Taking Back Power: Stories about reclaiming control

In this week's episode, two storytellers reclaim their power—one by challenging a broken system, the other by confronting the ways trauma continues to shape her life.

Part 1: Kimberly Babiarz sets out to fight human trafficking, only to discover that one of the biggest obstacles is the lack of reliable data.

Part 2: After years of therapy, Denise Cai believes she's moved beyond her trauma—until her family notices patterns she can't yet see.

This story does include mentions of sexual assault and rape. In case you’d find them helpful, now or at any point in the future, we have some resources available on our website.

Kimberly Babiarz is Research Director of the Stanford Human Trafficking Data Lab. A founding member of the lab, she works on the development and evaluation of new technologies to support anti-trafficking interventions and survivor support, quantitative research on trafficking markets and the protective role of public policy, and several direct collaborations with frontline anti-trafficking agencies. She specializes in large scale quantitative studies to evaluate the impact of public programs and interventions on health and well-being. Babiarz has conducted primary research on labor and sex trafficking, as well as large scale studies on global health initiatives in China, India, Malaysia, and Brazil. Her work has also included studies on fertility and family planning programs, infant and maternal health, and the gender dynamics of global health.

Denise Cai, PhD, is an Associate Professor of Neuroscience at Mount Sinai, which is ironic since her last science class was high school biology. Her two biggest regrets are not trying out for the cheerleading team and not starting antidepressants sooner. Both helped shape her path toward understanding how our past experiences guide who we become. She studies how the brain organizes and integrates experiences so memories can inform future choices and how this process changes with trauma or aging. Denise co-developed open source Miniscopes (tiny head-mounted microscopes) that let researchers watch neurons interact in real time. Using these tools, her lab has shown that memory systems are not tidy photo albums. They are more like chaotic group chats that constantly link, relink, and reshape our identities. Denise is passionate about fostering curiosity, creativity, and community. She believes that real scientific breakthroughs arise when diverse perspectives are welcomed and empowered. She still suspects she would have made a great cheerleader.

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