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The Underwater Podcast

NeuWildlife Photography, Brand Marketing, and Shooting Billie Eilish’s Album Cover with William Drumm03.11.2026 · 1 Std. 11 Min.
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A deep dive in to underwater portrait photography & cinematography with host Brett Stanley, featuring interviews with underwater photographers, cinematographers, models, freedivers, and anyone involved in the production of these amazing images.

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  1. Wildlife Photography, Brand Marketing, and Shooting Billie Eilish’s Album Cover with William Drumm

    1 Std. 11 Min.Staffel 5 · Folge 65

    Send us Fan MailWilliam Drumm: Wildlife Photography, Brand Marketing, and Shooting Billie Eilish’s Album CoverIn this episode of the Underwater Podcast, host Brett Stanley talks with underwater photographer …

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    William Drumm: Wildlife Photography, Brand Marketing, and Shooting Billie Eilish’s Album Cover

    In this episode of the Underwater Podcast, host Brett Stanley talks with underwater photographer, filmmaker, and content creator William Drumm about building a career between wildlife photography and brand marketing, and the story behind directing Billie Eilish’s Hit Me Hard and Soft album cover shoot. William shares how a childhood obsession with holding his breath turned into a marine biology degree, a stint as a cell biologist in Seattle, and a string of press trips that convinced him to go all in on photography. They discuss working in Monterey Bay, shooting for PBS’s Big Pacific documentary, and moving from stills into video as the licensing math changed underneath him. William walks through how a set of whale images from Tonga led to Billie Eilish’s team reaching out, what it took to recreate the open ocean inside a Hollywood studio tank, and how that one shoot reshaped his business toward brand marketing through Drumm Media. They close out talking about AI’s growing presence in wildlife and commercial photography, and what it means for authentic work going forward.

    00:00 Meet William Drumm
    00:58 Hot Tub Breath Holds
    01:36 Jellyfish Bucket in Australia
    02:47 Scuba Certified at Twelve
    04:51 Discounted Gear and First Strobe Shot
    06:48 Marine Biology and a Day Job in Science
    08:36 First Press Trips: Puffins and Polar Bears
    10:58 Carhartt Sponsorship and Early Paydays
    13:36 Lighthouse Keeper on Puffin Island
    16:48 Choosing Photography Over Science
    18:14 Monterey Bay and Shooting Big Pacific
    20:36 Shift from Stills to Video
    23:36 Stock Footage and Licensing
    25:14 Moving Back to Denver, Pivoting Into Brand Marketing
    30:58 How Billie Eilish’s Team Found Him
    32:47 Recreating the Ocean in a Studio Tank
    36:14 Directing a Hollywood Crew
    37:36 The Flooded Monitor Housing
    41:58 Working With Billie in the Water
    45:21 The Album’s Most Challenging Shot
    48:36 Instagram Growth After the Shoot
    51:36 Founding Drumm Media
    55:14 Social Media, SEO, and AI Search
    1:02:47 The Ethics of AI Images and Wildlife
    1:06:00 Underwater Portraiture as Art
    1:07:36 Influences and Closing Thanks

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  2. Freediving, Cave Exploration, and Protecting Florida’s Springs with David Cobiella

    1 Std. 11 Min.Staffel 4 · Folge 63

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #63, host Brett Stanley talks with freedive instructor and Florida Springs conservationist David Cobiella about learning comfort and efficiency underwater, comparing freediving and …

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    In episode #63, host Brett Stanley talks with freedive instructor and Florida Springs conservationist David Cobiella about learning comfort and efficiency underwater, comparing freediving and scuba, and protecting the Florida Springs. David shares how he grew up scuba diving, later discovered freediving in the springs, and co-founded a nonprofit to organize underwater cleanups that led him to teaching and guiding.

    They discuss spring access and conditions, the underground cave and river systems, and why David pursued cave-diving certification while dialing back risk. David explains coaching beginners through fear, buoyancy, and safety, including recognizing and responding to shallow-water blackout, and outlines major threats to springs (reduced flow from water extraction and nutrient pollution fueling algae) plus strategies like reforming water-management governance and buying land to prevent overdevelopment.

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  3. Cenotes & The Art of Portrait Photography with Fran Reina

    1 Std. 9 Min.Staffel 4 · Folge 62

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #62 host Brett Stanley chats with with Italian photographer Fran Reina, who is now based in Mexico. They talk about her love of water travel and how she transitioned from a dive guide …

  4. The Challenges of Shooting Underwater Polaroids with Erick Regnard

    56 Min.Staffel 4 · Folge 61

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #61 host Brett Stanley chats with surf and underwater photographer Erick RegnardErick, along with his brother Ian, created an underwater housing for a 5x4 large format polaroid camera …

  5. Unlocking the Mysteries of Underwater Fine Art Photography with Lexi Lane

    58 Min.Staffel 4 · Folge 60

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #60 host Brett Stanley chats with underwater Fine Art photographer Lexi Laine.Lexi’s work is beautiful and painterly, and mostly shot in the clear waters of the ocean, which adds a …

  6. Diving Into Darkness: The Art and Challenges of Underwater Filmmaking with Nays Baghai

    1 Std. 1 Min.Staffel 3 · Folge 59

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #59 host Brett Stanley chats with Australian director Nays Baghai about his career in underwater filmmaking.They talk about his new documentary Diving in to the Darkness, and what it …

  7. Wildlife Cinematographer Christina Karliczek Skoglund

    1 Std. 17 Min.Staffel 4 · Folge 58

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #58 host Brett Stanley chats with Christina Karliczek Skoglund, an underwater wildlife and feature film cinematographer.Christina grew up on the coast of Sweden, dreaming of …

  8. Portrait Photographer Alison Bounce

    52 Min.Staffel 3 · Folge 57

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #57 host Brett Stanley chats with French underwater portrait photographer Alison Bounce.Growing up far from the ocean in the middle of France, Alison had a life long fear of water …

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    In episode #57 host Brett Stanley chats with French underwater portrait photographer Alison Bounce.

    Growing up far from the ocean in the middle of France, Alison had a life long fear of water which she hoped to overcome by moving to the coastal city of Nice and starting her love affair with underwater photography.

    Since then she’s built her business around her gorgeous prints, working on removing the colour blue from her palette, and literally writing the book on underwater portraiture.

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    In this episode, acclaimed underwater photographer Alison Bounce shares her remarkable journey in the world of aquatic imagery. The conversation delves into her experiences, ranging from the technical aspects of underwater photography to the emotional depth encountered during shoots.

    Alison recounts a perilous incident during a shoot in Australia where she found herself in a life-threatening situation. Her poignant description of the harrowing moment, intertwined with the humorous realization that her client inadvertently became her savior, adds a layer of suspense and genuine human connection.

    The episode takes an emotional turn as Alison narrates a transformative shoot with Magali, a cancer survivor. Magali's strength and vulnerability shine through as Alison captures her underwater, showcasing the therapeutic power of photography in overcoming life's challenges. The subsequent exhibition featuring these poignant images becomes a testament to the resilience of the human spirit.

    Listeners are offered a glimpse into the intricacies of Alison's artistic process, from handling technical equipment to the challenges of selecting the perfect image to convey a message. The conversation also touches on Alison's foray into videography, exploring the potential to expand her business and provide clients with a more immersive experience.

    Alison concludes by sharing her upcoming project—an exhibition intertwining mythology, art, and ecology, aimed at raising awareness about the critical state of the environment. This fusion of visual storytelling and advocacy reflects Alison's commitment to using her art to inspire change.

    Tune in to this episode for a captivating exploration of the artistry, challenges, and profound human connections within the realm of underwater photography. Alison's anecdotes serve as a powerful reminder of the impact visual storytelling can have on both the artist and the subjects immortalized beneath the waves.

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  9. Gates Housing's President John Ellerbrock

    57 Min.Staffel 3 · Folge 56

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #56 host Brett Stanley chats with John Ellerbrock - owner and President of Gates Underwater Housings. Gates have been a staple in the world of underwater imaging since the late 60’s …

  10. Camera Operator & Photographer Jenny Baumert

    1 Std. 3 Min.Staffel 3 · Folge 55

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #55 host Brett Stanley chats with Underwater Camera Operator and Photographer Jenny Baumert. Jenny fell in love with underwater photography at the Brooks Institute in California, but …

  11. Freedive Photographer Tony Myshlyaev

    1 Std. 3 Min.Staffel 3 · Folge 54

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #54 host Brett Stanley chats with freedive photographer Tony Myshlyaev, better known as Tones Of Blue.They talk about his journey from learning to scuba dive in Vancouver, Canada, to …

  12. Performer & Filmmaker Julie Gautier

    55 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 53

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #53 host Brett Stanley chats with freedive champion, film maker, and underwater performer Julie Gautier.Julie’s films are a beautifully visual insight into not just the mind of a …

  13. Photographer Adam Attoun

    50 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 52

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #52 host Brett Stanley chats with landscape photographer turned underwater photographer Adam Attoun.Based in Reading California, Adam talks about his background in landscape …

  14. Cinematographer Jacques Ballard

    52 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 51

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #51 host Brett Stanley chats with underwater cinematographer Jacques Ballard about his work on the feature film The Deep House. We discuss how he shot the underwater thriller, what …

  15. Imaging Engineer Pawel Achtel

    42 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 50

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #50 host Brett Stanley chats with the man who built the Underwater 3D Cameras for the new Avatar films, Pawel Achtel.Pawel is an engineer with a passion for the underwater world, and …

  16. NFTs & The Oceaverse - Ian Takahashi

    58 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 49

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #49 host Brett Stanley chats with underwater cinematographer and co-founder of The Oceaverse, Ian Takahashi.NFT’s have become a big industry over the last couple of years and they can …

  17. Tom Campbell - Wildlife Cinematographer

    1 Std. 16 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 48

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #48 host Brett Stanley chats with underwater photographer and High Definition Video Pioneer Tom Campbell.They chat about how Tom got started in wildlife photography, his move to …

  18. Sean Ruggeri - Cinematographer

    1 Std.Staffel 2 · Folge 47

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #47 host Brett Stanley chats with cinematographer Sean Ruggeri who’s work with Red Cameras and Gates Housings has really taken him to some amazing places.They chat about how he worked …

  19. Photographer & Director Scott Rhea

    51 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 46

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #46 host Brett Stanley chats with photographer and director Scott Rhea. Scott’s career ranges from shooting Advertising and lifestyle images, to directing music video and commercials …

  20. Photographer Harry Fayt

    57 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 45

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #45 host Brett Stanley chats with Belgian underwater photographer Harry Fayt.Harry’s work is truly beautiful, with the worlds and concepts he creates below the surface, and his …

  21. Photographer Jamie Johnson (Birdee)

    51 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 44

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #44 host Brett Stanley chats with Jamie Johnson, an underwater photographer better known by her artist name of Birdee. Jamie’s work has a rawness to it, and she captures the female …

  22. Safety Diver Hal Wells

    53 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 43

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #43 host Brett Stanley chats with Hal Wells, safety diver and co-owner of Hollywood Divers. Hal shares with us his experiences working on film sets, how he plans for underwater …

  23. Remembering Surf & Fine Art Photographer Lucas Murnaghan

    1 Std. 21 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 42

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #42, host Brett Stanley is joined by Antonio Lennert, life & business partner to Surf and Fine Art Photographer Lucas Murnaghan who tragically died in March this year of a rare …

  24. Artist Barbara Cole - Underwater Fine Art Photography, Tintype images & Wet Collodion process

    50 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 41

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #41, host Brett Stanley chats with experimental photographer Barbara Cole.Barbara’s underwater work spans over 20 years and her approach to photography is akin to alchemy, where she …

  25. Performer Claire Friesen

    47 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 40

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #40, host Brett Stanley chats with underwater performer and actor Claire Friesen. Claire grew up fascinated with water, and solidified her love it with it when she discovered …

  26. Director of Photography Zac Macaulay

    48 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 39

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #39, host Brett Stanley chats with underwater director of photography Zac Macaulay.Zac’s career has taken him from assisting in his younger days to a sort after stills photographer …

  27. Professional Mermaid Linden Wolbert

    53 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 38

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #38, host Brett Stanley chats with Linden Wolbert. Linden is a professional mermaid who’s pioneered the world of mermaiding, from creating her own tail with a special effects artist …

  28. Fine Art Photographer Meaghan Ogilvie

    46 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 37

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #37, host Brett Stanley chats with Canadian photographer Meaghan Ogilvie. Meaghan is an underwater fine art photographer, and whilst based in Toronto she travels quite extensively and …

  29. Siren Actor Eline Powell

    1 Std. 2 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 36

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #36, host Brett Stanley chats with actor Eline Powell about her work as a mermaid on the now sadly cancelled show Siren. They talk about her training for the part, the intense days …

  30. Dive Photographer Alex Dawson

    52 Min.Staffel 2 · Folge 35

    Send us Fan MailIn episode #35, host Brett Stanley chats with dive photographer Alex Dawson.Alex talks about his experiences diving in his homeland of Sweden, learning to cave dive in old mines, and how he …

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