Self-management over hierarchy: a masterclass with Helen Sanderson

What happens when you stop being "the boss" and start treating your team like they actually matter?

In this episode, Joe sits down with Helen Sanderson to discuss the radical experiment of Wellbeing Teams. Helen walked away from a traditional CEO role to prove that "Self-Management" isn't just a buzzword, it’s a way to save lives.

By ditching CVs for "Heart," writing "Scare Away Letters" to find the right people, and replacing rigid rules with trust, her team achieved something impossible: They were 5 times (500%) less likely to see their patients admitted to the hospital.

If you’ve ever felt like a "cog in a machine" or wondered if there’s a kinder way to lead, this story is for you.

In this episode, we explore:

• The "Scare Away Letter": Why being radically honest about the "bad parts" of a job builds the best teams.
• Hiring for Heart: Why Helen stopped looking at CVs and started looking for "mattering."
• The 50x Result: The data-backed proof that relational working outperforms traditional "Time and Task" management.
• The "Boss" Trap: How Helen learned to give up control to find real psychological safety.
• The Bitter Truth: Why an "Outstanding" rated team had to close down because the system wasn't ready for it.

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