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1. Jensen Huang Is Out at Nvidia

   13 de novembro de 202639 minEpisódio 222A seguir

   Jensen Huang is out as chief executive of Nvidia. It’s a stunning fall for one the most powerful figures of the A.I. boom.To make sense of it all, we’re joined by two of the reporters who’ve been leading the …

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   Jensen Huang is out as chief executive of Nvidia. It’s a stunning fall for one the most powerful figures of the A.I. boom.

   To make sense of it all, we’re joined by two of the reporters who’ve been leading the coverage for The New York Times, Ana Swanson and Ryan Mac, alongside Stephen Witt, the author of the Jensen Huang biography “The Thinking Machine.”

   We’ll discuss how we got here, the significance of a Jensen-less Nvidia and what happens next.

   Guests:

   • Ana Swanson, a reporter at The New York Times covering international economics and trade
   • Ryan Mac, a technology reporter at The New York Times covering corporate accountability
   • Stephen Witt, author of “The Thinking Machine: Jensen Huang, Nvidia, and the World’s Most Coveted Microchip”

   Additional Reading:

   • Jensen Huang Resigns From Nvidia
   • Jensen Huang Said to Have Had Relationship With Nvidia Executive Who Reports to Him
   • Trump Officials Clashed Over Megaspeed, Firm at Heart of Nvidia Affair

   • Commerce Dept. Chip Inquiry Was Halted After Nvidia Intervention

      

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2. The Jensen Huang Affair

   10 de novembro de 202631 minEpisódio 221A seguir

   Jensen Huang, the chief executive of Nvidia, has admitted to an affair with a top executive at the data center company Megaspeed — a woman going by the name of Alice Huang who the U.S. government alleges is a …

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   Jensen Huang, the chief executive of Nvidia, has admitted to an affair with a top executive at the data center company Megaspeed — a woman going by the name of Alice Huang who the U.S. government alleges is a Chinese spy.

   In this special midweek episode of “Hard Fork,” we sit down with Stephen Witt, who wrote last year’s Jensen Huang biography “The Thinking Machine.”

   We’ll dig into what you need to know about this spiraling scandal and what it means for A.I. and the global economy.

    

   Guests:

   • Stephen Witt, author of “The Thinking Machine: Jensen Huang, Nvidia, and the World’s Most Coveted Microchip”
      

   Additional Reading:

   • A Mystery C.E.O. and Billions in Sales: Is China Buying Banned Nvidia Chips? 
   • Nvidia Chief, Jensen Huang, Is Seen as Target of Chinese Spy Plot
   • Nvidia Opens Investigation Into Jensen Huang’s Relationship With Suspected Chinese Spy
   • Rubio Warned Officials About Nvidia Chief’s Entanglement With Chinese Spy
   • Commerce Dept. Chip Inquiry Was Halted After Nvidia Intervention

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3. Why the Tech Right Lost Big This Week

   6 de novembro de 20261 h 8 minEpisódio 220A seguir

   After watching the historic election results on Tuesday night, we sat down with Erin Griffith and Ezra Klein to make sense of what they mean for the tech industry. We talk about the role of anti-A.I. and …

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   After watching the historic election results on Tuesday night, we sat down with Erin Griffith and Ezra Klein to make sense of what they mean for the tech industry. We talk about the role of anti-A.I. and anti-data-center sentiment, backlash against billionaires and whether Silicon Valley is experiencing a vibe shift away from the Tech Right. Finally, Max sits down with the reporter Theodore Schleifer to rank midterm tech megadonors from first to worst. Who got the most bang for their buck?

   Guests:

   • Erin Griffith, a technology reporter at The New York Times
   • Ezra Klein, a columnist and host of ‘The Ezra Klein Show’
   • Theodore Schleifer, a reporter for The New York Times covering billionaires and their impact on the world  

   Additional Reading:

   • Tech Billionaires Face Tricky Political Waters After Democratic Sweep
   • The Bell Tolls for Trumpism
   • The Republican Party’s Financial Advantage Wasn’t Enough in the 2026 Midterm Elections
   • SpaceX and Tesla Stocks Tumble After Elon Musk-Backed Candidates Lose in Texas

   • Sherrod Brown’s Win in Ohio Is a Rare Loss for Crypto Under Trump

      

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4. Are We in an A.I. Bubble? We're About to Find Out.

   30 de outubro de 202654 minEpisódio 219A seguir

   Monday gave us the release of Anthropic’s S-1 filing, providing the clearest view yet into the business side of the A.I. boom and setting the stage for what could be the largest initial public offering in …

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   Monday gave us the release of Anthropic’s S-1 filing, providing the clearest view yet into the business side of the A.I. boom and setting the stage for what could be the largest initial public offering in history. We’ll talk to Erin Griffith, who has been reporting on the story, about what it means for the company, the tech industry and the broader economy. Then we’re joined by the tech reporter Mike Isaac and the writer Jasmine Sun to break down the rest of this week’s tech news, including how the midterm elections next week could affect the future of tech policy, as well as the latest round of cybersecurity worries and Microsoft’s offer of buyouts to 60,000 employees.

   Guests:

   • Erin Griffith, a technology reporter at The New York Times
   • Mike Isaac, a technology reporter at The New York Times
   • Jasmine Sun, journalist and writer at jasmi.news 

   Additional Reading:

   • Anthropic Reveals Skyrocketing Growth and Spending Plans in I.P.O. Filing
   • What’s Riding on Anthropic’s Market Debut? Nearly Everything.
   • Anthropic’s I.P.O. Prospectus Spells Out a Future of Promise and Peril
   • Why Anger About Data Centers and Energy Prices May Not Swing Votes
   • What Is PHP? Why Are Government and Business Websites Going Offline?
   • Microsoft Offers Buyouts to 60,000 Employees as It Spends on A.I.

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5. What’s the Deal With Billy Evans? A Spoiler-Filled Guide to ‘You Can See Everything’

   23 de outubro de 202659 minEpisódio 218A seguir

   This week, we focus on Billy Evans, the breakout character of the documentary “You Can See Everything,” and his Theranos-esque new blood-testing start-up. Rob Copeland, a New York Times finance reporter, and …

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   This week, we focus on Billy Evans, the breakout character of the documentary “You Can See Everything,” and his Theranos-esque new blood-testing start-up. Rob Copeland, a New York Times finance reporter, and Erin Griffith, a tech reporter, join Max Read to discuss what Evans is like when the cameras are off, whether his start-up is a real company and how Silicon Valley is reacting to the film. Then, we break down CoreWeave’s debt, a possible SpaceX-Tesla merger and Joel Kaplan’s Meta exit. Finally, a returning guest: John Carreyrou joins us to answer listener questions about Elizabeth Holmes.

   Guests:

   • Erin Griffith, a technology reporter at The New York Times
   • Rob Copeland, a finance reporter at The New York Times
   • John Carreyrou, an investigative reporter at The New York Times and author of “Bad Blood”

   Additional Reading:

   • Elizabeth Holmes’s Partner Has a New Blood-Testing Start-Up
   • The Elizabeth Holmes Documentary, Through the Eyes of the Reporter Who Exposed Her
   • Weak Links Start to Show in A.I. Borrowing
   • SpaceX and Tesla Explore Merger to Create a De Facto Elon Inc.
   • Meta’s Global Policy Chief to Leave After 15 Years

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6. Why No One Can Look Away From Elizabeth Holmes

   16 de outubro de 20261 h 7 minEpisódio 217A seguir

   This week, there’s a new blockbuster Elizabeth Holmes documentary out, and we’ve assembled an expert panel to discuss the movie and what Holmes means to the tech world of today. Max Read is joined by John …

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   This week, there’s a new blockbuster Elizabeth Holmes documentary out, and we’ve assembled an expert panel to discuss the movie and what Holmes means to the tech world of today. Max Read is joined by John Carreyrou, who, through his investigative reporting for The Wall Street Journal and his book “Bad Blood,” revealed the fraud at the heart of Theranos; Erin Griffith, a tech reporter who extensively covered Holmes’s trail; and Caitlin Roper, the New York Times executive producer who wrote the first-ever magazine piece about Holmes for Wired back in 2013.

   We end with a rundown of what else is happening in tech news this week.

   Panelists:

   • Erin Griffith, a tech reporter for The New York Times.
   • John Carreyrou, author of “Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup” and an investigative reporter for The New York Times’s business section.
   • Caitlin Roper runs film, TV and books at The New York Times.

   Additional Reading:

   • ‘You Can See Everything’ Review: The Slippery Mind of Elizabeth Holmes
   • Elizabeth Holmes’s Partner Has a New Blood-Testing Start-Up
   • Elizabeth Holmes to Transfer to Halfway House in August 2027
   • F.B.I. Arrests OpenAI Employee Accused of Planting Bug in Office

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7. Anthropic’s Quest to Give A.I. Morals

   9 de outubro de 202644 minEpisódio 216A seguir

   This week, Max Read talks to the Times religion correspondent Elizabeth Dias, the tech reporter Erin Griffith and the opinion writer David Wallace-Wells about Anthropic’s private meetings with religious …

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   This week, Max Read talks to the Times religion correspondent Elizabeth Dias, the tech reporter Erin Griffith and the opinion writer David Wallace-Wells about Anthropic’s private meetings with religious scholars on A.I. consciousness and how to make Claude “good,” its differences with the Vatican and the new belief systems taking shape in Silicon Valley.

   Panelists:

   • Elizabeth Dias, national religion correspondent for The New York Times.
   • Erin Griffith, a tech reporter for The New York Times.
   • David Wallace-Wells, an opinion writer for The New York Times.

   Additional Reading:

   • Religious Scholars Met With Anthropic. What They Heard Stunned Them.
   • What Would You Do If Your Employer Could Destroy the World? Exit interviews with defectors from OpenAI, Anthropic and DeepMind.
   • I Quit OpenAI Because Its Culture Is Broken
      

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8. A.I. Agents: Cute, Cuddly and Maybe Catastrophically Dangerous?

   2 de outubro de 202653 minEpisódio 215A seguir

   This week, after months in which rogue agents have caused havoc across the internet, tech’s most powerful leaders joined President Trump at the White House to rebrand A.I. At the same time, two of the biggest …

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   This week, after months in which rogue agents have caused havoc across the internet, tech’s most powerful leaders joined President Trump at the White House to rebrand A.I. At the same time, two of the biggest companies in the field — OpenAI and Meta — released what they say are their most useful (and cutest) A.I. tools to date: personal assistants. To discuss it all, we’re joined by the Times tech reporters Mike Isaac, Erin Griffith and Eli Tan. We’ll discuss how things can be more dangerous and potentially more transformative than ever, and what it’s like to hand your life over to Meta’s Muse.

   Panelists:

   • Erin Griffith, a reporter for The New York Times who covers start-ups and venture capital.
   • Mike Isaac, a reporter for The New York Times who covers Silicon Valley and artificial intelligence companies.
   • Eli Tan, a reporter for The New York Times who covers Meta and the tech industry.

   Additional Reading:

   • ​​OpenAI Ignored Employees’ Warnings About Safely Testing A.I. Models
   • Who Attended Trump’s A.I. Luncheon, and Who Sat Where
   • F.T.C. Investigates OpenAI and Anthropic Over Potential Consumer Harms
   • I Gave My Life Over to Meta’s A.I. Agent and Was Blown Away
   • OpenAI Unveils Dots, New A.I. Agents to Rival Meta’s Muse
   • Anthropic's IPO prospectus shows sweeping AI vision, surging costs
   • How Meta Uses A.I. Data Centers to Avoid Billions in Federal Taxes

    

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9. What’s Next for ‘Hard Fork’?

   1 de outubro de 20262 minTrailerA seguir

   For the next few months on “Hard Fork,” join the guest host Max Read and an array of Times reporters and experts as we zoom out, catch up and try to understand both what’s happening inside the tech industry and …

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   For the next few months on “Hard Fork,” join the guest host Max Read and an array of Times reporters and experts as we zoom out, catch up and try to understand both what’s happening inside the tech industry and what tech is doing to all of us.

   Meet the Host

   Max Read has been writing about technology and the internet for more than a decade, most recently in his weekly newsletter, Read Max. His writing has appeared over the years in various publications with the words “New York” in the title, including New York magazine, The New York Times and The New York Times Magazine. He has also recently been dispensing workplace advice as everyone’s “Work Friend.”

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10. The Ezra Klein Show: Jensen Huang Thinks A.I. Alarmism Has Gone Too Far

    25 de setembro de 20261 h 48 minEpisódio 214A seguir

    In this episode, Ezra travels to Nvidia’s headquarters in Santa Clara, Calif., for a wide-ranging conversation with the chief executive Jensen Huang about the future of A.I. and why he thinks predictions of …

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    In this episode, Ezra travels to Nvidia’s headquarters in Santa Clara, Calif., for a wide-ranging conversation with the chief executive Jensen Huang about the future of A.I. and why he thinks predictions of imminent doom are overblown.

     

    Guests:

    Jensen Huang, chief executive of Nvidia

     

    Additional Reading:

    • A transcript and video of this episode can be found here.
    • America’s A.I. Leaders Warn U.N. of Possible Peril Absent a Global Response
    • Anthropic Releases a New A.I. Model, Opus 5.5, Amid Safety Debate
    • What to Know About Recent A.I. Hacks at Google, Anthropic, OpenAI and Meta
    • The A.I. Party House Where Networking Has a Dark Side
       

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11. A.I. Safety Goes Mainstream + a ‘Hard Fork’ Exit AMA

    18 de setembro de 20261 h 24 minEpisódio 213A seguir

    This week, we break down why everyone is suddenly talking about A.I. safety, why frontier A.I. companies are asking for regulation and why the Trump administration is rejecting them. And then, to close out this …

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    This week, we break down why everyone is suddenly talking about A.I. safety, why frontier A.I. companies are asking for regulation and why the Trump administration is rejecting them. And then, to close out this chapter of “Hard Fork,” we answer all your questions about the show, tech and what’s happening next.

     

    Additional Reading:

    • The A.I. Researcher Whose Rebellion Is Changing Everything
    • Top A.I. Leaders Call for Slowing Down A.I. Development
    • President Trump Is on the Line About an A.I. Slowdown
    • Mark Zuckerberg Takes Aim at Anthropic in Debate Over A.I. Slowdown
    • The ‘But China!’ Dilemma Driving the A.I. Race

     

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12. The Ezra Klein Show: The A.I. Revolt Is Here

    11 de setembro de 20261 h 20 minEpisódio 212A seguir

    The “Hard Fork” team is away this week. But while we’re away, we’re bringing you a recent episode of “The Ezra Klein Show.”In this episode, Ezra talks with the journalist Jasmine Sun about her recent reporting …

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    The “Hard Fork” team is away this week. But while we’re away, we’re bringing you a recent episode of “The Ezra Klein Show.”

    In this episode, Ezra talks with the journalist Jasmine Sun about her recent reporting trip through the Midwest, where she explored how the data center backlash is playing out on the ground.

    Ezra and Jasmine discuss the strange political coalitions that are coming together to oppose the A.I. infrastructure build out, and why people don’t believe what they’re being told about it.

     

    Guests:

    • Jasmine Sun, journalist and writer at jasmi.news

     

    Additional Reading:

    • No Data Centers In My Backyard
    • A transcript and video of this episode can be found here.
       

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13. The A.I. Mob That Attacked Hugging Face + METR’s Ajeya Cotra

    4 de setembro de 20261 h 19 minEpisódio 211A seguir

    This week, we’re diving into two new reports about the OpenAI-Hugging Face hack. We discuss what’s new and how they fundamentally change our understanding of what happened. Then we’re joined by Ajeya Cotra, one …

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    This week, we’re diving into two new reports about the OpenAI-Hugging Face hack. We discuss what’s new and how they fundamentally change our understanding of what happened. Then we’re joined by Ajeya Cotra, one of the investigators at METR, to discuss the rogue agents’ message board and chain-of-thought transcripts and how the world should respond.

    Guests:

    • Ajeya Cotra, co-author of the METR and Redwood Research report on the OpenAI-Hugging Face hack.

       

    Additional Reading:

    • Brief Independent Investigation of Agents’ Behavior, Reasoning and Collaboration in the OpenAI / Hugging Face Hacking Incident
    • The Hugging Face Attack Surprised Me
    • The Hugging Face Incident and the Road Ahead
    • Nvidia Buys Hugging Face in $12.9 Billion Deal

     

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14. Meta Shifts the Blame + Do Data Center Bans Work? + The Final HatGPT

    28 de agosto de 20261 h 3 minEpisódio 210A seguir

    This week, Meta agreed to pay up to $17.1 billion and make major changes to Facebook and Instagram over claims it endangered children with addictive social media platforms. We discuss why it capitulated and …

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    This week, Meta agreed to pay up to $17.1 billion and make major changes to Facebook and Instagram over claims it endangered children with addictive social media platforms. We discuss why it capitulated and what it means for the entire social media industry. Then, Princeton computer science professor Arvind Narayanan returns to offer his thoughts on why banning data centers won’t slow down A.I. progress. And finally, it’s all hats on deck for the final HatGPT.

    
    Guests:

    • Arvind Narayanan, professor of computer science at Princeton, and co-author of the “A.I. as Normal Technology” newsletter.

    
    Additional Reading:

    • Meta to Pay Up to $17.1 Billion in Landmark Settlement Over Social Media Addiction Claims
    • Mark Zuckerberg Wants to Make Sure His Competitors Share His Pain
    • Arvind Narayanan’s Post About A.I. Data Centers
    • Apple Vision Pro in Surgery: A New Paper
    • Rockstar Finally Breaks Its Silence Over The GTA 6 Leaks, Calls Them ‘Heartbreaking’
    • Amazon Delivery Drone Dumps Texas Woman’s Parcel Straight Into Her Swimming Pool
    • What if Your Texts Traveled as Slowly as a Carrier Pigeon?
    • A.I. Agents Are Turning Founders Into Insomniacs
    • What is a ‘Meat Proxy’? The New Term For Coworkers Who Blindly Share A.I. Output
    • Chinese Robot Tiangong Clocks Sub-9 second 100 Metres in Beijing
    • Inside OpenAI’s Reboot

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15. OpenAI’s Two-Week Pause + Jill Lepore on the Threat of the “Artificial State” + Train of Thought

    21 de agosto de 20261 h 3 minEpisódio 209A seguir

    This week, we learned that OpenAI had stopped training new artificial intelligence models while the company reviewed its security measures. Will this encourage other labs to hit the brakes too? Then, the …

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    This week, we learned that OpenAI had stopped training new artificial intelligence models while the company reviewed its security measures. Will this encourage other labs to hit the brakes too?

    Then, the historian Jill Lepore joins to discuss her new book about the artificial state — or, as she describes it, “the rule of humans by machines manufactured by corporations.”

    And finally, why is Google buying up the data of the defunct Spirit Airlines? It’s time for our new segment “Train of Thought.”

    Guests:

    • Jill Lepore, professor of history and law at Harvard University, staff writer at The New Yorker and author of the new book “The Rise and Fall of the Artificial State.”

    Additional Reading:

    • OpenAI Slows Model Training to Bolster Security After Hugging Face Hack
    • A Government for the People, but Not by People
    • Google to Buy Spirit Airlines Business Data for $10 Million
    • A.I.’s New Training Data: Your Old Work Slacks and Emails
    • We Tracked a Shipment of Rare Books. It Ended at an Amazon A.I. Training Facility.

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16. Zuckerberg’s Anti-Doom Fantasy + Finally an A.I. Detector That Works + A.I. Math

    14 de agosto de 20261 h 3 minEpisódio 208A seguir

    This week we’re talking about Mark Zuckerberg’s latest essay, “The Future Is for Everyone,” which outlines his positive new vision about the potential of A.I. But do we think it’s credible? Then, Pangram’s …

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    This week we’re talking about Mark Zuckerberg’s latest essay, “The Future Is for Everyone,” which outlines his positive new vision about the potential of A.I. But do we think it’s credible? Then, Pangram’s chief executive, Max Spero, joins us to talk about the breakout success of his A.I. slop detector. And finally, it’s time for our new segment all about math — we’re Running the Numbers.

    Guests:

    • Max Spero, chief executive of Pangram

    Additional Reading:

    • The Future Is for Everyone
    • Meta Unveils an Open Version of Its Most Powerful A.I. Model
    • Meta Ordered to Pay $567 Million in New Mexico Child Safety Case
    • Sick of A.I.-Generated Content? The ‘Slop Janitor’ Is Here to Help.
    • Learning more about Claude's mathematical capabilities
    • Airtable Acquisition Is ‘Kick in the Gut’ for Software Unicorns and Their Backers
    • The Dating Scene That’s Suddenly Dominated by Chip Nerds

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17. The White House’s Secret A.I. Rules + The State of Model Alignment With METR’s Chris Painter + The Final Hot Mess Express

    7 de agosto de 20261 h 5 minEpisódio 207A seguir

    This week, the White House announced a new framework for regulating A.I. models, but it isn’t letting the public read it. We break down what we know about the rules and what the implications are for the …

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    This week, the White House announced a new framework for regulating A.I. models, but it isn’t letting the public read it. We break down what we know about the rules and what the implications are for the industry and A.I. safety as a whole.

    Then, yet another report details new incidents in which A.I. agents have gone rogue. Chris Painter, the president of METR, an independent A.I. evaluation organization, joins to discuss how we get these models under control.

    And finally, we're hopping on the Hot Mess Express for the very last time. We’ll rate the craziest tech headlines from the week, including Google’s announcement that Demis Hassabis is stepping into a new role.

    Guests:

    • Chris Painter, president of METR.

    Additional Reading:

    • White House Readies A.I. Framework to Review Security Risks
    • Inside Trump's AI framework
    • How Do You Measure an A.I. Boom?
    • METR’s Frontier Risk Report
    • Google Shakes Up A.I. Leadership
    • Did an A.I. Music App Just Snitch on the Song of the Summer?
    • This AI Assistant Wants to Make Up for Your Boyfriend’s Incompetence
    • Google Earth’s AI deepfake tool only lasted one day
    • US government map of Africa mislabels every country at global conference
    • Contractor who built Colossus and Colossus II says Elon Musk owes him colossal amount of money

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18. Open Model Wars + Claire Stapleton's Dishy Google Memoir + Substack's Slop Fight

    31 de julho de 20261 h 7 minA seguir

    This week, we break down the arguments about open-weight models unfolding in Silicon Valley right now. Nvidia released an open letter signed by over 230 companies opposing “premature restrictions,” but will the …

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    This week, we break down the arguments about open-weight models unfolding in Silicon Valley right now. Nvidia released an open letter signed by over 230 companies opposing “premature restrictions,” but will the Trump administration listen?

    Then, we’re joined by the author Claire Stapleton to discuss her new book about what she learned while leading employee activism inside Google.

    And finally, can Substack stop the slop? We’ll talk about the platform’s new A.I. detector.

    Guests:

    • Claire Stapleton, author of “Don’t Be Evil: Bad Bosses, Fake Promises, and My Escape from Big Tech.”

    Additional Reading:

    • Nvidia Forms Alliance to Back Open-Source A.I. Amid Debate Over Safety
    • What Is Open-Weights A.I.?
    • Mark Zuckerberg Blasts Centralization of A.I. Power
    • The Voice of Google
    • Against Claudefishing

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19. OpenAI Models Go Rogue + Kimi K3 Freakout + A.I. Superforecasting

    24 de julho de 20261 h 8 minEpisódio 205A seguir

    This week, OpenAI reported that two of its models escaped their testing sandbox and launched an autonomous cyberattack, turning what sounds like science fiction into reality. We discuss the implications for …

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    This week, OpenAI reported that two of its models escaped their testing sandbox and launched an autonomous cyberattack, turning what sounds like science fiction into reality. We discuss the implications for efforts to align artificial intelligence and for the release of future A.I. models.

    Then, we ask how the United States should respond to Kimi K3, a new A.I. model from the Chinese company Moonshot AI that the White House says was built by distilling American models.

    Finally, we’re joined by Veniamin Veselovsky, the chief executive and a co-founder of Preseen, to discuss A.I. superforecasting. He tells us why A.I. is starting to match and even beat humans at predicting the future.

    Guest:

    • Veniamin Veselovsky, co-founder and chief executive of Preseen.

    Additional Reading:

    • OpenAI Says Its A.I. Models Went Rogue and Attacked a Digital Library
    • China Rewrites the ‘Soft Power’ Playbook for the A.I. Age
    • The Secret Trump Administration Battle to Fight Chinese A.I.
    • China Has a New Top Model
    • The A.I. Superforecasters Are Here

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20. The A.I. Trade Secrets War + Economists Say ‘We Must Act Now’ + HatGPT

    17 de julho de 20261 h 10 minEpisódio 204A seguir

    This week, feuding between some of the biggest tech companies spilled into public view. We discuss Apple’s accusation that OpenAI tried to steal secrets about Apple’s hardware business, as well as share our …

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    This week, feuding between some of the biggest tech companies spilled into public view. We discuss Apple’s accusation that OpenAI tried to steal secrets about Apple’s hardware business, as well as share our reactions about OpenAI’s new model, Sol, and Anthropic’s decision to extend access to its model Fable.

    Then, we unpack the loudest warning yet about A.I. and jobs. We talk with Erik Brynjolfsson, a Stanford economist, about a statement he helped organize that implores economists and A.I. researchers to “act now” to steer A.I. in a direction that complements humans.

    And finally, we play a round of HatGPT.

    Guest:

    • Erik Brynjolfsson, senior fellow at the Stanford Institute for Human-Centered A.I., and director of the Stanford Digital Economy Lab.

    Additional Reading:

    • Apple Sues OpenAI, Accusing It of Stealing Company Secrets
    • OpenAI’s First Device Will Be Movable, Screenless Speaker Built as A.I. Companion
    • Nearly 200 Economists and Tech Leaders Warn of A.I. Threats
    • The loudest warning about A.I. and jobs yet
    • OpenAI Is Showing Kalshi’s World Cup Odds in ChatGPT
    • New York Enacts Nation’s First Statewide Moratorium on Data Centers
    • Brown Professor Suspects Majority of His Class Used A.I. to Cheat
    • MiniMax CEO Vows to Forgo Salary Until Achieving A.G.I.
    • Lorde Speaks Out — With Expletives — Against A.I. Glasses
    • Nearly 6 in 10 Young Women Get Health and Wellness Information from Influencers
    • Meta Removes A.I. Feature on Instagram After Days of Backlash
      

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21. Do Social Media Bans Work? + A Conversation About A.I. Consciousness + Tool Time

    10 de julho de 20261 h 19 minEpisódio 201A seguir

    This week, with news that the U.S. Supreme Court declined to take up Texas’ age verification law for app stores, we check in on how social media bans are going around the globe and what may be coming soon to a …

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    This week, with news that the U.S. Supreme Court declined to take up Texas’ age verification law for app stores, we check in on how social media bans are going around the globe and what may be coming soon to a state near you. Then, we’re joined by Jeff Sebo, an associate professor at N.Y.U., to discuss new research into “A.I. welfare” and whether A.I. could ever become conscious. And finally, in our latest edition of Tool Time, we show each other some of the latest tech tools we’ve been experimenting with.

    Guest:

    • Jeff Sebo, associate professor and the director of the Center for Mind, Ethics, and Policy at N.Y.U.

    Additional Reading:

    • Why Social Media Bans Are Gaining Steam
    • Four in Five Under-16s in Australia Using Social Media Despite Ban, Study Shows
    • It Turns Out Banning Teens From Social Media Is Hard
    • Studying A.I. Welfare Empirically
    • A Global Workspace in Language Models

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22. Fable Ban Reversed + Dr. Dana Suskind on Parenting With A.I. + Prediction Market Drama

    3 de julho de 20261 h 7 minEpisódio 202A seguir

    This week, the Commerce Department lifted its restrictions on Anthropic’s powerful A.I. models, Claude Mythos and Claude Fable. We dissect why the government took such a hands-on approach in the first place …

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    This week, the Commerce Department lifted its restrictions on Anthropic’s powerful A.I. models, Claude Mythos and Claude Fable. We dissect why the government took such a hands-on approach in the first place, how the restriction on the OpenAI model GPT 5.6 is likely to resolve and what, if anything, this tells us about A.I. competition with China.

    Then, Dr. Dana Suskind, a pediatric surgeon and the author of the forthcoming book “Human Raised,” stops by to discuss a framework she has developed to help parents make informed decisions about what kinds of A.I. products are safe for children.

    And finally, we introduce a new segment about prediction markets: Against All Odds.

    
    Guest:

    • Dr. Dana Suskind, founder and co-director of the TMW Center for Early Learning + Public Health at the University of Chicago and author of the forthcoming book “Human Raised: Nurturing Connection, Curiosity and Lifelong Learning in the Age of A.I.”
      
      

    Additional Reading:

    • U.S. Lifts Restrictions on Anthropic’s Most Powerful A.I. Models
    • U.S. Bars Foreigners From Using Anthropic’s Most Advanced A.I. Models
    • Chinese A.I. Models Close the Gap With Anthropic and OpenAI
    • The Donk-ing of a Truth Machine
    • Mark Zuckerberg Directed Meta to Create a Prediction Markets App

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23. ‘The Daily’ and ‘The Opinions’: How A.I. Is Changing Loneliness and Taste

    26 de junho de 202660 minEpisódio 201A seguir

    This week, we’re bringing you two A.I.-related stories from our colleagues at The New York Times. First, Rachel Abrams, a host of “The Daily,” talks with the Times reporter Eli Saslow about a woman in a remote …

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    This week, we’re bringing you two A.I.-related stories from our colleagues at The New York Times.

    First, Rachel Abrams, a host of “The Daily,” talks with the Times reporter Eli Saslow about a woman in a remote part of Washington who is using an A.I. companion robot to keep her independence, and to keep her company.

    Then, the Times Opinion culture editor Nadja Spiegelman talks to the New Yorker writer Kyle Chayka and the journalist and critic Sophie Haigney. They get into the rise of “taste slop” and what happens to culture if the internet collapses into just a few chatbots that serve us everything.

    “Hard Fork” will be back with an original episode next week.

    Guests:

    • Eli Saslow, a reporter for The New York Times who writes in-depth stories about the impact of major national issues on people’s lives.
    • Kyle Chayka, staff writer at The New Yorker covering technology and online culture.
    • Sophie Haigney, a critic and journalist.

    
    Additional Reading:

    • Can A.I. Make People Feel Less Lonely?
    • What Silicon Valley Is Coming for Next

    
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24. ‘Hard Fork’ Live, Part 3: Differing Visions of an A.I. Future

    19 de junho de 202656 minEpisódio 200A seguir

    We’re back with our final installment from Hard Fork Live, recorded at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in San Francisco. In this episode, we’re joined by Sayash Kapoor and Daniel Kokotajlo to talk about …

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    We’re back with our final installment from Hard Fork Live, recorded at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in San Francisco. In this episode, we’re joined by Sayash Kapoor and Daniel Kokotajlo to talk about their differing visions of A.I. transformation: why Sayash thinks A.I. will diffuse throughout society like a “normal” technology, and why Daniel thinks an unprecedented acceleration is just around the corner. Then we’re joined by George Ekas from Toborlife AI, along with his dancing robot Toby. Finally, the podcaster Dwarkesh Patel drops by, and we take a few questions from the live audience.

    Guests:

    • Sayash Kapoor, an A.I. researcher at Princeton University and a co-author of the newsletter “AI as Normal Technology”
    • Daniel Kokotajlo, the executive director of the AI Futures Project and a co-author of “AI 2027”
    • George Ekas, the director of engineering at Toberlife AI
    • Dwarkesh Patel, a tech podcaster

    Additional Reading:

    • This A.I. Forecast Predicts Storms Ahead
    • AI as Normal Technology
    • Common Ground Between AI 2027 & AI as Normal Technology

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25. ‘Hard Fork’ Live, Part 2: Dylan Field on Standing Out in the A.I. Era

    17 de junho de 202631 minEpisódio 199A seguir

    We’re back with more from our live event at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in San Francisco. In this episode, we sit down with Dylan Field, a founder and the chief executive of the design company Figma …

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    We’re back with more from our live event at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in San Francisco. In this episode, we sit down with Dylan Field, a founder and the chief executive of the design company Figma, for what he describes as a “roller coaster” of a conversation. We cover everything from the company’s “Design Is Dead” campaign to the sudden resignation of the Anthropic executive Mike Krieger from Figma’s board. Then, we close things out with a special musical performance by eight wooden robotic dolls that make up the Teenage Engineering Choir.

    One quick correction to note: In our interview with Field, he makes reference to the SpaceX S-1 filing and misstates what the company says their addressable market for A.I. enterprise applications is. Field says “$22.9 trillion,” but the correct number from the SpaceX filing is $22.7 trillion. The decimal point makes it look small, but it’s a difference of $200 billion.

    We’ll be back on Friday with our final installment of “Hard Fork” Live.

    Guests:

    • Dylan Field, chief executive and co-founder of Figma.
    • Dan Powell, robot conductor, New York Times music composer and “Hard Fork” theme-song creator.
    • Teenage Engineering Choir

    Additional Reading:

    • This Start-Up’s $20 Billion Sale Died. It Came Fighting Back.

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26. ‘Hard Fork’ Live, Part 1: Satya Nadella and Cindy Cohn

    12 de junho de 20261 h 6 minEpisódio 198A seguir

    This week and next, we’re bringing you recordings from our second-ever live taping in San Francisco. First, we sit down with Microsoft’s chief executive, Satya Nadella, to hear what he’s maxing out his A.I …

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    This week and next, we’re bringing you recordings from our second-ever live taping in San Francisco. First, we sit down with Microsoft’s chief executive, Satya Nadella, to hear what he’s maxing out his A.I. tokens on, why he’s skeptical that software developers will ever be fully replaced, and how he’s hoping to create a new business model for Xbox. Then, Phil Mohun tells us what it has been like to watch people in the Bay Area interact with two robot dogs that wear the faces of Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg. And finally, we talk with the longtime privacy defender Cindy Cohn about where things stand in the fight to protect internet users from digital surveillance by Big Tech and the government.

    
    Guests:

    • Satya Nadella, chairman and chief executive of Microsoft.
    • Phil Mohun, executive director of Node.
    • Cindy Cohn, former executive director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation and author of “Privacy’s Defender: My Thirty-Year Fight Against Digital Surveillance.”

    
    Additional Reading:

    • Microsoft C.E.O. Satya Nadella Says, ‘Everyone Is a Stakeholder’ in A.I.
    • Node presents “Beeple: /Infinite_Loop”

    
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27. Hot I.P.O Summer + What Is A.I. Doing to Math? + HatGPT

    5 de junho de 20261 h 4 minEpisódio 197A seguir

    SpaceX, Anthropic and OpenAI are all racing to the public markets. We discuss what their I.P.O.s mean for the industry, charitable giving and anyone invested in an index fund. Then, more than 1,000 …

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    SpaceX, Anthropic and OpenAI are all racing to the public markets. We discuss what their I.P.O.s mean for the industry, charitable giving and anyone invested in an index fund. Then, more than 1,000 mathematicians signed a declaration this week raising concerns about the use of A.I. in their field. Author Kevin Hartnett joins to explain what the fuss is all about. And finally, we run through the biggest headlines of the week — including the new executive order on A.I. — in a round of HatGPT.

    Guest:

    • Kevin Hartnett, author of The Proof In the Code: How a Truth Machine is Transforming Math and AI

    
    Additional Reading:

    • Anthropic Files to Go Public, Setting Stage for Huge I.P.O.
    • As A.I. Makes Strides in Mathematics, Mathematicians Urge Caution
    • ​​An SF Startup Is Secretly Testing Robots in Airbnbs, and Trashing Them, Lawsuit Claims
    • Trump Signs Executive Order Seeking Oversight of A.I. Models
    • U.S. Is Said to Be Investigating George Santos Over Kalshi Betting
    • Hackers Simply Asked Meta AI to Give Them Access to High-Profile Instagram Accounts. It Worked
    • United Flight Forced to Turn Around Because of a Bluetooth Speaker Name
    • ‘Survivor’ Boss Jeff Probst Says Kalshi and Polymarket Are ‘Incentivizing People to Lie, Cheat and Steal’; Kalshi Is Now Considering Measures to Prevent Spoilers

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28. Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?

    29 de maio de 202659 minEpisódio 196A seguir

    The “Hard Fork” team is taking a break this week as we prepare for our upcoming live show in San Francisco. While we’re away, we’re bringing you a recent episode of “Interesting Times” with Ross Douthat that we …

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    The “Hard Fork” team is taking a break this week as we prepare for our upcoming live show in San Francisco.

    While we’re away, we’re bringing you a recent episode of “Interesting Times” with Ross Douthat that we really enjoyed.

    In this episode, Ross talks with Andrew Miller, writer of the transportation policy newsletter “Changing Lanes” and co-author of the book “The End of Driving.”

    Together, they explore the potential benefits of driverless cars — from fewer car crashes to reclaimed time and attention — as well as what could be lost if we don’t have to be in the driver’s seat anymore.

    
    Guest:

    • Andrew Miller, writer of the newsletter “Changing Lanes.”

    
    Additional Reading:

    • A full transcript and video of this episode can be found here.

    
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29. Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

    22 de maio de 202655 minEpisódio 195A seguir

    This week, we headed to Mountain View, Calif., for the annual developer event Google I/O. We share our reactions to Google’s biggest announcements, including a revamped search box, new agentic tools that …

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    This week, we headed to Mountain View, Calif., for the annual developer event Google I/O. We share our reactions to Google’s biggest announcements, including a revamped search box, new agentic tools that compete with OpenClaw and an updated flash model of Gemini that the company says is faster than competitors. Then, we ask Sundar Pichai, the company’s chief executive, how he’s responding to growing evidence that the public is souring on A.I., what advice he’d give to college grads frightened by the current job market and where the company stands relative to competitors in the A.I. race. Finally, we run through the other big tech headlines of the week in our segment System Update.

    
    Guest:

    • Sundar Pichai, chief executive of Google.

    
    Additional Reading:

    • Google Changes Its Search Box for the First Time in 25 Years
    • How Google Is Starting to Win the A.I. Race
    • Elon Musk Loses $150 Billion Suit Against OpenAI and Sam Altman
    • Before Mass Layoffs, Meta Reassigns 7,000 Workers to Focus on A.I.
    • Pope to Launch Encyclical on AI Alongside Anthropic Co-Founder
    • Was a Story That Just Won a Literary Prize A.I.-Generated?
    • Book on Truth in the Age of A.I. Contains Quotes Made Up by A.I.

    
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30. A.I. Safety Is So Back + Mythos Mayhem with Nikesh Arora + Hot Mess Express

    15 de maio de 20261 h 8 minEpisódio 194A seguir

    This week, between the president’s negotiations in China and a potential executive order, we discuss why the Trump administration seems to be changing its tune on A.I. safety. Then, Nikesh Arora, chief …

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    This week, between the president’s negotiations in China and a potential executive order, we discuss why the Trump administration seems to be changing its tune on A.I. safety. Then, Nikesh Arora, chief executive of Palo Alto Networks, the largest cybersecurity company in the world, gives us a firsthand account of where we stand in the race to secure the internet. And finally, we run through some of the wildest headlines of the week in a round of Hot Mess Express.

    
    Guest:

    • Nikesh Arora, chief executive and chairman of Palo Alto Networks.

    
    Additional Reading:

    • White House Considers Vetting A.I. Models Before They Are Released
    • Chief Executives to Accompany Trump to China
    • Is Anthropic’s New A.I. Really That Scary? It Depends Whom You Ask.
    • Venmo Finally Takes Privacy Seriously
    • Amazon Staff Use A.I. Tool for Unnecessary Tasks to Inflate Usage Scores
    • Graduates Boo Commencement Speech About A.I.
    • Dua Lipa Files $15 Million Suit Against Samsung for Using Her Face to Sell TVs
    • EBay Rejects GameStop’s $55 Billion Takeover Bid
    • Shein, Temu Trade Blows as UK Trial Spotlights Supply Chains
    • People Are Seriously Pissed That Grindr Outed Them With Its Latest Madonna Advert
    • Sam Altman Testifies That Elon Musk Wanted Control of OpenAI

    
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