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SURVEY_PROGRAM: A podcast about DELTARUNE

SURVEY_PROGRAM: A podcast about DELTARUNE

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An in-depth discussion of the themes, cultural impact, and history of Deltarune by Toby Fox, with a rotating panel of guests.

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  1. Episode 46: Episodic Content that Deteriorates in Quality Over Time

    1 Std. 2 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 46

    Lucretia boldly asks Kate an unexpected question: Is Chapter 5 even good? Is Deltarune good? We talk about the criticisms we have about the game, take a closer look at the gameplay mechanics, and think about …

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    Lucretia boldly asks Kate an unexpected question: Is Chapter 5 even good? Is Deltarune good? We talk about the criticisms we have about the game, take a closer look at the gameplay mechanics, and think about the folks that don’t connect with the game. Then we escape on the money plane.

    Check out Lucretia on YouTube, home of the Money Plane YTP collab featuring Kate and many others.

    Topics: Halloween and election fever. Inconsistent RPG elements. Bullet hells. Gaster dess lostgirl medias. What’s going on with the no-recruits route? Secret boss gimmicks vs. regular fights. Talkin’ about Touhou and Zelda. Ramb. Where the women at? Platforming ruled ok. Backtracking and traversal. Kate liked the climbing. The vaguepost king and the suicide cowboy. Chapter 1 nostalgia is weird for players who didn’t wait 8 years. Why am I doing a podcast about a game that isn’t my favorite? Castle Town doesn’t work. Spamton, Queen and Yiik.

    We reference Episode 40 with Andrew Cunningham, Episode 8, part 2, about OFF, Episode 23, about YIIK and Episode 9, about Rouxls.

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  2. Episode 45: A Concert Just for Me

    51 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 45

    Kate and Sophia talk about their experiences going to Undertale: The Determination Symphony, including talk about the business of special symphony shows, thoughts on the arrangement, and re-experiencing …

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    Kate and Sophia talk about their experiences going to Undertale: The Determination Symphony, including talk about the business of special symphony shows, thoughts on the arrangement, and re-experiencing Undertale.

    Topics: Colorado’s crazy-ass local politics. GI Joe: The Rise of Cobra. The Canadian Rockies. Cosplayers. Crowd-favorite characters and cheering etiquette. The arrangements. Undertale still hits! We talk about Papyrus, finally, including Knight discussion. Undertale’s comedic forebears in gaming are underdiscussed. Some brief discussion of Vivian in Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door and other Mario RPGs. The player on the symphony video background was so bad. Determination is a cosmo and Bravery is non-alcoholic. Cocktail diversion. Blind bags and gambling. Funko Field. Birdbrain.

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  3. Episode 44: I... can't think of anyone as messed up as them.

    1 Std. 6 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 44

    Valerie and Jackie discuss Kris and the Knight as T-for-Teen analogues of modern media about school shootings, troubled teens and problem children. (Featuring a lot of discussion of Matt Johnson’s The …

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    Valerie and Jackie discuss Kris and the Knight as T-for-Teen analogues of modern media about school shootings, troubled teens and problem children. (Featuring a lot of discussion of Matt Johnson’s The Dirties.)

    Topics: Seriously looking at dark worlds. Kris brings a weapon to school! Dess as a bad influence. Deltarune’s use of humor to couch serious topics. The Roaring. The sword route as a Doom level of Hometown. The power of violence and play. Susie’s role in this. Satanic Panic. The Weird Route and suicidal imagery. Noelle’s derealization. Abuse is a product of circumstances. The normal route might be worse! More Suselle pessimism on SURVEY_PROGRAM podcast. Personal stories about small town life. The ending. Can Kris be forgiven?

    Sources: The Dirties. Baldur’s Tumblr analysis of Kris and Card Kingdom.

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    Music: Hywell’s Black Knife remix and

  4. Episode 43: To be human. We wanted to know... What that meant.

    Shadow of Roserade returns to talk to Kate about Deltarune’s flowers and how they’ve changed the world of talking about Undertale humans, as well as post-demo updates from Undertale: Cooking with Kindness. At …

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    Shadow of Roserade returns to talk to Kate about Deltarune’s flowers and how they’ve changed the world of talking about Undertale humans, as well as post-demo updates from Undertale: Cooking with Kindness. At the end of the episode, we get an exclusive preview of a new Cooking with Kindness NPC.

    Check out the Undertale: Cooking with Kindness soundtrack on Bandcamp, or previous Shadow of Roserade episodes.

    Topics: SLEEPY_PROGRAM. Weather talk. Materia Collective. A24 and the SCP Foundation. Kate still hasn’t played UTY. Metroid Dread and Kirby and the Forgotten Land diversions. Playing Smash with Sakurai. Green vs. Sunny vs. Wile E. Coyote. Coyote/Roadrunner yaoi. Diversity of body types and communciation styles in UT/DR. What is going on with Susie and humans? Flowey’s transgender themes. Blue/Yellow. Everyone’s secrets. Aqua and flowers’ subversion of their soul traits. More Earthbound talk. “Good artists copy, great artists steal, and the best artists steal and make them transgender.” Then we take some listener questions.

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  5. Episode 42: The KINGDOM OF DARKNESS

    1 Std. 6 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 42

    Nillin and Serena talk about Kingdom Hearts and what we can get out of viewing Deltarune through its lens, plus what makes it such a weird, unique and enduring story.Topics: Forgetting about Disney. The …

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    Nillin and Serena talk about Kingdom Hearts and what we can get out of viewing Deltarune through its lens, plus what makes it such a weird, unique and enduring story.

    Topics: Forgetting about Disney. The pervasive aesthetic influence of KH on 2000s youths. Light-dark duality across fiction. Mickey Mouse is here. The world without adults. There’s so many of these games dude. Sora gets shot with a gun. KH1 has a gonermaker sequence. Twilight Town and Hometown. Inexplicable mechanics. Soul/heart mechanics…does this remind you of anything? Is Gaster DiZ? Yoko Shimomura arranged Megalovania. Riku is the most susceptible to cartoon villains of all time. Kris-Riku parallels. The Only Girl and other weird gender stuff. The force of protagonism. Theorybait all the time.

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  6. Episode 41: Chapter 3, The Isles of Northernlight

    1 Std. 9 Min.Staffel 1 · Folge 41

    BQ’s blind playthrough series continues with Chapter 3. Kate asks them about being the only person on Earth who has played Ch 3 but not Ch 4, and how it stands on its own. Check out BQ’s past episodes in the …

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    BQ’s blind playthrough series continues with Chapter 3. Kate asks them about being the only person on Earth who has played Ch 3 but not Ch 4, and how it stands on its own.

    Check out BQ’s past episodes in the blind playthrough series.

    Topics: Huge tone shift. Actual Spamtenna discussion on SURVEY_PROGRAM. Doing taxes while drunk. Kate briefly forgets the name of the podcast. The overall plot. The omegaverse, again. Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma. 30 Rock. Is Chapter 3 even good without Sword Route? Ramb. Learning more about Dess’s shadow. Ralsei and darkners’ self-conception. IMAGE_FRIEND. Listener questions about Susie, Tenna, The Amazing Digital Circus and more.

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  7. Episode 40: An Ocean of Ink

    1 Std. 14 Min.Staffel 1 · Folge 40

    Deltarune video essayist Andrew Cunningham joins Kate to discuss his oeuvre of video essays, his background with the game, how theorizing and the community has changed over time, and his upcoming Ink Theory …

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    Deltarune video essayist Andrew Cunningham joins Kate to discuss his oeuvre of video essays, his background with the game, how theorizing and the community has changed over time, and his upcoming Ink Theory Part 2.

    Topics: Initial letdown at Chapter 1. Differences in sentimental approach between Undertale and Deltarune. What got us into thinking more deeply about the game. The Device Theory. Mad about the Knight. Early ideas about the Soul. If you know Gaster, you know ball. Noelle the game-breaker. Inspirations from Jon Bois. Dess-Chara overlap. Kris knight history. Where Carol fits into all this. The symbols behind Ink Theory. Whole-text internal corpus analysis vs. comparative views. Echoes, loops, and duality in Deltarune. Why Tesla? A certain webcomic. Disappointed reactions to Chapter 5. What is a ‘lorehead?’ The Mike trio. The Twitter doppelganger.

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    Cover art by Jett (Cordyceptic on Tumblr).

  8. Episode 39: I'm... Love Master. Don't ask me about LOVE's.

    1 Std. 5 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 39

    The top international logistics podcast in the world returns to discuss the crisis in international shipping due to the closure of the Strait of Hormuz. Kate, Jackie and Jade also discuss romance, shipping and …

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    The top international logistics podcast in the world returns to discuss the crisis in international shipping due to the closure of the Strait of Hormuz. Kate, Jackie and Jade also discuss romance, shipping and fanfiction in Deltarune.

    Topics: We play Tradle. Shipping in Deltarune vs. Undertale. Berdly fans’ people’s war. Suselle investment advice. The Festival. Somehow even more discussion of Pizzapants. Susie and the prophecy. What the weird route DOESN’T change. Why people ship. The conflict between “loreheads” and character-driven fans. How people write Kris. AO3’s shitty tag system. Susie’s thoughts on love. Ralsei’s marketability. And then we get to the good stuff: Ranking ships. (We don’t actually rank them.) Kate tries to sell the gang on Kralsei. We talk about Berdly more. The shadow of Dessriel. Do diehards have Suselle fatigue? Oops, we ran out of time to talk about Spamtenna!

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  9. Episode 38: Who's Alphys?

    53 Min.Staffel 1 · Folge 38

    Kate is joined by Malady to discuss the yellow lizard scientist/teacher lady, her flaws, relationships, and her place in the worlds of Undertale and Deltarune.Topics: Marmite. Golf. Jay Leno. Undertale as a …

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    Kate is joined by Malady to discuss the yellow lizard scientist/teacher lady, her flaws, relationships, and her place in the worlds of Undertale and Deltarune.

    Topics: Marmite. Golf. Jay Leno. Undertale as a gateway to literary analysis. Mental health, masking and guilt. Does Alphys suck? Relationships with Undyne, Sans, Asgore, Gerson, and Mettaton. Hetgems. Loneliness and alienation in Hometown.

    Edited by Malady. Check her out at Weedhacker.net.

    Cover art from Undertale tarot cards by Dogbomber.

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  10. Episode 37: THE KNIGHT WHICH MAKES WITH BLACKENED KNIFE

    1 Std. 10 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 37

    Kate and Goomy are joined by first-time guest Ana for a discussion on their papers “Who Is Carol Holiday?” and “DELTARUNE: Life Advice” plus more discussion about the Knight, Carol, the main narrative thrust of …

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    Kate and Goomy are joined by first-time guest Ana for a discussion on their papers “Who Is Carol Holiday?” and “DELTARUNE: Life Advice” plus more discussion about the Knight, Carol, the main narrative thrust of Deltarune, and more.

    Check out Goomy’s new Lost Girl remix and Bandcamp.

    Topics include: Basic narrative structure. When Deltarune really hooked us. YOU are an obsessive. Time capsules of community thought. New information about the shadow crystals. More on the weird route and agency. The shadow Dess left. Parallels between Kris and the Knight. The Knight and prophecy are not engines of staid conservatism. A little of bit of trans Ralsei vis-à-vis the prophecy. The Knight is genderweird, too! What Gerson’s really saying. Which could mean nothing. Some talk on “other knights.” Are we stagnating as a community? I’LL BE RIGHT THERE. What if we gave Laura Palmer a big $$$$-ing sword?

    Shoutouts to fallencalf and “What’s Up With That Gaster Fella?” by Baldur.

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  11. Episode 36: Thaaaaaat's Politics

    1 Std. 6 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 36

    Political organizer Samuel Lipson joins Kate for questions about the politics and government of Hometown and a perspective from outside the fandom.Topics: Escapism vs. reality is a little more complicated …

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    Political organizer Samuel Lipson joins Kate for questions about the politics and government of Hometown and a perspective from outside the fandom.

    Topics: Escapism vs. reality is a little more complicated. Prophecy talk. Sword Art Online. Our history as political organizers. Ettingermentum. Graham Platner and Abdul El-Sayed. Primary night stories. What makes New England small towns different? Hometown government’s abnormal structure for a city its size. Dying small towns and the appeal of the Dark World. Who did all the adults vote for in the 2020 presidential primary? Is Toriel a normie lib? Hometown’s Bernie Bros. Much Carol talk. Kate unfriends the guest mid-recording. Asgore divorce spiral. What Sans knows.

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  12. Episode 35: I'm Milklooker

    Okay it’s not actually a Milklooker episode. It’s a filler episode. Xtine returns to terrorize Kate for an hour of somewhat Deltarune-related talk. I dunno guys. This one got out of control.

  13. Episode 34: Chapter 2, The City of the Shining

    1 Std. 21 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 34

    Kate hears BQ’s reactions to playing Chapter 2 for the first time in 2026.Check out their previous episodes: Undertale without Deltarune and Chapter 1.Topics: Charlie Rose for some reason. Kris’s room. The …

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    Kate hears BQ’s reactions to playing Chapter 2 for the first time in 2026.

    Check out their previous episodes: Undertale without Deltarune and Chapter 1.

    Topics: Charlie Rose for some reason. Kris’s room. The funniest theory of Ralsei’s origins yet. Dangerous amounts of Benadryl and weed. Berdly as Scott Pilgrim. Increased scale and scope of Chapter 2. Metaphorical Darkner designs. A World Cup diversion. The…interesting aspects of Tasque Manager and Werewire’s designs. Noelle’s history. Being put in the girl box. First exposure to the Weird Route. “Smuggling in” mature ideas. More thoughts on gamers. Introducing a brand-new Chapter 2-era Kris Demonology Theory. It Means Tity. December’s conspicuous absence. Asriel’s religion. Soriel oviposition. Noelle’s parents. Reactions to the cliffhanger.

    References: Sports spinoff episode. Baseball episode. Chapter 5 Weird Route.

    (Cover art from Chapter 2 concept art by Gigi D.G..)

  14. Episode 33: Prison is Now Only for Dads!

    59 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 33

    Kate and Sophia talk dads, dads and more dads: Asgore, Rudy, Gerson, King, and even Mr. Cattenheimer. They break down the role of fatherhood in the story, and the ways dads fail across the story. (This is a …

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    Kate and Sophia talk dads, dads and more dads: Asgore, Rudy, Gerson, King, and even Mr. Cattenheimer. They break down the role of fatherhood in the story, and the ways dads fail across the story. (This is a sequel to Episode 3, on moms.)

    Topics: Cat yurts. Deltarune is a land of contrasts. Milves. More Pink talk. Deltarune dads are dead or distant. Asgore’s contrast with Undertale. Child murder. What the flowers represent. The growing seriousness of Kris’s plan. A novel new caller idea. Tenna as an Asgore parallel. A brief diversion on cats and the Cattenheimer family’s role, eh, sploinky? Twin Peaks. Rudy as the first lady…and a Rouxls parallel? Rudy and Asgore are the game’s premier yaoi. These guys raised a bunch of NERDS. People were really disappointed in Chapter 5? Asgore’s relatable unfortunately.

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  15. Episode 32: (Drag me down somewhere no one is supposed to go.)

    1 Std. 12 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 32

    Kate and Jackie reconvene for a follow-up on new advancements in the Chapter 5 weird route, and the complicated feelings playing it surfaces.Previous WR episode: Episode 11.Topics: Noelle’s agency. What’s wrong …

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    Kate and Jackie reconvene for a follow-up on new advancements in the Chapter 5 weird route, and the complicated feelings playing it surfaces.

    Previous WR episode: Episode 11.

    Topics: Noelle’s agency. What’s wrong with Hometown. Dess’s absence. Lore-character reconciliation. Can anyone escape? Looking for who to blame. What is the nature of the soul? You can’t even say “stop” like you used to. Carol’s place in all this. What it means to get stronger. Something else. ESRB T for Teen. How do we find a way to talk about the most intense and personal implications of this story?

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  16. Episode 31: THIS IS YOUR BODY. DO YOU ACCEPT IT?

    59 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 31

    Kate and Valerie reconvene for a Chapter 5 update on what Deltarune is saying about gender in what is the trans-est chapter yet. (This is a sequel to our Kris and Mettaton episodes.)Topics: Kris fans be like “I …

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    Kate and Valerie reconvene for a Chapter 5 update on what Deltarune is saying about gender in what is the trans-est chapter yet. (This is a sequel to our Kris and Mettaton episodes.)

    Topics: Kris fans be like “I love when they suffer,” the blue closet of subtext, Flowery did nothing wrong, more musing on what Ralsei represents, the Forgotten Man, MEW MEW MAGIC RETURNS!, Pink/Kris/Spamton parallels, soul and body, returning to closets again, a few rare notes about takes we don’t like, more on Kris and Noelle’s childhoods, Seth, some speculation about what Kris and the Knight actually want.

    Sources discussed:

    “The Girl”, The Knight, & Gender In Deltarune - An Analysis/Theory by Stuffed Alpaca

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  17. Episode 30: The Flower Man

    60 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 30

    Kate and Elsie kick off Season 2 with their first reactions to Chapter 5. Full spoilers ahead!Topics: Deltajune. Outfit gonermaker? We’re normal about Tasque Manager. Festival choices. Rudy will be fine, don’t …

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    Kate and Elsie kick off Season 2 with their first reactions to Chapter 5. Full spoilers ahead!

    Topics: Deltajune. Outfit gonermaker? We’re normal about Tasque Manager. Festival choices. Rudy will be fine, don’t worry about it. GASTER’S GOONS ATE ONION! Anime. Anime. Anime. The seven human flowers. Seth is just like me fr. Going to the Killing Myself Room. IMAGEFRIEND Phantasm Gaster Dess medias. Flowery and Ralsei. Device Theory real. What Ralsei knows, and what Ralsei wants. The best gameplay yet. Miku?!? Another late knight. What’s next?

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  18. Episode 29: A Parade, Perhaps?

    1 Std. 5 Min.Staffel 1 · Folge 29

    Substitute Games Month is brought to a shuddering halt by the arrival of Chapter 5. But, before the drought ends, Kate and Lucretia gab about ZERO PARADES: For Dead Spies, the controversial sort-of successor to …

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    Substitute Games Month is brought to a shuddering halt by the arrival of Chapter 5. But, before the drought ends, Kate and Lucretia gab about ZERO PARADES: For Dead Spies, the controversial sort-of successor to Disco Elysium.

    Topics: BREAKFAST_PROGRAM. Lucretia counts to 100 and I leave it in. Five Iron Frenzy is Asriel’s new theme. Speculation about Chapter 5. Apple Girlington. Shitty CEOs are everywhere. Working on indie projects that go south. The problem is that games are a commodity, dingus. Lovely Lady RPG. The end of history. Spies as unthinking weapons of fate. The passage of time in narrative games. Trepanning HOLOCENE. 0/100 Falks. Let a hundred Discos bloom. What’s your spy codename?

    Music from the ZERO PARADES: For Dead Spies Original Soundtrack by Fernando Cabrera.

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  19. Episode 28: The Estate of a Fairy

    1 Std. 28 Min.Staffel 1 · Folge 28

    It’s SUBSTITUTE GAMES MONTH, where SURVEY_PROGRAM talks about new games that aren’t Deltarune before Chapter 5 snipes us!Kate and Nillin kick off festivities by breaking down AP Thomson’s Titanium Court, modern …

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    It’s SUBSTITUTE GAMES MONTH, where SURVEY_PROGRAM talks about new games that aren’t Deltarune before Chapter 5 snipes us!

    Kate and Nillin kick off festivities by breaking down AP Thomson’s Titanium Court, modern fae stories, and metatexuality. Within, Kate grapples with the question: can you love a game to death?

    Topics: Fairies and ferries. The Mountain Goats. Games that don’t want you to play them. Inspirations from Shakespeare. Self-insert characters and gender. The legacy of mobile games. Kane Parsons’ Backrooms and The Oldest View as fairy stories. Cars aren’t real. Kinds of Kindness. Games made by musicians. The only choice a player really has. A Series of Unfortunate Events. Do you really need to see it all?

    Get Titanium Court and its soundtrack on Steam!

    References:

    Post Games interview with AP Thomson and bonus Patreon episode

    SCP-1733 – Season Opener

    Episode 25 – Millenial Art

    Episode 12 – Halloween Hack

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  20. Episode 27: Chapter 1, the March of the Dark King

    48 Min.Staffel 1 · Folge 27

    BQ rejoins the show after discussing playing Undertale but not Deltarune in Episode 19 to react to playing Chapter 1 for the first time. Reactions include gonermaker, religious ska, gender, Greenster, divorce …

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    BQ rejoins the show after discussing playing Undertale but not Deltarune in Episode 19 to react to playing Chapter 1 for the first time. Reactions include gonermaker, religious ska, gender, Greenster, divorce, school experience, the symbolism in the Dark World, and first encounters with every new character, and checking back in with Undertale favorites, immediately picking up on Kris-player dichotomy, and more.

    We’ll return again with Chapter 2 in the future!

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  21. Episode 26: The COOKING CHANNEL!

    1 Std. 4 Min.Staffel 1 · Folge 26

    Kate interviews Shadow of Roserade about Undertale: Cooking with Kindness, a new Undertale fangame about the green Kindness soul, with cooking minigame mechanics. Can you make the greatest restaurant the …

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    Kate interviews Shadow of Roserade about Undertale: Cooking with Kindness, a new Undertale fangame about the green Kindness soul, with cooking minigame mechanics. Can you make the greatest restaurant the Underground has ever seen?

    Topics: What makes a prequel or sequel worth it? Indie dev timelines. Fate and death. Luna!!!! Why climb the Mountain of Dying? Minigame design and conveyance. Kate is bad at slicing bread. Cozycore indie games. An RPG with no fighting at all. Why to not create different routes. Games set in single neighborhoods. The 10th anniversary stream. Game engine choice. How to write NPCs Toby-style. The surprise character!

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  22. Episode 25: The Pen Was Lying There for Them to Pick Up

    46 Min.

    Kate and Valerie discuss Undertale and Deltarune as art made by a millennial and ask “what defines millennial art?” For this, they define what a generation means as an analytic context, what experiences …

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    Kate and Valerie discuss Undertale and Deltarune as art made by a millennial and ask “what defines millennial art?” For this, they define what a generation means as an analytic context, what experiences millennials share that go into their art, and the indie game as the modern equivalent to the personal film.

    Topics: Other generations flippantly characterized by Friends, Tung Tung Tung Sahur, Buddenbrooks, sex, lies and videotape, and Woodstock, Steven Universe and Fionna and Cake as parallels, economic stagnation and the Great Recession, video games as the eighth art and Toby Fox as one of the first wave of game developers raised on games, The Amazing Digital Circus, and millennials breaking into film and deploying genre with I Saw the TV Glow, Sinners, and Nirvanna the Band the Show the Movie. We talk about our expectations for Deltarune’s ending and our own futures in the context of the generational approach to sincerity.

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  23. Episode 24: Your MOTHER on the other hand...! Whoo!

    1 Std. 3 Min.Staffel 1 · Folge 24

    Jackie tells Kate about playing Earthbound for the first time in 2026. They discuss the game’s influence on Undertale, Deltarune and the genre at large.We talk about coming-of-age stories and what looking …

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    Jackie tells Kate about playing Earthbound for the first time in 2026. They discuss the game’s influence on Undertale, Deltarune and the genre at large.

    We talk about coming-of-age stories and what looking through the eyes of children in our narratives tell us. Topics: RPG mechanics, grinding, the recent translation and tour controversies, Kate learns a distressing fact about Chick Corea and shares an embarrassing drug story, Weird America, what we learn about Ness indirectly (and how that compares to Frisk and Kris), influence on the genre, parallels between Noelle and Paula, and more. We share our predictions and fears about Chapter 5.

    Check out show musician Hywell’s “BLACK KNIFE (Vocal Breakcore Remix)”, now released!

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  24. Episode 23: PODISM 1999: A Podcast about YIIK

    Staffel 1 · Folge 23

    PODISM 1999 is back with our 23rd episode about YIIK: A Postmodern RPG! In our latest deep dive into the defining indie RPG of this era, Kate asks Lucretia the most important YIIK question yet: What kind of ska …

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    PODISM 1999 is back with our 23rd episode about YIIK: A Postmodern RPG! In our latest deep dive into the defining indie RPG of this era, Kate asks Lucretia the most important YIIK question yet: What kind of ska would Alex Eggleston listen to?

    Music: “Into the Mind” by Toby Fox and “Ska Battle” by Andrew Allanson.

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  25. Episode 22: [[Number 1 Rated Salesman1997]]

    1 Std. 4 Min.Staffel 1 · Folge 22

    Kate and Goomy finally discuss the spammy little mailman and ask YOU for help defining the difference between a blorbo and a tumblr sexyman. At the end, we get an EXCLUSIVE PREMIERE (56:40) of the all-new Black …

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    Kate and Goomy finally discuss the spammy little mailman and ask YOU for help defining the difference between a blorbo and a tumblr sexyman. At the end, we get an EXCLUSIVE PREMIERE (56:40) of the all-new Black Knife remix by Hywell.

    Topics: Slay the Spire 2. First playthrough reactions. Whither Jevil? Comparing Spamton to Harry du Bois. Pre-Tenna yaoi. Half-Life VR but the AI Is Self-Aware. It’s sad streamers don’t play Deltarune anymore. AO3 stats. The adult role models in Deltarune sure are bad, huh. Spamweed. Who was phone? Where the hell is Grillby?

    Check out BIG SHOT (1997 Remix) by Cristata + Hywell.

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  26. Episode 21: The Physical Challenge!!!

    51 Min.Staffel 1 · Folge 21

    Kate and Nillin make a pitch: Deltarune needs sports spinoffs.They talk the recent Winter Olympics, 2026 being the Year of Lancer, Raygun hitting ‘em with the dinosaur, Mario Sports RPGs from the developer of …

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    Kate and Nillin make a pitch: Deltarune needs sports spinoffs.

    They talk the recent Winter Olympics, 2026 being the Year of Lancer, Raygun hitting ‘em with the dinosaur, Mario Sports RPGs from the developer of Golden Sun, the dire state of AAA sports games, the collapse of the nerd-jock paradigm, the Glup Shitto Super Bowl, Mode 7, Return of the Obra Dinn, Mario Hoops 3 on 3, Kate comes out as a golfer, potential indie crossovers, and more.

    Check out referenced episodes:

    The UT/DR Baseball Draft

    Sans AUs

    Final Fantasy

    Check out Shadow of Roserade’s upcoming game UNDERTALE: Cooking with Kindness.

    Check out Toriel and Reimu at the Olympic Winter Games.

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  27. Episode 20: It's Kind of Like Dragon Blazers!

    1 Std. 19 Min.Staffel 1 · Folge 20

    Griever introduces Kate to the influences the Final Fantasy series has had on Deltarune, and the characters across the series that parallel the main cast. We discuss a variety of — Wait, there’s a DR …

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    Griever introduces Kate to the influences the Final Fantasy series has had on Deltarune, and the characters across the series that parallel the main cast. We discuss a variety of — Wait, there’s a DR. GAST???

    Topics: Swoon, contrasting Dragon Quest’s influence, how each game remixing the setting but keeping some common elements mirrors the Undertale-to-Deltarune transition, a love triangle, loss of player control, and more. Kate takes a brief detour into yelling about Knight identity contrarianism.

    Check out the slides that accompanied this episode, including BONUS SLIDES just for listeners!

    Final Fantasy Deltarune Collab

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  28. Episode 19: It's Not Actually "Finished", Yet

    1 Std. 3 Min.Staffel 1 · Folge 19

    Kate has one friend that’s played Undertale but not Deltarune, and another friend that’s played Deltarune but not Undertale. Let’s experiment on them for content.First, Kate and BQ talk about playing Undertale …

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    Kate has one friend that’s played Undertale but not Deltarune, and another friend that’s played Deltarune but not Undertale. Let’s experiment on them for content.

    First, Kate and BQ talk about playing Undertale, including sidetracks into the subtle difference between being a fujo and a faghag, gay and furry bars in Seattle, the pronunciation of Papyrus, the relative difficulty of both games, early Reddit sasquatch holes, Alphys as a great female character. Then, I ask them what they think happens in Deltarune.

    Then, Kate and Triumph talk Deltarune without Undertale. We talk a cavalcade of Sanses, community college pride, what makes a game funny, our reaction to the hiatuses, a shockingly complete reconstruction of Undertale’s narrative from cultural osmosis alone, and I admit I haven’t seen The Godfather.

    Check out BQ’s OC on Toyhouse and Big Daddy Marc.

    Check out baseball and Effectively Wild.

    Other episodes referenced:

    Episode 4 on AUs

    Episode 18 on baseball

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  29. Episode 18: One Baseball, Please!!!

    56 Min.Staffel 1 · Folge 18

    NowIOnlyWantATriumph joins Kate and Valerie for the first ever UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE BASEBALL DRAFT! Each of us put together a team of 19 Undertale and Deltarune characters to take the field, and it’s up to YOU …

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    NowIOnlyWantATriumph joins Kate and Valerie for the first ever UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE BASEBALL DRAFT! Each of us put together a team of 19 Undertale and Deltarune characters to take the field, and it’s up to YOU to decide who wins!

    Vote now on your phones! Or whatever!

    Sources referenced:

    Effectively Wild podcast

    Baseball Tenna fanart by tappleturks on Instagram

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    Cover art by NowIOnlyWantATriumph.

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  30. Episode 17: That Robot Was the Embodiment of a Lightner's Dream

    53 Min.Staffel 1 · Folge 17

    Is Mettaton the key to everything? No, but Kate and Valerie talk about him anyway. We talk parallels with Spamton and Tenna, the difference tonally between adults in Undertale and Deltarune, and Valerie blows …

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    Is Mettaton the key to everything? No, but Kate and Valerie talk about him anyway. We talk parallels with Spamton and Tenna, the difference tonally between adults in Undertale and Deltarune, and Valerie blows my mind by suggesting Mettaton and Catty are the same age.

    We take questions from our listeners on Discord about our expectations for the future and various goofy subjects, including Jersey Shore. Would you smooch a ghost?

    Sources cited:

    Prokopetz on the tonal difference between Undertale and Deltarune

    Episodes 6 (Kris and gender), 3 (the parents), and 16 (December)

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