Winning Is Fun. Let’s Try It Again.

A blue wave swept America on Tuesday, but where is it headed? Jon sits down with top campaign advisor Morris Katz to talk about what lessons Democrats should take away from the midterm landslide, why the progressive vs. moderate debate is misguided, and how Republicans got impaled on their own culture war sword.

Morris worked on several midterm campaigns—including Texas Governor-elect Gina Hinojosa’s—and he shares what he learned in the races he helped win: what made the best campaign ads break through? Is the Democratic Party more united than it seems online? And what should Democrats take from all of this into 2028—besides absolute certainty that whatever they already believed was right?

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