with Dave Barnes and Jon McLaughlin

    50 Min.

    Welcome to a special video edition of Dadville! We’re kicking things off with Dave’s high-energy celebration of Arsenal’s Premier League victory and a deep dive into why sports culture feels like family. Then …

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    Welcome to a special video edition of Dadville! We’re kicking things off with Dave’s high-energy celebration of Arsenal’s Premier League victory and a deep dive into why sports culture feels like family.

    Then, we pivot to the "frontal assault" of summer parenting. As school rhythms fade, we share our best survival "tips and tricks" to keep the chaos at bay. Discover the power of tangible bucket lists—featuring everything from Walmart trips to visiting local glass-blowing studios—and learn how to manage screen time by treating it as "capital" earned through reading or chores. We also discuss Jon's $100 piano challenge and why local summer camps are a strategic win for every parent.

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  23. Why Your Child Isn't Just "Giving You a Hard Time" with Anjelah Johnson-Reyes

    60 Min.

    Today we’re hanging out with the legendary Anjelah Johnson-Reyes. You’ve seen her viral "Nail Salon" bit and her iconic characters from Mad TV, but in this episode, we get into the nuts and bolts of her career …

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    Today we’re hanging out with the legendary Anjelah Johnson-Reyes. You’ve seen her viral "Nail Salon" bit and her iconic characters from Mad TV, but in this episode, we get into the nuts and bolts of her career and life as a mom. Anjelah shares her fascinating process for building a comedy hour, from recording every set to "cut the fat" to the daunting anxiety of starting a project from scratch.

    We dive into her self-produced special, Ugly Baby, and how she "sleuthed" her own audio archives to find the perfect family footage. Beyond the stage, we talk about her husband Manuel’s "resplendent" hair and her daughter Rosie’s hilarious two-year-old sass. Most importantly, Anjelah offers a powerful perspective on parenting: Your child isn't "giving you a hard time," they’re going through a hard time.

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  24. From HGTV to Homeschooling: Erin Napier on Building a Life, Not a Brand

    47 Min.

    Today, we’re hanging out with our friend Erin Napier, who is busy saving Laurel, Mississippi, one 25,000-square-foot hotel at a time. We dive into the "unfortunate" (that’s code for ugly) projects and the heart …

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    Today, we’re hanging out with our friend Erin Napier, who is busy saving Laurel, Mississippi, one 25,000-square-foot hotel at a time. We dive into the "unfortunate" (that’s code for ugly) projects and the heart behind her latest restoration, The Heirloom, which survived a "devastating" fire just weeks before opening.

    Erin spills the tea on her first year as a homeschooling mom—turns out it only takes two hours a day, leaving plenty of time for her daughter to job-shadow a vet. We also discuss her strict "no-weekend-work" policy and why Ben is a nearly perfect husband, despite his chaotic habit of leaving every single cabinet door open.

    From air-conditioned mattresses to dodging a massive Great Pyrenees puppy at the breakfast table, Erin reminds us that—no matter what the world says—not everything is an emergency. Come for the design tips, stay for the wisdom on building a life, not just a brand.

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  25. Lori McKenna: Life is Hard, Go Full Force

    1 Std. 24 Min.

    Welcome to Momville! In this episode, we’re hanging out with the legendary Lori McKenna, a three-time Grammy winner who somehow balanced raising five kids with a world-class songwriting career. We dive into her …

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    Welcome to Momville! In this episode, we’re hanging out with the legendary Lori McKenna, a three-time Grammy winner who somehow balanced raising five kids with a world-class songwriting career. We dive into her "internal rhythm" of 74 BPM and the hilarious reality of her early days showing up to open mics with a minivan and actual peanut butter on her guitar.


    Lori gets real about her 30-year marriage to Gene, their legendary four-degree thermostat war, and her self-described "underwhelming" mom status. From failing at selling Tupperware to writing hits for Taylor Swift, she shares how she won the lottery without ever buying a ticket. Whether you're obsessed with an empty kitchen sink or currently orbiting your adult children, join us for some funny thoughts and deep talks.


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  26. Rupture and Repair: Embracing the Messy Reality of Parent-Child Relationships

    59 Min.

    LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS HERE! The legendary Sissy Goff and David Thomas join us this week. Things get off to a wild start when host Dave realizes that a woman who changed his life decades ago is actually David’s …

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    LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS HERE! The legendary Sissy Goff and David Thomas join us this week. Things get off to a wild start when host Dave realizes that a woman who changed his life decades ago is actually David’s sister. Once the shock wears off, the group discusses the duo’s new book about raising capable kids in a world that feels increasingly fragile.

    They explore why today’s kids are hesitant to do hard things, like getting a driver’s license, and how the pandemic created a cocoon of safety. You will hear about the importance of practicing flexibility—even if it means causing a dinner table crisis by moving one seat to the left—and why parents must manage their own anxiety while watching their children struggle. From aggressive New York bagel shops to eighth-grade boys sleeping in a gas leak pose, this episode is all about trading protection for preparation.

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  27. Beyond the Fourth Wall: The Power of the Vulnerable Parent

    1 Std. 14 Min.

    This episode features a "PowerPod" collaboration between the fellas and the creators of the 3% podcast, Jamie and Blake. The conversation explores radical honesty, specifically the "3% concept"—the practice of …

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    This episode features a "PowerPod" collaboration between the fellas and the creators of the 3% podcast, Jamie and Blake. The conversation explores radical honesty, specifically the "3% concept"—the practice of sharing the final, shame-filled layer of truth that individuals typically withhold from even their closest friends. The participants discuss the transition from childhood "proximity friendships" to the foundational intentionality required to sustain deep male connections amidst the busyness of fatherhood.


    Drawing on therapeutic insights within the sources, they examine how children often sacrifice their authenticity for attachment, a pattern contributing to the modern loneliness epidemic. A significant focus is placed on intentional parenting, highlighting the transformative power of a father’s apology. By embracing vulnerability and "killing the fourth wall" of parental perfection, fathers foster genuine connection and freedom within their families.

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  28. Ben Rector: The Great Sock Shootout

    1 Std. 21 Min.

    The fellas are back with our dear friend Ben Rector. It’s a classic dad-session—think driveway-wine-in-camping-chairs vibes. Ben drops some hilarious truth bombs, like his daughter's most accurate description …

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    The fellas are back with our dear friend Ben Rector. It’s a classic dad-session—think driveway-wine-in-camping-chairs vibes. Ben drops some hilarious truth bombs, like his daughter's most accurate description of what he's like. He also breaks down his quest to look less like an accountant with his new robust beard and a legendary sock shootout method to find the perfect pair.

    But it’s not all oatmeal-sifting rituals and badminton losses. The guys get into the "real" stuff, too. Ben talks about his career shift—choosing depth over scale so he can actually be present for his kids' math homework. It’s a funny, deep, and totally relatable look at suburban fatherhood.

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  29. Hypothetical Equestrian Punctuality with McKittrick Simmons

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    How quickly could you get a horse to downtown Boston? Well, today's guest McKittrick Simmons posed that very question to Dave and it really framed their 20+ friendship in a new way. After meeting his new …

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    How quickly could you get a horse to downtown Boston?

    Well, today's guest McKittrick Simmons posed that very question to Dave and it really framed their 20+ friendship in a new way. After meeting his new friend, Jon McLaughlin, McKittrick breaks down the "neutron bomb" of intentional friendship and why "no theologians allowed" Bible studies are the secret to growth. Whether navigating the "beta test" of parenting, escaping the "shadow world," or bearing witness to friends, this deep dive is for you.

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  30. Andy Roddick: "Federer Ruined My Life for a Decade"

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    This week the fellas join up with former world number one tennis player and US Open champion Andy Roddick to discuss his legendary career and the transition into fatherhood. Jon is very excited! Roddick …

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    This week the fellas join up with former world number one tennis player and US Open champion Andy Roddick to discuss his legendary career and the transition into fatherhood. Jon is very excited!

    Roddick reflects on holding the world’s fastest serve record, his humorous rivalry with Roger Federer, and the "light" feeling of retiring at age 30. He shares candid stories from the "School of Earth," including traveling the world alone at age twelve and why he believes parents must let their children fall sometimes to build resilience.

    Roddick offers profound wisdom for sports parents, emphasizing the need to "control the controllables" and sharing Andre Agassi's advice on simplifying the path to excellence. From hosting Saturday Night Live to being the "third best player" on his high school team, Roddick brings his signature wit to a conversation about discipline, legacy, and the "white-knuckling" reality of parenting.

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