Things We Thought Were Normal

This week on It Is What It Is, Katie and Aisling start with their usual catch up before diving into two documentaries that sparked much bigger conversations than expected.

Being Gordon Ramsay leads to an honest chat about ambition, guilt and the time we sometimes miss while chasing success.

Then they unpack the America’s Next Top Model documentary and the shows they grew up watching as teenagers. From resurfaced Nickelodeon clips starring Ariana Grande to moments that now feel wildly inappropriate in 2026, they question what was normalised back then and why we never noticed.

They also touch on the internet, the recent Epstein files and how awareness around power and exploitation has shifted.

It is thoughtful, nostalgic and full of laughs along the way, including a few unexpected singing moments from Katie.

Plus, they share a family safety app they believe every parent should know about.