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Join The New World's Matt Kelly and Matt d'Ancona plus occasional guests for weekly chat on politics and media with a side of cultural stuff. A podcast in the spirit of the award-winning New World newspaper - irreverent, witty, surprising, argumentative ... and annoying all the right people.
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Inside the Russell Brand trial with Lucy Reade, and a path to Europe
The Matts are joined by Lucy Reade, who watched the Russell Brand trial unfold at Southwark Crown Court. Lucy describes the day-to-day reality of the trial, her encounter with Brand’s father and what she …
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The Matts are joined by Lucy Reade, who watched the Russell Brand trial unfold at Southwark Crown Court. Lucy describes the day-to-day reality of the trial, her encounter with Brand’s father and what she believes the guilty verdict signifies. We also discuss modern-day misogyny and ask: could another Russell Brand carry out his appalling attacks on women today? You can read Lucy’s brilliant report on the trial and its outcome at The New World - for FREE! - today.
Also - in part two - as Andy Burnham prepares for next week’s EU-UK summit we discuss the shape of a successful campaign to put Britain back at the heart of Europe. Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
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The Two Matts Q&A: How did Russell Brand get away with it for so long?
The Matts answer listener questions in this their regular Sunday morning Q&A episode, including; How did Russell Brand get away with it for so long; is Trump’s hammering a disaster for foreign policy; where …
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The Matts answer listener questions in this their regular Sunday morning Q&A episode, including; How did Russell Brand get away with it for so long; is Trump’s hammering a disaster for foreign policy; where does my extra mortgage money go; why did Shabana Mahmood climb down; are dictionaries taking the piss (idiom/: colloquial expression meaning to be mocking or unfair); and what’s your top 3 favourite John Lewis Xmas ads? Enjoy!
Produced by Ruby Mitchell
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BUMPER EDITION: Trump's disaster and Sophia Smith Galer on How To Kill A Language
It's a special edition for you this Thursday as the Matts analyse the incredible rout of the Republicans in the US mid-term elections. PLUS the author of one of our favourite books of the year, Sophia Smith …
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It's a special edition for you this Thursday as the Matts analyse the incredible rout of the Republicans in the US mid-term elections. PLUS the author of one of our favourite books of the year, Sophia Smith Galer, discusses the extraordinary impact language has in our communities, why so many are at risk of extinction, and what we can/should do about it. It's fascinating stuff. Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
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Laura Kuenssberg: Pay Attention... they're wrong about the BBC
BBC political presenter Laura Kuenssberg joins the Matts to discuss her new book Pay Attention (out on Thursday). In a fascinating and wide-ranging discussion Laura defends the BBC against charges of declining …
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BBC political presenter Laura Kuenssberg joins the Matts to discuss her new book Pay Attention (out on Thursday). In a fascinating and wide-ranging discussion Laura defends the BBC against charges of declining influence and being guilty of creating a false equivalence in its reporting. She addresses violence in politics, Nigel Farage's weaknesses, Jeremy Corbyn's role in demonising the media, how the nation became “unrecognisable" after the Brexit referendum... and how Andy Burnham has got the strongest behind-the-scenes team in politics for a long time. Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
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The Two Matts Q&A: Iz it okay to be excited about Europe?
The Matts answer listener questions in this, their regular Sunday morning Q&A episode including: is welfare out of control? Is Andy Burnham really setting us up for a quick return to Europe? Has the Israeli …
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The Matts answer listener questions in this, their regular Sunday morning Q&A episode including: is welfare out of control? Is Andy Burnham really setting us up for a quick return to Europe? Has the Israeli election improved chances of a two-state solution? Will Donald Trump get a shellacking in this week's US midterm elections? Are we all wearing poppies too soon? And is Ali G a man out of time? Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
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Two very different takes on what the Budget adds up to!
The Matts argue their case for why the Budget was either a) a dismal failure to seize an opportunity for radical change in Britain or b) breathing space for a government with bigger swings to come. And they …
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The Matts argue their case for why the Budget was either a) a dismal failure to seize an opportunity for radical change in Britain or b) breathing space for a government with bigger swings to come. And they examine Andy Burnham's stunning proposal to re-examine freedom of movement. What does it all add up to? Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
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The Two Matts Q&A: Is John Healey's big day going to be a nothingburger?
The Matts answer listeners' questions in this, their regular Sunday morning Q&A episode, including: should John Healey raise capital gains tax in the Budget? Why are the Lib Dems plotting against Ed Davey? Why …
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The Matts answer listeners' questions in this, their regular Sunday morning Q&A episode, including: should John Healey raise capital gains tax in the Budget? Why are the Lib Dems plotting against Ed Davey? Why did BBC Three and Radio 4 Extra exist in the first place? Should we stop using the phrase 'postcode lottery'? What does artificial intelligence mean for energy and water consumption? And what minor but seriously antisocial behaviour would we like to see banned? Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
Get a FREE SIGNED COPY of Alastair Campbell's new book when you subscribe to The New World. Go to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/subscribe/
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What do the riots in France really signal?
The Matts consider the violent protests sweeping the continent and try to understand where it is coming from and what it signifies. Could they spread here? What can progressive governments do to stop them? Is …
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The Matts consider the violent protests sweeping the continent and try to understand where it is coming from and what it signifies. Could they spread here? What can progressive governments do to stop them? Is Andy Burnham's approach any different to Emmanuel Macron’s?
Tickets are still available for Alastair Campbell and Mishal Hussain at London's Cadogan Hall on October 22 here
Produced by Matt Withers
Get a FREE SIGNED COPY of Alastair Campbell's new book when you subscribe to The New World. Go to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/subscribe/
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The Two Matts Q&A: Palestine Action lunacy and made up words
The Matts answer listener questions in this, their regular Sunday morning Q&A episode, including: is Marie Le Pen bad news for the UK? Why is Sally Rooney not selling books here any more? Will standing shoulder …
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The Matts answer listener questions in this, their regular Sunday morning Q&A episode, including: is Marie Le Pen bad news for the UK? Why is Sally Rooney not selling books here any more? Will standing shoulder to shoulder with Ukraine actually help? Should Elon Musk be allowed such power? Does Russian interference in the Brexit vote help the argument to join the EU? And what new word, in the spirit of Alastair Campbell's Persevilience, would the Matts invent? Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
Get a FREE SIGNED COPY of Alastair Campbell's new book when you subscribe to The New World. Go to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/subscribe/
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Putin's the big winner in Trump's betrayal
The Matts discuss the developments in Ukraine in the past week and Donald Trump's oil deal with Vladimir Putin. Connected much? They think so. It adds up to a ghastly - but all too predictable - betrayal of …
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The Matts discuss the developments in Ukraine in the past week and Donald Trump's oil deal with Vladimir Putin. Connected much? They think so. It adds up to a ghastly - but all too predictable - betrayal of Ukraine at its hour of deepest need. Also - the potential spectacle of a live streamed execution in America. What does that tell us about the Trump mindset.. and what's become of our species in general?
Produced by Matt Withers
Get a FREE SIGNED COPY of Alastair Campbell's new book when you subscribe to The New World. Go to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/subscribe/
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The Two Matts Q&A: The decline of Zack and best ever speeches
The Matts answer listener questions in this, their regular Sunday morning Q&A session, including: why is Zack Polanski’s popularity plummeting? How bad are the riots in France? Who would you put in the cabinet? …
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The Matts answer listener questions in this, their regular Sunday morning Q&A session, including: why is Zack Polanski’s popularity plummeting? How bad are the riots in France? Who would you put in the cabinet? Is Andy Burnham courageous or cowardly on Europe? What's the best political speech in history? And what movie did you once think was amazing but makes you cringe now? Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
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A disaster for the Green Party
The Matts discuss the impact of the Green Party resolution that “Zionism Is Racism”. Will Zack Polanski survive as leader? What does it mean for Jews living in the UK? What does it mean for the party's supposed …
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The Matts discuss the impact of the Green Party resolution that “Zionism Is Racism”. Will Zack Polanski survive as leader? What does it mean for Jews living in the UK? What does it mean for the party's supposed core eco agenda? Also this week: what's the story behind Kemi Badenoch's conference speech? What does success look like for her? It's a lively conversation. Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
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The Two Matts Q&A: On The New World at 500 and the Burnham bounce
The Matts answer your questions in this, their regular Sunday morning Q&A episode. Including: what should you do with your collection of New European/New World magazines? What will dominate the next 500 issues? …
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The Matts answer your questions in this, their regular Sunday morning Q&A episode. Including: what should you do with your collection of New European/New World magazines? What will dominate the next 500 issues? Is Andy Burnham the real deal? Has football sold its soul? Should we proscribe Patriot Platform? And which beloved movies flopped at the box office? Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
OFFER: To celebrate our 500th edition, get The New World for just £1 for your first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts/
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48 hours after THAT speech… how many marks out of 10?
The Matts give a considered analysis of Andy Burnham’s conference speech. So much to talk about and so many obvious strong points - but where will the testing moments come from? They go deep into the policies …
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The Matts give a considered analysis of Andy Burnham’s conference speech. So much to talk about and so many obvious strong points - but where will the testing moments come from? They go deep into the policies he announced and try to put together the evidence for a big plan - and rate his chances of pulling it off. Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
OFFER: To celebrate our 500th edition, get The New World for just £1 for your first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts/
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The Two Matts Q&A: Ketamine epidemic and trouble in Narnia
The Matts answer listeners' questions in their regular Sunday morning edition, including: How does Andy Burnham take Britain into the EU? Is ketamine the new heroin? Why are CS Lewis fans suddenly furious? What …
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The Matts answer listeners' questions in their regular Sunday morning edition, including: How does Andy Burnham take Britain into the EU? Is ketamine the new heroin? Why are CS Lewis fans suddenly furious? What does podcasting mean for the future of media? And is Trump right about the Chagos deal? Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
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A lot of Andy Burnham and a bit of Hitler
The Matts discuss Andy Burnham's speech to the United Nations - and what it tells us about both the opportunities and challenges facing the new PM and Britain as we seek to rediscover our place in the world 10 …
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The Matts discuss Andy Burnham's speech to the United Nations - and what it tells us about both the opportunities and challenges facing the new PM and Britain as we seek to rediscover our place in the world 10 years after Brexit.
In part two the Matts discuss the waning effect of Adolf Hitler on the global conscience and what it means in concrete terms for all our futures. Enjoy!
PS: Use code AlastairLIVE to get £10 off tickets to The New World event on October 22 at London's Cadogan Hall with Alastair Campbell and Mishal Husain. Tickets on sale now at cadoganhall.com.
Produced by Matt Withers
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The Two Matts Q&A: What is it crypto billionaires love so much about Nigel Farage?
The Matts answer listener questions, including: Why do crypto billionaires fall over themselves to give Nigel Farage money? Does Canada joining the EU help or hinder the UK’s return? Why isn’t the UN dealing …
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The Matts answer listener questions, including: Why do crypto billionaires fall over themselves to give Nigel Farage money? Does Canada joining the EU help or hinder the UK’s return? Why isn’t the UN dealing with AI? Is the rise of the far right in Germany something to worry about? And isn’t Ed Sheeran basically right? Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
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Is AI really coming to eat us all... and how do we stop it?
The Matts open with a heartfelt tribute to the late, great Bonnie Greer, who died this week. In the first half they discuss the extraordinary pace of developments and concern around AI, explain exactly what has …
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The Matts open with a heartfelt tribute to the late, great Bonnie Greer, who died this week. In the first half they discuss the extraordinary pace of developments and concern around AI, explain exactly what has happened and why everyone really should be very worried indeed.
In part two, they reject the outright demonisation of the citizens of Piddington, the small Oxfordshire village which held a referendum declaring independence from the UK in the face of an influx of asylum seekers to a barracks nearby.
Finally - your discount code for the Alastair Campbell meets Mishal Husain event at Cadogan Hall, London, on October 22 is ALASTAIRLIVE. Tickets on sale now at cadoganhall.com.
Produced by Matt Withers
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The Two Matts Q&A: Can’t we have welfare AND defence?
The Matts answer listener questions including: why can’t we have decent welfare and a strong defence? Was Reform stung or entrapped? Why is Liz Truss still costing us so much money? Is AI really going to kill …
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The Matts answer listener questions including: why can’t we have decent welfare and a strong defence? Was Reform stung or entrapped? Why is Liz Truss still costing us so much money? Is AI really going to kill me? And why is everyone losing their minds over the Bayeux Tapestry? Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
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An historic shift in UK foreign policy towards Israel. Now what?
As Ed Miliband announces sanctions against illegal settlements in the West Bank, the Matts take a holistic look at what the government hopes to achieve and at what cost. Does this make British Jews less safe? …
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As Ed Miliband announces sanctions against illegal settlements in the West Bank, the Matts take a holistic look at what the government hopes to achieve and at what cost. Does this make British Jews less safe? Are challenges to Miliband’s level of Jewishness fair? And will this action make any difference to the chances of a two-state solution?
Also - 25 years after 9/11, the Matts discuss Matt d’Ancona’s epic piece commemorating the attack and its ever-unfolding consequences. And they welcome the great Emily Maitlis to The New World family. Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
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The Two Matts Q&A: Is Farage finished? And where are all the women?
The Matts answer listener questions in this, their regular Sunday morning question and answer edition. Including; is Farage finished; what tax pledge should Burnham break; is Michael Gove stupid; how should we …
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The Matts answer listener questions in this, their regular Sunday morning question and answer edition. Including; is Farage finished; what tax pledge should Burnham break; is Michael Gove stupid; how should we think about China; apart from Dante, Giotto, Thomas Aquinas, Chaucer and the Bayeux Tapesty, what’s the Middle Ages ever done for us; maintaining a dignified silence in the face of Will Self criticism; and which women authors do you admire?
Produced by Ruby Mitchell
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REDS - the best political book of the year? With Paul Mason
The Matts are joined by The New World contributing editor Paul Mason to discuss his blockbuster book Reds: A Global History Of Communism. We cover a lot of ground - from pre-historic society through the French …
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The Matts are joined by The New World contributing editor Paul Mason to discuss his blockbuster book Reds: A Global History Of Communism. We cover a lot of ground - from pre-historic society through the French Revolution to the USSR and finally modern day China, where the entire definition and history of Communism is being rewritten as we speak. Paul’s book has been receiving glowing reviews from outlets as diverse as the Daily Telegraph and The New World - find out why in this illuminating conversation.
And if you aren’t already a subscriber to The New World, you can get a free signed copy of Reds when you sign up at thenewworld.co.uk/2matts. Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
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The Two Matts Q&A: Harry and Meghan, Dolly Parton… and blockbuster books
The Matts tackle listener questions in their regular Sunday morning Q&A edition, including: Is there a resurgence of homophobia? Should Harry and Meghan be welcomed back to the UK? Are we heartbroken over Dolly …
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The Matts tackle listener questions in their regular Sunday morning Q&A edition, including: Is there a resurgence of homophobia? Should Harry and Meghan be welcomed back to the UK? Are we heartbroken over Dolly Parton? What does the Meta mega settlement mean? Are online comments a good thing? And what should we be reading next? Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
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Andy Burnham’s first big test is around the corner
The Matts think about Andy Burnham’s first month (and a bit) in Downing Street and anticipate a period of difficulty ahead for a PM whose inclination may be to keep people happy in an age when dramatic change …
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The Matts think about Andy Burnham’s first month (and a bit) in Downing Street and anticipate a period of difficulty ahead for a PM whose inclination may be to keep people happy in an age when dramatic change is required. In the second half, what does the release of Jason Arday’s autobiography tell us about attitudes towards truth in publishing?
Produced by Matt Withers
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The Two Matts Q&A: is the Kelly Plan dead? And TURN OFF YOUR BLOODY SPEAKER PHONE!
The Matts answer listener questions including: Is the Kelly Plan for an early election a non-starter? Is Richard Tice a secret Labour asset? How should we respond to the huge numbers of suicides in the UK each …
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The Matts answer listener questions including: Is the Kelly Plan for an early election a non-starter? Is Richard Tice a secret Labour asset? How should we respond to the huge numbers of suicides in the UK each year? And is Wetherspoons right to ban speaker phones? Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
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2026: the year the climate crisis came home
The Matts discuss the government’s response to the severe heat this summer in England and Wales (sorry Scotland!)… and whether this year will be a turning point in the public’s perception of urgency around the …
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The Matts discuss the government’s response to the severe heat this summer in England and Wales (sorry Scotland!)… and whether this year will be a turning point in the public’s perception of urgency around the changing climate. But first, they deal with the charge they were “lily-livered” in their response to the tragic death of Jason Arday.
Produced by Matt Withers
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The Two Matts Q&A: On the death of Jason Arday
The Matts answer listener questions in their regular Sunday morning episode, including the tragic death of Jason Arday, whether Nigel Farage has lost his touch, what Andy Burnham is trying to do on social media …
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The Matts answer listener questions in their regular Sunday morning episode, including the tragic death of Jason Arday, whether Nigel Farage has lost his touch, what Andy Burnham is trying to do on social media and whether the solar eclipse was all it was cracked up to be.
Produced by Matt Withers
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Andy Burnham vs Geoffrey Howe... and a side order of Jason Arday
The Matts remember an astonishing letter of 45 years ago which provides stark contrast with Andy Burnham’s politics of place. Also - how the Jason Arday saga has shamed not just one academic but an entire …
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The Matts remember an astonishing letter of 45 years ago which provides stark contrast with Andy Burnham’s politics of place. Also - how the Jason Arday saga has shamed not just one academic but an entire university… and much of the liberal establishment whose instinctive rush to defend Arday is indicative of a deeper problem. Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
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The Two Matts Q&A: Is Andy Burnham a hot dad, and eff off Gianni Infantino
The Matts answer listeners' questions including: when will politicians actually face up to the climate crisis? Is Andy Burnham being creepy on social media? Has Zack Polanski’s bubble burst? Where would you …
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The Matts answer listeners' questions including: when will politicians actually face up to the climate crisis? Is Andy Burnham being creepy on social media? Has Zack Polanski’s bubble burst? Where would you start when fixing social care? Is The Odyssey really all that? And should Gianni Infantino be allowed to sell the World Cup? Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
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Burnham’s flying start... but is he also fibbing?
The Matts appreciate the velocity of action in Andy Burnham’s first days as PM. And the big intention to fix social care is of enormous consequence. But it also makes them wonder if Burnham is being completely …
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The Matts appreciate the velocity of action in Andy Burnham’s first days as PM. And the big intention to fix social care is of enormous consequence. But it also makes them wonder if Burnham is being completely open about the possibility of an early election. Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
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