Saison Philosophy, Clean Brewing & Mixed Fermentation Dynamics (Part 2 with Averie Swanson)

We're back with Part 2 of our interview with Master Cicerone & Keeping Together founder, Averie Swanson! In this episode, Richard and Averie get granular on recipe development, fermentation mechanics, and beer style philosophies.

They explore Averie’s renowned approach to brewing Saison, what it means for a mixed-culture specialist to approach "clean" beers, and the technical realities of managing Brettanomyces and Lactobacillus. Plus, they break down their recent collaboration brew and discuss fascinating biotransformation interactions—like how lactones influence hop aroma in mixed-fermentation environments.

Featured in this Episode:

• To learn more about the effect of lactones on biotransformation, download our Brewer's Guide to Yeast Flavour & Biotransformation.
• For advice on mixed fermentation, visit our Knowledge Base article, Mixed Fermentation and Sour Beer Advice.
• Check out our saison, sour, and clean beer strains available for purchase at escarpmentlabs.com