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The Vergecast

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The Vergecast is the flagship daily podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And Monday through Thursday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives – and which ones you should bring into yours. 

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  1. The iPhone Duo should have been an iPad

    1 Std. 50 Min.

    We gave the iPhone Duo a 7 /10. But that wasn’t always the score we planned, and it might not be the right score forever. Such are the challenges of reviewing — and assessing — a big, new idea about the most …

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    We gave the iPhone Duo a 7 /10. But that wasn’t always the score we planned, and it might not be the right score forever. Such are the challenges of reviewing — and assessing — a big, new idea about the most popular smartphone in history.

    On this episode of The Vergecast, David and Nilay debate whether the Duo deserved the score it got, and try to work through how this device might change over time.

    After that, the hosts talk about the huge PHP cybersecurity flaw that rocked the web this week, the ongoing increase in AI shopping, an impending reboot inside of Netflix, and some very confusing Gemini news. Also, Brendan Carr is a Dummy.


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    0:00 No Sevens Pact

    01:03 Show Agenda Setup

    01:46 Duo Score Debate

    03:08 App Optimization Phases

    07:47 Two Thousand Dollar Problem

    10:44 iPad Not iPhone

    14:41 Outer Screen Compromises

    18:04 Developer Badges Future

    20:34 Early Adopter Reality

    30:19 Handoff eSIM Limitations

    34:49 PHP Shell Chaos

    36:17 PHP Under the Hood

    37:46 AI Finds the Exploit

    40:46 Disclosure Panic Fallout

    42:44 Patch Now or Go Dark

    45:58 Autonomous Defense Arms Race

    48:42 Agents Break the Web

    53:04 Muse Adoption Shopping Stats

    54:11 Bots Buying Movie Tickets

    01:01:05 Instagram Deepfake Crisis

    01:07:30 Brendan Carr is a Dummy

    01:10:06 FCC Threatens Poll Coverage

    01:17:44 FCC Free Speech Alarm

    01:20:20 The Lightning Round

    01:20:49 Arc Browser Shutdown

    01:23:12 AI Browsers Future

    01:27:14 Meta Terms Backlash

    01:34:04 Netflix Identity Crisis

    01:43:16 Gemini Confusion Car

    01:49:12 Wrap Up And Awards


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  2. Why Tesla needs its cars to fly

    37 Min.

    Tesla recently showed off a new version of its Roadster. Well, a new version of its old version of the Roadster, anyway. But this one flies! The Verge's Andy Hawkins joins the show to explain the last decade of …

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    Tesla recently showed off a new version of its Roadster. Well, a new version of its old version of the Roadster, anyway. But this one flies! The Verge's Andy Hawkins joins the show to explain the last decade of the Roadster saga, make sense of the flying and kickflipping new vehicle, and cast out into the future of Tesla's cars for humans. If there even is one.


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  3. How we really feel about the iPhone Duo | Livestream

    1 Std. 6 Min.

    iPhone Duo reviews are out today and... it's complicated. David Pierce, Nilay Patel and senior smart phone reviewer Allison Johnson talk through The Verge's review and answer your questions LIVE. Further …

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    iPhone Duo reviews are out today and... it's complicated. David Pierce, Nilay Patel and senior smart phone reviewer Allison Johnson talk through The Verge's review and answer your questions LIVE.


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  4. AI is dividing the math world in two

    44 Min.

    Over the last several months, the AI industry has set its sights on some of the problems that have stymied mathematicians for years. In some cases, AI models have made huge progress — though exactly how much …

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    Over the last several months, the AI industry has set its sights on some of the problems that have stymied mathematicians for years. In some cases, AI models have made huge progress — though exactly how much isn't always obvious. The Verge's Robert Hart explains what OpenAI and others have actually accomplished, the disastrously bad ways the companies have interacted with researchers, and whether there's a future left for human mathematics.

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  5. Why your favorite creator is building an app

    42 Min.

    Creator life involves using a lot of software. Bad software. Stephen Robles is one of the creators who decided to build something better, for himself and for his community. He tells David how he thinks about …

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    Creator life involves using a lot of software. Bad software. Stephen Robles is one of the creators who decided to build something better, for himself and for his community. He tells David how he thinks about his responsibility as a developer, how he makes apps, and how AI is changing the way he builds things for his audience.


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  6. Apple's HomeView has an app problem

    1 Std. 37 Min.

    Well, it's been a couple of days, and David and Nilay have some more information — and a bunch of new questions — about the Apple HomeView. They also talk about the latest Gemini model, and whether building the …

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    Well, it's been a couple of days, and David and Nilay have some more information — and a bunch of new questions — about the Apple HomeView. They also talk about the latest Gemini model, and whether building the best model matters if you can't build the best products around them. They then debate the merits of returning to X, why none of the supposed Twitter replacements worked, the latest in Brendan Carr nonsense, and more.


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    0:00 CarPlay Banter
    01:36 HomeView App Confusion
    03:40 CarPlay as Home OS
    08:31 Apple Hardware Software Bet
    13:28 Should It Just Be an iPad?
    14:31 Gemini 4 Returns
    16:18 Meta Muse Strategy
    19:54 Google Product Dilemma
    26:28 OpenAI Bugging Scandal
    29:49 Character AI Bankruptcy
    32:31 Bankrupt Data Goldmine
    33:00 Privacy After Shutdown
    36:55 Why People Return to X
    39:35 Threads Fumbled It
    40:49 X Owns AI Talk
    49:17 Who Should Use X
    49:57 Reporters And Sources
    53:00 Video Platforms Win
    54:44 Gruber Gets It Wrong
    01:01:29 Brendan Carr is a Dummy
    01:02:40 Execution Livestream Fallout
    01:07:21 Sprint Merger Fallout
    01:08:48 Dish Spectrum to SpaceX
    01:09:44 Can Starlink Compete
    01:11:30 SpaceX Phone Rumors
    01:13:55 Smartphone Sales Slump
    01:18:37 Agents vs Websites
    01:24:21 Why UI Still Matters
    01:26:43 Super Intelligence Rebrand
    01:30:37 AI Game Decompiling
    01:36:35 Wrap Up and Plugs


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  7. Everything's recording everybody. What now?

    39 Min.

    Meta just shipped a pair of smart glasses with no camera — a change that both David and The Verge's Victoria Song are excited about. But these glasses, like the new product from Amazon Bee and seemingly …

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    Meta just shipped a pair of smart glasses with no camera — a change that both David and The Verge's Victoria Song are excited about. But these glasses, like the new product from Amazon Bee and seemingly everything else now, are still ready and willing to record the world around you at all times. What do we do in a world where everything, everywhere, might be recording? And can tech companies figure out a way to make us feel better about it?


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  8. The $8 million AI music scam

    38 Min.

    A man named Mike Smith was recently sentenced to 18 months in prison, and a fine in excess of $8 million, for creating an AI system that faked billions of streams and earned him millions in royalties. Wired's …

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    A man named Mike Smith was recently sentenced to 18 months in prison, and a fine in excess of $8 million, for creating an AI system that faked billions of streams and earned him millions in royalties. Wired's Kate Knibbs explains how Smith pulled it off, how he got caught, and what this case means for the internet's growing slop problems.

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  9. HomeView: Apple just got serious about the smart home | Livestream

    1 Std. 20 Min.

    Apple just announced its long-rumored HomeView smart home hub. But that's not all... there are cameras, thermostats and a door lock co-developed with LG and Schneider Electric, refreshed HomePod Minis, even a …

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    Apple just announced its long-rumored HomeView smart home hub. But that's not all... there are cameras, thermostats and a door lock co-developed with LG and Schneider Electric, refreshed HomePod Minis, even a new Apple TV 4K. The Verge's senior smart home reviewer Jennifer Pattinson Tuohy joined Nilay Patel and David Pierce LIVE to discuss and take your questions about Apple's massive play to take over your house.


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  10. The AI is in the computer

    1 Std. 45 Min.

    It's gadget season. More specifically, it's apparently "new computer for your new AI" season. David and Nilay talk through a slew of announcements — Amazon's Alexa Tablets, Microsoft's Surface Laptop Ultra, the …

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    It's gadget season. More specifically, it's apparently "new computer for your new AI" season. David and Nilay talk through a slew of announcements — Amazon's Alexa Tablets, Microsoft's Surface Laptop Ultra, the new Googlebooks, and Apple's upcoming smart home launch — to figure out if anyone has the right idea about the future of computing, and where the AI is supposed to live. After that, it's time for Brendan Carr is a Dummy, our thoughts on the Paramount / Warner / Skydance merger, and much more.


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    0:00 Cold Open 00:37 David’s back! 01:10 Parenting Chaos Update 02:49 Gadget News Rundown 03:47 New Amazon Alexa Tablets 05:15 Panos Strategy Shift 06:31 Play Store Bet 11:17 Default Android Tablet 13:18 Ads and Pricing Fears 15:30 Amazon Great Products 21:20 Matte Display Debate 25:01 Apple Smart Home Tease 26:12 Siri AI Reality Check 29:08 Smart Home Too Complex 33:37 Candy Crush Question 34:56 iPad Multiuser Problem 39:04 Microsoft AI Surface Push 40:35 Local AI Computing Shift 47:22 Magnetic USB C Charging 48:37 Google Book Laptop Confusion 54:20 AI Agents Need A Surface 58:50 Skepticism About Agents 01:07:46 Brendan Carr is a Dummy 01:09:23 ABC License Chilling Effect 01:11:24 Brendan Carr Ownership Cap 01:12:30 Cable Companies Sue Back 01:14:44 SXSW Corruption Game 01:15:50 Skydance Mega Merger 01:18:04 Debt Layoffs Streamer Cuts 01:22:58 Go90 Scale Returns 01:24:02 Netflix Loses Its Edge 01:30:44 ChatGPT Interactive UI 01:37:47 Sam Altman Tradeoffs 01:44:49 Wrap Up And Plugs

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  11. The many pluses and minuses of Alexa Plus

    35 Min.

    Amazon is determined to turn Alexa Plus into a do-everything AI assistant that can compete with Gemini, ChatGPT, Claude, and the rest. But after a year of testing, The Verge's Jen Tuohy has mixed feelings on …

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    Amazon is determined to turn Alexa Plus into a do-everything AI assistant that can compete with Gemini, ChatGPT, Claude, and the rest. But after a year of testing, The Verge's Jen Tuohy has mixed feelings on how it's all going. And on whether a new tablet is the right way to fix it.


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  12. The hot new thing in headphones

    41 Min.

    Bose, Sony, Beats, and seemingly every other headphone maker has recently released a new and excellent set of cans. Or buds. Or both. The Verge's John Higgins explains why the headphone market is suddenly so …

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    Bose, Sony, Beats, and seemingly every other headphone maker has recently released a new and excellent set of cans. Or buds. Or both. The Verge's John Higgins explains why the headphone market is suddenly so great, how the companies are competing now, and which new pair is the right one for you.


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  13. How much should you tell your AI agent?

    41 Min.

    The next big thing in AI, at least if you ask the tech companies, is assistant agents. David and The Verge's Allison Johnson have both been testing products like Meta's Muse, OpenAI's Dots, and startups like …

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    The next big thing in AI, at least if you ask the tech companies, is assistant agents. David and The Verge's Allison Johnson have both been testing products like Meta's Muse, OpenAI's Dots, and startups like Instinct, in an effort to find out how much you can really get done by messaging with an AI tool – and whether the productivity is worth the tradeoffs.


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  14. We hear pitches on the best vibe-coded apps

    56 Min.

    Welcome to the Bear Lair!* (No, it’s nothing like that other show.) As we continue to explore the world of AI tools and vibe coding, we invited a few enterprising Vergecast fans to share their projects — and we …

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    Welcome to the Bear Lair!* (No, it’s nothing like that other show.) As we continue to explore the world of AI tools and vibe coding, we invited a few enterprising Vergecast fans to share their projects — and we invited The Verge’s Hayden Field to judge them with us. We’ll see what people are working on, and whether any of them will make us fabulously wealthy.
    *We came up with this name before we became aware that someone else thought of it first... no relation to the APTNtv show Bears' Lair!


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  15. Dots get up in Muse's business

    1 Std. 29 Min.

    Is the key to turning around public opinion on AI just to make it cuter? Nilay Patel, Jake Kastrenakes and David Imel talk about the latest adorable agents that want access to all your data, then discuss …

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    Is the key to turning around public opinion on AI just to make it cuter? Nilay Patel, Jake Kastrenakes and David Imel talk about the latest adorable agents that want access to all your data, then discuss whether this week's White House AI accord is worth the paper it's written on.

    Plus: Gadgets, gadgets, gadgets! We speculate on Apple's rumored October 13 announcement, drool over Huawei's camera for your cameraphone, and herald the return of physical buttons in the new Kindle cases.

    We wrap things up with the usual Brendan Carr is a Dummy and a lightning round full of Cybercabs, data centers, 'Old Reddit' and government chatbots.

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    0:00 Welcome

    00:52 Awards and Listener Voting

    01:36 Week Ahead Preview

    01:52 OpenAI Dots vs Meta Muse

    06:09 Living as Tasks

    19:47 Business Models and Privacy

    23:41 Bot Traffic and Web Friction

    27:48 Trump Superintelligence Accord

    37:46 Gadget Segment Kickoff

    38:26 Huawei Screw On Lens Camera

    41:33 Why Phone Camera Hybrids Fail

    44:09 Pricey Phone Lens Debate

    45:31 Kindle Lineup Upgrades

    48:49 Apple Smart Home Display Rumors

    01:02:58 Brendan Carr is a Dummy

    01:08:27 America Gov Chatbot

    01:14:54 Old Reddit Bot Crackdown

    01:19:30 Utah Data Center Blowup

    01:25:17 Cybercab Ride Report

    01:27:31 Wrap Up And Plugs

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  16. We answer your questions about an iPod comeback, an E Ink iPhone Duo, and more

    28 Min.

    In this hotline episode, guest host David Imel answers your questions about digital cameras, iPods, E Ink phones, and the TI-84 graphing calculator being iced out of the Version History Hall of Fame. Further …

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    In this hotline episode, guest host David Imel answers your questions about digital cameras, iPods, E Ink phones, and the TI-84 graphing calculator being iced out of the Version History Hall of Fame.


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  17. Dots are OpenAI's cute lil guys

    21 Min.

    Jolly's got new competition: OpenAI just launched its competitor to Muse and Grok Bot. It's called Dots, and the headline feature is that it's also cute, with fuzzy lil triangles and clouds and hearts that you …

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    Jolly's got new competition: OpenAI just launched its competitor to Muse and Grok Bot. It's called Dots, and the headline feature is that it's also cute, with fuzzy lil triangles and clouds and hearts that you can give access to your personal accounts to do things for you. The Verge's senior AI reporter Hayden Field joins guest host David Imel from San Francisco right after OpenAI's DevDay presentation.


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  18. Pokémon trading cards are their own economy

    35 Min.

    The Pokémon Trading Card Game isn't just a game, it's an economy. Livestreamers provide vicarious dopamine hits to viewers who tune in to watch them open booster packs, and the rarest cards can resell for …

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    The Pokémon Trading Card Game isn't just a game, it's an economy. Livestreamers provide vicarious dopamine hits to viewers who tune in to watch them open booster packs, and the rarest cards can resell for hundreds or even thousands of dollars. The game's 30th anniversary collection just launched, putting more copies of the game's rarest cards back into circulation. Guest host David Imel talks about the state of the Pokémon TCG market with The Verge's film, TV and pop culture reporter Charles Pulliam-Moore.


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  19. Shuhei Yoshida on the future of gaming

    43 Min.

    It's a confusing time right now for gaming. Video games are becoming an increasingly expensive hobby. Games are expensive to make, too, and companies want to sell the most lucrative ones they can: Sony and …

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    It's a confusing time right now for gaming. Video games are becoming an increasingly expensive hobby. Games are expensive to make, too, and companies want to sell the most lucrative ones they can: Sony and Microsoft are cutting jobs to refocus on blockbusters. At the same time, we’ve got more ways to play than ever: handhelds, phones, even cloud gaming is getting better. So where are we headed? Today on The Vergecast, Sean Hollister asks that question of Shuhei Yoshida, who spent 31 years at Sony playing games and figuring out what gamers will pay for.


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  20. Phones don't have lights

    1 Std. 32 Min.

    Meta's Muse AI agent is cute (sometimes caked-up) and it performs well as a productivity tool. And, if you give it access to your social media and e-mail, it can know basically everything about you. This week …

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    Meta's Muse AI agent is cute (sometimes caked-up) and it performs well as a productivity tool. And, if you give it access to your social media and e-mail, it can know basically everything about you. This week on The Vergecast, Nilay Patel, Jake Kastrenakes and David Imel give their reactions to Mark Zuckerberg's demos at Wednesday's Meta Connect keynote. They also talk about the new glasses hardware, including the new VR glasses and audio-only, camera-free Ray-Bans.
    Then, we take a look at the newly-announced, chimeric Chrome/Android hybrid Googlebooks, find out why Brendan Carr is a dummy this week, analyze the Paramount merger, discuss what YouTube's A/B video testing means for the increasingly tenuous concept of a shared reality, and end on a surprisingly heartwarming story about RODECaster 4K support.


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    0:00 Welcome Back Banter

    00:31 Meta Connect Setup

    01:27 Muse First Impressions

    05:28 Privacy Trust Gap

    07:58 Pervert Glasses Debate

    12:55 Passive Surveillance Reality

    15:42 Is Muse Actually Winning

    18:44 Muse Charm Post Phone

    21:38 Do We Need Agents

    26:12 Break And Return

    26:29 New Meta Hardware

    27:00 Audio Only Ray Bans

    28:30 Muse Powered Glasses

    31:15 Meta Bets on Muse

    32:28 Hearing Aid Glasses Pitch

    34:40 VR Glasses Return

    39:04 Holograms and Splats

    42:44 Google Books Arrive

    44:57 Android Laptop Lock In

    47:49 Windows Fatigue Debate

    54:54 Hype Desk Blade Drama

    57:14 Remembering Blade Chaos

    01:00:37 Blade Reboot Frustrations

    01:01:26 Sonos Sponsor Break

    01:03:07 Brendan Carr is a Dummy

    01:07:38 Lightning Round Kickoff

    01:08:02 Meta Muse Mascot Chaos

    01:09:26 Paramount Warner Deal Fallout

    01:12:37 YouTube AI Channel Agents

    01:14:05 A B Video Testing Ethics

    01:21:25 Xbox Layoffs And Halo Shift

    01:24:45 Rodecaster Free 4K Update

    01:26:36 Muse Marketplace Haggling

    01:27:35 Wrap Up And Next Episodes


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  21. Meta and Snap battle for your face

    31 Min.

    Meta and Snap both want to get on your face. The Verge's Victoria Song and Jay Peters tried out all the new hardware: Specs, audio-only Ray Bans, and Meta VR. Today, they join guest host David Imel to talk …

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    Meta and Snap both want to get on your face. The Verge's Victoria Song and Jay Peters tried out all the new hardware: Specs, audio-only Ray Bans, and Meta VR. Today, they join guest host David Imel to talk about how these new smart glasses feel, both physically and emotionally.


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  22. Hotline: Folding phones in cars, EVs in Mexico

    28 Min.

    Transportation editor Andrew Hawkins is here to answer your questions about the confluence of cars and gadgets. Could a folding phone replace a dashboard display? What to do about the iPhone Pro Max not fitting …

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    Transportation editor Andrew Hawkins is here to answer your questions about the confluence of cars and gadgets. Could a folding phone replace a dashboard display? What to do about the iPhone Pro Max not fitting the Tesla's built-in wireless charger? And we hear from a listener who -- shockingly -- doesn't care about CarPlay.


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  23. DLSS 5 explained, with Linus Tech Tips

    37 Min.

    Nvidia's new DLSS 5 (Deep Learning Super Sampling 5) rendering technology uses AI to (theoretically) improve video game graphics. When it was announced, social media declared that it was "yassifying" video game …

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    Nvidia's new DLSS 5 (Deep Learning Super Sampling 5) rendering technology uses AI to (theoretically) improve video game graphics. When it was announced, social media declared that it was "yassifying" video game characters, changing faces in a way game developers didn't intend. Linus Tech Tips' own Linus Sebastian and David Gauthier join guest host David Imel to break down the the hype and controversy.


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  24. Googlebooks are coming for your Mac

    34 Min.

    We tried out the new Googlebooks, which are essentially Chromebooks evolved with an Android elemental stone. They're made by Dell, Lenovo, HP, Acer, and Asus (not Google), but all have the new Googlebook OS …

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    We tried out the new Googlebooks, which are essentially Chromebooks evolved with an Android elemental stone. They're made by Dell, Lenovo, HP, Acer, and Asus (not Google), but all have the new Googlebook OS, heavy Android phone and Gemini integration, and a built-in "Glowbar." Laptop reviewer Antonio G. Di Benedetto went hands-on with the new devices, and reports back to guest host David Imel.


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  25. The real story of the iPhone 18 Pro's camera

    1 Std. 29 Min.

    This week's iPhone 18 Pro discourse made aperture a priority, but today on Vergecast we zoom out to talk about the state of smart phone photography at large. Executive editor Jake Kastrenakes, guest host David …

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    This week's iPhone 18 Pro discourse made aperture a priority, but today on Vergecast we zoom out to talk about the state of smart phone photography at large. Executive editor Jake Kastrenakes, guest host David Imel and senior reviewer Allison Johnson get into manual controls, "buckets of photons," and Apple and Google's strategies on how to prove a picture you took is real. Then, senior AI reporter Hayden Field returns to The Vergecast, just a few new revelations of misaligned behavior since her last appearance. She breaks down who's calling for a slowdown, who's full steam ahead, and the prisoner's dilemma facing the industry. And in the lightning round, we cover robotaxis calling the cops, the Boox Palma 3 e-reader, and the latest crop of intentionally low-quality digital cameras.


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    0:00 Welcome and lineup
    00:30 Version History returns
    02:08 Oregon Trail livestream plug
    02:36 Apple camera geekout
    02:59 Apple's new CEO Emmy moment
    05:23 iPhone 18 Pro upgrades
    08:33 Pro controls usability
    11:46 RAW vs ProRAW explained
    14:35 Signal to noise deep dive
    21:35 Photographic styles debate
    25:25 Reference Image authenticity
    32:40 What we want next
    41:40 AI safety drama begins
    42:36 AI Safety Freakout
    46:10 Liability And Regulation
    51:34 China Race Narrative
    54:43 Pace The Frontier Plan
    55:54 Auditors Inside Labs
    01:00:22 Prisoners Dilemma Problem
    01:04:38 Accountability Dead End
    01:08:45 Waymo Calls The Cops
    01:14:56 The E Reader Race
    01:19:56 Tiny Retro Cameras
    01:26:32 Wrap Up And Goodbye


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  26. Apple's new iPhones and Watches are better than the last ones

    47 Min.

    Senior reviewers Allison Johnson and Victoria Song trade host and guest duties in a Vergecasting ouroboros that's never been attempted before and will probably never be attempted again. Allison talks about the …

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    Senior reviewers Allison Johnson and Victoria Song trade host and guest duties in a Vergecasting ouroboros that's never been attempted before and will probably never be attempted again. Allison talks about the iPhone 18 Pro's new camera, Victoria talks about the Watch 12 and Ultra 4's new sensors, and they both give their verdicts on who should upgrade.

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  27. Your AI apocalypse questions, answered

    32 Min.

    Last week, an Anthropic researcher resigned and posted on X, "The people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade." These warnings are nothing new, but this one managed …

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    Last week, an Anthropic researcher resigned and posted on X, "The people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade." These warnings are nothing new, but this one managed to break into the mainstream. So, do the people making AI really think it could kill us all? How? And if it really could be as dangerous as they say, why would anyone continue to work on it? Senior AI reporter Hayden Field joined us to answer your questions about the AI freakout.


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  28. Is social media driving teen mental health issues?

    46 Min.

    Two years ago, social psychologist Jonathan Haidt released his book, The Anxious Generation. In it, he argued that the rise of social media and smartphone use is to blame for the prominent decline in teen …

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    Two years ago, social psychologist Jonathan Haidt released his book, The Anxious Generation. In it, he argued that the rise of social media and smartphone use is to blame for the prominent decline in teen mental health since 2010. This month, psychology researcher Peter Gray takes on that narrative with his book, Restoring Childhood. In a conversation with senior policy reporter Lauren Feiner, Gray argues that school — not social media — is the real culprit.


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  29. Who is the $1,059 Steam VR headset for?

    41 Min.

    Sean Hollister got his hands and face on Valve's new VR headset, the Steam Frame. It's expensive, starting at more than $1,000. It's buggy — he and CNET's Scott Stein both felt like beta testers as they …

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    Sean Hollister got his hands and face on Valve's new VR headset, the Steam Frame. It's expensive, starting at more than $1,000. It's buggy — he and CNET's Scott Stein both felt like beta testers as they reviewed it. But it's also full of interesting ideas, including the promise that Steam games could one day come to your mobile phone. This week on The Vergecast, Sean and Scott discuss who exactly this device is for, in a world that mostly seems to have moved on from VR.


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  30. We unfolded the iPhone Duo

    1 Std. 18 Min.

    Apple did the one more thing: This week it announced its much-anticipated folding phone. It also announced some surprising and controversial new AI features for Apple Watch, including "Live Rewind," which gives …

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    Apple did the one more thing: This week it announced its much-anticipated folding phone. It also announced some surprising and controversial new AI features for Apple Watch, including "Live Rewind," which gives the user a text transcript of the last 15 seconds of real life.


    On today's Vergecast, Allison Johnson and Vee Song report back from California after having more hands-on time with Apple's new devices. Plus, Nilay Patel and David Imel take another swing at discussing Mac Minis and local LLMs with AI researcher CJ Trowbridge. Finally, Allison and Jake tackle some non-Apple stories in the truly rapid-fire thunder round.


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