
Jensen Huang Resigns, RSI Coming in 2027 — with Robert Wright
Shownotes
Bestselling author Robert Wright and I react to Jensen Huang’s resignation from Nvidia, METR’s report that AI is doubling Anthropic’s research speed, and whether AI safety can ever be formally verified. Plus:
Where AI’s economic value will accrue;
My AI outperforming my CPA;
What Jensen’s fall means for Anthropic’s IPO;
And an anonymous Chinese AI journalist on how it all looks from Beijing.
Enjoy another edition of the Nonzero x Doom Debates collab!
Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZZEfe2OmAE
Timestamps
00:00:00 — Cold Open
00:00:30 — Introductions
00:01:32 — Jensen Huang Resigns from Nvidia
00:05:02 — Who’s Defending Jensen?
00:10:09 — What Did Jensen Do Wrong?
00:12:23 — Was Alice Huang a Chinese Spy?
00:18:03 — Does Decapitation Work?
00:21:34 — The Great Man Theory of Tech
00:23:58 — Where Will AI’s Value Accrue?
00:27:14 — What’s Next for Jensen?
00:29:33 — METR: AI Is Doubling Anthropic’s Research Speed
00:35:01 — AI Is Solving Open Math Problems
00:37:24 — AI Agents Negotiating Deals
00:40:03 — My AI vs. My CPA
00:42:38 — Bob’s AI Caught His Doctor’s Error
00:44:20 — Whatever Happened to Hallucinations?
00:45:35 — Formal Verification and Lean
00:50:47 — Andrew Wiles and the Human Cost
00:54:10 — The All-In Podcast’s Blind Spot
00:57:15 — Can We Formally Verify Alignment?
00:59:55 — Yudkowsky vs. Irving at ILIAD
01:01:21 — Will Jensen’s Fall Help Anthropic’s IPO?
01:06:48 — The March for an AI Treaty
01:08:02 — Introducing Walter, a Chinese AI Journalist
01:09:22 — How China Reacted to Jensen’s Resignation
01:15:43 — Chinese Theories About Anthropic’s Role
01:22:47 — How China Censored the Spy Allegation
01:24:33 — Does China Trust an AI Pause?
01:26:59 — AI Layoffs and a Chili Sauce Boycott
01:32:50 — Does Beijing Listen to Public Opinion?
01:36:42 — China’s Limits on AI Companions for Kids
01:39:29 — Will China Move on Taiwan?
Links
ROBERT WRIGHT & NONZERO
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The God Test — Bob’s 2026 book on AI
“The Age of Big Math” — Bob’s Nonzero conversation with Steven Strogatz, author of Big Math
“When AI Enters the Quantum World” — Bob’s Nonzero conversation with Scott Aaronson
THE WEEK IN AI
Elon Musk: “That would be an honor” — his reply to “Elon please hire Jensen”
Daniel Kokotajlo to Anthropic: “Do you want to pace or not?” — the tweet where he drops the F-bomb
“Formalizing Fermat’s Last Theorem” — Anthropic on Claude’s 13-million-line Lean proof
Eliezer Yudkowsky & Geoffrey Irving Debate — recorded at the ILIAD conference at Lighthaven
March for an AI Treaty — Saturday, November 14, in cities across the US, Canada, France and Germany
ALSO MENTIONED
“The Proof” — the NOVA documentary on Andrew Wiles and Fermat’s Last Theorem
“AI as Normal Technology” — the essay by Arvind Narayanan and Sayash Kapoor, Bob’s upcoming guest
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