Office Drama
- Episódios
- 59
- Publicação
- quinzenal
- Último episódio
- 2 nov 2026
Sobre o podcast
Welcome to ✨ Office Drama ✨ (formerly JOMO) - a work-culture talk show about the inner drama behind career breakthroughs. I'm Chloe Shih, a former tech product manager turned 2M+ followers creator, and I sit with people obsessed with what they do, learn about the lessons they wish they knew earlier, and reveal the drama within. We also have a monthly(ish) advice segment, Coworker Confessions, for viewers to anonymously share their work tea or situations to get a second opinion. Tune in on Mondays at 8 am PT on Spotify, YouTube, and Apple Podcasts! 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 - IG: @chloe.shih
Episódios 59
Why Millennials Can’t Stop Overthinking Their Careers | Co-Founder @ Runbook (Ex-Discord PM), Chris Ramesh
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How do you go from a soul-crushing finance career to actually liking your job... and somehow stay optimistic through all of it?
Chris Ramesh has had one of the most aggressively prestige-maxed career paths ever 😭 He started at Blackstone, moved into private equity, worked at Social Capital, became my PM coworker at Discord, and is now building his own AI startup. Somehow, through all of that, he is also one of the happiest people I know.
In this ep, we talk about:
→ what working at Blackstone and private equity was actually like
→ the career lesson he had to unlearn after leaving finance
→ why perfectionism can actually slow you down
→ how to actually "find your passion"
→ why Chris left his job to become a founder
→ how to actually deal with procrastination
→ the importance of optimism
→ the downside of living too much in your future self
→ what it’s like starting an AI company in 2026
→ why Chris thinks passion can develop through curiosity + persistence
→ and yes... the story of Chris trying to kiss his coworker 😭
Coworker Confessions:
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How Women Can Make F*ck You Wealth in 2026 ft. Jenny Park (Finance Creator & Brand Partnerships Lead)
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What does it actually look like to build wealth as a woman in 2026 ~ when you have a corporate career, a creator business, and more ways to make money than ever before?
Jenny didn’t leave corporate to become a creator... she built both at the same time, made six figures from content, and still genuinely loves having a job 😭 which makes her perspective on money, ambition, and the creator economy so interesting.
In this ep, we talk about:
→ why Jenny became a creator
→ why she still refuses to quit her corporate job
→ how she made $100K as a creator with only 60K followers
→ what actually makes brands want to work with you
→ why women feel guilty for wanting more money
→ how creators are making millions from online courses
→ whether selling a course is actually a “grift”
→ why white women tend to do well as influencers
→ how women are making crazy money in 2026
→ scarcity, competition, and representation in the Asian creator community
→ why women should feel empowered to build wealth
→ Find Jenny on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mohae.jennypark/
→ Find Jenny on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mohaewithjennypark
→ Find Jenny on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferkimpark/
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The Hottest Product Manager in Tech Right Now 🔥 OpenAI’s Holly Li Talks About Dots | Office Drama
How do you go from a self-described “nobody PM” to becoming one of the most talked-about product managers in Silicon Valley?Holly Li’s career is kind of insane. She started at Google, bought a one-way ticket to …
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How do you go from a self-described “nobody PM” to becoming one of the most talked-about product managers in Silicon Valley?
Holly Li’s career is kind of insane. She started at Google, bought a one-way ticket to San Francisco and convinced the team at Adept to create a PM role for her, became the founding PM of Figma Make, and is now building at OpenAI, where she famously launched Dots at OpenAI’s Dev Day.
In this ep, we talk about:
→ how Holly became one of the hottest PMs in tech
→ how she landed PM roles in AI
→ how she became the founding PM of Figma Make just weeks after joining
→ what the OpenAI interview process is actually like
→ what most candidates get wrong in interviews
→ what happened at her live demo during OpenAI Dev Day
→ how to become a better presenter on stage
→ why AI needs more women, creative people, and people with taste
→ what is Dots?
→ how Dots differentiates itself in the current “AI assistant race”
→ Find Holly on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hollyli2018
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The Human Cost of Convenience | Ex-VP @Yahoo! Srinija Srinivasan
We’ve spent decades making everything faster, easier, and more convenient, but what if we optimized away some of the things that actually make us human?Srinija Srinivasan is basically a founding mother of the …
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We’ve spent decades making everything faster, easier, and more convenient, but what if we optimized away some of the things that actually make us human?
Srinija Srinivasan is basically a founding mother of the internet. She was employee #5 at Yahoo, spent 15 years there as Editor-in-Chief and VP, helped shape how the early internet was organized, chaired the board of SFJAZZ, served on Stanford’s Board of Trustees, and later co-founded Loove, bringing technology and the arts together. And now, she’s building an entirely new kind of college.
In this ep, we talk about:
→ what it was really like helping build Yahoo! in the early internet
→ what makes the best business partnerships actually work
→ why imagination, creativity, and curiosity matter even more in the age of AI
→ why art is so hard to make money from
→ the human cost of optimizing everything for efficiency
→ why convenience might be the wrong North Star for technology
→ how we can build technology that makes us more human
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30 Years of Career Advice in 1 Hour | Deb Liu (CEO @Ancestry.com, VP of Product @Meta)
okay I need you to understand that this episode genuinely changed me 🥹✨Deb Liu is one of the most decorated women in tech. She spent 12 years at Facebook where she founded Facebook Marketplace, rose to VP, and …
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okay I need you to understand that this episode genuinely changed me 🥹✨
Deb Liu is one of the most decorated women in tech. She spent 12 years at Facebook where she founded Facebook Marketplace, rose to VP, and then became CEO of Ancestry.com. She has 4 million+ views on her Substack, she's a board member of Poshmark and Intuit. She is simply built different!
In this episode we get into:
→ how Facebook Marketplace launched and immediately got a New York Times headline about drugs, guns, and baby hedgehogs 💀
→ the invisible rules of power and influence that nobody tells you before you walk into a room
→ if work feels misaligned you might just need to be repotted 🪴
→ how to hold high standards as a leader without traumatizing everyone around you
→ when to persist, pivot, or quit (and why quitting is actually the first chapter of her new book)
→ why ambition without joy becomes brittle
this is the episode I have been wanting to make since I started Office Drama. Deb is one of those people who has an answer for every question because she has genuinely lived and reflected on such a variety of experiences in her life. This episode is true hopecore and Deb somehow makes you feel like everything is going to be okay 🥺
➔ Deb's Substack:
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborahliu
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The Secret to Being “Likable” at Work | Principal PM @ Microsoft, Ellie Rui
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Ellie Rui got promoted every single year of her career. Six years at Microsoft, from new grad PM to Principal, and now she's a beloved senior PM at Netflix. Her answer for how is simpler than you’d think: hard work doesn't paint the full picture. We get into what actually drives fast career growth, how one great manager changed the trajectory of her entire career, and how the PM landscape is changing faster than ever.
In this ep, we talk about:
→ how she got promoted every single year for six years
→ what a great manager actually does for your career
→ what separates junior, senior, and principal PMs
→ whether AI will actually replace PMs
→ why new grads should pick startups over big tech right now
→ and how to be likeable at work!
→ Find Ellie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellierui/
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We need to talk about the AI Brand trip situation... ft. Megan Lieu | Office Drama
Creators got CANCELED for attending an AI brand trip...and we're finally addressing it. 🫣Today, I have the privilege of hosting Megan Lieu (data science + tech creator) on Office Drama to uncover what really …
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Creators got CANCELED for attending an AI brand trip...and we're finally addressing it. 🫣
Today, I have the privilege of hosting Megan Lieu (data science + tech creator) on Office Drama to uncover what really went down on that trip and what it was actually like as a creator "getting canceled".
I've worked professionally in Trust & Safety. I'm passionate about tech ethics, creator industries, and how we all should work together. And I really hope we can actually have constructive conversations on this platform that may push cultural, product, and policy changes for the better.
It's very daunting as a female creator to address a situation like this, so I hope we can show up with empathy, curiosity, and constructive dialogue together. 🫶 Thank you for always making me feel safe to speak up.
In this ep, we talk about:
→ what actually happened on the brand trip
→ the video Megan posted and the moment she realized it was going sideways
→ how the press reaches out when they already know the angle they want
→ why this trip hit a nerve when other AI brand trips didn't
→ why the women creators took the brunt of the backlash
→ how brands and creators should actually give each other feedback
→ where tech creators sit between Silicon Valley's echo chamber and everyone else
→ Find Megan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meganlieu
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The Art of Being Tastefully Unhinged | Sr Director of Brand Marketing @Duolingo, Kat Chan
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Duolingo has become one of the most recognizable brands on the internet, but what does it *actually* take for a language-learning app to become a cultural phenomenon?
Katherine “Kat” Chan, Sr. Director of Marketing at Duolingo, has spent her career at the intersection of tech, culture, and creativity. Before helping turn Duo into the internet’s favorite unhinged owl, she worked at Red Bull, Tesla and Facebook, alongside some of the biggest names in tech like Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg.
And despite all of that, Kat has almost no digital footprint. She rarely does interviews, which made this a very rare chance to unpack how she actually thinks about creativity, taste, ambition, and building brands people genuinely care about.
In this ep, we talk about:
→ how Duolingo built a brand that moves at internet speed
→ why most companies can’t simply copy the Duolingo playbook
→ what “good taste” actually means and whether you can learn it
→ how Kat hires and identifies exceptional creative talent
→ where AI can make creatives better... and where it makes us dangerously average
→ what working at Tesla and Facebook taught her about prestige, burnout, and choosing the right environment
→ and the question I can’t stop thinking about before becoming a mom: can you actually have it all?
This episode is a masterclass in taste, creative leadership, internet culture, and building an ambitious career without letting ambition consume you.
→ Find Kat on Linkedin:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/yotsechan/
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My Honest Take on Motherhood vs Career (A Brutal Mid-year Reflection) | Office Drama
Half of 2026 is officially over... and I've never felt this behind in my career. 😅In today's episode of Office Drama, I'm doing my mid-year review out loud: what went wrong, what I'm scared of, and the 6 …
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Half of 2026 is officially over... and I've never felt this behind in my career. 😅
In today's episode of Office Drama, I'm doing my mid-year review out loud: what went wrong, what I'm scared of, and the 6 commitments I'm making so December-me doesn't have to go through the same existential disappointment.
Today, we talk about:
→ Why I felt so behind at the half-year mark of 2026
→ The motherhood penalty: how does it impact your career? 👀
→ A mutual creator who lost 10,000 followers overnight after announcing her pregnancy
→ "Would you rather be pregnant or successful?" and why I don't want to choose!
→ My 6 commitments I want us to try for the rest of 2026
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You Should Quit Being a Creator | @Tafokints NASA, Esports, Content, Tech
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We've heard time and time again about the burnt out tech employee who quits a stable job to chase the dream. This time we're exploring the reverse!
Daniel "Tafo" Lee has lived more careers than I can count on two hands. JPL engineer, coach to Melee god Mang0, Yahoo Esports show host, CLG General Manager, the internet's Tetris teacher, Web3 economist, Andreessen Horowitz, and now, at 37, starting over in big tech. He's no stranger to the creator economy and his honest take on who should actually pursue it might save you five years of your life.
In this ep, we talk about:
→ how he coached a Melee god while working full time at NASA JPL
→ the ultimatum from his wife that finally made him quit and move to Esports
→ why 90% of streamers won't make it, and why minimum wage might be the better option
→ betting on yourself at 37: relearning how to code from scratch in the AI era
→ and how becoming a dad made him reevaluate the value of his time
This episode is for anyone who's ever been told to follow their passion and quietly wondered if that advice is a trap. Tafo is proof that the real flex isn't dying on one hill but maybe knowing when to walk away towards the next one.
→ Find Tafo:
https://www.instagram.com/tafokints
https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellee912
https://x.com/tafokints
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We Went on MasterChef and Lost Our Minds | @igumdrop @AngelsKimi @AriaSaki | Office Drama EP8
Nobody tells you that when you get cast on MasterChef, you get to choose three people to fly out as your friends and family. Jaime ( @igumdrop ) chose Aria ( @AriaSaki ) , Kimi ( @AngelsKimi ) and I, and we …
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Nobody tells you that when you get cast on MasterChef, you get to choose three people to fly out as your friends and family. Jaime ( @igumdrop ) chose Aria ( @AriaSaki ) , Kimi ( @AngelsKimi ) and I, and we spent a week on set with NO phones, 7AM call times, and a front-row seat to watching her cook on the biggest stage of her life.
In this ep, we talk about:
→ why Jaime almost went alone
→ the mandolin accident that didn't make it to air
→ what Gordon Ramsay is ACTUALLY like
→ the moment Aria destroyed a MasterChef contestant
→ what traditional TV gets right that creators don't
→ why chasing perfection as a creator isn't sustainable
→ the narratives that get rewritten about women in gaming and streaming
→ Find Jaime:
https://www.youtube.com/@igumdrop
https://www.twitch.tv/igumdrop
https://www.instagram.com/igumdrop/
https://www.tiktok.com/@igumdrop
→ Find Aria:
https://www.youtube.com/@AriaSaki
https://www.twitch.tv/ariasaki
https://www.instagram.com/ariasaki/
https://www.tiktok.com/@ariasaki
→ Find Kimi:
https://www.youtube.com/@AngelsASMR
https://www.youtube.com/@AngelsKimi
https://www.twitch.tv/angelskimi/
https://www.instagram.com/angelskimi/
https://www.instagram.com/gentleflamestudio/
https://www.tiktok.com/@angelskimii
A huge thank you to the MasterChef production team for letting us share these stories!
#MasterChef #MasterChefGlobalGauntlet @MasterChefonFOX @FOXTV @FoodClubFOX
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The Truth About My MasterChef Debut | Jaime @iGumdrop (Home Chef, Streamer, 2M+ Creator)
Over the past decade, Jaime (@iGumdrop) has built a 2M+ following, founded her own successful clothing brand, dropped out of college to pursue streaming, and now she's on the cast of Season 16 of MasterChef!In …
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Over the past decade, Jaime (@iGumdrop) has built a 2M+ following, founded her own successful clothing brand, dropped out of college to pursue streaming, and now she's on the cast of Season 16 of MasterChef!
In this week's episode of Office Drama, we get into the version of the story you don't see on TV.
In this ep, we talk about:
→ why she almost said no to MasterChef
→ what it's like to be on the cast of MasterChef
→ the insane reality TV background check nobody warns you about
→ what Gordon Ramsay is ACTUALLY like in person
→ the roti canai controversy
→ the truth about agents, managers, and the people you work with as a creator
→ why "the interview never matters" and what she actually hires on
→ how she skipped the 5-year plan and went straight to a deathbed plan
This episode is for anyone who's ever been underestimated, boxed into one version of themselves, or scared to take the leap because they might look like a fool. Jaime is one of the most earnest, chaotic, hilarious people I know, and watching her bet on herself, publicly, after ten years of quietly putting in the work is exactly the kind of story I started this show to tell.
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The Life Lesson That Cost Her $1M | jasminericegirl, Head of Creators @Suno
Rosie Nguyen is the Head of Creators at Suno, the world's leading AI music company. Before that she co-founded Fanhouse, joined Cantina, and went viral more times than I can count. She's bright, passionate, and …
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Rosie Nguyen is the Head of Creators at Suno, the world's leading AI music company. Before that she co-founded Fanhouse, joined Cantina, and went viral more times than I can count. She's bright, passionate, and comes into this episode with so many wild stories and experiences.
In this ep, we talk about:
→ growing up on food stamps and supporting immigrant parents
→ getting demoted at her own company, then watching it get sold behind her back
→ the phone call that saved her life
→ going viral again and again and the attention that brings online
→ why her current era makes her prouder than raising $20 million ever did
This one is for anyone who's ever been underestimated, flattened into one dimension, or had to rebuild from zero. Rosie is one of the most earnest and hilarious people I know, and this convo originally went almost THREE hours.
→ Find Rosie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasminericegirl/
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I Quit My Dream Job to Start Over at 32...| @Elevenlabs Head of Partner Marketing, Sophia Noel
Sophia is one of my best friends, the officiant of my wedding, and one of the most cracked marketers I know. She's led campaigns at Airbnb, Databricks, and ElevenLabs. She won Best Dance Film at the LA Film …
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Sophia is one of my best friends, the officiant of my wedding, and one of the most cracked marketers I know. She's led campaigns at Airbnb, Databricks, and ElevenLabs. She won Best Dance Film at the LA Film Awards. She's also going through her biggest plot twist yet: leaving tech to pursue her art. Full time. For good. 🙂↕️
In this episode, we talk about:
→ why AI will never replace storytelling, taste, and human connection
→ her honest take on the job market, what 20-somethings are getting wrong, and what a great interview actually looks like
→ how she faced being belittled in by an interim CMO who said they need someone "more senior" when she led the campaign all along
This one is for anyone who has done everything right and still felt like they were playing it too safe. Sophia is the most elegant proof I know that the pivot you're scared of might be the one you were always supposed to make.
→ Find Sophia: https://www.instagram.com/sophianoel_
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I got laid off 2 years ago...Let's talk MONEY. 💸
It's been ~2 years since I've been laid off from my dream job at @Discord, and the most COMMON question you've asked me is: "Have you matched or beaten your tech salary after becoming a creator?"I never liked …
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It's been ~2 years since I've been laid off from my dream job at @Discord, and the most COMMON question you've asked me is: "Have you matched or beaten your tech salary after becoming a creator?"
I never liked this question because it's sincerely not apples to apples. I also dislike it when creators say "I made my corporate salary in 1 brand deal!!" Because there are SO many nuances, caveats, tradeoffs, and financial implications when choosing between both paths. But I finally break that down in today's episode of Office Drama.
Today, we get UNFILTERED and talk about:
→ How I overcame feeling like a failure after getting laid off
→ How I felt comparing myself to friends in tech/corporate
→ Whether my creator salary matched or beat my tech salary 👀
→ How pregnancy and family planning impacts everything
→ How I actually figured out how to pivot my career (with my Life PRD)
I really don't think these conversations can fit into a 1 min short form video or a 10 min YouTube video, so I hope you enjoy this real, brutally honest breakdown of what it was like going from tech to content to media.
p.s. please excuse the lighting changes in this one! 🫶
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I Quit My Dream Job to Take an "Adult Gap Year" ft. Julia Fei (Sr. Data Scientist at Notion)
I've seen a pattern of senior ICs deciding to quit to bet on themselves, but we rarely get to see what it took to get there.Julia Fei, Sr. Data Scientist at Notion (and my dear creator friend), just made her …
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I've seen a pattern of senior ICs deciding to quit to bet on themselves, but we rarely get to see what it took to get there.
Julia Fei, Sr. Data Scientist at Notion (and my dear creator friend), just made her decision to leave her dream job to pursue something she's always been curious about. But it was a calculated, deliberate decision that she spent years preparing for.
In this week's episode of Office Drama, we reveal the inner drama of Julia's thought process and the conversations she's had navigating the transition.
In this ep, we talk about:
→ why Julia quit Notion when she genuinely loved her team, her manager, and her job
→ how to know if you're actually growing or just getting comfortable
→ why "stability" is a scam
→ the double life of being a creator in tech
→ how to build a financial runway for the leap before you're ready to take it
→ and how to know when it's finally time to take a risk on yourself
This episode is for anyone who has done everything right and still felt like they were playing it too safe. Julia is one of the most calculated, self-aware people I know and watching her finally bet on herself after years of preparation is exactly the kind of story I started this show to tell.
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The “Anti-Hustle High Achiever” Mindset | Product Design Manager @Discord, Tobi Bisiriyu
My old Discord work bestie just got promoted *twice* in one year and I needed to know how he did it without losing himself in the process. Tobi Bisiriyu is a Product Design Manager at Discord and he's one of …
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My old Discord work bestie just got promoted *twice* in one year and I needed to know how he did it without losing himself in the process. Tobi Bisiriyu is a Product Design Manager at Discord and he's one of those rare people who is genuinely great at his job, actually likes it, and still makes work the least interesting thing about him. He cosplays, he goes to anime conventions, he walks one hour every day without exception, and he has a philosophy about life that I think more people in tech need to hear.
In this ep, we talk about:
→ Why looking competent is actually what's holding junior designers back
→ the "contract you write for yourself" and how to know if you're breaching it
→ why middle management is actually a "death" trap
→ say yes to the scary thing...before you talk yourself out of it.
→ being greedy "with integrity" and why it's good to want it all
→ and why getting a four in life matters more than getting one at work
This episode is for anyone who is good at their job but wonders if there's a version of success that doesn't require you to give everything else up. Tobi is one of the most intentional people I've ever worked with and somehow he got even more thoughtful since we last worked together.
→ Find Tobi on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobibisiriyu
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I Asked My Manager Why I Got Laid Off... | Principal Product Manager @Roblox, Derek Yang
It's been about 2 years and 3 mo since I was infamously laid off from my dream product manager job at Discord. And today, I finally sit with my old manager to talk about life after layoffs. Derek Yang is now a …
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It's been about 2 years and 3 mo since I was infamously laid off from my dream product manager job at Discord. And today, I finally sit with my old manager to talk about life after layoffs.
Derek Yang is now a Principal Product Manager at Roblox, and before that he was at YouTube, Twitch, Yik Yak, Facebook, and Discord where he was also my last ever corporate manager.
In this ep, we talk about:
→ What it actually means to "make it" in tech (spoiler: he still doesn't think he has)
→ the performance review that humbled him and forever changed
→ how he approaches his career
→ why working hard is not enough and what actually gets you recognized
→ what he gave up becoming a new dad
→ and why sustainability is his whole era right now
This episode is for anyone who has ever put their whole heart into their work and still felt like it wasn't enough. Derek is one of the most thoughtful people I know and I learned something new about him even after years of friendship.
→ Find Derek on LinkedIn:
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Welcome to "Office Drama" (Official Trailer) ✨
Welcome to my new show, Office Drama, where we sit with people obsessed with what they do, learn about the lessons they wish they knew earlier, and reveal the drama within. We interview people across tech …
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Welcome to my new show, Office Drama, where we sit with people obsessed with what they do, learn about the lessons they wish they knew earlier, and reveal the drama within.
We interview people across tech, media, and entertainment. We also have a monthly(ish) advice segment called "Coworker Confessions" where you can anonymously submit your work drama, stories, and situations for a second opinion.
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Check out Office Drama every Monday at 8am PT on Spotify, YouTube, and Apple Podcasts!
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Bonus Ep: Why Corporate Always Wins (And What To Do About It)
hii jomies!this is our ill-fated "fail episode." last year eric and i spent literally five hours on a sunday trying to film an episode about work resentment and burnout and every single take just sucked. we …
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hii jomies!
this is our ill-fated "fail episode." last year eric and i spent literally five hours on a sunday trying to film an episode about work resentment and burnout and every single take just sucked. we tried THREE times and failed every single time.
but we had some really good nuggets in there so we chopped it up and pulled out the best parts for you guys. it's kind of a hodgepodge of segments but honestly some of my fave convos came out of it! we talk about someone reaching out to me asking for advice on whistleblowing, dealing with power tripping managers, the weird guilt of going independent, and why we push ourselves so damn hard when we could actually just chill.
this episode is proof that not every recording session is a banger and sometimes you just gotta take the L and move on. but also!! the conversations were still valuable and i didn't want them to just... rot.
thank u for listening and for being part of this community, it means everything to us
love,chlo & eric
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The Best of Season 2 | JOMO
today, we're taking you for a ride through season 2! this season had some of our favorite moments ever, some really fun guests, reflective moments, and a whole lot of chaos we didn't see coming.here are all our …
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today, we're taking you for a ride through season 2! this season had some of our favorite moments ever, some really fun guests, reflective moments, and a whole lot of chaos we didn't see coming.
here are all our favorite moments in one place. thank you for being here for all of it, jomies... we love you!
– chloe & eric 💌
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The Best of Season 1 | JOMO
today, we're taking you back to season 1, where it all started!season 1 gave us SO much. here are all our favorite moments in one place. thank you for being there from the beginning jomies, we love you!– chloe …
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today, we're taking you back to season 1, where it all started!
season 1 gave us SO much. here are all our favorite moments in one place. thank you for being there from the beginning jomies, we love you!
– chloe & eric 💌
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This is *Actually* the Last Episode.
today, jomo is coming to an end. we get into what jomo has meant to us, why we're closing this chapter, and what's coming next. what a ride it's been! jomies, thank you sincerely for your support through the …
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today, jomo is coming to an end. we get into what jomo has meant to us, why we're closing this chapter, and what's coming next. what a ride it's been! jomies, thank you sincerely for your support through the years... we couldn't have done it without ya! love, chloe & eric 💌
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Confessions of “Highly Successful” People (Who Secretly Feel Like Failures)
today is all about failure. what it actually means, how to handle it, and why your relationship with it will determine how far you go.we get into the difference between failing in your 20s vs. your 30s, what it …
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today is all about failure. what it actually means, how to handle it, and why your relationship with it will determine how far you go.we get into the difference between failing in your 20s vs. your 30s, what it means to keep swinging for the home run every single time, and why AI is making hard work feel suddenly very fragile.if you catch L's and never know what to do with them... this one's for you.love, chloe & eric 💌p.s. we're so sorry about the wide cam being out of focus this episode!
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How You're Raised Determines Your Success ft. RJ Siu & Jalin Siu
today is all about family. the kind you're born into, the kind you build, and what it actually looks like to grow up, work, and create alongside the people who know you best. we sit down with RJ and Jalin Siu …
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today is all about family. the kind you're born into, the kind you build, and what it actually looks like to grow up, work, and create alongside the people who know you best. we sit down with RJ and Jalin Siu to talk about sibling dynamics, their content journey, creative dreams, and what it takes to turn your family into your team. if you've ever wondered what it would be like to do life with your siblings by your side... this one's for you. love, chloe & eric 💌
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The Subtle Art of Creating Your Own Luck
today is all about how to manufacture luck in your career and why it's less about chance and more about the moves you make *before* the moment arrives. we get into the five key ingredients to luck, the …
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today is all about how to manufacture luck in your career and why it's less about chance and more about the moves you make *before* the moment arrives. we get into the five key ingredients to luck, the behaviors that kill it, and how to stay motivated when you're doing everything right and nothing seems to be working yet. if you feel like things aren't always going your way... this one's for you. love, chloe & eric 💌
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Dating When You're "Too Successful" ft. Kristin Chen (Ex-CPO, Director of Product)
today is all about dating when you're a successful, ambitious woman... and why it's so much harder than it should be.kristin has some of the most insane dating lore we've ever heard. we're talking breakup …
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today is all about dating when you're a successful, ambitious woman... and why it's so much harder than it should be.kristin has some of the most insane dating lore we've ever heard. we're talking breakup contracts, rough conversations around net worth, a hawaii date that turned into a job interview, and so much more. it gets crazy. if you're someone who's ambitious and has ever wondered why the green flags always seem to fade... this one's for you. love, chloe & eric 💌
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The Great Millennial Career Crisis is Here. Here's What To Do.
today is all about the "millennial career crisis" — what it is, why so many of us are in it, and what we're actually supposed to do about it.we talked about the "dream" we were sold growing up, the moment you …
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today is all about the "millennial career crisis" — what it is, why so many of us are in it, and what we're actually supposed to do about it.we talked about the "dream" we were sold growing up, the moment you realize the corporate ladder might not be going anywhere good, and how to start building something that actually fits your life instead.if you've ever sat at your desk thinking "wait… is this just it?" — this one's for you.– chloe & eric 💌
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Don't Make a "Vision Board". Make THIS Instead in 2026.
today is all about vision boards, life quests, and two very different people trying to figure out what they actually want from the next year (or two). I show up with a full framework,and Eric shows up with his …
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today is all about vision boards, life quests, and two very different people trying to figure out what they actually want from the next year (or two). I show up with a full framework,and Eric shows up with his "vibes" and a two-year quest. We are not the same. If you've ever stared down a new year feeling the pressure to have it all figured out, or wondered what it looks like to actually build a life that feels like yours — this one's for you. love, chloe & eric 💌
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How Happiness Changes at 30: Comparing With Friends, Career Plot Twists, Dating Again...
this is our first real reflection of the current state of our 30s: friendship, comparison, dating, career.today, we talk about: • Why friendships feel deeper (and harder earned) in your 30s• The weird tension …
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this is our first real reflection of the current state of our 30s: friendship, comparison, dating, career.today, we talk about: • Why friendships feel deeper (and harder earned) in your 30s• The weird tension between success and comparison• Being ready to date again + reminiscing on old flames 🔥• Getting invited into “big rooms”… and still questioning everything• Our answers to the question: "are we actually happier now in our 30s?" love,chlo & eric
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