Journeys With PDA Coffee Chat Podcast

In this episode of the Journeys with PDA Coffee Chat podcast, hosts Heather and Kerissa welcome special guest Laura Kerbey.

Laura Kerbey has worked with autistic children and young people for more than 20 years across mainstream, further education, and specialist settings. With a background in psychology and special education, Laura has extensive experience supporting autistic and ADHD learners and young people with demand avoidance. She is an experienced trainer, author, and advocate passionate about improving education for autistic young people by helping the adults around them build greater understanding, skills, and confidence. Laura believes autistic young people have so much to offer and is committed to creating educational environments where they can be understood, supported, and thrive.

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpdanstagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

🍎 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/journeys-with-pda-coffee-chat-podcast/id1681327230

📲 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5TelhjJN6J3Dt8PPfKEm6k?si=a85f893540a142c0

💻YouTube Video Podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaSyUriZW2txMrh8vGLdljVFTf_VgK03d

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In this episode of the Journeys with PDA Coffee Chat podcast, hosts Heather and guest co-host Dusty welcome special guest Dr. Joy Eberhardt DeMaster.

Dr. Joy Eberhardt DeMaster joins the conversation to break down the relationship between PDA, PANS, and PANDAS through a parent-led, integrative, and neurodiversity-affirming lens. Key topics covered:

• What PDA means and why the term “persistent drive for autonomy” resonates with many families
• How PANS/PANDAS can show up as a sudden, dramatic change in a child
• Why sleep, eating, toileting, sensory overwhelm, handwriting, and separation anxiety can all be red flags
• How to distinguish baseline PDA traits from an abrupt medical change
• What parents can bring to appointments to help clinicians take concerns seriously
• Testing considerations, including throat, nose, and other swabs
• The importance of looking for infection, inflammation, and symptom support together
• How to tell autistic burnout apart from PANS/PANDAS in broad terms
• Why continued symptoms after treatment may mean more evaluation is needed

To download the QR code resource page mentioned go to: https://orchid-pediatrics.kit.com/573c5cfba3

Learn more about Dr. Joy at https://orchidpediatrics.com/

Follow in Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.pda.doc/

Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Orchid-Pediatrics/100080652554270/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpdanstagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

🍎 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/journeys-with-pda-coffee-chat-podcast/id1681327230

📲 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5TelhjJN6J3Dt8PPfKEm6k?si=a85f893540a142c0

💻YouTube Video Podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaSyUriZW2txMrh8vGLdljVFTf_VgK03d

Support the show

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In this episode of the Journeys with PDA Coffee Chat podcast, hosts Heather and Kerissa welcome special guest Sarah Mireles.

Sarah Mireles, LPCC, CLC, is a neurodivergent therapist and founder of Sarah Mireles Therapy with more than 10 years of experience supporting neurodivergent teens, young adults, and their families across hospital, residential, and outpatient settings. After seeing families cycle through therapy, treatment programs, and medications while continuing to feel overwhelmed and stuck, Sarah came to believe that lasting progress requires a home environment designed to support neurodivergent functioning. This led her to create a parent training program focused on helping families build the skills and conditions that support sustainable change. Her practical, compassionate approach centers on emotion regulation, openness to feedback, mental flexibility, and maintaining connection and communication, helping parents move from worry and trial-and-error toward greater confidence and clarity. Through her practice, Sarah provides therapy, coaching, and parent training for families navigating ADHD, autism, PDA, OCD, anxiety, depression, and other complex mental health needs.

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpdanstagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

🍎 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/journeys-with-pda-coffee-chat-podcast/id1681327230

📲 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5TelhjJN6J3Dt8PPfKEm6k?si=a85f893540a142c0

💻YouTube Video Podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaSyUriZW2txMrh8vGLdljVFTf_VgK03d

Support the show

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In this episode of the Journeys with PDA Coffee Chat podcast, hosts Heather and Kerissa welcome special guest and friend of Journeys With PDA, Bailey Hoffner.

Bailey is a poet, mother, white woman, neuroqueer, autistic PDAer, and recovering neuro-conformer. Her well-being is grounded in autonomy, trust, growing self-awareness, and mutual, unconditional love. She currently serves as the Metadata Librarian at Oklahoma State's Edmon Low Library (remotely). In her own research, she is particularly interested in the convergence of libraries and autism. To that end, she is working with autistic librarians across the globe on a research project entitled, “Perceptions and discourses of autism in Library and Information Science literature: a critical interpretive synthesis,” with the purpose of laying a strong foundation for all future research related to autism and libraries.

You can find out more about Bailey at www.substack.com/@badfrench

To learn more about the Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile, visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpdanstagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

🍎 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/journeys-with-pda-coffee-chat-podcast/id1681327230

📲 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5TelhjJN6J3Dt8PPfKEm6k?si=a85f893540a142c0

💻YouTube Video Podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaSyUriZW2txMrh8vGLdljVFTf_VgK03d

Support the show

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In this episode of the Journeys with PDA Coffee Chat podcast, hosts Heather and Kerissa welcome special guest Rike Brand, author of "PDA Parenting."

Rike Brand is the author of the German-language #1 category bestseller "Neustart PDA" and a mother of two. Her journey as a parent sparked her interest in PDA. With a background in cultural anthropology, she has spent years deeply immersed in the PDA community, learning from families, advocates, and lived experience. A seasoned nonfiction author and entrepreneur, Rike combines her research and storytelling skills to create practical, empathetic guidance for parents navigating the complexities of neurodivergent and PDA children. She is an active part of the PDA community on Instagram.

You can find out more about Rike Brand on Instagram @rikebrand.

You can find her book here:

"PDA Parenting"At Journeys With PDA, we offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
The hosts, Heather & Kerissa, and any special guests cannot diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

• To learn more about the Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile, visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpdanstagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

🍎 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/journeys-with-pda-coffee-chat-podcast/id1681327230

📲 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5TelhjJN6J3Dt8PPfKEm6k?si=a85f893540a142c0

💻YouTube Video Podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaSyUriZW2txMrh8vGLdljVFTf_VgK03d

Support the show

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In this episode of the Journeys with PDA Coffee Chat podcast, hosts Heather and Kerissa welcome special guests Doris and Rick Bowman from Bowman Consulting Group, and the authors of "Your FBA is a Fantasy!" and its sequel, "Facing the Fantasy, Finding the Way Forward."

Over the course of more than 20 years in special education, Doris and Rick Bowman—known internationally as “Team Bowman”—have become leading voices in helping schools and organizations better support youth with significant behavioral, emotional, and mental health needs.

You can find more information about Team Bowman by visiting:

bowmanconsultgroup.com/capacity-builders/

facebook.com/trauma.informed.fbas.and.behavior.support.plans

instagram.com/trauma_and_resilience_training/?hl=en

Their books are available on Amazon.

• Your FBA is a Fantasy!: A Guidebook to Creating Truly Trauma-Informed, Neuro-Affirming Functional Behavior Assessments & Behavior Support Plans
• Facing the Fantasy, Finding the Way Forward: Every Educator's Guide to Moving Beyond Behavior Management to Lasting Behavioral Change Using Neuroscience-Aligned, Trauma-Informed Practices

At Journeys With PDA, we offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
The hosts, Heather & Kerissa, and any special guests cannot diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

• To learn more about the Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile, visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpdanstagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

🍎 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/journeys-with-pda-coffee-chat-podcast/id1681327230

📲 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5TelhjJN6J3Dt8PPfKEm6k?si=a85f893540a142c0

💻YouTube Video Podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaSyUriZW2txMrh8vGLdljVFTf_VgK03d

Support the show

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In this episode of the Journeys with PDA Coffee Chat podcast, hosts Heather and Kerissa welcome special guests Caryn and Georgina, who share their insights on Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) and their experiences as educators and authors. They discuss the importance of understanding PDA, the impact of language and labels, and the need for autonomy in children. The conversation also delves into their books, 'Olive's Day' and 'Willow's Day', which aim to provide resources for families and educators to better support children with PDA. The guests emphasize the significance of compassion, inclusivity, and the role of peers in creating supportive environments for neurodivergent children.

• Olive’s Day: Understanding and Navigating PDA – a neuro-affirming story bringing to life the lived experience of children with Pathological Demand Avoidance (Persistent Drive for Autonomy). It offers educators, families, and pupils a psychologically informed way to understand autonomy, anxiety, and emotional safety. Purchase: https://a.co/d/0NzXnRD
• Willow’s Day: Repairing Harm & Building Bridges – a gentle, child-centred introduction to restorative justice, showing how apologies and accountability can repair relationships and build resilience. Purchase: https://a.co/d/aR07WK7

Caryn Price (MA Special & Inclusive Education, MSc Psychology) & Georgina Benger (MEd Restorative Justice, Cantab)

Instagram: https://rb.gy/44filv

We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests cannot diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about the Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile, visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpdanstagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

🍎 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/journeys-with-pda-coffee-chat-podcast/id1681327230

📲 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5TelhjJN6J3Dt8PPfKEm6k?si=a85f893540a142c0

💻YouTube Video Podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaSyUriZW2txMrh8vGLdljVFTf_VgK03d

Support the show

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In this episode, Heather and Kerissa engage in a deep conversation with Sarah Martin, a registered dietitian nutritionist, about the challenges of eating for individuals with Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) and the complexities of Avoidant Restrictive Food Intake Disorder (ARFID). They explore the differences between selective eating and ARFID, the importance of responsive feeding therapy, and how to build positive relationships around food. The discussion emphasizes the need for individualized approaches to nutrition and the significance of autonomy and safety in feeding practices.

"The information provided is for educational purposes only and should not be considered medical advice, a medical recommendation, diagnosis, or treatment suggestion. It is not intended to replace consultation with a qualified physician or other health care provider."

Sarah Martin, RDN, is a Registered Dietitian Nutritionist dedicated to educating and empowering neurodivergent individuals and families to nourish their relationships with food and eating. A late-diagnosed AuDHD PDAer and parent of 3 neurodivergent children, Sarah is in the startup process for her company, Kindred Noodle, to provide neurodivergent-affirming nutrition education and support for her community. She brings a unique understanding of PDA to her work.

Part 1 with Sarah can be found here: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2055881/episodes/17007022

Part 2 with Sarah can be found here: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2055881/episodes/17281792

Connect with Sarah on Facebook and Instagram @KindredNoodle or email [email protected].

We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests cannot diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about the Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile, visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpdanstagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

🍎 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/journeys-with-pda-coffee-chat-podcast/id1681327230

📲 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5TelhjJN6J3Dt8PPfKEm6k?si=a85f893540a142c0

💻YouTube Video Podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaSyUriZW2txMrh8vGLdljVFTf_VgK03d

Support the show

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In this episode, Heather and Kerissa chat with Rachel Crupi & Brad Broyles.

Rachel and Brad are from Polaris Academy in Mesa, Arizona. Polaris Academy is a transformative autism academy dedicated to empowering neurodiverse children.

Find out more about Polaris Academy: www.polarisacademy.org
Connect with Rachel: [email protected]

Connect with Brad: [email protected]

We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests cannot diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about the Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile, visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpda
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

🍎 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/journeys-with-pda-coffee-chat-podcast/id1681327230

📲 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5TelhjJN6J3Dt8PPfKEm6k?si=a85f893540a142c0

💻YouTube Video Podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaSyUriZW2txMrh8vGLdljVFTf_VgK03d

Support the show

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In this episode, Heather and Kerissa chat with Rachel Crupi, M.S., BCBA-LBA.

Rachel Crupi is the Director of Behavior Services at Polaris Academy in Mesa, Arizona. Polaris Academy is a transformative autism academy dedicated to empowering neurodiverse children.

Find out more about Polaris Academy: www.polarisacademy.org
Connect with Rachel: [email protected]


We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests cannot diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about the Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile, visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpda
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

🍎 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/journeys-with-pda-coffee-chat-podcast/id1681327230

📲 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5TelhjJN6J3Dt8PPfKEm6k?si=a85f893540a142c0

💻YouTube Video Podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaSyUriZW2txMrh8vGLdljVFTf_VgK03d

Support the show

https://journeyswithpda.com

In this episode, Heather and Kerissa continue their discussion on nutrition and eating challenges faced by neurodivergent individuals, particularly those with Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA). They are joined by dietitian Sarah Martin, who shares her insights on the complexities of feeding neurodivergent children, the importance of autonomy in eating, and practical strategies for parents. The conversation emphasizes breaking away from traditional food norms, understanding sensory issues, and creating a supportive environment for healthy eating habits.

"The information provided is for educational purposes only and should not be considered medical advice, a medical recommendation, diagnosis, or treatment suggestion. It is not intended to replace consultation with a qualified physician or other health care provider."

Sarah Martin, RDN, is a Registered Dietitian Nutritionist dedicated to educating and empowering neurodivergent individuals and families to nourish their relationships with food and eating. A late-diagnosed AuDHD PDAer and parent of 3 neurodivergent children, Sarah is in the startup process for her company, Kindred Noodle, to provide neurodivergent-affirming nutrition education and support for her community. She brings a unique understanding of PDA to her work.

Part 1 with Sarah can be found here: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2055881/episodes/17007022

Connect with Sarah on Facebook and Instagram @KindredNoodle or email [email protected].

We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests cannot diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about the Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile, visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpdanstagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

🍎 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/journeys-with-pda-coffee-chat-podcast/id1681327230

📲 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5TelhjJN6J3Dt8PPfKEm6k?si=a85f893540a142c0

💻YouTube Video Podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaSyUriZW2txMrh8vGLdljVFTf_VgK03d

Support the show

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In this episode, Heather and Kerissa chat with Leah McDermott.

Leah is a former teacher turned radical unschooling advocate, owner and author at Your Natural Learner, and founder and head of school at Bridge Academy.

Connect with Leah on Facebook and Instagram @yournaturallearner

Learn more about Bridge Academy at https://bridgeacademy.us/

Join Heather & Kerissa as they share from an authentic & real-life perspective with in-depth conversations around neurodiversity, PDA autism profile, and the autistic experience. This, on occasion, includes sensitive and difficult topics. (Topics include but are not limited to mental health crisis, depression, anxiety, burnout, trauma, and suicidal ideation.) All listeners need to be aware of their own emotional well-being and ability to engage in such topics.

We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests cannot diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about the Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile, visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpda
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

Support the show:
https://journeyswithpda.com

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In this episode, Heather and Kerissa chat with Sarah Martin, RDN

Sarah Martin, RDN is a Registered Dietitian Nutritionist dedicated to educating and empowering neurodivergent individuals and families to nourish their relationships with food and eating. A late-diagnosed AuDHD PDAer and parent of 3 neurodivergent children, Sarah is in the startup process for her company, Kindred Noodle, to provide neurodivergent-affirming nutrition education and support for her community. She completed PDA North America's Level 1 and Level 2 trainings in PDA and brings a unique understanding of PDA to her work.

Connect with Sarah on Facebook and Instagram @KindredNoodle or email [email protected].

Join Heather & Kerissa as they share from an authentic & real-life perspective with in-depth conversations around neurodiversity, PDA autism profile, and the autistic experience. This, on occasion, includes sensitive and difficult topics. (Topics include but are not limited to mental health crisis, depression, anxiety, burnout, trauma, and suicidal ideation.) All listeners need to be aware of their own emotional well-being and ability to engage in such topics.

We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests cannot diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about the Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile, visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpda
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

Support the show

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In this episode, Heather and Kerissa chat with Steph Curtis, author of "PDA in the Family: Life After the Lightbulb Moment," and the blog Steph's Two Girls.

You can find more information about Steph Curtis at www.stephstwogirls.co.uk
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/stephstwogirls

Join Heather & Kerissa as they share from an authentic & real-life perspective with in-depth conversations around neurodiversity, PDA autism profile, and the autistic experience. This, on occasion, includes sensitive and difficult topics. (Topics include but are not limited to mental health crisis, depression, anxiety, burnout, trauma, and suicidal ideation.) All listeners need to be aware of their own emotional well-being and ability to engage in such topics.

We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests cannot diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile, visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpda
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

Support the show:

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In this episode, Heather & Kerissa chat with New York Times and International Best Selling Author JD Barker about late diagnosis and being an autistic author.

You can find more information about JD Barker at: https://jdbarker.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/therealjdbarker
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jdbarker_author?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==

Join Heather & Kerissa as they share from an authentic & real-life perspective with in-depth conversations around neurodiversity, PDA autism profile, and the autistic experience. This, on occasion, includes sensitive and difficult topics. (Topics include but are not limited to mental health crisis, depression, anxiety, burnout, trauma, and suicidal ideation.) All listeners need to be aware of their own emotional well-being and ability to engage in such topics.

We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests cannot diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile, visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpda
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

Support the show

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In our Season 3 Kick-Off, Heather & Kerissa chat about accommodations.

Join Heather & Kerissa as they share from an authentic & real-life perspective with in-depth conversations around neurodiversity, PDA autism profile, and the autistic experience. This, on occasion, includes sensitive and difficult topics. (Topics include but are not limited to mental health crisis, depression, anxiety, burnout, trauma, and suicidal ideation.) All listeners need to be aware of their own emotional well-being and ability to engage in such topics.

We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests cannot diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile, visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpda
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

Support the show

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In this episode, Heather & Kerissa reflect and chat on Season 2 of our Coffee Chat Podcast.

Join Heather & Kerissa as they share from an authentic & real-life perspective with in-depth conversations around neurodiversity, PDA autism profile, and the autistic experience. This, on occasion, includes sensitive and difficult topics. (Topics include but are not limited to mental health crisis, depression, anxiety, burnout, trauma, and suicidal ideation.) All listeners need to be aware of their own emotional well-being and ability to engage in such topics.

We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests cannot diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile, visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpda
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In this episode, Heather & Kerissa chat about recognizing autism as a dynamic disability. This means that autistics abilities and challenges can change and evolve, influenced by personal, social, and environmental factors. Autism, when seen as dynamic, allows for a more holistic understanding of the individual's experiences.

Join Heather & Kerissa as they share from an authentic & real-life perspective with in-depth conversations around neurodiversity, PDA autism profile, and the autistic experience. This, on occasion, includes sensitive and difficult topics. (Topics include but are not limited to mental health crisis, depression, anxiety, burnout, trauma, and suicidal ideation.) All listeners need to be aware of their own emotional well-being and ability to engage in such topics.

We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests cannot diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile, visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
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In this episode, Heather & Kerissa chat about an interesting phenomenon known as The Double Empathy Problem. The Double Empathy Problem suggests that when people with very different experiences interact, they will struggle to empathize with each other. This creates misunderstandings between Neurodivergents and Neurotypicals that range from comical to traumatic.

Join Heather & Kerissa as they share from an authentic & real-life perspective with in-depth conversations around neurodiversity, PDA autism profile, and the autistic experience. This, on occasion, includes sensitive and difficult topics. (Topics include but are not limited to mental health crisis, depression, anxiety, burnout, trauma, and suicidal ideation.) All listeners need to be aware of their own emotional well-being and ability to engage in such topics.

We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests cannot diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile, visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpda
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

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In this episode, Heather and Kerissa chat with Clare Truman.

Clare Truman is an education consultant, author, PhD student, and big sister to an autistic young man. She specializes in supporting PDA children and young people to access education.

She is the author of ‘The Teacher’s Guide to Pathological Demand Avoidance: Essential Strategies for the Classroom’ published by Jessica Kingsley Publishers in 2021, and is currently completing a PhD exploring the educational experiences of PDA children and young people.

Clare has taught in mainstream schools, specialist schools, and alternative education settings. Now, through Spectrum Space, Clare provides distance learning packages for children and young people who cannot access school and supports professionals and families through training and consultancy to better meet the needs of PDA children and young people.

To learn more about Clare Truman, visit: https://spectrumspace.co.uk/

Join Heather & Kerissa as they share from an authentic & real-life perspective with in-depth conversations around neurodiversity, PDA autism profile, and the autistic experience. This, on occasion, includes sensitive and difficult topics. (Topics include but are not limited to mental health crisis, depression, anxiety, burnout, trauma, and suicidal ideation.) All listeners need to be aware of their own emotional well-being and ability to engage in such topics.

We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests cannot diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile, visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching.

Support the show

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In this episode, Heather and Kerissa chat with Dr. Donna Henderson about digging deeper into the characteristics of autism that may be missed by traditional assessments.

Dr. Donna Henderson has been a clinical neuropsychologist for over 30 years. She is passionate about identifying and supporting autistic individuals, particularly those who camouflage, and she is co-author (with Drs. Sarah Wayland and Jamell White) of two books: "Is This Autism? A guide for clinicians and everyone else" and "Is This Autism? A companion guide for diagnosing".

Dr. Henderson’s professional home is The Stixrud Group in Silver Spring, Maryland, where she provides neuropsychological evaluations and consultations for children, adolescents, and adults who would like to understand themselves better. She is a sought-after lecturer on the less obvious presentations of autism, autistic girls and women, PDA, and on parenting children with complex profiles. She also provides case consultations and neurodiversity-affirmative training for other healthcare professionals.

To learn more about Dr. Donna Henderson visit: https://www.drdonnahenderson.com/

Join Heather & Kerissa as they share from an authentic & real-life perspective with in-depth conversations around neurodiversity, PDA autism profile, and the autistic experience. This, on occasion, includes sensitive and difficult topics. (Topics include but are not limited to mental health crisis, depression, anxiety, burnout, trauma, and suicidal ideation.) All listeners need to be aware of their own emotional well-being and ability to engage in such topics.

We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests cannot diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile, visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching.

Support the show

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In this episode, Heather and Kerissa chat with Robin Goebel, a former therapist and play therapist, about supporting children with big baffling behaviors and vulnerable nervous systems. Robin discusses her shift from focusing solely on trauma to a broader understanding of neurodivergent minds and the impact of the autonomic nervous system on behavior. She emphasizes the importance of understanding behavior as a response to safety or lack thereof, and the need to support the nervous system rather than trying to control or change behavior. The conversation also touches on the challenges faced by parents and the cultural beliefs that contribute to shame and judgment. The conversation explores the concept of felt safety and its impact on the nervous system. It discusses how external demands can turn into internal cues of danger, leading to chronic stress and burnout. The importance of lowering stress levels below the threshold for the stress response system is emphasized. The conversation also highlights the need for a paradigm shift in how we view and support the nervous system. Practical steps for supporting the nervous system include addressing basic needs like food, water, and movement, as well as focusing on regulation, connection, and felt safety.

Robyn Gobbel, MSW, loves coffee, P!NK, and everything about the brain. Once (recently!) her teenager went ballistic on her for getting ANOTHER (glitter!) coffee mug in the mail. Robyn loves cultivating deep, resonant connections with anyone who is up for it, and is especially fond of all the grown-ups in the world who love and care for kids impacted by trauma- helpers, healers, educators, and parents. Her favorite thing ever (besides glittery coffee mugs) is teaching anyone who will listen to harness the power of neuroscience so they can cultivate deep, resonant connections. What would change in the world if we could all do that? To see, be with, feel, and deeply know each other…and ourselves. Robyn thinks everything could change.
You can get your hands on all sorts of free resources at www.RobynGobbel.com, including her podcast, The Baffling Behavior Show. Robyn is the author of Raising Kids with Big, Baffling Behaviors: Brain-Body-Sensory Strategies that Really Work (September 2023).

Join Heather & Kerissa as they share from an authentic & real-life perspective with in-depth conversations around neurodiversity, PDA autism profile, and the autistic experience. This on occasion includes sensitive and difficult topics. (Topics include but are not limited to; mental health crisis, depression, anxiety, burnout, trauma, and suicidal ideation.) All listeners need to be aware of their own emotional wellbeing and ability to engage in such topics.

We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests are not able to diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpda
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

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In this episode, Heather & Kerissa chat with special guest Sunita Theiss.
Sunita shares her journey as a mother of neurodivergent children and her own neurodivergent identity. She discusses the process of realizing her family's neurodivergence and the freedom it brought. Sunita also talks about the challenges and joys of raising children with Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) and the decision to homeschool. She shares her experience of transitioning to part-time work and the financial considerations that come with it. Sunita emphasizes the importance of letting go of societal expectations and finding what works best for her family. This conversation explores the experiences of neurodivergent parents and the challenges they face in re-evaluating their parenting expectations.
Heather, Kerissa and Sunita discuss the richness of engaging children's interests, the gratitude for the opportunity to parent differently, and the hope for future generations. They also highlight the importance of recognizing autism in women and girls and the journey to self-understanding and self-compassion. The conversation emphasizes the significance of belonging and finding community, both online and in-person, and the need for supportive networks for neurodivergent parents.
Overall, the conversation promotes acceptance, understanding, and the creation of inclusive communities.
Connect with Sunita on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/sunitatheiss/

Join Heather & Kerissa as they share from an authentic & real-life perspective with in-depth conversations around neurodiversity, PDA autism profile, and the autistic experience. This on occasion includes sensitive and difficult topics. (Topics include but are not limited to; mental health crisis, depression, anxiety, burnout, trauma, and suicidal ideation.) All listeners need to be aware of their own emotional wellbeing and ability to engage in such topics.

We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests are not able to diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpda
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

Support the show

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In this episode, Heather & Kerissa discuss the concept of autistic inertia and its impact on PDA individuals and autistic people. Autistic inertia refers to the tendency to remain at rest or keep moving in a constant direction, and it plays a significant role in transitions and task-switching. The discussion explores the frustration and discomfort experienced when interrupted during a flow state. The importance of understanding and respecting inertia is emphasized, along with the need for compassion, empathy, and patience in supporting PDA individuals and autistic people. This conversation explores the concept of autistic inertia and its impact on PDA individuals.


Join Heather & Kerissa as they share from an authentic & real life perspective with in-depth conversations around neurodiversity, PDA autism profile, and the autistic experience. This on occasion includes sensitive and difficult topics. (Topics include but not limited to; mental health crisis, depression, anxiety, burnout, trauma, and suicidal ideation.) All listeners need to be aware of their own emotional wellbeing and ability to engage in such topics.

We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests are not able to diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpda
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/
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In this episode, Heather and Kerissa chat with Lisa Baskin Wright (IEP Coach) about Neurodiversity Affirming IEPs. Lisa discusses her journey and experiences in supporting families with PDA learners. She emphasizes the importance of curiosity and humanizing the child in the IEP process. Lisa also highlights the challenges faced by parents and the need for a common understanding with the school team. She shares examples of advocating for fair and appropriate education for PDA learners, including the establishment of alternative locations. The conversation concludes with a discussion on involving the child in the IEP meeting and the potential impact it can have. Lisa shares tips and suggestions for parents navigating IEP meetings. She emphasizes the importance of preparing before the meeting by submitting a parent input statement that includes important information about the child. Lisa also discusses the need to define engagement and early cues of nervous system activation to support the child effectively.
Lisa has several courses on IEPs for neurodivergent learners and a specific course on supporting PDA learners. Lisa has various supports she offers, including group coaching, one-on-one consultations, and ongoing assistance with IEPs.

Learn more about Lisa on her website: https://www.lisabaskinwright.com/
Find her on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/lisabaskinwright/


Join Heather & Kerissa as they share from an authentic & real life perspective with in-depth conversations around neurodiversity, PDA autism profile, and the autistic experience. This on occasion includes sensitive and difficult topics. (Topics include but not limited to; mental health crisis, depression, anxiety, burnout, trauma, and suicidal ideation.) All listeners need to be aware of their own emotional wellbeing and ability to engage in such topics.

We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests are not able to diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpda
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

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Welcome back! In this episode, Heather & Kerissa kick off season 2 of the podcast discussing the topic of autistic burnout. They define autistic burnout as a syndrome resulting from chronic life stress and a mismatch of expectations and abilities without adequate support. They explore the common characteristics of autistic burnout, such as difficulty with executive functioning, increased intensity of autistic traits, chronic exhaustion, reduced tolerance to stress, confusion, and social withdrawal.
They also discuss the causes of autistic burnout, including the energy expended by autistic individuals to exist in a neurotypical world. They emphasize the importance of supporting individuals in autistic burnout by encouraging rest and providing accommodations. They also highlight the need for open communication and understanding within relationships and families. All while sharing from their personal experiences.


Join Heather & Kerissa as they share from an authentic & real life perspective with in-depth conversations around neurodiversity, PDA autism profile, and the autistic experience. This on occasion includes sensitive and difficult topics. (Topics include but not limited to; mental health crisis, depression, anxiety, burnout, trauma, and suicidal ideation.) All listeners need to be aware of their own emotional wellbeing and ability to engage in such topics.

We offer connection, community & co-regulation. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests are not able to diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpda
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

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In this episode, Heather and Kerissa reminisce and chat about each episode from Season 1. We had such a fantastic first season! We learned so much from our amazing guests! We are so excited about Season 2 coming February '24!!

Season 1

Episode 1: Who We Are

Episode 2: PDA: What it is & Why we care

Episode 3: PDA vs. autistic avoidance

Episode 4: Amanda Diekman, Low-Demand Parenting

Episode 5: No - We aren't all a little autistic

Episode 6: Laura Kerby- ADHD/ Special Interests

Episode 7: Homebody Michelle - PDA Life & Burnout

Episode 8: Suzanne Gunn from themotherload.nd.sleep, PDA & Sleep Part 1

Episode 9: PDA & Sleep Part 2

Episode 10: Jena Forman, Clinical Pharmacist, Part 1

Episode 11: Suzanne Gunn, The weight of parental shame

Episode 12: Jena Forman, Clinical Pharmacist, Part 2

Episode 13: Tricia Wagner, Suicide

Join us as we share from an authentic & real-life perspective on in-depth conversations around neurodiversity, PDA autism profile and the autistic experience. This on occasion includes sensitive and difficult topics. (Topics include but not limited to; mental health crisis, depression, anxiety, burnout, trauma and suicidal ideation.) All listeners need to be aware of their own emotional well-being and ability to engage in such topics.

We offer connection, co-regulation & community. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests are not able to diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpda
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

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In this episode, Heather and Kerissa chat with Tricia Wagner, LCPC and director of Outpatient Services at Shodair Children's Hospital.
We have an open conversation about understanding suicidal thoughts vs. suicidal ideation. Ways to support a child experiencing suicidal ideation. We talk about how to have a conversation with your child about what they are feeling. We also discuss the importance of having a safety plan and steps to take to create one.

*This episode could be challenging to hear as we dig deep into the subject of suicide. We hope to bring this subject out into the light and to better equip parents in supporting their children.

One resource we discuss is https://zerosuicidetraining.edc.org/

Suicide Hotline: 988
https://988lifeline.org/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=onebox


Remember if you are ever unsure of someone's safety call emergency services or take them to the ER.


Join us as we share from an authentic & real life perspective on in-depth conversations around neurodiversity, PDA autism profile and the autistic experience. This on occasion includes sensitive and difficult topics. (Topics include but not limited to; mental health crisis, depression, anxiety, burnout, trauma and suicidal ideation.) All listeners need to be aware of their own emotional wellbeing and ability to engage in such topics.

We offer connection, co-regulation & community. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests are not able to diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpda
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

Support the show

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In this episode, Heather & Kerissa chat with Jena Foreman, Clinical Pharmacist. This is part 2 of the conversation with Jena. They all continue their conversation about prescription medications. We talk about all things medications. We ask the questions you are too afraid to ask. We get the answers parents need for making tough decisions surrounding medications.

*This conversation is for information and educational purposes only. We can not prescribe any treatments or medications. Make sure to contact your medical provider for questions on whether a medication is appropriate for you or your child.

Join us as we share from an authentic & real life perspective on in-depth conversations around neurodiversity, PDA autism profile and the autistic experience. This on occasion includes sensitive and difficult topics. (Topics include but not limited to; mental health crisis, depression, anxiety, burnout, trauma and suicidal ideation.) All listeners need to be aware of their own emotional wellbeing and ability to engage in such topics.

We offer connection, co-regulation & community. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests are not able to diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpda
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

Support the show

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In this episode, Heather & Kerissa chat with their friend and sleep specialist Suzanne Gunn.
Suzanne is the mother of 2 neurodivergent children, both PDAers. She is also a Neurodivergent Sleep Specialist. You can learn more about her at The Motherload Neurodivergent Family Sleep. (https://linktr.ee/themotherloadpda)

We will be chatting about the weight of parental shame that neurodivergent parents experience. Parenting doesn't always go like we hope. Meeting the needs of our children can be challenging. No matter how hard we try there will always be areas that dont end up how we want. Suzanne shares about a very difficult and emotional visit to the dentist with her kids. Unfortunately, she experiences a lot of parental shame about the condition of her child's teeth.
We talk about the tough choices we have to make to support the emotional wellbeing of our kids and the difficult consequences of the compromises we are required to make.

*Please be aware that this is a very emotional episode. We are talking about very tough topics which include; shame, burnout and suicidal ideation. While these topics can be difficult to hear (and talk about), it is so important to bring these subjects to light and support each other.

Join us as we share from an authentic & real life perspective on in-depth conversations around neurodiversity, PDA autism profile and the autistic experience. This on occasion includes sensitive and difficult topics. (Topics include but not limited to; mental health crisis, depression, anxiety, burnout, trauma and suicidal ideation.) All listeners need to be aware of their own emotional wellbeing and ability to engage in such topics.

We offer connection, co-regulation & community. (And a few laughs!)
Journeys With PDA (Heather & Kerissa) and any special guests are not able to diagnose or prescribe treatments. All information is for educational purposes.

To learn more about Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile visit our website at https://journeyswithpda.com/

Heather & Kerissa are Certified PDA Trainers. They offer advocacy, education & family support through one-on-one coaching sessions.
You can connect with Heather & Kerissa through their website and on social media.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/journeyswithpda
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/journeys_with_pda/

Support the show

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