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Welcome to the MicroConf Podcast! Every week, we feature the stories and strategies you need to level up your SaaS business. From the visionaries and makers who fuel sustainable, profitable software companies that don’t need to seek venture capital to make a meaningful impact in their lives.

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  1. MicroConf Tactics: What SaaS Buyers Actually Want in 2026

    16 Min.

    Private equity firms have quietly raised the bar on what metrics they need to see in a SaaS before they’ll conisder putting in an offer. Rob Walling sat down with Einar Vollset from Discretion Capital to break …

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    Private equity firms have quietly raised the bar on what metrics they need to see in a SaaS before they’ll conisder putting in an offer.

    Rob Walling sat down with Einar Vollset from Discretion Capital to break down the 6 moats buyers now require before they'll even consider a deal — and why it matters even if you never plan to sell.

    Links in the podcast:

    Idea to Traction - Preorder before Nov 10 to get all the bonuses.

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the Rob Walling YouTube Channel

    TinySeed SaaS Institute

    Discretion Capital

    The SaaS Playbook

    Episode 836 | The 5 A.I. Moats Acquirers Value Most

  2. MicroConf Tactics: Stop Adding Lazy AI to Your SaaS

    53 Min.

    There are only 6 ways to actually use AI as a feature in your SaaS. After talking with hundreds of TinySeed companies, that's the number I kept landing on. In this talk from MicroConf US in Portland, I break …

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    There are only 6 ways to actually use AI as a feature in your SaaS.

    After talking with hundreds of TinySeed companies, that's the number I kept landing on.

    In this talk from MicroConf US in Portland, I break down all 6, with real examples from companies you know and some you've never heard of.

    Links in the episode:

    Get Your Ticket for MicroConf US- April 18-20, 2027 in Austin, Texas

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the Rob Walling YouTube channel

    Subscribe to the MicroConf YouTube Channel

  3. MicroConf Tactics: What SaaS Buyers Actually Want in 2026

    15 Min.

    Private equity firms have quietly raised the bar on what metrics they need to see in a SaaS before they’ll conisder putting in an offer. I sat down with Einar Vollset from Discretion Capital to break down the 6 …

    Shownotes

    Private equity firms have quietly raised the bar on what metrics they need to see in a SaaS before they’ll conisder putting in an offer.

    I sat down with Einar Vollset from Discretion Capital to break down the 6 moats buyers now require before they'll even consider a deal — and why it matters even if you never plan to sell.

    Links in the episode:

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the YouTube Channel

    TinySummit

    TinySeed SaaS Institute

    Discretion Capital

    The SaaS Playbook

    Episode 836 | The 5 A.I. Moats Acquirers Value Most

  4. MicroConf Tactics: AI is Crushing Big SaaS

    9 Min.

    The "SaaSpocalypse" wiped $2 trillion from public SaaS markets — but the people panicking aren't building the kind of business you are. I break down why the math-terrifying enterprise SaaS giants don't apply to …

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    The "SaaSpocalypse" wiped $2 trillion from public SaaS markets — but the people panicking aren't building the kind of business you are. I break down why the math-terrifying enterprise SaaS giants don't apply to bootstrapped founders, and why the advantages that have always made small teams dangerous are getting stronger in an AI-driven market.

    Links from the Pod

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the Rob Walling YouTube Channel

    MicroConf Europe | Iceland, Sept 21–23, 2026

    Tinyseed Portfolio

    Senior Place

    Mawi

  5. MicroConf Tactics: Start a SaaS From $0 in 2026

    14 Min.

    No savings. No trust fund. No venture capital. Just nights and weekends. That's how most successful SaaS companies start — including mine. I walk through what it costs, what's free, how to build without cash …

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    No savings. No trust fund. No venture capital. Just nights and weekends. That's how most successful SaaS companies start — including mine.

    I walk through what it costs, what's free, how to build without cash, and how to find your first customers on a tiny budget.

    Links:

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the Rob Walling YouTube Channel

    Join Idea To Traction Waitlist - New book launches in October

    The 9-to-5 Audit

    Startups for the Rest of Us Podcast

    MicroConf Connect

    The SaaS Playbook

  6. MicroConf Tactics: Is Mailchimp the Greatest Bootstrapped SaaS Ever?

    24 Min.

    This is the story of MailChimp. Welcome to SaaS Legends, a series where Rob Walling tells the stories of the founders who built the most iconic software companies, and what you can learn from them. In this …

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    This is the story of MailChimp.

    Welcome to SaaS Legends, a series where Rob Walling tells the stories of the founders who built the most iconic software companies, and what you can learn from them.

    In this episode I break down how Ben Chestnut and Dan Kurzius accidentally invented freemium, said no to VCs for 20 years, and built one of the most valuable software companies ever created, without following anyone else’s playbook.

    Links from the Pod

    Subscribe to the Rob Walling YouTube channel

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Join MicroConf Connect

    Watch the full Ben Chestnut interview

  7. MicroConf Tactics: The Real Reason SaaS Customers Cancel (here's how to fix it)

    12 Min.

    Every time a customer cancels, you tell yourself a story about why. Most of the time, that story is wrong. Rob Walling break down the biggest churn patterns I’ve seen kill SaaS companies and how to figure out …

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    Every time a customer cancels, you tell yourself a story about why.

    Most of the time, that story is wrong.

    Rob Walling break down the biggest churn patterns I’ve seen kill SaaS companies and how to figure out which ones you can actually fix.

    Links from the Pod

    Subscribe to the Rob Walling YouTube Channel

    Watch this video on YouTube

    The SaaS Playbook, Free Sample Chapter

    TinySeed Accelerator

  8. MicroConf Tactics: The ‘Old Rules’ of SaaS Still Win

    7 Min.

    AI is changing SaaS, but not everything. Rob Walling breaks down the 5 fundamentals that still determine whether your business survives, and why ignoring them means no amount of AI will save you. Links from the …

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    AI is changing SaaS, but not everything.

    Rob Walling breaks down the 5 fundamentals that still determine whether your business survives, and why ignoring them means no amount of AI will save you.

    Links from the Pod

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the MicroConf YouTube Channel

    Subscribe to the Rob Walling YouTube Channel

    MicroConf Mastermind Matching Program (Applications are open in the Fall)

    Senior Place

  9. MicroConf Tactics: Not Sure How to Market Your SaaS? Start Here

    17 Min.

    Rob Walling has seen 5 B2B SaaS marketing strategies work over and over, and in this video, he breaks down how AI is changing each one in 2026, what's different (and what's not), and how to prioritize based on …

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    Rob Walling has seen 5 B2B SaaS marketing strategies work over and over, and in this video, he breaks down how AI is changing each one in 2026, what's different (and what's not), and how to prioritize based on your product.

    Links from the Pod

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the Rob Walling YouTube Channel

    MicroConf Connect

    Grab a free sample chapter of the SaaS Playbook

    The SaaS Playbook

  10. MicroConf Tactics: SaaS is Hard Until You Learn These 4 Skills

    17 Min.

    Most SaaS founders hit a wall and can't figure out why they won't grow. After working with thousands of founders and investing in over 230 SaaS companies, I've found the same root cause almost every time: a gap …

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    Most SaaS founders hit a wall and can't figure out why they won't grow.

    After working with thousands of founders and investing in over 230 SaaS companies, I've found the same root cause almost every time: a gap in one of four core skills every SaaS needs to survive.

    In this video I'll break down what those skills are and what to do if you're missing one.

    Links from the Pod:

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the Rob Walling YouTube Channel

    Subscribe to Rob Walling's Essays

    Episode 807 | The “Core Four” SaaS Skills and Knowing When You Should Find a Co-founder (A Rob Solo Adventure)

    Episode 811 | When to Delegate the “Core Four SaaS Skills,” Freemium Retention Rates, and More Listener Questions (A Rob Solo Adventure)

    Episode 728 | Bootstrapping Gymdesk to a More Than $32.5M Exit

    TinySeed Portfolio

  11. MicroConf Tactics: AI Ads Will Be The Next Land Grab (Here's How I'd Play It)

    13 Min.

    Early Google and Facebook ads felt like a cheat code. Then the advantage disappeared. AI chat platforms are introducing ads now, and this might be another early window. The real challenge is timing. Today I’ll …

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    Early Google and Facebook ads felt like a cheat code. Then the advantage disappeared.

    AI chat platforms are introducing ads now, and this might be another early window. The real challenge is timing.

    Today I’ll show you how to get that timing right and avoid the common traps I’ve seen across hundreds of SaaS companies.

    Links from the Pod

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the Rob Walling YouTube Channel

    MicroConf Europe September 21-23, 2026 in Reykjavik, Iceland

    SaaS Institute

  12. MicroConf Tactics: Give Me 36 Minutes and I'll Teach You How to Find $1M SaaS Ideas

    38 Min.

    I surveyed 200+ founders making $1K-$100K+/month to find out how successful founders came up with their SaaS idea. In this video I break down the 8 proven methods they used—with real examples from dozens of …

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    I surveyed 200+ founders making $1K-$100K+/month to find out how successful founders came up with their SaaS idea.

    In this video I break down the 8 proven methods they used—with real examples from dozens of founders.

    Spoiler: 72% found their idea through their work. Your next SaaS might be hiding in plain sight.

    Links from the Pod

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the MicroConf YouTube Channel

    Free 9-5 Audit (find your SaaS idea at your day job)

    75+ Marketplace opportunities

    Get early access to my upcoming book

    SaaS Launchpad

    Huge thanks to all of the folks who filled out the survey!

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  13. MicroConf Tactics: 9 Brutal Truths About Startups I Know After 20 Years in SaaS

    14 Min.

    SaaS is an incredible business model, with recurring revenue, high margins, and big exits. But there’s a dark side most founders don’t see until it’s too late. In this ep, I break down the uncomfortable truths …

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    SaaS is an incredible business model, with recurring revenue, high margins, and big exits. But there’s a dark side most founders don’t see until it’s too late.

    In this ep, I break down the uncomfortable truths every founder should know before they dive in.

    Links in the Pod:

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the MicroConf YouTube Channel

    MicroConf Europe September 21-23 · Reykjavik, Iceland

  14. MicroConf Tactics: What's ACTUALLY Happening in SaaS Right Now

    10 Min.

    Rob Walling shares how he's seeing AI affect the SaaS landscape, explains why he doesn’t believe AI will ever kill SaaS, and outlines where the biggest opportunities are for ambitious bootstrapped founders …

    Shownotes

    Rob Walling shares how he's seeing AI affect the SaaS landscape, explains why he doesn’t believe AI will ever kill SaaS, and outlines where the biggest opportunities are for ambitious bootstrapped founders today.

    Links from the Pod

    Watch this video on YouTube

    MicroConf Mastermind Matching

    Subscribe to the Rob Walling YouTube Channel

    MicroConf Connect

  15. MicroConf Tactics: Coding in 2026 is STILL a Superpower (Even with AI)

    10 Min.

    Is learning to code still worth it in 2026? Rob Walling breaks down what’s actually happening in the industry, why coding is still one of the highest-leverage skills you can learn, and how he’d approach …

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    Is learning to code still worth it in 2026?

    Rob Walling breaks down what’s actually happening in the industry, why coding is still one of the highest-leverage skills you can learn, and how he’d approach learning to code if he were starting from scratch today.

    Links from the Pod

    MicroConf Mastermind Matching

    MicroConf Mastermind Guide

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the Rob Walling YouTube Channel

    SaaS Launchpad and “The DNA of a Great SaaS Idea”

    Frontend Mentor

    Boot.dev

  16. MicroConf Tactics: 6 Signs Your SaaS MVP Is Not Good Enough (nobody teaches this)

    14 Min.

    In this video, Rob Walling breaks down 6 real reasons your MVP flopped from solving the wrong problem to over-promising what your product can’t yet deliver, and shows you exactly how to fix each one. Links from …

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    In this video, Rob Walling breaks down 6 real reasons your MVP flopped from solving the wrong problem to over-promising what your product can’t yet deliver, and shows you exactly how to fix each one.

    Links from the Pod

    MicroConf US - Portland - Use Promocode ROB50 for $50 off

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the Rob Walling YouTube channel

    SaaS Launchpad and “The DNA of a Great SaaS Idea”

    The Mom Test

  17. MicroConf Tactics: You're Working on the WRONG Things - here's how to fix it

    10 Min.

    Rob Walling shares the Certainty vs. Uncertainty Framework, the system he’s used to build six companies and invest in over 250 startups to help you stop mistaking “busy” for “effective,” and focus on what truly …

    Shownotes

    Rob Walling shares the Certainty vs. Uncertainty Framework, the system he’s used to build six companies and invest in over 250 startups to help you stop mistaking “busy” for “effective,” and focus on what truly drives progress.

    Links from the Pod

    MicroConf Europe Tickets are on Sale - Reykjavik, Iceland - Sept 21-23rd, 2026

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the Rob Walling YouTube Channel

    Episode 720 | How to Prioritize Your Focus (In Both Your Startup and Personal Life)

    The SaaS Playbook

    Buy Back Your Time

  18. MicroConf Tactics: I Obsessed Over Product-Market Fit - Here Are the 5 Stages of PMF

    15 Min.

    Rob Walling breaks down the five phases of Product-Market Fit, showing how founders can identify where they are on the spectrum and what specific actions will move them forward. Most founders think …

    Shownotes

    Rob Walling breaks down the five phases of Product-Market Fit, showing how founders can identify where they are on the spectrum and what specific actions will move them forward.

    Most founders think product-market fit is a switch that suddenly flips on, but it’s not!

    Links from the Pod

    TinySeed Application are open until 2/17/26

    TinySeed Applications Live Q&A- February 11th, 10AM EST

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the MicroConf YouTube Channel

  19. There’s ONLY 5 Ways to Use AI in SaaS (prove me wrong)

    11 Min.

    Every founder is asking the same question: “Am I falling behind on AI?” In this video, Rob Walling breaks down the five ways startups are using AI and which ones actually work. He covers everything from using …

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    Every founder is asking the same question: “Am I falling behind on AI?”

    In this video, Rob Walling breaks down the five ways startups are using AI and which ones actually work. He covers everything from using AI as your core product to leveraging it for growth and operations, including real-world examples from SaaS founders.

    Can’t find a developer, and now you’re frustrated with the hiring process?

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    Start your 7-day free trial at https://g2i.co/microconf and mention MicroConf for $1500 off your first invoice!

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    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the Rob Walling YouTube Channel

    Get Your Tickets for MicroConf Europe 2026

    Get Your Tickets for MicroConf US 2026

    Use promo code ‘ROB50’ to get $50 off your ticket.

  20. MicroConf Tactics: How to Hire Your First Developer (Avoid These 7 COSTLY Mistakes)

    11 Min.

    Hiring your first developer or engineer is a huge milestone and it’s easy to make costly mistakes. In this video, Rob Walling shares the seven most common pitfalls founders face when hiring a developer for the …

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    Hiring your first developer or engineer is a huge milestone and it’s easy to make costly mistakes.

    In this video, Rob Walling shares the seven most common pitfalls founders face when hiring a developer for the first time, plus expert tips to help you build your startup team with confidence.

    Can’t find a developer, and now you’re frustrated with the hiring process?

    G2i gives you access to over 8,000 pre-vetted engineers ‍‍ - no AI-generated resumes, just real, experienced candidates ready to join your team.

    Start your 7-day free trial at https://g2i.co/microconf and mention MicroConf for $1500 off your first invoice!

    Links in the Pod:

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the Rob Walling YouTube Channel

    MicroConf Masterminds

    MicroConf Connect

  21. MicroConf Tactics: The Silent Killer of Startups (And How to Prevent It)

    10 Min.

    In this episode, Rob Walling shares why building alone is dangerous, what your real options are, and exactly how to surround yourself with other founders who can help you navigate the chaos without losing your …

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    In this episode, Rob Walling shares why building alone is dangerous, what your real options are, and exactly how to surround yourself with other founders who can help you navigate the chaos without losing your mind.

    Links from the Pod

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the MicroConf YouTube Channel

    MicroConf’s Mastermind Matching Program

    Get your free copy of the MicroConf Masterminds Guide

  22. MicroConf Tactics: How TinySeed Helped Harris Grow His SaaS to $500k ARR (in 1 Year)

    17 Min.

    Rob Walling chats with Harris Kenny, founder of OutboundSync, about how he took a low-code MVP and, with seed funding from TinySeed, scaled it into a SaaS business generating over $500K in annual recurring …

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    Rob Walling chats with Harris Kenny, founder of OutboundSync, about how he took a low-code MVP and, with seed funding from TinySeed, scaled it into a SaaS business generating over $500K in annual recurring revenue — all in just one year.

    Links in the episode:

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the MicroConf YouTube Channel

    OutboundSync

    TinySeed Accelerator Program

    Bonus Coaching Call

    TinySeed Tales Season 5

    Startups for the Rest of Us Podcast

  23. MicroConf Tactics: How to Perfectly Position Your B2B Brand in 34 Minutes

    34 Min.

    Unlock the most effective homepage positioning framework used by top-performing SaaS founders. In this video, Anthony Pierri of Fletch PPM breaks down how to craft a homepage that instantly communicates what …

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    Unlock the most effective homepage positioning framework used by top-performing SaaS founders. In this video, Anthony Pierri of Fletch PPM breaks down how to craft a homepage that instantly communicates what your product does, who it’s for, and why it matters, boosting clarity, conversions, and customer trust.

    Perfect for founders and marketers looking to level up their SaaS website strategy.

    Links from the Pod

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the MicroConf YouTube Channel

    Get your ticket to MicroConf US 2026 | Portland, OR | April 12-14, 2026

    MicroConf Events

    Fletch PPM

    Follow Anthony on Linkedin

  24. MicroConf Tactics: 5 BORING Decisions That Made Me a Multi-Millionaire

    13 Min.

    After 20 years building and exiting SaaS companies, Rob Walling looks back and pinpoints the 5 choices that made all the difference, from launching his first product to bootstrapping and exiting apps for …

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    After 20 years building and exiting SaaS companies, Rob Walling looks back and pinpoints the 5 choices that made all the difference, from launching his first product to bootstrapping and exiting apps for life-changing money.

    Links from the Pod

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the MicroConf YouTube Channel

    Join MicroConf Connect

    Startups for the Rest of Us Podcast

    Rob's 10 Best Entrepreneurial Decisions (Full List Here)

  25. MicroConf Tactics: NEVER Make These 6 Mistakes (Lessons from 20 Years in Business)

    12 Min.

    Rob Walling shares 6 founder regrets that didn’t just cost him money, they nearly derailed his business. From invisible mindset traps to avoidable missteps in hiring and decision-making, each one reveals …

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    Rob Walling shares 6 founder regrets that didn’t just cost him money, they nearly derailed his business. From invisible mindset traps to avoidable missteps in hiring and decision-making, each one reveals something most founders don’t realize until it’s too late.

    Links from the Pod

    MicroConf Remote

    MicroConf Events

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the MicroConf YouTube Channel

  26. MicroConf Tactics: The BEST Sales Funnel For Your SaaS (new data changed my advice)

    12 Min.

    In this episode, Rob Walling breaks down data-backed strategies to improve your trial funnel and explains why most SaaS founders should rethink freemium vs. free trial. Backed by insights from the nearly 700+ …

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    In this episode, Rob Walling breaks down data-backed strategies to improve your trial funnel and explains why most SaaS founders should rethink freemium vs. free trial. Backed by insights from the nearly 700+ startups who participated in the State of Independent SaaS Report and 200+ of his own investments.

    Links from the Pod

    MicroConf US Tickets are on Sale

    2024 State of Independent SaaS Report

    MicroConf Connect

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the MicroConf YouTube Channel

  27. MicroConf Tactics: Break Through the 7 SaaS Plateaus

    31 Min.

    Plateaus are the death of SaaS; unless you know how to spot and beat them. In this talk from MicroConf New Orleans in 2025, Rob Walling shares real data from 192 startups and reveals how to break through the 7 …

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    Plateaus are the death of SaaS; unless you know how to spot and beat them.

    In this talk from MicroConf New Orleans in 2025, Rob Walling shares real data from 192 startups and reveals how to break through the 7 SaaS growth plateaus- including leaky funnels, high churn, lack of leads, and losing product-market fit.

    Links from the Pod

    MicroConf US 2026 Tickets are on sale!

    MicroConf Remote Tickets are on Sale | November 5, 2025

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the MicroConf YouTube Channel

  28. MicroConf Tactics: Why to Avoid B2C SaaS at All Costs

    12 Min.

    In this episode, Rob reveals why selling to consumers (rather than businesses) is so freaking hard. He shares the only B2C SaaS strategy he would ever bet on, after starting 6 companies, investing in 224 SaaS …

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    In this episode, Rob reveals why selling to consumers (rather than businesses) is so freaking hard. He shares the only B2C SaaS strategy he would ever bet on, after starting 6 companies, investing in 224 SaaS startups, and writing 5 books on building life-changing businesses.

    Links from the Pod

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the MicroConf YouTube Channel

    MicroConf Mastermind Applications are Open

    MicroConf Connect

    Castos

    Startups For the Rest of Us Podcast

  29. MicroConf Tactics: Responding to the Brutal Comments on My Recent Video

    14 Min.

    Rob read the comments. Every last one of them. 225+ and some were wild. He’s here to break it down, clear the air, and set the story straight. Watch the video that caused all this …

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    Rob read the comments. Every last one of them. 225+ and some were wild. He’s here to break it down, clear the air, and set the story straight.

    Watch the video that caused all this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rXXRdB3TJI&t=2s

    Links from the Pod

    MicroConf Masterminds

    Watch this video on YouTube

    Subscribe to the MicroConf YouTube Channel

    TinySeed Portfolio

    Rob's Books

    Startups For the Rest of Us Podcast

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