Deep Read with Phoebe Lovatt
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Hosted by Phoebe Lovatt, Deep Read features conversations with leading creative thinkers on the ideas shaping our world — and the books that have shaped their lives.
Each episode is accompanied by a curated Deep Reading List, available via Phoebe Lovatt’s Substack.
Follow @phoebelovatt and @deepread.phoebelovatt for more.
Episódios 58
Novelist Róisín Tapponi on Art, Ambition, and Writing Books for the Doomscroll Generation
Writer, curator, and founder of Shasha Movies, Róisín Tapponi joins me to discuss her debut novel Scene City – a wickedly funny portrait of London's contemporary art world – and her ambition to write fiction …
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Writer, curator, and founder of Shasha Movies, Róisín Tapponi joins me to discuss her debut novel Scene City – a wickedly funny portrait of London's contemporary art world – and her ambition to write fiction for the brain-rot generation.
We also discuss the enduring influence of the Young British Artists, why the publishing industry needs to catch up with contemporary culture, and the difference between making art and selling it. As always, Róisín's Deep Reading list can be found at phoebe.substack.com
Author Sarah Wilson on Collapse, Radical Acceptance, and How to Live Through Uncertainty
Sarah Wilson is a journalist, activist, and author of a new book: I Eat the Stars: How to Live Fully and Beautifully in a Collapsing World. After years of climate activism, Sarah began to question whether our …
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Sarah Wilson is a journalist, activist, and author of a new book: I Eat the Stars: How to Live Fully and Beautifully in a Collapsing World.
After years of climate activism, Sarah began to question whether our insistence on hope might be preventing us from confronting an uncomfortable truth: that the complex systems underpinning our capitalist world may already be collapsing. In this conversation, we explore what collapse actually means, the difference between the end of capitalism and the end of humanity, and how community, resilience and connection might help us navigate an uncertain future.
A note to listeners: This episode explores potentially overwhelming subjects, including climate change and societal collapse. Please listen at your own pace.
Trend Forecaster Emily Segal on Tasteslop, Normcore & Dating for Literature Lovers
Trend forecaster, writer, and artist Emily Segal joins me to talk about taste, trends, technology, and her work as Head of Brand for Readme – a new dating app for literature lovers. We also discuss how trend …
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Trend forecaster, writer, and artist Emily Segal joins me to talk about taste, trends, technology, and her work as Head of Brand for Readme – a new dating app for literature lovers.
We also discuss how trend forecasting became a content vertical, the aestheticisation of reading, and what today’s 'creative recession' tells us about the state of culture. As always, Emily's Deep Reading list can be found at phoebe.substack.com
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Cou Cou Intimates founder Rose Colcord on Ego, Reading in the Age of AI, and Resisting the Personal Brand
Rose Colcord is the founder of Cou Cou Intimates, the 100% organic cotton essentials brand she's built over the past five years into a cult favourite among stylish, creative women worldwide. A former philosophy …
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Rose Colcord is the founder of Cou Cou Intimates, the 100% organic cotton essentials brand she's built over the past five years into a cult favourite among stylish, creative women worldwide. A former philosophy major with a particular interest in ecofeminism, Rose has resisted the pressure on founders (especially women) to become the face of their own brands, choosing instead to let the product - as well as its artful campaigns and collaborations - to speak for itself. In this episode, she talks about the inspiration and intention behind Cou Cou, her love of literature, and how becoming a first-time mother has reshaped the way she thinks about work, rest, and presence. - Phoebe.substack.com @deepread.phoebelovatt @phoebelovatt @coucouintimatesEntrepreneur and writer Trinity Mouzon Wofford on Rejecting "Wellness" Culture, Matriarchal Lineage, and Eating at Home
My guest today is the writer and entrepreneur, Trinity Mouzon Wofford, who is the author a beautiful new cookbook titled: 'Eating at Home, The Nourishing Practice of Everyday Cooking'. We spoke about the …
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My guest today is the writer and entrepreneur, Trinity Mouzon Wofford, who is the author a beautiful new cookbook titled: 'Eating at Home, The Nourishing Practice of Everyday Cooking'. We spoke about the remarkable lineage of women she comes from, building and reshaping a successful business, the realities of motherhood, only-child psychology, and the pitfalls of “wellness” as we’ve come to know it.
Deep Reading lists for every episode can be found at phoebe.substack.com
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Salter House Founder Sandeep Salter on Independent Retail, Family Business, and Building Something That Lasts
Find Deep Reading lists at phoebe.substack.com - Sandeep Salter is a friend who is like family to me — we met on the first day of secondary school in London and I spent a considerable chunk of my teenage years …
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Sandeep Salter is a friend who is like family to me — we met on the first day of secondary school in London and I spent a considerable chunk of my teenage years in her family home. She has lived in New York since her university days, and her CV is a Google Map of the most distinctive independent businesses in the city: Printed Matter, McNally Jackson, Goods for the Study, Picture Room, and now Salter House — the family brand she runs with her husband Carson, which is best known for the cotton nightdresses that inspired a thousand imitators.
In this conversation, we talk about the discipline that comes with growing up as the child of dancers, the efficiency of feeling genuinely comfortable in your own skin, and Sandeep's commitment to building something at her own pace in a city that champions speed above all else.
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Creative Director Lydia Pang on Eating Bitter, the Cost of Ambition, and Writing a Book Like No-One's Reading
Lydia Pang is the co-founder of creative agencies MØRNING and EVENING, and the author of Eat Bitter: A Story About Guts, and Food — a memoir in eight recipes about fertility loss, relationship struggles, and …
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Lydia Pang is the co-founder of creative agencies MØRNING and EVENING, and the author of Eat Bitter: A Story About Guts, and Food — a memoir in eight recipes about fertility loss, relationship struggles, and burnout induced by over a decade of working herself into the ground.
She's also someone who has spent her career branding other people, which makes her examination of her own long-suppressed vulnerability especially compelling. We talked about the mythology of New York, the tension between creative purity and commercial survival, and what it means to write a book like no-one's reading.
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Author Stephanie Wambugu on Jealousy, Ambiguous Friendships, and Becoming an Adult in NYC
Deep Read #51 is with New York-based author Stephanie Wambugu. Her debut novel Lonely Crowds centres on the intense bond between two young women, Ruth and Maria, who meet at a Catholic girls’ school in Rhode …
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Deep Read #51 is with New York-based author Stephanie Wambugu. Her debut novel Lonely Crowds centres on the intense bond between two young women, Ruth and Maria, who meet at a Catholic girls’ school in Rhode Island and remain entangled in one another’s lives into adulthood.
We spoke about the discomfort of ugly emotions, the dangers of ‘staying too long at the fair’, and the realities of navigating artistic ambition while trying to establish stability, intimacy, and a truly “adult” life.
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Zakia Sewell on Finding Albion, Folk Culture, and Reclaiming Englishness from the Right
Zakia Sewell is a broadcaster, DJ and writer, and the author of a remarkable new book, Finding Albion: Myth, Folklore and the Quest for a Hidden Britain. In this conversation we talk about national identity …
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Zakia Sewell is a broadcaster, DJ and writer, and the author of a remarkable new book, Finding Albion: Myth, Folklore and the Quest for a Hidden Britain.
In this conversation we talk about national identity, immigration, paganism, Notting Hill Carnival, radical histories, British humour, and what happens when love of place is ceded entirely to the right.
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KRAUM Founder Annie Kreighbaum on Fast Beauty, Creative Integrity, and Staying Human in the age of AI
Find Deep Reading lists for each episode at phoebe.substack.com - Deep Read #49 is with Annie Kreighbaum, a creative director and beauty-world architect who helped shape Glossier in its defining era and is now …
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Deep Read #49 is with Annie Kreighbaum, a creative director and beauty-world architect who helped shape Glossier in its defining era and is now building KRAUM, a brand that begins with five exquisitely small makeup brushes made to her exacting specifications in Japan — what she half-jokingly calls a “vanity project,” for reasons that become clear as we talk. We revisit the optimism and extravagant funding energy of 2016, and the skills she honed in that moment — instinct, language, taste, and the discipline of editing — before turning to the bigger thesis behind KRAUM: not just better tools, but a slower, more intentional approach to getting ready. We also discuss fast beauty, permanence, her resistance to AI as a shortcut in creative work, and the books that shape her thinking.
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Writer Amil Niazi on Losing her Ambition, Motherhood and the Millennial Mid-Life Crisis
Amil Niazi is the writer behind The Cut’s column 'The Hard Part' and author of a new book: Life After Ambition: A “Good Enough” Memoir. You might’ve read Amil’s piece Losing My Ambition, which went viral back …
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Amil Niazi is the writer behind The Cut’s column 'The Hard Part' and author of a new book: Life After Ambition: A “Good Enough” Memoir.
You might’ve read Amil’s piece Losing My Ambition, which went viral back in 2022— partly because it named something that was already in the air post-pandemic: this creeping disillusionment, not just with our jobs, but with the whole story we were sold about work.
In this conversation we talk about the shift from ambition as aspiration to ambition as survival strategy, and what it means to work hard and still find that the doors don’t open. We also talk about motherhood vs. work. vs. meaning, the burgeoning Millennial mid-life crisis, and of course Amil shares her favourite books.
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Author Zoe Dubno on Growing Up in NYC, Art World Status Games, and the Performance of Taste
Zoe Dubno is the author of Happiness and Love – a buzzy new novel set inside the decadent but spiritually empty downtown New York art world, where artists, collectors, and social climbers circle each other in …
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Zoe Dubno is the author of Happiness and Love – a buzzy new novel set inside the decadent but spiritually empty downtown New York art world, where artists, collectors, and social climbers circle each other in pursuit of status and survival.
Our chat that moves between New York and London, artists and patrons, boredom and desire. We also covered the performance of taste, the emotional cost of ambition, and what it means to live inside a culture that rewards image over substance. And, of course, Zoe shared some of her favourite books.
I hope you enjoy the conversation.
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Founder and Connector Sue Chan on Modern Hospitality, Dining Together, and the Experiential Economy in an AI age
Deep Reading Lists can be found at phoebe.substack.com @phoebelovatt @deepread.phoebelovatt @sueperchan @careofchan - Today's guest is Sue Chan, founder of Care of Chan, the hospitality-driven creative agency …
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Today's guest is Sue Chan, founder of Care of Chan, the hospitality-driven creative agency behind some of the busiest events, dinners and cultural moments you've seen online (or maybe even been lucky enough to attend in person). Sue and I first met over a decade ago back when she was transitioning out of her role as brand director at iconic New York City restaurant Momofuku and beginning to build what would eventually become Care of Chan.
Since then, the world and the way we come together has completely transformed. We talk about that transformation, the loneliness epidemic, the rise of the event economy, and the way in-person experiences have become the new status symbol when so much of our culture is mediated through screens. From influencer trips that break the internet, to why a good dinner can feel more radical than ever, to the psychological barriers that stop so many people reaching out.
Deep Read Salon LIVE: 39BC Founder Sharmadean Reid on Rituals, Research, and Moving into her 'Yin' Era
Find Deep Reading lists for each episode at phoebe.substack.com Follow Phoebe and the podcast: @phoebelovatt @deepread.podcast - Today's episode was recorded live in London as part of our Deep Read Salon event …
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Today's episode was recorded live in London as part of our Deep Read Salon event series, with my longtime friend and returning guest, Sharmadean Reid (@sharmadeanreid).
We reunited for this live episode at Mason & Fifth in West London, where Sharma was hosting a pop-up for her new luxury bathing brand, 39BC (@39bc.world). As a master of what the internet loves to call “worldbuilding,” Sharma has created an entire universe around this brand — drawing on ancient bathing rituals from around the world to build something really special and unique.
It felt like the perfect moment to ask her more about her reading and research process, the evolution of her business philosophy, and the personal and professional transitions that have brought her into this new era of her life and career.
Sharma and I have loved talking to each other for over 15 years now, and I think you can hear that in this conversation. I hope you enjoy it.
Facialist and Founder Sofie Pavitt on Career Pivots, Locking In, and Building a Skincare Brand
DEEP READING LISTS are available at phoebe.substack.com Sofie Pavitt is one of New York’s most in-demand facialists and the founder of Sofie Pavitt Face. If you’re considering a career pivot, this episode will …
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Sofie Pavitt is one of New York’s most in-demand facialists and the founder of Sofie Pavitt Face.
If you’re considering a career pivot, this episode will hopefully inspire you. After fifteen years working in fashion for brands like Abercrombie & Fitch, River Island, Gap, and Michael Kors, Sofie left her corporate job, retrained as an esthetician, and built a business from scratch — one client and one facial at a time.
This is a fun, business-focussed interview that explores the nuts of bolds of launching a skincare brand from scratch. Sofie shares how she transitioned from designer to entrepreneur, the reality of building a brand in the age of social media, and why her mission is to make effective skincare accessible and uncomplicated. We also talk about work ethic, motherhood, beauty standards, and what it means to build something that lasts in a culture obsessed with the new.
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Professor Sophie Bishop on Influencer Creep, Authenticity, and The Future of Creative Work
Deep Reading lists for each episode can be found at phoebe.substack.com - Today's conversation is with Sophie Bishop, an associate professor at the University of Leeds, whose new book Influencer Creep: How …
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Today's conversation is with Sophie Bishop, an associate professor at the University of Leeds, whose new book Influencer Creep: How Optimization, Authenticity and Self-Branding Transform Creative Culture is out now.
Sophie shares how her early work on beauty bloggers led her to coin the phrase “influencer creep,” why artists now face the same anxieties as influencers about constant visibility, and how these dynamics connect to broader questions about labour rights, AI, and the future of cultural work.
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The Cut's EIC Lindsay Peoples on Style, Politics, and Editing with Intention
Deep Reading Lists are available at phoebe.substack.com - Something a little different this week: Episode #42 of Deep Read is a live conversation with Lindsay Peoples, Editor-in-Chief, recorded in London during …
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Something a little different this week: Episode #42 of Deep Read is a live conversation with Lindsay Peoples, Editor-in-Chief, recorded in London during Fashion Week.
We spoke about making intentional work in a noisy media landscape, why fashion and politics are inseparable, and how she balances the heaviness of the job with joy.
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Novelist Angela Flournoy on Friendship, Time, and the Wilderness of Contemporary Adulthood
Deep Reading lists for each episode can be found at phoebe.substack.com - Today I’m joined by New York-based novelist Angela Flournoy, whose highly anticipated second book The Wilderness explores the evolving …
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Today I’m joined by New York-based novelist Angela Flournoy, whose highly anticipated second book The Wilderness explores the evolving friendships of four Black women over the span of two decades.
In our conversation, Angela and I discuss what it means to come of age in uncertain times, how friendship can serve as a strategy for survival, and why Los Angeles and New York — the twin backdrops of her novel — carry such symbolic weight. We also talk about writing through motherhood, the shifting markers of adulthood, and the influence of writers like Toni Morrison and Mike Davis on Angela’s work.
Deep Read Salon LIVE: Multidisciplinary Artist Ronan Mckenzie on Seasons, Sacred Spaces, and the Importance of Creative Longevity
Deep Reading lists for each episode can be found at phoebe.substack.com - A special episode recorded live in London, June 2025. Ronan and I spoke about: How she recovered from creative, professional, and …
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A special episode recorded live in London, June 2025. Ronan and I spoke about:
How she recovered from creative, professional, and financial burnout
Interning in her late 20s
Having hobbies!!
Protecting sacred spaces
Her physical movement practice
Different moods for different months
Managing the pressure to always be sharing
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Author Bolu Babalola on Second-Chance Romance, Internet Discourse, and Finding Joy Amid the Darkness
Deep Reading lists for each episode can be found at phoebe.substack.com - Bolu Babalola is the author of 'Love in Colour', 'Honey & Spice' and a new book titled 'Sweet Heat', which comes out on July 3rd 2025 …
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Bolu Babalola is the author of 'Love in Colour', 'Honey & Spice' and a new book titled 'Sweet Heat', which comes out on July 3rd 2025. We spoke about finding joy amid the darkness, being a public person, internet discourse, Yoruba culture, and why rom-coms are due a proper renaissance – plus much more.
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Founder and Artist Kai Avent-deLeon on Self-Love, Staying True, and Creating Community Spaces
Deep Reading lists for each episode can be found at phoebe.substack.com - Kai Avent-DeLeon is the founder of the concept store Sincerely, Tommy and the restaurant Che–both beloved fixtures in Bed-Stuy …
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Kai Avent-DeLeon is the founder of the concept store Sincerely, Tommy and the restaurant Che–both beloved fixtures in Bed-Stuy, Brooklyn, the neighbourhood where Kai was born and raised. She also runs Sanctuary, a retreat programme in upstate New York. We spoke about Kai's spiritual and wellness practices, her approach to goal-setting and parenting, the power of real-life community, and so much more.
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Live at Miu Miu Literary Club: Author Naoise Dolan on Sex Education, Female Socialisation, and Millennial Malaise
This special episode was recorded live at the Miu Miu Literary Club, which took place on 9th-10th April 2025 in Milan. Under the direction of Mrs Miuccia Prada, and now in its second iteration, the Literary …
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This special episode was recorded live at the Miu Miu Literary Club, which took place on 9th-10th April 2025 in Milan. Under the direction of Mrs Miuccia Prada, and now in its second iteration, the Literary Club is the latest in a series of cultural experiences devised by Miu Miu to promote the arts.
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Naoise Dolan is an Irish author whose first book, ‘Exciting Times’, was published to widespread acclaim in 2020. Naoise followed this with the equally well-received ‘The Happy Couple’ in 2023. In both books, Naoise tackles the confusion of contemporary life with precision and wit: her characters grapple with sexuality, housing instability, social media malaise, and our growing class disparities. At the same time, Naoise brings a fresh, often unpredictable perspective to the timeless topics of education, girlhood, and desire that inform this year’s Literary Club curation.
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Live at Miu Miu Literary Club: Writer and Translator Lauren Elkin on Girlhood, Desire, and The Joy of Female Friendship
This special episode was recorded live at the Miu Miu Literary Club, which took place on 9th-10th April 2025 in Milan. Under the direction of Mrs Miuccia Prada, and now in its second iteration, the Literary …
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This special episode was recorded live at the Miu Miu Literary Club, which took place on 9th-10th April 2025 in Milan. Under the direction of Mrs Miuccia Prada, and now in its second iteration, the Literary Club is the latest in a series of cultural experiences devised by Miu Miu to promote the arts.
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Lauren Elkin is the translator behind Simone de Beauvoir’s posthumously published book ‘The Inseparables’ - a focus text for this year’s Miu Miu Literary Club - and she is the author of multiple non-fiction books and novels. These include 2024’s ‘Scaffolding’, which explores the ethics of desire, the transition from girlhood to womanhood, and the impact that formative teachers can have on our lives.
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Artist and Director Martine Syms on Discernment, Awkward Phases, and Visibility
Deep Read #35 is with the artist and director, Martine Syms. Martine is one of the most prominent names in the contemporary art world. Her work encompasses sculpture, digital art, video, publishing, and …
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Deep Read #35 is with the artist and director, Martine Syms.
Martine is one of the most prominent names in the contemporary art world. Her work encompasses sculpture, digital art, video, publishing, and photography, and has been shown in dozens of galleries and iconic art institutions worldwide. In 2022, she made her directorial debut with 'The African Desperate', and she's currently working on her second feature.
Martine is as fun as she is brilliant! We discussed shame, astrology, Sapphic poetry, badmind people, awkward stages, visibility, and so much more.
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TV Writer Camilla Blackett on AI and Hollywood, Working in London vs. LA, Advice for Aspiring Screenwriters
Camilla Blackett originally hails from Reading in the UK but is now based in Los Angeles. Camilla began her career writing for the original UK production of Skins before making the move to LA in 2012, where her …
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Camilla Blackett originally hails from Reading in the UK but is now based in Los Angeles. Camilla began her career writing for the original UK production of Skins before making the move to LA in 2012, where her screenwriting career quickly skyrocketed.
Camilla and I have been friends for many years and I thought it would be interesting to share some insight into the life of a successful writer in LA. We discussed why the Hollywood trade union strikes of 2023 set an important precedent for the creative industries at large; how streaming changed the landscape of TV writing; why LA and London offer the ideal dual bases for a creative life, and the advice Camilla gives to anyone hoping for their big break in her industry.
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Author Haley Mlotek on Romance, Divorce, and the Stories We Tell About Both
Deep Reading lists for each episode can be found at phoebe.substack.com - Deep Read #33 is a conversation with the writer, editor, and organiser Haley Mlotek. Haley is the author of a new book titled, ‘No …
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Deep Read #33 is a conversation with the writer, editor, and organiser Haley Mlotek.
Haley is the author of a new book titled, ‘No Fault: A Memoir of Romance and Divorce’, which is both a social and cultural history of divorce and a personal account of Haley’s own experiences. We discussed the cultural canon of 'divorce stories', being vulnerable on the page, 'abolishing the family', the social fabric of Montreal, and much more.
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Writer Nathalie Olah on 'Bad Taste', Consumerism as Identity, Seeking Beauty in an Ugly World
Deep Reading lists for each episode can be found at phoebe.substack.com - Nathalie Olah is a writer, cultural critic, and the author of 'Bad Taste: Or the Politics of Ugliness'. We discussed how complex …
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Nathalie Olah is a writer, cultural critic, and the author of 'Bad Taste: Or the Politics of Ugliness'. We discussed how complex hierarchies of taste shape our visually saturated era, the commercialisation of the professional class, and the search for beauty in a spiritually ugly world (plus much more).
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Health Coach Daphne Javitch on 'Doing Well', Living with Ease, and How to Feel Better in 2025
My guest today is the LA-based health coach Daphne Javitch, founder of the platform Doing Well. We talked about her definition of optimum health (and the people she thinks embody it), why wellness is …
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My guest today is the LA-based health coach Daphne Javitch, founder of the platform Doing Well. We talked about her definition of optimum health (and the people she thinks embody it), why wellness is essentially a time management issue, and how we can think about wellbeing communally as well as personally. Plus: simple tips for feeling better in 2025.
Please note that this conversation was recorded before the LA wildfires broke out.
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Slow Factory Founder Céline Semaan on Radical Healing, Sacred Rebellion and The Power of Indigenous Wisdom
Deep Reading lists for each episode can be found at phoebe.substack.com - Deep Read #30 is a conversation with Céline Semaan, a Lebanese-Canadian artist, designer, writer, and the founder of Slow Factor, the …
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Deep Read #30 is a conversation with Céline Semaan, a Lebanese-Canadian artist, designer, writer, and the founder of Slow Factor, the environmental and social justice non-profit.
Céline recently published her first book, A Woman is A School. Part memoir, part cultural anthropology, A Woman Is a School tells Céline’s story as a war survivor and child refugee, and creates an archive for the powerful Indigenous knowledge and wisdom of the Global South.
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Brand Expert Ana Andjelic on Visual Culture, Personal Branding and How Luxury Lost Its Soft Power
Deep Reading Lists for each episode can be found at phoebe.substack.com - Today's guest is renowned brand expert Ana Andjelic, author of the forthcoming book 'Hitmakers: How Brands Influence Culture'. Ana and I …
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Today's guest is renowned brand expert Ana Andjelic, author of the forthcoming book 'Hitmakers: How Brands Influence Culture'. Ana and I talked about personal branding, marketing in visual culture, and what she considers the biggest brand hits and misses of 2024.
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