Unfamous with Justin Tranter

Paul McCartney can love your version of his song and still take 100% of the publishing. So how does any of this actually work?

In this Unfamous recap, co-creators Justin Tranter and Morgan Stuart revisit the biggest lessons from producer Bongo ByTheWay and songwriter/artist Ant Clemons, starting with Ant’s Paul McCartney story and a breakdown of the difference between samples and interpolations, when borrowing something familiar can increase a song’s chances of connecting, and when the publishing cost may no longer be worth it.

Then the conversation gets into the less-visible mechanics behind great creative work: why producing is as much about managing personalities as operating a computer, how Justin uses who / what / where / when / why to map lyrics, the melodic math he used while writing Chappell Roan’s “Good Luck, Babe!” and Justin Bieber’s “Sorry,” and why Bongo and Ant believe artist development still matters, from songwriting and performance to having a creative identity strong enough to survive success.

Chapters

0:00 Paul McCartney, Producer Psychology & the Rules Behind Hits0:42 Why the Behind-the-Scenes Creators Connected

1:52 Paul McCartney Took 100% of the Publishing

3:24 Sample vs. Interpolation: What You’re Actually Paying For

5:32 When Should You Kill an Interpolation?

7:46 The Producer’s Job Is Emotional, Too

11:58 The Song Map: Who, What, Where, When, Why

14:22 Why Structure Creates More Creative Freedom

15:22 The Melodic Math Behind “Good Luck, Babe!” and “Sorry”

19:26 What Music Is Missing: Artist Development

21:22 Singer-Songwriters Need Development Too

23:33 How Do You Prepare an Artist for Success?

Credits

Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter

Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart

Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart

Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart

Director: Morgan T. Stuart

Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary

Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri

Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha

Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, & Cory Jasin.

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The best-looking photo can still be the wrong cover. And one bad compromise can turn a bold creative idea beige.

The Hollywood Reporter’s Maer Roshan and Alison Edmond join Justin Tranter to reveal what actually happens behind some of Hollywood’s biggest covers—from Angelina Jolie asking them to redo an entire lighting setup after one shot, to orchestrating The White Lotus cast across two coasts and pulling together a Mikey Madison shoot the morning after her Oscar win.

They break down how a cover goes from an idea to the final image, what happens when talent or publicists push back, why the most beautiful photograph doesn’t always serve the story, and why great creative work can fall apart when too many people get a vote.

It’s a conversation about taste, trust, fighting for an idea, knowing when to defer to someone else’s expertise, and developing enough experience to stop second-guessing your own.

CHAPTERS

0:00 Why the Best Photo Can Still Lose

1:16 Meet The Hollywood Reporter’s Maer Roshan & Alison Edmond

7:31 How a Hollywood Reporter Cover Actually Gets Made

11:08 Why the Most Beautiful Photo Isn’t Always the Right One

13:21 Photographing a Controversial Celebrity Story

17:07 Why Celebrities Care So Much About Their Image

18:03 Angelina Jolie Made Them Change the Entire Lighting Setup

19:44 What Happens When the Talent Has a Bad Idea?

23:15 How Do You Avoid a PR-Controlled Interview?

27:16 The Insane Logistics Behind The White Lotus Cover

30:11 Shooting Mikey Madison the Morning After Her Oscar Win

32:08 How Do You Create an Iconic Image in the iPhone Era?

37:05 The Most Common Way a Great Idea Gets Ruined

38:47 Why Creativity Dies by Committee

40:17 How to Fight for a Great Idea Without Killing the Collaboration

44:39 How Alison Edmond Learned to Stop Doubting Her Taste

49:31 Their First Jobs in the Magazine Business

52:09 How They Spot Talent Before Everyone Else Does

54:16 Why a Print Cover Still Means Something

56:08 “Don’t Be Stupid”: Alison’s Path to British Vogue

59:28 Growing Up With Censored Magazines in Iran

1:00:46 Why “Manifesting” Still Requires an Obscene Amount of Work

1:03:08 The Prince Harry Cover That Got a Letter From the Palace

1:04:38 How The Hollywood Reporter Balances Print, Digital & Social

1:09:01 Gag or Drag: Celebrity Creative Directors, Publicists & Bad Covers

1:14:14 The Career Advice They Wish They’d Learned Earlier

CREDITS: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Luke Burland + 2BEntertainment.

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An Instagram DM became “Rush.” “Bloom” started with Troye Sivan thinking it wasn’t working. And after more than a decade of writing together, Troye and Leland are still trying to surprise themselves. On Unfamous, they break down their creative partnership, how Troye keeps evolving without repeating himself, the stories behind “Rush” and “Bloom,” imposter syndrome, writing for RuPaul’s Drag Race, and what makes the right collaborator click. Chapters are below so you can jump straight to your favorite parts. Chapters 0:00 Troye Sivan Introduces Leland 2:09 How Troye Sivan + Leland Met 6:27 Their First Song Together Ended Up With BTS 10:57 Why Troye Never Wants to Make the Same Album Twice 18:43 Why Songwriting Is Mostly Social Skills 22:10 How an Instagram DM Became “Rush” 26:57 Troye + Leland on Imposter Syndrome 29:46 Cirkut, Mark Ronson + Getting Nervous Around Your Heroes 32:34 How “Bloom” Went From “This Isn’t Working” to an Album Title 37:12 What 11 Years of Writing Together Teaches You 43:08 Writing Pop Hits vs. Writing for RuPaul’s Drag Race 47:33 Britney, Janet + the Pop Music That Changed Them 55:55 Why Great Artists Are Secretly Music Geeks 57:01 How Troye Keeps Evolving Without Forcing It 1:03:33 What Troye + Leland Would Tell Their Younger Selves 1:10:42 Gagged or Dragged: TikTok, Gay Icons + Pop Songwriting 1:16:31 The Best Advice for Creative Collaboration 1:18:52 Troye’s Advice to Songwriters: Not Every Collaboration Works Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Sherrae Rucker Special thanks to Mark Beaven and Jimmy Knehans Shout out to Leslie Tranter and Chloe Pappas on Patreon

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The Rescues spent five years writing The Lost Boys for Broadway. They wrote nearly 60 songs, rewrote lyrics again and again, cut a song they loved after watching it stop the show cold in front of an audience, and reached a point where they had to ask whether they could keep working together after it was over. Justin Tranter reunites with Kyler England, AG and Gabriel Mann to break down what actually went into creating the musical, and what happens when three longtime collaborators with completely different ways of working take on the hardest project they’ve ever made together. They also trace the unlikely path that got them there, from forming for a $500 wedding gig and landing five Grey’s Anatomy placements to building separate creative careers before The Lost Boys unexpectedly brought them back together. Plus: why they needed “band therapy,” how they learned which creative battles actually mattered, why a great song still might need to be cut, and what five years of rewrites taught them about trust, ego and letting the audience tell you what isn’t working. Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Wayne Wolfe, Hannah Wallace, and Nicolette Carcaldi.

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What happens when pushing through stops making you stronger and starts getting in the way of the art? Justin Tranter sits down with Rainbow Kitten Surprise's lead singer/songwriter Ela Melo and her partner and movement director Cat Cogliandro to unpack how movement, trust and recovery changed the way Ela and the band perform. They trace “Devil Like Me” from a homemade recording built with cardboard-box stomp claps to its live reinvention, revisit the 2022 Red Rocks performance that forced Ela to confront how far she had pushed herself, and talk honestly about sobriety, creative conflict and knowing when to ask for help. It’s a conversation about building a better show, but also a more sustainable way to keep making art without buying into the idea that suffering is what makes an artist great. Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Bailey Katler and 2BEntertainment.

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What makes a great song when everyone is trying to reverse-engineer hits, virality and the “right” way to be an artist? Justin Tranter sits down with friends and collaborators Sasha Alex Sloan and Amelia Moore, two artist-songwriters whose careers keep proving that some of the best creative decisions are the ones that look wrong on paper. They unpack how an imperfect choice became one of the most memorable parts of Camila Cabello’s “Never Be the Same,” why the “too complicated” riff in Amelia’s “See Through” became a TikTok singing challenge and helped lead to her second record deal, and what getting dropped taught both of them about failure, freedom and trying again. Plus: writing for other artists, the very different mechanics of K-pop, how to say no without killing a writing session, and why neither industry rejection nor industry praise can tell you who you are. Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Shaina Botwin, Sam French and Mady Davis.

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What makes one song perfect for a scene while another, even a great one, just doesn’t work? Justin Tranter sits down with music supervisor Julia Michels and songwriter, producer and arranger Alana Da Fonseca to break down the judgment behind the music in Pitch Perfect, The Devil Wears Prada, Wednesday, Off Campus and more. They get into testing whether “Toxic” would still connect with a younger audience, knowing instantly that KT Tunstall’s “Suddenly I See” belonged in The Devil Wears Prada, reinventing “Paint It Black” for cello, and why writing for screen means serving the story instead of protecting your song. Along the way, they unpack taking notes without ego, navigating directors and creative politics, and why the best song you’ve ever written can still be completely wrong for the moment. Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans and the Guild of Music Supervisors.

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How does a song actually make it into a hit TV show, and what makes the right placement capable of changing an artist’s career? Live from the GMS Conference, Justin Tranter sits down with Emmy-nominated music supervisors Amanda Krieg Thomas and Anna Romanoff to reveal the hidden process behind the music you hear on screen. They break down how Off Campus on Prime built its musical world from the scripts up, how artists like G Flip and The Beaches landed major moments, what it really takes to clear an iconic song, and why you can’t simply manufacture a viral soundtrack. They also share what songwriters need to understand about writing for film and TV, why the business side of creativity matters, and practical advice for anyone trying to break into music supervision: get close to the work, learn the craft, build your community, and don’t rush the process. Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans and the Guild of Music Supervisors.

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Bella Kay and songwriter-producer Alexis Idarose Kesselman break down the creative partnership behind Bella’s debut album, from meeting during one of Bella’s first-ever writing sessions to making “I Love It, I Love It, I Love It,” “Stop,” “Blur,” and “Karaoke.” They talk about learning the rules without losing what makes an artist unique, fighting for ideas, turning messy relationships into songs, handling criticism, and why the best collaborators make you feel even more like yourself. Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Lizbeth Alvarez, Priscilla Felten, Justin Frazier, Mandy Weiss, Cyndi Williams, Adam Mersel, Tracy Wasserman and Deborah Radel.

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Ruth B’s career exploded with her very first song. Then came the harder question: how do you do it again? Ruth and producer Cole MGN join Justin Tranter to unpack the pressure that followed “Lost Boy,” why “Dandelions” unexpectedly going viral five years later changed Ruth’s relationship with success, and how the two built her most personal album yet. They break down abandoning the songwriting-session treadmill, reinventing Ruth’s creative process, taking nearly two years to finish “Breathe,” and finally completing “Storm,” the Vine-era song fans had been asking for for a decade. Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Bobbie Gale + Nina Savio.

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Host and co-creator Justin Tranter and co-creator Morgan Stuart revisit their conversation with artist Valencia Grace and manager Kyle Stuart to unpack what it really takes to build an artist from the ground up. They break down why getting dropped can sometimes unlock the artist you were supposed to become, why the right manager needs to be genuinely obsessed with the work, and why virality, a record deal, or industry attention can never replace creative identity, trust, and a team that actually believes in you. Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Wendy Laister & Magus Entertainment.

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Bea Miller joins longtime collaborator Justin Tranter to unpack growing up as a child star, surviving The X Factor, and finding her confidence as a songwriter. They break down how real conversations about depression, relationships, insecurity and bad decisions became songs like “Feel Something,” “Drunk Enough,” “Depressed on the Internet,” and “Sex for Attention,” plus sexism in writing rooms, Paramore’s influence, and the new album marking her first in a decade. This episode is funny, brutally candid, and basically a masterclass in turning your worst experiences into very good pop songs. Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Tim Smith and Mike Powers.

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Unfamous host Justin Tranter and his co-creator Morgan Stuart revisit Justin’s conversation with Kid Cudi, unpacking what it reveals about trust, creative risk, criticism, and longevity. From the chaotic first session that helped unlock “Saltwater,” to Cudi pushing himself vocally, to “Pursuit of Happiness” becoming something bigger than its original meaning, this minisode looks at how great artists keep evolving without losing what makes them singular. Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Kasey Sobey and Sydnee Nanas.

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Unfamous host Justin Tranter is joined by his co-creator Morgan Stuart to revisit their episode with comedian, actor, and writer Caleb Hearon and TV writer Caitie Delaney, whose credits include Big Mouth and Rick and Morty. Together, they unpack what Caleb and Caitie’s creative partnership reveals about writer room dynamics, ego, executive notes, knowing when to push back, and why the best collaborators care more about the work than getting credit. Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Caleb Hearon, Caitie Delaney, Jimmy Knehans, Mark Beaven and Michelle Kariuki

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A hit isn't just a great song. Wendy Goldstein breaks down the decisions that shaped career-defining moments for The Roots, DNCE and Ariana Grande. Republic Records Chairwoman and CCO Wendy Goldstein joins Justin Tranter to break down how she evaluates artists, songs and collaborators: why personal taste isn't the job, what the first five seconds of a record need to accomplish, why a recognizable identity matters more than chasing trends, why she prefers small core teams and why timing can matter as much as the record itself. Through stories about signing The Roots, building DNCE with Joe Jonas, Ariana Grande's decisiveness during the thank u, next era and decades spent studying the records that came before her, Wendy explains what great A&R actually looks like when the goal is not simply making one hit, but building a career that lasts. The conversation also gets personal as Wendy reflects on going through cancer during the biggest year of her career, why making records became a source of joy during treatment, why executives sometimes have to protect the creative relationship from the business, and what she does when a record she believed was a hit simply doesn't work. Wendy Goldstein is Chairwoman and Chief Creative Officer of Republic Records. Her A&R career has included work with artists including Ariana Grande, The Weeknd, Nicki Minaj, the Jonas Brothers and The Roots. Unfamous with Justin Tranter goes behind the decisions, false starts, breakthroughs and collaborations that shape the work we love. Chapters 0:00 Inside Wendy Goldstein's A&R Playbook 2:15 How a Teenage Club DJ Found Her Way Into A&R 7:23 What an A&R Actually Does 10:38 When Data Helps and When Instinct Has to Take Over 14:06 Why Personal Taste Isn't the Job 17:12 Signing The Roots and Finding the Hit They Needed 21:18 The “Superpower” Wendy Saw in Joe Jonas 24:48 Why Knowing Old Records Helps You Make New Ones 31:24 What Artists Do That Actually Hurts Their Chances of Getting Signed 33:42 When to Wait, Pivot or Move Fast on an Artist 34:36 How Ariana Grande Turned Around “thank u, next” Overnight 39:04 Why Chasing Too Many Sounds Can Hurt an Artist's Career 40:39 Why Two Producers Can Be Better Than Ten 46:09 The Collaborator Red Flags Wendy Notices Immediately 48:09 Why You Never Force the Art to Meet a Deadline 52:59 Why Creative and Executive Roles Can Collide 56:29 Would David Bowie Break in the Social Media Era? 59:47 Cancer, Creativity and the Biggest Year of Wendy's Career 1:04:17 The Relationship Skill Every Great A&R Needs 1:07:36 What Wendy Does When a “Hit” Doesn't Hit Credits Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Luke Nichols, Joe Carozza and Beau Benton.

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Claire Rosinkranz and Ragnar Rosinkranz join Justin Tranter for a funny, intimate, and deeply honest conversation about making music as father and daughter. They look back on the musical home that shaped Claire, the unexpected rise of “Backyard Boy,” and what it felt like to have a viral breakout at 16 before fully understanding the scale of it. But this episode is not just about one song. Claire also opens up about the pressure that followed, performing for audiences that are not always hers, returning to music after a serious health crisis, and chasing the raw honesty behind her latest songs. For artists, collaborators, and anyone building something creative, this conversation offers a rare look at trust in the studio and why the safest collaborations can bring out the most honest art. Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Bobbie Gale and Nina Savio.

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Singer-songwriter Emei joins Grammy-winning producer, songwriter and Nice Life founder Ricky Reed for a conversation about the creative partnership behind her latest project, Night at the Opera, and what it really takes to build a lasting career. Together with Justin Tranter, they unpack how Ricky discovered Emei, why one radically honest conversation became the foundation of their collaboration, and how trust, vulnerability, and creative honesty shaped both the music and the artist behind it. They discuss songwriting, artist development, overcoming creative blocks, balancing artistry with content creation, building a devoted fan community, writing through grief, surviving rejection, and why patience often matters more than speed. Whether you're an artist, songwriter, creative, entrepreneur, or simply curious how great work actually gets made, this episode is an honest look at collaboration, resilience, and the long game of building something meaningful. Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Amanda Montgomery and Steven Sparrow.

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Nick Jonas recorded “Chains.” Two days later, he wrote “Jealous.” It was the breakthrough week that helped redefine his career. With longtime collaborator Justin Tranter, Nick reveals what came before it: being underestimated as a Jonas Brother and Disney star, the fear of rejection that kept the band from reaching outside their circle, and the collaborators who helped him find a new creative identity. They also unpack the untold story connecting “Close” to Julia Michaels becoming an artist, why Nick initially underestimated “Cake by the Ocean,” the “math” behind his songwriting process, returning to Disney as an adult, and what growing up in public taught him about creativity and collaboration. Time Chapter 00:00 Preview 00:58 How “Close” Helped Redefine Nick Jonas’ Sound 04:11 The “Close” Story That Helped Push Julia Michaels to Become an Artist 05:59 What Makes Nick Want to Work With a Collaborator Again 09:18 Trying to Prove He Was More Than a Disney Star 16:02 “Chains” and “Jealous” Changed Everything in One Week 20:58 Why Even Hitmakers Can’t Predict a Hit 26:31 What Keeps Nick Jonas Creating 28:40 Why the Jonas Brothers Went Back to Disney 34:16 How Disney Gave Them More Creative Freedom Than Expected 36:46 What Happens When You Accidentally Write Someone Else’s Melody 44:01 Nick Jonas’ Obsession With the “Math” of Songwriting 50:06 Family, Priyanka + Life Outside the Work 53:53 What It’s Like Watching Yourself Grow Up on Camera 57:17 Gag or Drag 1:05:47 What People Get Wrong About Growing Up Famous 1:07:44 Nick Jonas’ Best Advice on Collaboration Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Christopher Young, Holly Farr, Alexis Spangler, Greg Garbowsky and Jeff Raymond.

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Rose Gray joins Justin Tranter for a conversation about songwriting, collaboration, and the creative journey behind her latest single, "Club to Your Arms." A Critics Choice Brit Award nominee and one of the most exciting voices in modern pop, Rose shares how she built a devoted fanbase through relentless touring, emotional honesty, and a clear artistic vision long before any viral breakthrough arrived. Together, she and Justin unpack their years-long creative partnership, the evolution of Rose's sound, and the story behind one of her most personal songs yet. They discuss the balance between euphoric dance music and raw storytelling, the lessons that come from performing live, finding confidence as an artist, and why trusting your instincts is often the key to making great work. Whether you're an artist, songwriter, creative, or simply someone chasing a dream, this episode offers an honest look at building a career, finding your voice, and creating art that connects. Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Carimei Smith, Matt Luxon, Bryan Kehn and Veronica Sanjines.

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Katy Perry, Christian Breslauer and Justin Tranter make bold, emotionally driven work. But more importantly, they know what it means to feel something fully and still let it be seen. In this episode of Unfamous, Katy sits down with Justin to talk about their songwriting collaboration on “Band-Aids” and “Watch It Burn” (out 6/25), and how those songs came from a place of vulnerability, intention, and emotional truth. She talks about fear. About anger she had to let herself touch. About the line between what stays with her and what becomes a song. Then Christian joins to follow that feeling into the visuals. How something heard becomes something you can see. How trust shapes what survives. It’s about songwriting, visual storytelling, and staying open long enough to make something honest. And if you’re building anything creative, it offers a real look at how to trust your instincts, work through resistance, and collaborate without losing your voice. If you love pop culture, music, and the real process behind how things get made, this one’s for you. Follow, subscribe, like and comment wherever you watch and listen. Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Ngoc Hoang-DelVecchio, Bradford Cobb, Cynthia Parkhurst, Rick Henry, and Chloe Forbes. Shout out to Chloe Pappas and Leslie on Patreon.

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Skylar Grey and Elliott Taylor collaborate on making music. But more importantly, they’ve built a creative life together. In this episode of Unfamous, Skylar opens up about writing Love The Way You Lie for Eminem and Rihanna alone in a cabin in the woods with no internet, how emotional burnout shaped her new album Wasted Potential, and why some of the darkest creative moments often lead to breakthrough art. If you love songwriting, creative process, and honest conversations about burnout, ambition, collaboration, and emotional honesty, this episode is for you. Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Maria Eilert & Jenisse Sanches.

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Bongo ByTheWay and Ant Clemons break down the creative chemistry that turned their first session into 11 songs in a single day and eventually led to collaborations with artists like Justin Timberlake, Kanye West, Beyoncé, and more. The conversation dives into songwriting “math,” artist development, ego-free collaboration, surviving the music industry, and why emotional intelligence matters just as much as talent. They also talk about sleeping on floors before breakthrough moments, navigating publishing and samples, learning when to say no, and how trust and repetition sharpen great collaborators over time. Watch on Spotify. Subscribe to Spotify for no ads. Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, & Cory Jasin.

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Linda Perry, the songwriter and producer behind songs like Christina Aguilera's “Beautiful” and Four Non Blondes’ “What’s Up?” joins Unfamous alongside documentary filmmaker Don Hardy to talk about the deeply personal documentary about Linda’s life and creative evolution. The episode explores Linda’s journey through music, collaboration, grief, cancer, vulnerability, and emotional honesty while unpacking what happens when an artist allows themselves to be documented in the middle of real life instead of after the story is neatly finished. It’s a raw conversation about creativity, trust, survival, and the power of letting people see the parts of yourself you usually try to hide. Follow, subscribe, like and comment wherever you watch and listen. Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, and Lauren Mele.

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Valencia Grace and manager Kyle Stuart break down what it actually takes to build an artist from the ground up. From getting dropped by a label and rebuilding independently to shaping a theatrical “pop opera” identity in real time, the episode explores the creative and strategic partnership behind an emerging artist’s career. They talk about how to find the right collaborators, what makes artist-manager chemistry work, balancing creative instinct with rollout strategy, navigating budgets and industry gatekeepers, and why building a strong creative community changes everything. Valencia also opens up about learning to lean into her individuality instead of chasing trends, while Kyle shares the realities of developing a new artist versus managing established acts like Duran Duran. Watch on Spotify. Subscribe to Spotify for no ads. Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Wendy Laister & Magus Entertainment.

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Valencia Grace performs a live rendition of “Picture Frames” on this special episode of Unfamous. Stripped down to just voice and piano, the performance highlights the theatrical emotion, intimacy, and storytelling at the core of Valencia’s artistry. Follow, subscribe, like and comment if you love to watch and listen. Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Wendy Laister & Magus Entertainment.

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Valencia Grace performs a live rendition of “Picture Frames” on this special episode of Unfamous. Stripped down to just voice and piano, the performance highlights the theatrical emotion, intimacy, and storytelling at the core of Valencia’s artistry. Follow, subscribe, like and comment if you love to watch and listen. Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Wendy Laister & Magus Entertainment.

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Yadim Carranza and Darian Darling shape beauty culture from behind the scenes. But more importantly, they’ve spent years helping each other survive and evolve through nightlife, fashion, addiction, transphobia, and the chaos of creative ambition. In this episode, the longtime friends and collaborators join Justin Tranter to talk about going from MAC counters and tiny New York apartments to influencing global beauty trends. They unpack the hidden artistry behind face charts, Fashion Week, celebrity makeup, and queer nightlife, while reflecting on the realities of building careers in industries that often celebrate queer creatives publicly while sidelining them behind the scenes. The conversation moves from hilarious downtown stories and Madonna obsession to deeper conversations about confidence, identity, sobriety, and learning not to tie your self-worth entirely to your work. Follow, subscribe, like and comment wherever you watch and listen. Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Sherrae Rucker Special thanks to Mark Beavan and Jimmy Knehans. Shout out to Chloe Pappas and Leslie on Patreon.

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On this episode of Unfamous, Justin Tranter sits down with pop icon Debbie Gibson for a candid conversation about songwriting, producing, and building a career before adulthood. Debbie breaks down how she taught herself production, became the youngest artist ever to write, produce, and perform a Billboard Hot 100 #1, and learned to protect her creative vision in an industry that constantly underestimated her. The two also dive into collaboration, family dynamics in business, artistic reinvention, and what it takes to survive and evolve in pop music for decades. Funny, emotional, and full of behind the scenes music stories, this episode is a masterclass in ambition, resilience, and creative trust.

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Credits:

Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter

Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart

Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart

Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart

Director: Morgan T. Stuart

Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary

Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri

Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha

Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, and Heather Moore.

Shout out to Chloe Pappas and Leslie on Patreon.

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Grace VanderWaal and Eren Cannata make work that feels raw but intentional. More importantly, they know how to keep the energy in the room alive long enough for the right idea to land. In this episode of Unfamous, they talk about building Childstar and the creative rhythm Grace and Eren found together. Grace reflects on starting sessions as young as 12 and how writing gave her a way to say things in her own personal way, and how that evolved into a more instinctive, collaborative process with Eren now. They get into protecting the vibe, letting ideas evolve, and trusting the moments that arrive on their own. It is about collaboration, instinct, and making something honest without forcing it. Credits: Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart

Director: Morgan T. Stuart Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri Camera Assistant: Sherrae Rucker Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Brad Cohen, Jamie Sward, Lauryn Caldwell, Alana Aquino, Alexandra Baker and Uriah Tejada. Shout out to Chloe Pappas and Leslie on Patreon.

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MUNA makes emotionally sharp, collaborative work that holds because they know how to stay in it long enough to figure out what a song actually needs.

In this episode of Unfamous, host Justin Tranter sits down with MUNA to talk about building a band as a long-term collaboration and what it’s taken to evolve together while working on their upcoming album, which Justin also co-wrote on. They get into creative tension, letting go of ideas, trusting each other’s instincts, and how honesty in the room shapes the final work. It’s about collaboration, communication, and making something real without forcing it.

If you love music, creativity, and understanding how collaboration actually works behind the scenes, this one’s for you. Follow, subscribe, like and comment wherever you watch and listen.

Credits:

Unfamous is hosted by Justin Tranter

Created by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart

Produced by Justin Tranter & Morgan T. Stuart

Written & Researched by Morgan T. Stuart

Director: Morgan T. Stuart

Co-Director + Cinematographer: Olivia McCrary

Audio Engineer: Mike Sabri

Camera Assistant: Kolbi Samantha

Special thanks to Mark Beavan, Jimmy Knehans, Heather Kolker, Megan Manowitz, Jordan Shepley, and Anna Ross. Shout out to Chloe Pappas and Leslie on Patreon.

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