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Each week, Colleen Dulle goes behind the headlines of the biggest Vatican news stories with America’s Rome correspondent Gerard O’Connell. They'll break down complicated news stories that have a whole lot of history behind them in an understandable, engaging way. Colleen and Gerard will give you the inside scoop on what people inside the Vatican are thinking, saying—and planning.

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  1. Seven million Argentines welcome Pope Leo

    50 Min.

    In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Austen Ivereigh and Hugo Hernan Rabbia join Colleen Dulle to discuss Pope Leo’s visits to Uruguay and Argentina. In the first part of the show, Austen discusses …

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    In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Austen Ivereigh and Hugo Hernan Rabbia join Colleen Dulle to discuss Pope Leo’s visits to Uruguay and Argentina. In the first part of the show, Austen discusses Leo’s messages in the two countries; in the second, Hugo unpacks the findings from his national survey of Argentines’ religious practices and expectations for the pope’s visit.

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    Chapters:

    1:14 Mass with 2.5 million people

    2:30 Pope in Uruguay: religion & secularism

    8:30 Pope Leo's message to families

    10:43 Leo's welcome to Argentina

    14:32 The legacy of Pope Francis

    19:19 Leo meets people with disabilities

    22:08 Leo meets with workers

    26:20 The church needs reach out

    29:39 What happened in Córdoba

    32:55 Prayer is booming in Argentina

    39:12 Argentinians wanted to see Leo

    41:36 Politics and religion in Argentina


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  2. Pope Leo’s Peruvian homecoming

    35 Min.

    In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen and Gerry preview Pope Leo’s planned visit to Uruguay, Argentina and Peru, highlighting key events and speeches and discussing Pope Leo’s health ahead of …

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    In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen and Gerry preview Pope Leo’s planned visit to Uruguay, Argentina and Peru, highlighting key events and speeches and discussing Pope Leo’s health ahead of the trip.

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    Chapters:

    0:00 Pope Leo voted in the midterm elections

    1:07 Pope Leo’s health ahead of the trip

    4:40 Why Pope Leo is visiting secular Uruguay

    9:45 Pope Leo’s message to Argentina

    14:00 Leo’s outreach to the poor and workers

    17:12 Our Lady of Lujan’s significance

    19:02 Pope Francis ‘will be omnipresent’

    20:59 Pope Leo’s Peruvian homecoming

    24:45 Leo to visit the ‘margins’ of Peru

    28:25 Leo’s familiarity with social and church issues

    32:06 Outro and credits

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  3. What does unity mean for Pope Leo? Feat. Massimo Faggioli

    47 Min.

    In the midst of contentious elections around the world, Pope Leo XIV is preaching unity, both in the Catholic Church and in the world. But what does unity—or “unity in diversity,” as Leo often advocates—look …

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    In the midst of contentious elections around the world, Pope Leo XIV is preaching unity, both in the Catholic Church and in the world. But what does unity—or “unity in diversity,” as Leo often advocates—look like in practice? Church historian Massimo Faggioli joins host Colleen Dulle to talk about Pope Leo’s effort and tactics for promoting unity and peace.

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    Chapters:

    0:00 Intro

    1:40 Significance of a U.S.-born pope

    5:42 Social vs. liberal vs. democratic Catholicism

    11:55 Pope Leo XIV’s social Catholicism and its roots

    15:41 Leo’s ability to speak to the United States

    20:03 ‘Unity in diversity’ as a ‘spiritual posture’

    25:22 Liturgy as a case study in Leo’s unity

    28:09 Leo’s techniques for calm and unification

    31:15 Synodality vs. collegiality under Pope Leo

    36:33 Tensions between Catholicism and democracy

    40:04 Catholics’ changing participation in U.S. politics


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  4. Leo needs “no further treatment” for cancer

    38 Min.

    In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry and Colleen evaluate how Pope Leo XIV’s recovery from his lung surgery is progressing and discuss questions of how the operation might affect his immediate …

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    In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry and Colleen evaluate how Pope Leo XIV’s recovery from his lung surgery is progressing and discuss questions of how the operation might affect his immediate future plans. In the second part of the show, they look at Leo’s personal intervention on behalf of a besieged city in Ukraine.

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    Chapters:

    0:00 Health update and intro

    1:55 Pope Leo returns to audience in St. Peter’s Square

    5:59 Leo’s emphasis on family at general audience

    7:47 Leo’s hospitalization and resuming work

    12:07 Can Leo still go to Latin America?

    17:24 Leo’s planned trip to Assisi Oct. 27

    19:23 Will Leo slow down or accelerate his work?

    22:53 Leo’s calls with Putin and Zelensky

    28:02 Does Leo think Ukraine should cede land?

    30:56 Effect of Leo’s intervention for Oleshky

    35:17 Outro and credits

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  5. Pope Leo’s cancer diagnosis: What we know

    47 Min.

    In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen and Gerry explain what we know and what still remains unclear regarding Pope Leo XIV’s shocking lung cancer diagnosis. In the second part of the show …

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    In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen and Gerry explain what we know and what still remains unclear regarding Pope Leo XIV’s shocking lung cancer diagnosis. In the second part of the show, they recap the meeting of bishops on Amoris Laetitia and the election of Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle as the new dean of the College of Cardinals.


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  6. ‘Amoris Laetitia’ at 10: The history, tensions and legacy

    59 Min.

    In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Pope Francis biographer Austen Ivereigh and America executive producer Sebastian Gomes join Colleen Dulle to discuss this week’s Vatican meeting on “Amoris …

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    In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Pope Francis biographer Austen Ivereigh and America executive producer Sebastian Gomes join Colleen Dulle to discuss this week’s Vatican meeting on “Amoris Laetitia,” ten years after Pope Francis published his controversial exhortation on marriage and the family. Austen and Sebastian recap the tense 2014 and 2015 synods on the family, what Pope Francis decided in Amoris Laetitia and what is to be discussed at a Vatican meeting on the document to be held Oct. 7-14 for the heads of the world’s conferences of bishops. Chapters: 00:00 10 years after Amoris Laetitia 2:09 Pope Francis calls the Synod on the family 11:30 What was at stake? 14:50 Two temptations in the Synod 19:26 Overcoming tensions and polarization 21:50 Divorced and remarried Catholics 27:56 Challenges facing families 30:30 What does Amoris Laetitia say? 37:54 Access to the Sacraments? 40:39 A controversial document 42:44 Implementing Amoris Laetitia 44:22 Pope Leo wants to discuss it

    Links:

    Bishops are meeting at the Vatican next week to discuss ‘Amoris Laetitia.’ Here’s what you need to know.

    Let Us Dream: The Path to a Better Future by Pope Francis and Austen Ivereigh

    Communion for the divorced and remarried, papal critics and family life: Pope Francis’ ‘Amoris Laetitia’ at 5 years

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  7. French Catholicism Reborn? What happened on Pope Leo’s visit to France (and why it matters for all of us)

    45 Min.

    This week on Jesuitical, Colleen Dulle joins hosts Zac Davis and Sebasian Gomes to discuss Pope Leo’s recent visit to France, including his messages on assisted dying, European identity and the role of the …

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    This week on Jesuitical, Colleen Dulle joins hosts Zac Davis and Sebasian Gomes to discuss Pope Leo’s recent visit to France, including his messages on assisted dying, European identity and the role of the Catholic Church in a secular country. Colleen also reflects on her experience of traveling with the pope for the first time.


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    Chapters:

    00:00 First time on the papal plane!

    4:02 Why Pope Leo went to France

    6:45 Catholic revival?

    9:43 Secularity in France

    14:02 Pro-life issues in France

    17:57 Is Europe a "Christian" culture?

    24:55 Pope meets abuse victims

    34:08 Liturgy and division

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  8. What to expect from Pope Leo’s trip to France

    38 Min.

    In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry and Colleen preview Pope Leo XIV’s visit to France, set for Sept. 25-28. The two unpack Pope Leo’s itinerary for the trip, give context for the political …

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    In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry and Colleen preview Pope Leo XIV’s visit to France, set for Sept. 25-28. The two unpack Pope Leo’s itinerary for the trip, give context for the political situation in the country and discuss what messages the pope may send to both secular and ecclesial authorities in a country and church that are being reshaped by the arrival of newcomers.


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    Chapters:

    00:00 News: Pope Leo to visit Latin America
    2:12 Background on Pope Leo's trip to France
    11:07 The EU, war, and multilateralism
    15:19 The pope's diplomatic balancing act
    18:20 A religious spring in France?
    24:00 Scandals, wounds and reconciliation
    29:20 Who the pope is meeting


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  9. ‘Baby Bishops School’: How the Vatican trains new bishops

    38 Min.

    In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry and Colleen discuss the “birthday gifts” Pope Leo XIV gave to the Vatican on his 71st birthday: an expansion of the Vatican Library and archives and the …

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    In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry and Colleen discuss the “birthday gifts” Pope Leo XIV gave to the Vatican on his 71st birthday: an expansion of the Vatican Library and archives and the repeal of Covid-era salary cuts. The hosts explain Vatican salaries and what has changed financially for the Holy See since the pandemic.

    In the second part of the show, Colleen and Gerry give a primer on “Baby Bishops’ School,” the annual training for newly-ordained bishops that recently concluded in Rome.


    Chapters:

    0:00 Intro

    0:42 Pope Leo repeals Covid-era salary cuts

    4:52 How Vatican employees are compensated

    7:52 The Vatican’s financial recovery since 2024

    10:39 Vatican finances under Pope Leo

    15:06 Vatican Library and archive expansion

    18:33 Baby Bishops’ School explained

    21:03 Bishops get international perspective

    24:49 Pope Leo’s address to new bishops

    29:43 The Pope Leo ‘style’ of being bishop

    33:40 What could change for bishops under Leo

    35:30 Outro and credits


    Links:
    Pope Leo celebrates his 71st birthday—by giving gifts to the Vatican

    Is Pope Leo ‘Americanizing’ Vatican fundraising?

    What Pope Leo has said about an ‘A.I. pause’

    Pope Leo calls for ‘culture of negotiation’ at meeting of North and South American leaders

    Synodality, multiculturalism and working with Pope Leo: Archbishop Costelloe on the Australian Catholic Church

    Pope Leo warns technology cannot replace the value of human relationships

    Cardinal Czerny awarded inaugural Pope Leo XIV Sustainability Medal

    Pope Leo commemorates 9/11, praying for all who ‘bear wounds of that tragic day’


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  10. What’s on Pope Leo’s desk this fall

    48 Min.

    In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry and Colleen take the opportunity of Pope Leo’s 71st birthday on Monday, Sept. 14, to look back at what he has accomplished thus far in his papacy and what …

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    In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry and Colleen take the opportunity of Pope Leo’s 71st birthday on Monday, Sept. 14, to look back at what he has accomplished thus far in his papacy and what major items remain on his desk for the fall, including trips to France and Latin America, a series of high-profile appointments and the ongoing trials of Marko Rupnik and Angelo Becciu.

    The hosts also announce the launch of the newest America newsletter, Vatican Notebook! Subscribe here.

    Chapters:

    0:00 Intro

    3:21 Pope Leo celebrates his 71st birthday

    5:50 A review of Pope Leo's first year

    10:01 Pope Leo's effect on geopolitics

    13:53 Pope Leo assembles a diverse new team

    21:50 Leo's focus on peace, poverty and A.I.

    28:10 Pope Leo is in no rush

    29:10 The pope's preferences for bishops

    35:11 Plans for filling bishop vacancies

    37:03 Marko Rupnik trial updates

    40:53 A new attitude on Vatican finances

    44:30 Outro


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  11. Pope Leo's message for the United States' 250th anniversary

    2 Min.

    Pope Leo today received the National Constitution Center’s liberty medal and gave an acceptance speech via livestream from the Vatican. Colleen Dulle recaps his message. Links from the show: Read: Pope Leo’s …

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    Pope Leo today received the National Constitution Center’s liberty medal and gave an acceptance speech via livestream from the Vatican. Colleen Dulle recaps his message.

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    Read: Pope Leo’s message to the United States on its 250th anniversary

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  12. Vatican excommunicates SSPX bishops, priests and others

    2 Min.

    Today, July 2, in response to the SSPX’s illicit ordinations of bishops, the Vatican announced that not only were the bishops involved in the ordination automatically excommunicated and in schism, but that any …

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    Today, July 2, in response to the SSPX’s illicit ordinations of bishops, the Vatican announced that not only were the bishops involved in the ordination automatically excommunicated and in schism, but that any clergy of SSPX or lay members who “adhere” to the schism are also to be considered excommunicated.

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  13. ‘I doubt he will be diplomatic’: What Leo may say to the U.S. July 3

    43 Min.

    On this season finale of “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen and Gerry discuss the hectic weeks before Pope Leo’s summer vacation. First they recap the pope’s trip to Pavia to visit the remains of St. Augustine and …

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    On this season finale of “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen and Gerry discuss the hectic weeks before Pope Leo’s summer vacation. First they recap the pope’s trip to Pavia to visit the remains of St. Augustine and the home of St. Frances Xavier Cabrini, his speech to the World Food Program and the Vatican’s denial of the German bishops’ request to allow lay people to preach homilies. They also look ahead to this week’s consistory of cardinals, the illicit ordinations planned by SSPX, the pope’s address to Americans on July 3 and his trip to Lampedusa July 4, along with how Leo plans to spend his summer vacation. In this episode, Gerry also breaks the news of how many days Pope Leo will spend in Argentina, Peru and Uruguay this fall. 0:00 Intro 1:17 Pope Leo’s visit to Pavia and Cabrini’s hometown 4:52 Breaking News - Pope Leo’s agenda for Latin America 5:44 Pope Leo’s visit to the World Food Program 10:50 Vatican says no to lay homilies during Mass 11:35 Meeting of continental synod leaders at Vatican 16:38 Consistory of cardinals on war, AI and the synod 23:49 Cardinals could discuss SSPX at consistory 28:44 Pope Leo’s address to Americans July 3 34:06 Pope Leo’s July 4 visit to Lampedusa 34:53 What we know about Pope Leo’s summer plans 39:22 Please fill out our listener survey!


    Links:

    Pope Leo XIV exalts first American saint Cabrini as a model for Christians for her care of migrants

    Pope Leo: War is ‘fed more easily’ than the hungry

    Vatican to German bishops: No lay people preaching homilies at Mass

    SSPX stands firm against Vatican II in open letter to Pope Leo

    Extraordinary consistory signals Pope Leo’s push to work with cardinals on global challenges

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  14. ‘Like I’ve rarely seen him’: Pope Leo’s visit to Spain

    46 Min.

    Pope Leo visited Spain from June 6-12, a visit that drew record-breaking crowds. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell recaps for Colleen Dulle the highlights from the pope’s three stops: Madrid …

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    Pope Leo visited Spain from June 6-12, a visit that drew record-breaking crowds. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell recaps for Colleen Dulle the highlights from the pope’s three stops: Madrid, Barcelona and the Canary Islands. On the last day, Gerry reports, Leo spoke out against those who take advantage of migrants “like I’ve rarely seen him,” shouting, “Stop! Repent!”

    After this episode was recorded, Pope Leo spoke to journalists outside Castel Gandolfo, saying “Thank God” for the U.S.-Iran memorandum of understanding and commenting on the upcoming illicit ordinations of bishops for the Society of St. Pius X. Regarding the latter, he said, ““If they make that choice, I am sorry, but we must move forward.”

















    Interview: Madrid’s Cardinal Cobo says Pope Leo’s visit to Spain ‘is bringing out the best in people’

    In Spain, Pope Leo denounces polarization and hails commitment to multilateralism

    More than one million attend Pope Leo’s Mass and procession in the heart of Madrid

    Pope Leo defends the unborn and migrants in historic speech to Spanish parliament

    Pope Leo meets with 6 clergy abuse survivors in Spain

    Pope Leo blesses 21 ambulances that an Argentine nun is taking to Ukraine

    Pope Leo tackles depression, domestic violence and the ‘cult of self-image’ in dialogue with young people

    Pope Leo visits famed Spanish monastery, entrusting his ministry to the Virgin of Montserrat

    Pope Leo XIV honors Antoni Gaudí and blesses the Sagrada Familia’s final tower

    ‘Human dignity has no passport’: Pope Leo visits Gran Canaria

    Pope Leo ends visit to Spain with a call to repent

    Pope Leo speaks out on SSPX ordinations and U.S.-Iran deal


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  15. Anna Rowlands on the ‘Magnifica Humanitas’ debates

    41 Min.

    Pope Leo’s encyclical ‘Magnifica Humanitas,’ published May 25, has sparked debates in the worlds of technology and theology while galvanizing online creators opposed to artificial intelligence. Anna Rowlands, a …

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    Pope Leo’s encyclical ‘Magnifica Humanitas,’ published May 25, has sparked debates in the worlds of technology and theology while galvanizing online creators opposed to artificial intelligence. Anna Rowlands, a theologian and co-presenter of the text with Pope Leo, joins Colleen Dulle to parse the encyclical’s reception, its contributions to Catholic teaching, and whether workers can use the encyclical to justify religious exemptions to using A.I.


    Links:

    Pope Leo’s trip to Spain: Background on Sagrada Familia, migrant advocacy and a changing Catholic landscape

    More than one million attend Pope Leo’s Mass and procession in the heart of Madrid

    Pope Leo meets with 6 clergy abuse survivors in Spain

    Pope Leo meets Bad Bunny in Madrid

    A.I. is the headline for ‘Magnifica Humanitas,’ but Catholic social teaching is its spine

    Why ‘Magnifica Humanitas’ is Pope Leo’s most important action on synodality yet


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  16. EWTN president named head of Vatican communications

    34 Min.

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen Dulle and Gerard O’Connell discuss EWTN News President and COO Montserrat “Montse” Alvarado as prefect of the Vatican’s dicastery for communications. They unpack some …

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    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen Dulle and Gerard O’Connell discuss EWTN News President and COO Montserrat “Montse” Alvarado as prefect of the Vatican’s dicastery for communications. They unpack some of the challenges currently facing the dicastery and analyze the appointment in light of the Vatican’s previously strained relationship with EWTN. In the second half of the show, Gerry gives a preview of Pope Leo’s trip to Spain next week.


    0:00 Intro

    0:48 The dicastery for communications’ challenges

    3:32 Montse Alvarado’s appointment and experience

    6:38 First lay woman to head a Vatican dicastery

    11:08 Significance of an American as head of communications

    13:49 Alvarado steered EWTN away from conflict with Francis

    17:19 Pope Leo’s vision for communications

    21:38 Pope Leo to address Spanish parliament in Madrid

    24:29 Pope Leo’s visit to the Sagrada Familia in Barcelona

    26:20 Pope Leo to highlight migration in Canary Islands

    28:04 Other possible events for pope’s Spain trip

    31:34 Outro and credits


    Links:

    Pope Leo appoints president of EWTN News as head of Vatican communications

    Pope Francis responds to attacks from EWTN, other church critics: ‘They are the work of the devil.’

    Explainer: The story behind Pope Francis’ beef with EWTN

    Pope Leo’s trip to Spain: Background on Sagrada Familia, migrant advocacy and a changing Catholic landscape

    Bad Bunny wants to meet Pope Leo XIV. In Madrid, a crossover event is in the works.


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  17. Pope Leo's A.I. encyclical: Top takeaways from “Magnifica Humanitas”

    41 Min.

    This week on a special “Inside the Vatican” roundtable, a discussion of “Magnifica Humanitas,” Pope Leo’s groundbreaking first encyclical on protecting the human person in the age of artificial intelligence …

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    This week on a special “Inside the Vatican” roundtable, a discussion of “Magnifica Humanitas,” Pope Leo’s groundbreaking first encyclical on protecting the human person in the age of artificial intelligence. Host Colleen Dulle sits down with her co-host and senior Vatican correspondent, Gerard O’Connell, as well as America’s president and editor in chief, Sam Sawyer, S.J.

    They discuss the document’s key takeaways, how it is being received in Silicon Valley, Pope Leo’s challenge for every Catholic in the A.I. age and much more.

    Links:

    Read “Magnifica Humanitas”

    Pope Leo’s first encyclical tackles A.I., power and human dignity

    Pope Leo XIV makes historic apology for the Catholic Church’s role in legitimizing slavery

    Why Pope Leo’s new encyclical quotes Gandalf: Literary images of hope and faith in ‘Magnifica Humanitas’

    A capitalist (priest) reads ‘Magnifica Humanitas’

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  18. Pope Leo's Encyclical: "Artificial intelligence needs to be disarmed."

    5 Min.

    Pope Leo released his encyclical, Magnifica Humanitas, on “safeguarding the human person in the time of artificial intelligence” today, May 25. (Read the encyclical here. And find America Magazine's extensive …

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    Pope Leo released his encyclical, Magnifica Humanitas, on “safeguarding the human person in the time of artificial intelligence” today, May 25.

    (Read the encyclical here. And find America Magazine's extensive coverage of the encyclical here.)

    Pope Leo presented the encyclical at the Vatican along with the panel of experts, including Christopher Olah, a co-founder of one of the world’s leading AI developers, Anthropic.

    In a speech at the presentation, Leo stressed that the encyclical had been born out of a process of listening–to scientists and engineers developing AI; political leaders, parents, and teachers; and people concerned about autonomous weapons systems and various forms of exclusion happening on the basis of mass data gathering.

    Leo recaps the evolution of Catholic Social Teaching through its major documents and by explaining its key principles, in many places anticipating and rebutting criticisms that the church should either stay out of politics or completely rule it.

    He then moves on to the explicit examination of AI, its development and its effects on humanity in the spheres of education, labor, technology addiction, democracy and many other areas, giving concrete recommendations on how AI development could be better supervised by various configurations of local and international civil, religious and educational authorities. He denounces repeatedly the ways in which A.I. will exacerbate global inequalities, and how it is already concentrating power and decision-making in the hands of a minority of powerful individuals.

    Leo stresses that, for all of us, the ethics of AI cannot be simplified into “good use of A.I. is good, evil use of A.I. is evil”—AI is not, he says, a morally neutral tool, but “embodies choices and priorities through what it measures, ignores and optimizes, and how it classifies people and situations.” In other words, the moral discernment of AI cannot merely look at the uses to which it is put, but also how it is designed and what vision of the human person and society” is embedded into it .

    As expected, Leo turns to the use of A.I. in war. In a particularly interesting paragraph, he dismisses just war theory as “outdated,” saying it has “all too often been used to justify any kind of war” and that “Humanity possesses far more effective and capable tools for promoting human life and resolving conflicts, such as dialogue, diplomacy and forgiveness.”

    The document ends with a long meditation on peace, in which Leo outlines “five paths toward daily and public responsibility.”

    Magnifica Humanitas includes challenges and fruitful insights for everyone no matter their position in society, and we highly recommend giving it a read. You can find our full coverage, with many forthcoming analysis pieces, at AmericaMagazine.org, and tune in for an episode later this week in which we’ll dig deeper into this major encyclical.

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  19. What we know about Pope Leo’s A.I. encyclical

    38 Min.

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen Dulle and Gerard O’Connell look ahead to Pope Leo’s forthcoming encyclical, “Magnifica Humanitas,” which is rumored to be a long document dealing with themes of …

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    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen Dulle and Gerard O’Connell look ahead to Pope Leo’s forthcoming encyclical, “Magnifica Humanitas,” which is rumored to be a long document dealing with themes of artificial intelligence and humanity. Ahead of the document’s expected release on May 25, Gerry and Colleen recap what is already known about the document, the Vatican’s previous work on A.I. and how encyclicals are written.


    Links:

    Pope Leo will publish first encyclical, ‘Magnifica Humanitas,’ on preserving humanity in the A.I. age on May 25

    Bishop Flores: Pope Leo’s AI encyclical is coming. Don’t let ChatGPT read it for you.

    Explainer: Papal documents and their (different) levels of authority

    Interview: Bishop Paul Tighe on the Vatican’s response to AI

    What does the Vatican know about A.I.? A lot, actually.

    Pope Leo’s encyclical comes just in time: AI is raising questions only religion can answer.


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  20. Marco Rubio’s Vatican visit, explained | Inside the Vatican podcast

    36 Min.

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell and Colleen Dulle discuss U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio’s visit to Pope Leo XIV, along with recent developments between the Vatican and the Society of …

    Shownotes

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell and Colleen Dulle discuss U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio’s visit to Pope Leo XIV, along with recent developments between the Vatican and the Society of St. Pius X, which has committed to illicitly ordain bishops without the Vatican’s approval. In the second part of the show, Colleen and Gerry look at the pope’s visits to Pompeii and Naples, and Gerry explains why he thinks Pope Leo’s forthcoming encyclical won’t be published as expected on May 15.

    Links from the show:

    Vatican warns SSPX leaders of excommunication over ‘schismatic act’ of ordaining bishops

    Pope Leo meets with Marco Rubio amid Trump’s personal attacks

    Poll: Most Americans disapprove of Trump’s attacks on Pope Leo

    Pope Leo prays for end to ‘fratricidal hatred’ as he celebrates anniversary in Pompeii


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  21. Deep Dive: An American Pope–How it happened and what it means

    45 Min.

    One year ago today, Leo XIV was elected the first pope from the United States of America. A year into his papacy, we examine how the U.S. evolved from a nation with a long history of anti-Catholicism to one …

    Shownotes

    One year ago today, Leo XIV was elected the first pope from the United States of America. A year into his papacy, we examine how the U.S. evolved from a nation with a long history of anti-Catholicism to one welcoming an American-born pope, and why the cardinals defied a longstanding taboo against a pope from a global superpower.

    Interviews include:

    - Kathleen Sprows Cummings, the John A. O’Brien Collegiate Professor of American Studies and History at the University of Notre Dame

    - Christopher Lamb, CNN Vatican Correspondent and author of The Outsider: Pope Francis and the Battle to Reform the Church and American Hope: What Pope Leo XIV Means for the Church and the World

    - J.D. Long García, senior editor at America

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  22. ‘Speaking fearlessly’: Pope Leo’s Africa Trip

    51 Min.

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry O’Connell gives Colleen Dulle an inside look at Pope Leo XIV’s visit to four African countries. Between speaking out against corruption in Cameroon, denouncing …

    Shownotes

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry O’Connell gives Colleen Dulle an inside look at Pope Leo XIV’s visit to four African countries. Between speaking out against corruption in Cameroon, denouncing inequality in Angola and visiting a prison in Equatorial Guinea, Gerry notes that Pope Leo never strayed from his central message of peace and justice—even when a Truth Social post from U.S. President Donald Trump threatened to overshadow it.


    0:00 Intro

    1:02 Why did Pope Leo go to Africa?

    5:20 Pope Leo visits the basilica of Augustine

    10:00 Pope Leo’s messages to Algeria

    14:57 Pope denounces corruption in Cameroon

    22:40 Leo visits conflict zone in Cameroon

    27:10 Leo urges church to speak out in Angola

    31:07 Angola’s unequal economy

    34:44 Equatorial Guinea gives Leo ‘colorful welcome’

    36:49 Pope Leo’s memorable prison visit

    41:47 Pope Leo in-air press conference

    47:41 Outro and credits


    Links:

    Pope Leo walks in the footsteps of St. Augustine in Hippo

    Pope Leo to Cameroon’s leaders: Break the ‘chains of corruption,’ invest in young people

    Pope Leo denounces those who use the name God for military gain

    Interview: Jesuit provincial on what Pope Leo’s visit meant for Cameroon

    Pope Leo: I am ‘not trying to debate the president’

    Pope Leo tells Angola’s Catholic leaders: ‘Never cease to denounce injustices.’

    Pope Leo calls on leaders to ‘bridge the gap’ between poor and rich in Equatorial Guinea

    Asked about regime change in Iran, Pope Leo says, ‘I cannot be in favor of war.’

    Pope Leo speaks on same-sex blessings, migration and more on plane back to Rome

    Pope Leo prays with Archbishop of Canterbury Sarah Mullally in historic encounter, vows dialogue


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  23. Vatican Diplomacy 101

    35 Min.

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Archbishop Joseph Marino, former president of the Pontifical Ecclesiastical Academy which trains Vatican diplomats, joins Colleen Dulle to give a crash course on Vatican …

    Shownotes

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Archbishop Joseph Marino, former president of the Pontifical Ecclesiastical Academy which trains Vatican diplomats, joins Colleen Dulle to give a crash course on Vatican Diplomacy: Who are nuncios? What do they do? And what difference do they really make?

    Before the interview, Colleen also gives some updates on the week’s Vatican news.


    00:00 Pope Leo wraps his trip to Africa

    2:57 Meet Archbishop Joseph Marino

    6:38 Nuncios, the Vatican's ambassadors

    14:00 Do Nuncios have to be bishops?

    18:25 Political diplomacy and Vatican interests

    24:40 Vatican diplomacy before the Iraq war

    27:08 The Vatican's diplomatic toolkit

    30:15 Pope Leo's diplomatic approach


    Links:

    Pope Leo: I am ‘not trying to debate the president’

    Pope Leo in Angola: ‘Put the common good before partisan interests’

    Pope Leo to Angolans: ‘Build a country where old divisions are overcome forever’

    Pope Leo tells Angola’s Catholic leaders: ‘Never cease to denounce injustices.’

    Pope Leo remembers ‘the great gift’ of Pope Francis on the first anniversary of his death

    Pope Francis remembered by those who knew him

    Pope Leo’s delicate task in Equatorial Guinea: Bless the faithful, not the regime

    Pope Leo calls on leaders to ‘bridge the gap’ between poor and rich in Equatorial Guinea

    Pope Leo tells inmates ‘you are not alone’ during Equatorial Guinea prison visit at end of Africa tour

    Pope Leo’s powerful lesson in vulnerable leadership

    Pope Leo at year one: The progress of an American pope


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  24. ‘Don’t Take the Bait’: A Roundtable on Trump’s Pope Comments

    23 Min.

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” America Editor-in-Chief Fr. Sam Sawyer, SJ, joins Vatican Correspondent Colleen Dulle and Executive Editor Ashley McKinless for a roundtable discussion on the recent comments …

    Shownotes

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” America Editor-in-Chief Fr. Sam Sawyer, SJ, joins Vatican Correspondent Colleen Dulle and Executive Editor Ashley McKinless for a roundtable discussion on the recent comments President Trump and other administration officials have made about Pope Leo, and the pope’s response given en route to his tour of four African countries.

    In the first part of the show, Colleen gives an update on the papal journey across Africa.

    0:00 Intro

    0:25 Pope Leo in Algeria

    1:26 Pope Leo in Cameroon

    3:00 President Trump's words for Pope Leo

    4:20 Pope Leo's criticism of war

    5:40 Pope Leo's response to Trump

    7:50 U.S. Bishops respond to Trump

    8:47 Reactions to Trump's tirade

    10:30 Did Trump influence Leo's election?

    13:25 Don't take the President's bait

    17:05 Impact on U.S.-Vatican relation

    Links:

  25. Interview: What Pope Leo’s visit means for Algeria’s tiny Catholic population

  26. Pope Leo’s first trip to Africa: what you need to know

  27. Pope Leo in Algeria: ‘The future belongs to men and women of peace’

  28. Pope Leo walks in the footsteps of St. Augustine in Hippo

  29. Pope Leo on plane to Cameroon: St. Augustine invites us to search for God and truth

  30. Pope Leo to Cameroon’s leaders: Break the ‘chains of corruption,’ invest in young people

  31. Trump is trying to distract us from Pope Leo’s calls for peace. Don’t take the bait.

  32. South Africa’s Cardinal Brislin: Trump cannot silence Pope Leo or the church

  33. US bishops’ doctrine chair defends church’s just war tradition after JD Vance comments


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  35. Pope Leo: Trump’s Iran threat “unacceptable”

    39 Min.

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen and Gerry recap a packed two weeks of Vatican news, covering Pope Leo’s first Holy Week celebrations and his comments on President Trump’s threat to wipe out ‘an …

    Shownotes

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen and Gerry recap a packed two weeks of Vatican news, covering Pope Leo’s first Holy Week celebrations and his comments on President Trump’s threat to wipe out ‘an entire civilization.’

    After this episode was recorded, reports were published recounting a contentious meeting at the Pentagon between the nuncio to the United States, Cardinal Christophe Pierre, and Trump administration officials. Read more here: https://www.americamagazine.org/news/2026/04/09/vatican-pentagon-free-press/


    Chapters:

    0:00 Intro

    1:01 Pope Leo’s message to the wealthy in Monaco

    3:14 Pope says God ‘rejects’ the prayers of warmakers

    7:53 Pope Leo washes 12 priests’ feet on Holy Thursday

    12:01 Pope carries the cross through Colosseum

    15:07 Cardinal Pizzaballa denied access to Holy Sepulchre

    20:13 Pope Leo’s Good Friday call with Zelenskyy

    22:30 Pope Leo’s Easter appeal for peace

    25:11 Leo calls Trump’s Iran threat ‘unacceptable’

    30:17 Pope Leo’s trip to Algeria

    33:41 Leo to visit Cameroon, Angola and Equatorial Guinea

    37:01 Outro and Credits


    Links:

    Is there a Catholic revival? Pope Leo seems to think so.

    Palm Sunday: Cardinal Pizzaballa blocked by Israeli police from Holy Sepulchre as Pope Leo denounces war in Rome

    Pope Leo’s Holy Thursday homily: ‘In this dark hour of history,’ do not shy away from your mission

    The meditations at Pope Leo’s first Way of the Cross at Rome’s Colosseum: Connecting Christ’s Passion to modern suffering

    On Good Friday, Pope Leo speaks with presidents of Israel and Ukraine, calling for an end to war

    Pope Leo’s first Easter ‘Urbi et Orbi’ message: ‘Let those who have weapons lay them down’

    Pope Leo: Trump’s threat to destroy Iran ‘truly unacceptable’

    Pope Leo XIV to embark on 10-day Africa tour and trips to Spain and Monaco

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  36. Catholic women react to the Vatican’s report on women’s leadership

    41 Min.

    In March 2026, the Vatican’s doctrine office released its final report on women’s participation in the life and leadership of the Catholic Church. The report brings to a close the two-year work of Study Group …

    Shownotes

    In March 2026, the Vatican’s doctrine office released its final report on women’s participation in the life and leadership of the Catholic Church. The report brings to a close the two-year work of Study Group 5, which, as part of the Synod on Synodality, was tasked with studying women’s ministries and leadership. In this special roundtable conversation, editors at America magazine discuss the report’s content and proposals, and ask if the document changes the status quo for women in the Catholic Church.

    Featuring:

    Ashley McKinless, executive editor and co-host of the “Jesuitical” podcast

    Kerry Weber, executive editor

    Colleen Dulle, Vatican correspondent and co-host of the “Inside the Vatican” podcast

    Molly Cahill, associate editor


    0:00 The Vatican’s final report on women and ministry

    4:23 Women’s reactions to the report

    11:28 New ministries for women?

    20:05 The horizons and limits of women’s authority

    30:30 Will women be involved in decision-making?

    Links:

    ⁠The final synod report on women: what it says, what it means and what’s next⁠

    ⁠Where the women deacons question stands at the Vatican⁠

    ⁠Full Report of Study Group 5 on “The Participation of Women in the Life and Leadership of the Church⁠”

    Please consider supporting Jesuitical by becoming a digital subscriber to America magazine at ⁠americamagazine.org/subscribe⁠

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  37. The inside story of Pope Leo XIV’s election

    41 Min.

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen Dulle is joined by guest host Ashley McKinless for an interview with Gerard O’Connell and his wife and journalist Elisabetta Piqué about their new book, “The Election …

    Shownotes

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen Dulle is joined by guest host Ashley McKinless for an interview with Gerard O’Connell and his wife and journalist Elisabetta Piqué about their new book, “The Election of Pope Leo XIV: The Last Surprise of Pope Francis.” They discuss pre-conclave maneuvering, including organized resistance to Pope Francis's reforms, as well as their decision to report conclave details despite Cardinals taking oaths of secrecy.

    - 0:00 Breaking the secrecy of a conclave

    - 8:10 A Vatican journalist and a war correspondent

    - 12:04 Calculating the conclave vote tallies

    - 15:09 Pressure campaigns and conclave maneuvering

    - 22:17 How the cardinals choose a pope

    - 30:10 What the cardinals think of Pope Leo so far

    - 35:50 A touching personal story

    Links:

    The Election of Pope Leo XIV: The Last Surprise of Pope Francis by Gerard O'Connell and Elisabetta Pique

    Excerpt: Behind the scenes of Pope Leo XIV’s election

    Backer of Cardinal Parolin attacks Pope Francis’ push for lay involvement in church governance

    Los puntos débiles de Parolin, el favorito a ser el próximo papa, y el secreto a voces de su relación con Francisco

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  38. Pope Leo is using every way possible to advocate peace

    36 Min.

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell and Colleen Dulle discuss Pope Leo’s consistent statements pushing for peace and an end to armed conflicts worldwide. In the second part of the show, Colleen …

    Shownotes

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell and Colleen Dulle discuss Pope Leo’s consistent statements pushing for peace and an end to armed conflicts worldwide. In the second part of the show, Colleen and Gerry unpack a few brief stories including Pope Leo receiving the Liberty Medal from the National Constitution Center, his new home in the apostolic palace and the Vatican’s appeals court’s decision for a partial re-trial in the “Trial of the Century.”


    0:00 Intro

    1:50 Did Pope Leo tell American leaders to go to confession?

    5:43 Pope Leo calls for ceasefire

    8:18 Wars are becoming video games

    10:53 Leo’s phone call with Palestinian president

    14:44 Pope Leo’s laser focus on peace and unity

    17:30 Vatican’s soft power in conflicts

    19:26 Pope Leo turns down invite to the US

    23:13 Pope Leo moves to the Apolostic Palace

    27:30 Update on the Vatican’s “Trial of the Century”

    32:34 Pope Leo meets with Gareth Gore

    33:26 Outro


    Links:

    What the Middle East needs: Not more bombs, but ‘hard, focused diplomacy’

    Pope Leo to journalists: Don’t become agents of propaganda during wartime

    Pope Leo to warring nations in the Middle East: ‘Cease fire!’

    Pope Leo to accept Liberty Medal and address Americans on July 3rd


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  39. Is Iran a ‘just war’? U.S. Cardinals weigh in

    40 Min.

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell and Colleen Dulle discuss comments from Pope Leo XIV and three cardinals on the Iran War, including one cardinal’s analysis of whether the conflict meets the …

    Shownotes

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell and Colleen Dulle discuss comments from Pope Leo XIV and three cardinals on the Iran War, including one cardinal’s analysis of whether the conflict meets the requirements of a “just war.” In the second part of the show, Colleen and Gerry give an overview of the three synod study group final reports that have been released so far: on digital mission, seminaries and women’s roles in the church.


    0:00 Intro

    1:04 Pope Leo’s comments on Iran

    7:30 Cardinal Cupich warns against ‘gamifying’ war

    12:25 Cardinal David on war technology

    14:10 Cardinal McElroy on Just War Theory

    21:27 New papal nuncio to the U.S.

    24:33 Synod study group report on digital mission

    28:31 Final report on seminary formation

    31:46 Final report on women’s ministries

    36:36 Why did Cardinal Sako resign?


    Links:

    Register for Gerry’s book launch

    Pope Leo calls for a stop to ‘the thunderous sound of bombs’ in the Middle East

    Pope Leo praises heroic action of priest killed by Israeli tank fire in Lebanon

    Iran’s Cardinal Mathieu evacuated to Rome

    Cardinals McElroy and Cupich denounce Iran war: ‘War now has become a spectator sport.’

    Pope Leo appoints Archbishop Caccia as nuncio to the United States

    First synod final reports published: on digital culture and seminary formation

    The changing face of seminary formation: Group therapy, digital detoxing and more listening


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  40. Why Pope Leo was ‘economic with words’ on Iran war

    37 Min.

    On Saturday morning, Feb. 28, the U.S. and Israel launched strikes on Iran, killing its leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei along with other senior regime figures. The following day, Pope Leo appealed for peace …

    Shownotes

    On Saturday morning, Feb. 28, the U.S. and Israel launched strikes on Iran, killing its leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei along with other senior regime figures. The following day, Pope Leo appealed for peace, urging world leaders to stop “the spiral of violence before it becomes an unbridgeable chasm.” This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Veteran Vatican Correspondent Gerard O’Connell explains why he saw Leo’s comments as relatively restrained compared to John Paul II’s at the beginning of the Iraq War.

    In the second part of the show, Gerry shares a story from his forthcoming book on the 2025 conclave.


    0:00 Intro

    2:20 Vatican response to Iran war

    7:05 John Paul II on the 2003 Iraq War

    9:07 Pope Leo decries 'zeal for war'

    10:48 Archbishop Coakley speaks out on war

    11:30 On the Christian communities of Tehran

    12:50 Pope Leo talks on Hong Kong activist Jimmy Lai

    14:18 Cardinal Parolin's statements on the war

    19:00 What difference the Vatican make

    22:14 Stories from Gerry's new book on the conclave

    25:40 Cardinal forgets to give away his phone

    27:25 Cardinals unused to having no phones

    29:00 Behind the scenes of the conclave

    32:05 Is the conclave not 'top secret'?

    33:26 Outro


    Links:

    Pope Leo urges a halt to ‘spiral of violence’ across Iran and Middle East

    Cardinal Parolin on Iran war: ‘The force of law has been replaced by the law of force’

    Address of Pope Leo XIV to Members of the Diplomatic Corps Accredited to the Holy See, Jan. 9, 2026

    Against Unjust and Unjustified War with Iran

    I regret supporting the Iraq War. We shouldn’t repeat our mistakes in Iran now.

    Book Excerpt: Behind the scenes of Pope Leo XIV’s election

    The Election of Pope Leo XIV: The Last Surprise of Pope Francis


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