You’re Gonna Want To Hear This
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Nicole Stott Spent 104 Days in Space. But Never Planned to be an Astronaut
Nicole Stott has spent her life exploring. A former NASA astronaut, aerospace engineer, artist, author and OMEGA ambassador, Nicole has completed two spaceflights, a spacewalk, spent 104 days living aboard the …
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Nicole Stott has spent her life exploring.
A former NASA astronaut, aerospace engineer, artist, author and OMEGA ambassador, Nicole has completed two spaceflights, a spacewalk, spent 104 days living aboard the International Space Station and even trained by living underwater for nearly three weeks in NASA's Aquarius habitat.
But Nicole's journey into space began much closer to Earth.
After losing her father in a small plane crash as a child, she became fascinated by flying, engineering and understanding how things work. That curiosity eventually led her to NASA, where she spent more than a decade working as an engineer before being selected as an astronaut.
In this episode, Helen Smith sits down with Nicole for a conversation about curiosity, resilience, creativity, teamwork and the perspective-shifting experience of seeing Earth from space.
Nicole reflects on the moment she first looked out the window of the International Space Station, why astronauts train underwater, the psychological realities of living in extreme environments, and how viewing Earth from orbit changed the way she thinks about humanity.
She also shares why she believes creativity and science belong together, how she became the first person to create a watercolor painting in space, and why that experience eventually inspired her to launch the Space for Art Foundation, helping children in hospitals, refugee centres and vulnerable communities use art as a tool for connection and hope.
At its heart, this is a conversation about perspective and the belief that we're all connected by the same thin blue line of atmosphere surrounding our planet.
This episode covers:
- Nicole's childhood and early fascination with flying
- The impact of losing her father in a plane crash
- Following a path from engineering to NASA
- Becoming an astronaut after working behind the scenes at NASA
- Living underwater as preparation for spaceflight
- Teamwork and leadership in extreme environments
- The "Here's How We Can" mindset
- Life aboard the International Space Station
- What it feels like to see Earth from space for the first time
- Why astronauts become obsessed with watching Earth from the window
- Experiencing 16 sunrises and sunsets every day
- Painting the first watercolor in space
- Why creativity and science belong together
- The role of art in wellbeing and human connection
- Founding the Space for Art Foundation
- Working with children in hospitals, refugee centres and vulnerable communities
- The importance of curiosity throughout life
- The future of commercial space exploration and returning to the Moon, plus the journey to Mars
- Why Nicole believes we're all crewmates on a planetary spaceship
Check out the Space For Art Foundation here
Learn more about OMEGA's Space Legacy here
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Credits:
Host Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt and Helen Smith
Supervising Producer Helen Smith
Edited By Helen Smith
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
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Jazz Thornton’s Stalker Travelled 18,000km to Find Her
CONTENT WARNING: This episode covers suicide and stalking. In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence support. Jazz …
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CONTENT WARNING: This episode covers suicide and stalking. In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence support.
Jazz Thornton has spent years turning some of life’s hardest conversations into stories of hope. An award-winning filmmaker, author, speaker and mental health advocate, and co-founder of Voices of Hope, she has built a career around talking openly about mental illness, suicide, trauma and recovery and showing people that a way forward is possible.
But more recently, Jazz found herself telling a very different kind of story.
Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt sits down with Jazz for a deeply personal conversation about stalking, trauma, mental health, safety and the complicated reality of turning your most painful experiences into a public story.
Her new documentary series, Stalked, explores what happens when online attention crosses a line into obsession, control and fear. After experiencing stalking herself, Jazz was forced to confront what it means to lose your sense of safety and how quickly the digital access we give people can become something much more dangerous.
Jazz opens up about the moment she realised her stalker had travelled 18,000 kilometres to find her, the fear and hypervigilance that followed, and the safety measures she and those around her had to put in place. She talks about why stalking is so often minimised until it becomes dangerous, how social media can blur the boundaries between public access and personal privacy, and what she wishes she had known about online safety before her own experience.
She also reflects on the experiences that shaped her long before stalking entered her life childhood trauma, bullying, severe mental illness and multiple suicide attempts and the people who helped her find a way through. She talks about co-founding Voices of Hope, her work with young people, and the power of storytelling to make people feel less alone.
This episode covers:
- Jazz's experience of severe mental illness and recovery
- Childhood trauma, bullying and mental health
- Her experiences with suicidal thoughts and suicide attempts
- The people who helped Jazz find a way through
- Co-founding Voices of Hope
- The power of storytelling in mental health advocacy
- Her experience of being stalked
- The moment her stalker travelled 18,000 kilometres to find her
- The psychological impact of losing your sense of safety
- Stalking in the digital age, with social media, privacy and online safety
- Why stalking is often minimised
- The making of Stalked
- Becoming publicly identified with your trauma
- Speaking out and advocating for change
- Recovery, resilience and finding hope
- Why telling your story can help someone else feel less alone
If this conversation raises issues for you, support is available.
In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence support, or Blue Knot Foundation on 1300 657 380 for support around complex trauma and childhood trauma.
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Credits:
Host Georgie McCourt
Edited by Helen Smith
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
You're Gonna Want to Hear This is a production of Marie Claire and Are Media https://www.marieclaire.com.au/life/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this-podcast/
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Sophie Monk on Love Island, Meeting Her Husband Mid-Flight & Learning to Love Herself
Sophie Monk met her husband, Josh, on a 16-hour flight home from filming the first season of Love Island Australia. Three hours in, she asked if he was single. This year she hosts her eighth season, from the …
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Sophie Monk met her husband, Josh, on a 16-hour flight home from filming the first season of Love Island Australia. Three hours in, she asked if he was single.
This year she hosts her eighth season, from the Love Island USA villa in Fiji. She talks openly about insecurity, anxious attachment and the self-sabotage that kicks in when a relationship feels too good to be true. She also has a Love Island secret she isn’t allowed to share yet.
In this conversation, Sophie Monk joins Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt to talk about love, ego and her 26-year career, from Bardot to Hollywood.
This episode covers:
- How Sophie Monk met her husband, Josh Gross, on a 16-hour flight
- Inside Love Island Australia season 8 and the Fiji villa
- The biggest misconception about Love Island
- Anxious attachment, codependency and self-sabotage
- Falling in love later in life
- Why your “type” is probably wrong
- Ego, rejection and why playing hard to get still works
- Growing up with ADD
- Dating through the paparazzi years
- 26 years from Bardot to Hollywood
- Can money buy happiness?
Love Island Australia season 8 streams Monday to Thursday from 10am on 9Now, and at 8.30pm on Channel 9. Watch on 9Now
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Edited By Helen Smith
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
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Myf Warhurst on Menopause, ADHD & Why Women Don't Need To Be Chosen
What happens when the life you've been told to want no longer fits? In this episode of You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt sits down with broadcaster, author and Better Homes and …
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What happens when the life you've been told to want no longer fits?
In this episode of You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt sits down with broadcaster, author and Better Homes and Gardens presenter Myf Warhurst to discuss her powerful new book Middle Rage and the realities of life, love and womanhood in midlife.
Myf opens up about her experience with perimenopause, the anxiety that left her struggling to go on air, and the late ADHD diagnosis that helped explain so much about her life. Together, Georgie and Myf unpack why so many women feel exhausted, overwhelmed and angry in midlife, and why that anger might actually be one of our greatest strengths.
They discuss the cultural conditioning that teaches women they need to be chosen, how romantic films like The Notebook shaped our expectations of love, and why more women are choosing to live independently, downsize after divorce and create lives on their own terms in the new series, Better at Home, hosted by Myf.
The conversation also explores the gender data gap in medicine, why women's health has been overlooked for generations, the rise of AI-driven ageism in the workplace, and the importance of trusting your intuition, backing yourself and staying visible as you get older.
Funny, thoughtful and deeply honest, this is a conversation about reclaiming your voice, trusting yourself and embracing the freedom that can come with age.
This episode covers:
- Myf Warhurst's new book Middle Rage
- Perimenopause and menopause symptoms women aren't warned about
- Anxiety, burnout and the hidden impact of hormonal changes
- Receiving an ADHD diagnosis later in life
- Why ADHD often goes undiagnosed in women
- Women's anger, people-pleasing and setting boundaries
- The cultural pressure to be chosen in relationships
- Dating, divorce and finding happiness on your own terms
- The reality behind romantic movie tropes
- Creating a fulfilling life without following traditional expectations
- Better Homes and Gardens and the rise of women designing lives their own way
- The gender gap in medical research
- Why women's health outcomes are often worse than men's
- AI-driven ageism and women in the workplace
- Trusting your intuition and backing yourself in midlife
- Why knowledge is power for women
Middle Rage is on sale now! And you can watch Better At Home here
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Credits:
Host Georgie McCourt
Edited by Helen Smith
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
You're Gonna Want to Hear This is a production of Marie Claire and Are Media https://www.marieclaire.com.au/life/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this-podcast/
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Two Mothers Lost Their Children. Now They're Fighting for Change
CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses child loss. Please know help is available contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, or Beyond Blue on 1300 224 636. Danielle Lilley and Melissa Carlton know …
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CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses child loss. Please know help is available contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, or Beyond Blue on 1300 224 636.
Danielle Lilley and Melissa Carlton know what it means to have a life changed in an instant. Both are mothers who lost children suddenly, both were left searching for answers, and both eventually discovered that a rare genetic condition called PPA2 was at the centre of their stories.
Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt brings Danielle and Melissa together for an incredibly honest conversation about grief, motherhood, unanswered questions and what happens when the answers come too late.
Danielle lost her son Sunny at nine months old after what appeared to be a mild illness. Years later, when her daughter Airlie became critically ill and suffered a cardiac arrest, doctors finally discovered that Danielle and her husband were carriers of PPA2 and that both children had inherited the condition. The diagnosis finally explained what had happened to Sunny, but it came only after another child had been put at risk.
Melissa lost her daughter Abi at nine years old after a sudden cardiac arrest. Then, on Christmas Day 2025, her five-year-old daughter Molly also died after becoming critically ill. It was only after Molly's death, following months of testing, that Melissa and her husband Tom discovered they were carriers of PPA2 and that Abi may have had the same condition.
They speak candidly about anger, particularly the anger that came with discovering that genetic testing might have provided answers earlier. For Danielle, that realisation became the catalyst for The Coroners Project and her advocacy for better genetic testing, referral pathways and support following unexplained childhood deaths. Melissa is also campaigning for greater access to genetic testing after discovering that her family could potentially have known about PPA2 earlier.
Melissa also opens up about sharing grief publicly, the support she found online after Abi's death, and the devastating criticism and abuse she experienced after Molly's death. She talks about why she eventually spoke about the online bullying and how she and Tom created Hello Angel, an app designed to support grieving families and help people maintain a continuing bond with someone they have lost.
And beneath all of it is a conversation about their children who Sunny, Airlie, Abi and Molly were, the memories they have left behind, and what it means to continue being a parent after losing a child.
Read more on Marie Claire: Two Mothers Lived Every Parent’s Worst Nightmare – Twice. Now They Want Answers
Follow Melissa @melissamaecarlton Follow Danielle @our_rarelife
This episode covers:
- Danielle and Melissa's experiences of sudden child loss
- The stories of Sunny, Airlie, Abi and Molly
- PPA2 and rare genetic conditions
- Sudden unexplained death in children
- The search for answers after an unexplained death
- Genetic testing and why earlier answers matter
- The emotional impact of discovering a diagnosis after loss
- Grief and parenting surviving children
- Living with unanswered questions
- Anger, advocacy and the healthcare system
- The Coroners Project
- Sharing grief on social media
- Creating Hello Angel
- Continuing bonds and keeping memories alive
- Turning grief into advocacy
- Why community matters after child loss
- What Danielle and Melissa want other families to know
If this conversation raises issues for you, support is available. In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, or Beyond Blue on 1300 224 636.
If you have experienced loss from SUDC, you can have your say in changing the coronial process with Melanie Andrew-Manning’s survey here.
Stay up to date with Marie Claire Australia on Instagram @marieclaireau
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Credits:
Host Georgie McCourt
Edited by Helen Smith
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
You're Gonna Want to Hear This is a production of Marie Claire and Are Media https://www.marieclaire.com.au/life/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this-podcast/
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The October Issue: Teresa Palmer, Male Advocates & The Longevity Boom
What does it really mean to be a woman today? Is progress making life easier, or are we just facing a new set of challenges? This episode discusses domestic violence and other strong themes. Please know support …
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What does it really mean to be a woman today? Is progress making life easier, or are we just facing a new set of challenges?
This episode discusses domestic violence and other strong themes. Please know support is available, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence support.
In this special October Issue episode of You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt and Deputy Editor Mel Gaudron dive into the stories shaping this month's issue, from the realities of growing up as a girl in the age of social media to the men working to end violence against women.
They unpack the pressures facing girls today, including online safety, body image, digital culture and the growing influence of misogynistic online communities. They also discuss the mental load women carry at home, asking what would happen if mums simply stopped doing everything, and whether "doing less" might actually be the key to a happier family.
The episode also explores the booming longevity industry and why ageing has become the latest frontier for wellness marketing. Georgie and Mel question whether biohacking, supplements and expensive treatments are really helping us live longer, or simply giving us another impossible standard to chase.
Plus, they discuss one of the most astonishing true stories featured in the issue: an adopted woman who reunites with her biological father, only for the relationship to take an unexpected turn. And they celebrate cover star Teresa Palmer, who opens up about motherhood, ambition, self-belief and landing the biggest role of her career at 40.
This episode covers:
- Marie Claire Australia's October Issue and Teresa Palmer cover story
- What it's really like to grow up as a girl today
- Social media, online safety, consent and the challenges facing teenage girls
- Advice from inspiring women on confidence, ambition and backing yourself
- The mental load and what happens when mums stop managing everyone's lives
- Gender roles, household labour and modern relationships
- Male advocates working to end violence against women
- Why men need to be part of the conversation on gendered violence
- The longevity boom, biohacking and the business of wellness
- Whether expensive anti-ageing treatments actually deliver results
- The extraordinary adoption reunion that led to a five-year relationship
- Genetic sexual attraction and the complexities of identity and belonging
- Teresa Palmer on motherhood, career reinvention and her new role in God of War
- "Vagina maxxing", intimate wellness trends and the growing commercialisation of women's bodies
- Why women's health should be based on evidence, not perfectionism
Further reading from the October Issue:
International Day Of The Girl: Three Young Women On What Needs To Change For Australian Girls By Harriet Sim
Can Women Really Stop Doing Invisible Labour? One Writer Finds Out By Dilvin Yasa
AI, Toxic Masculinity And Diagnosis-By-Algorithm: The Reality Of Raising Teenage Girls Today By Dilvin Yasa
Follow male advocates on Insta @tarangchawla @itsharrijames @lastoftheromans
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How to Take Control of Your Money: Canna Campbell on Financial Freedom & Money Mindset
Money can be a source of stress, confusion and avoidance, but what if being good with money wasn’t just about building wealth but an act of self-care? This week, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is …
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Money can be a source of stress, confusion and avoidance, but what if being good with money wasn’t just about building wealth but an act of self-care?
This week, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by financial adviser, author and SugarMamma founder Canna Campbell to talk about money mindset, financial freedom and how taking control of your finances can be a powerful way of taking care of yourself.
Canna shares practical advice on setting specific financial goals, creating a simple budget, spending intentionally, and building additional income streams. They also discuss superannuation, investing, income protection, the gender retirement gap and FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early).
Plus, how childhood beliefs can shape our relationship with money, why social media can distort our perception of wealth, how couples can have better conversations about finances, why decluttering can reveal more about our spending habits, and the one financial task Canna says you should stop putting off.
If you've ever felt overwhelmed, ashamed or simply unsure about your finances, this is a reminder that getting better with money doesn't have to mean doing everything at once. Sometimes, looking after your money is simply another way of looking after yourself.
This episode covers:
- Canna Campbell on what financial freedom really means
- Changing your mindset around money
- Letting go of shame and inherited beliefs about finances
- Setting specific, meaningful financial goals
- Why you don’t need to fix your entire financial life at once
- Taking small, achievable steps towards financial freedom
- Creating a simple budget that actually works for you
- Building a financial “float” for unexpected and annual expenses
- Spending intentionally and prioritising what you value
- How social media can distort our perception of wealth
- Canna’s “Thousand Dollar Project” and the power of compounding
- Understanding and taking control of your superannuation
- Income protection and protecting your ability to earn
- FIRE: Financial Independence, Retire Early
- Money and relationships, and how couples can talk about finances
- Why having your own financial assets matters
- Decluttering and what your spending habits can reveal about you
- What to do when you’ve been avoiding your finances
- Why the best time to start is now
Find out more about Canna's book Twelve Months to Financial Freedom and https://www.sugarmamma.tv/
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Host Georgie McCourt
Edited by Helen Smith
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
You're Gonna Want to Hear This is a production of Marie Claire and Are Media https://www.marieclaire.com.au/life/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this-podcast/
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Fidan Shevket on Divorce Myths, Breast Reductions & Starting a New Chapter | Part 2
What can 20 years of working in family law teach you about marriage, divorce and what makes a relationship last? In Part Two of Georgie McCourt's conversation with family lawyer, author, mum and TikTok …
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What can 20 years of working in family law teach you about marriage, divorce and what makes a relationship last?
In Part Two of Georgie McCourt's conversation with family lawyer, author, mum and TikTok sensation Fidan Shevket, Fidan gets candid about her “Don’t worry about it” philosophy, dealing with trolls, her decision to have a breast reduction and everything her career has taught her about relationships.
Fidan reveals what ultimately led her to have a breast reduction after years of people commenting on her body, and how the procedure changed her life after she began experiencing chronic back pain.
As a family lawyer, Fidan has spent more than two decades watching relationships break down. She shares what she believes are some of the most common reasons marriages end, from communication problems and falling out of love to couples gradually living separate lives. She also talks about what she's learnt from those experiences and how she applies them to her own relationship.
Fidan and Georgie also get into the world of prenups, or binding financial agreements, including when Fidan believes they can make sense, why they can be complicated, and the importance of getting good legal advice before signing one.
And, of course, there's food. Fidan gives Georgie a glimpse into her latest cookbook project and explains why salads, platters and finding joy in the everyday have become such a big part of her online world.
This episode covers:
- Fidan's “Don't worry about it” philosophy
- Dealing with trolls and criticism online
- Why she eventually decided to have a breast reduction
- The back pain that led to the decision
- What 20 years in family law has taught her about relationships
- The common reasons marriages break down
- Communication, compromise and making an effort in a relationship
- Why couples need to maintain their own interests
- Fidan's views on prenups and financial protection
- What women should consider before signing a settlement
- Her advice for anyone feeling worn down during a divorce
- Her approach to intimidation and confidence
- Her latest cookbook project
- Finding joy in the everyday
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Host Georgie McCourt
Edited by Helen Smith
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
You're Gonna Want to Hear This is a production of Marie Claire and Are Media https://www.marieclaire.com.au/life/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this-podcast/
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Fidan Shevket on IVF, Going Viral, Childhood Cancer & Making the Most of Life | Part 1
One day family lawyer Fidan Shevket decided to make a salad on TikTok, and it ended up with more than 15.2 million views. In this two-part conversation, Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with family …
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One day family lawyer Fidan Shevket decided to make a salad on TikTok, and it ended up with more than 15.2 million views.
In this two-part conversation, Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with family lawyer, author, mum and TikTok sensation Fidan Shevket to talk about her extraordinary career, surviving cancer as a teenager, motherhood and the unexpected journey that turned her into one of Australia's most recognisable social media personalities.
She takes us back to the beginning, from surviving cancer as a teenager to building a career in family law and navigating IVF, miscarriage and the premature birth of her twins at just 26 weeks. She opens up about the experiences that have shaped her outlook on life, motherhood and her determination to make the most of every day.
Fidan also shares how she went from making videos about family law to building a following of more than 1.4 million people on TikTok. She talks about the viral salads, Saturday platters and everyday moments that have made her so beloved online, and explains the thinking behind her now-famous philosophy: “Don’t worry about it.”
Part two continues the conversation with Fidan on breast reduction, trolls, marriage and divorce, what two decades of working in family law have taught her about relationships, prenups and her exciting new cookbook project.
This episode covers:
- How Fidan went from family lawyer to TikTok sensation
- The unexpected story behind her 1.4 million followers
- The viral salad that changed everything
- Why Saturday platters became part of her online identity
- Surviving cancer as a teenager
- Discovering years later that she had a rare form of cancer
- How her parents protected her from the reality of her diagnosis
- Starting IVF in her late 30s
- Miscarriage and the emotional reality of trying to conceive
- The premature birth of her twins at 26 weeks
- Life in the NICU and becoming a mother under extraordinary circumstances
- Breastfeeding, formula and the pressure placed on new mothers
- Finding resilience through some of life's most difficult moments
- Why Fidan believes in squeezing the day and finding joy in the everyday
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Credits:
Host Georgie McCourt
Edited by Helen Smith
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
You're Gonna Want to Hear This is a production of Marie Claire and Are Media https://www.marieclaire.com.au/life/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this-podcast/
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Tracy Hall Fell in Love With a Con Man. Then He Stole $317,000
What happens when the person you loved, the person you trusted with your future, wasn’t who they said they were? Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt sits down with author, advocate and marketing …
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What happens when the person you loved, the person you trusted with your future, wasn’t who they said they were?
Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt sits down with author, advocate and marketing executive Tracy Hall, whose extraordinary story became known through the hit investigative podcast Who the Hell Is Hamish? Tracy was Hamish McLaren’s final known victim, after an 18-month relationship, she discovered that the man she knew as Max Tavita was in fact one of Australia’s most notorious con men. He had stolen $317,000 of her life savings.
Now, years after her story first captivated listeners, Tracy joins Georgie to tell the story in her own words. From falling in love with a man who appeared to share her values and ambitions, to discovering that almost everything she knew about him was a lie.
Tracy takes us inside the sophisticated manipulation that kept her from seeing what was happening, including the slow-building relationship, the carefully manufactured similarities, future promises and conversations about money that ultimately led to her investing her savings. She explains why romance scams aren’t about intelligence or naivety, why anyone can be vulnerable to manipulation, and why the shame should belong with the perpetrator, not the victim.
She also talks about The Last Victim, her memoir about the experience, and the work she is now doing to advocate for safer online dating, financial empowerment and a different way of talking about victims of scams. She explains why she believes dating apps need stronger identity verification, what happened when she discovered Hamish had appeared on a dating app again, and why she wants better safeguards in place before her own daughter enters the world of online dating.
And in one of the most timely parts of the conversation, Tracy explores the next generation of deception, AI scams, deepfakes and voice cloning and why “trust literacy” may become as important as financial and digital literacy.
This episode covers:
- Tracy Hall’s role as Hamish McLaren’s last known victim
- Her story as featured in Who the Hell Is Hamish?
- Meeting Hamish, who she knew as Max Tavita, on a dating app
- How an 18-month relationship was carefully constructed
- The manipulation tactics and warning signs she missed
- How $317,000 of her savings was stolen
- Why intelligent, successful people can become victims of romance scams
- The psychological impact of intimate fraud and betrayal
- Rebuilding her confidence, identity and ability to trust
- Becoming financially empowered after the scam
- Writing The Last Victim
- Victim blaming and the language we use around scams
- Why dating apps need stronger safety measures
- Hamish McLaren appearing on a dating app after his release
- Dating again and learning to trust herself
- “Trust literacy” and navigating deception in the digital age. AI scams, deepfakes and voice cloning
- Why shame belongs with the perpetrator, not the victim
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Why Women Need to Stop Being “Nice” with Amy Remeikis
What if being “nice” isn’t the same as being kind? And what happens when women stop making themselves smaller to keep everyone else comfortable? This week, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is …
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What if being “nice” isn’t the same as being kind? And what happens when women stop making themselves smaller to keep everyone else comfortable?
This week, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by political journalist, author and cultural commentator Amy Remeikis to unpack women, power, anger, civility and the pressure to be “good”.
The author of Screw Nice, Amy explores why women are often judged for being direct, angry or emotional, while the same behaviour can be interpreted very differently in men. She discusses the double standards behind labels like “difficult”, the expectation that women make themselves smaller, and why refusing to be compliant can be an act of power.
Amy also shares her own experiences of learning to speak up, including a childhood moment that made her question why the way a woman responds to injustice can become more important than the injustice itself. She explains how she approaches uncomfortable conversations with people whose political views differ from her own, and why asking “why?” can be more productive than immediately shutting down a difficult conversation.
Plus, Amy shares her advice for dealing with being called “emotional”, “hysterical” or “difficult”, why women should stop apologising unless they have actually done something wrong, and how walking away from an argument can sometimes be the most empowering response.
This episode covers:
- The politics of being “nice”
- Why women are labelled “difficult”
- Anger, protest and speaking up
- Grace Tame and the policing of women’s behaviour
- Double standards for women in leadership
- Political disagreement and finding common ground
- Gaslighting and emotional dismissal
- Why women need to stop apologising for everything
- Taking up space and using your power
- The difference between being nice and being decent
You can find Amy's book Screw Nice here https://www.hachette.com.au/amy-remeikis/screw-nice
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Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
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Anine Bing on Life After Divorce, Finding Herself Again & Being Happier in Her 40s
Anine Bing has spent more than a decade building the kind of fashion empire most entrepreneurs dream of, launching ANINE BING from a Los Angeles garage and turning her signature blend of Scandinavian simplicity …
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Anine Bing has spent more than a decade building the kind of fashion empire most entrepreneurs dream of, launching ANINE BING from a Los Angeles garage and turning her signature blend of Scandinavian simplicity and LA cool into a global brand. But now, the designer, entrepreneur and creative is asking a different question: what success actually look like when it feels like it’s time to start again?
This week, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by Anine for a deeply personal conversation about awakening, ambition, burnout, divorce, motherhood, creativity and the journey of finding her way back to herself.
At 43, Anine found herself questioning whether she was truly living her truth or feeling fulfilled. After years of building her global fashion brand while raising her children, she realised she had been so busy “building, building, building” that she hadn’t had time to sit with herself and understand how she really felt. What followed was a period of deep inner work, major personal change and, ultimately, a new sense of freedom.
Anine also talks candidly about divorce, starting again in her 40s and the unexpected happiness she found on the other side. From creating a new home on her own terms to discovering that she is genuinely happy being alone, Anine reflects on what freedom means to her now and why she feels she has finally come back to herself.
The conversation also explores the evolution of ANINE BING, from packing orders on the garage floor while pregnant to building a global fashion business, and the importance of staying in your own lane rather than getting distracted by what everyone else is doing. She shares her philosophy on personal style, buying less but better, and why the right clothes can change how you feel about yourself.
Plus, Anine opens up about music as a form of healing, her album Chapter Two, motherhood, raising teenagers, finding her voice and why she now feels an obligation to share her experiences if they might help another woman.
This episode covers:
- Anine Bing on her awakening in her 40s
- Finding your way back to yourself
- The hidden reality of burnout and ambition
- Balancing motherhood and building a global business
- Learning to prioritise yourself
- Divorce and finding happiness on the other side
- Starting a new chapter on your own terms
- The freedom of being alone
- Staying in your own lane
- Building a successful fashion brand
- Buying less and better and finding your personal uniform
- Fashion, confidence and how clothes make us feel
- Music as therapy and healing and Anine’s new album, Chapter Two
- Motherhood and raising teenagers
- Being comfortable in your own skin
- The power of starting over
- Why you shouldn’t give up
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The Style Issue: Anne Hathaway, Bumpfluencers & Going Grey
What does it really mean to find your personal style? Our bodies change. Our lives change. So why do we expect our wardrobes to stay the same? In this special Style Issue episode of You're Gonna Want To Hear …
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What does it really mean to find your personal style? Our bodies change. Our lives change. So why do we expect our wardrobes to stay the same?
In this special Style Issue episode of You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt and Deputy Editor Mel Gaudron take us inside the pages of the magazine's biggest fashion issue of the year, from Anne Hathaway's career renaissance to the messy reality of getting dressed in the morning.
They unpack what it means to find your own style after motherhood and through perimenopause, why comfort becomes increasingly important as we get older, and how major life experiences can completely transform the way we dress. They also explore the growing acceptance of grey hair, the power of dopamine dressing, and the unspoken fashion rules that make us question whether we're getting it "right."
The episode also looks beyond fashion, exploring the booming bumpfluencer economy and the way pregnancy and motherhood have become increasingly commercialised online. Georgie and Mel discuss the benefits and risks of monetising motherhood, the products being marketed to pregnant women, and why social media can make every stage of a woman's life feel like a commodity.
They also share the extraordinary story of Jess Denham, who survived horrific childhood abuse and has gone on to become an advocate for better mental health support and greater confidentiality for sexual assault survivors. Plus, they discuss Marie Claire's investigation into voluntary assisted dying in Australia, Leighton Meester on success, self-worth and beauty, and why style ultimately comes down to feeling confident enough to be yourself.
This episode covers:
- Marie Claire Australia's September Style Issue and Anne Hathaway's cover story
- Anne Hathaway's career renaissance, The Devil Wears Prada 2 and The Odyssey
- Finding your personal style and the pressure to follow fashion trends
- How motherhood changes the way women dress
- Perimenopause, body image and dressing for comfort
- Going grey and embracing ageing
- Dopamine dressing and using colour as a form of self-expression
- The "bumpfluencer" economy and the commercialisation of motherhood
- Jess Denham's extraordinary story of survival and advocacy
- Voluntary assisted dying and the personal stories behind the debate
- Leighton Meester on success, self-worth and beauty
- Why personal style is ultimately about confidence and being yourself
The September issue of Marie Claire Australia, starring Anne Hathaway, is on sale now.
Further reading from the September Issue:
Six Well-Dressed Women Share How They Found Their Style by Harriet Sim
Inside The Unregulated World Of Pregnancy Influencers by Madison Griffiths
Jess Denham Survived The Unthinkable. Now She’s A Voice For Other Survivors by Nina Funnell
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Drawn to the Manosphere: Tarang Chawla on Fighting Misogyny with Empathy
CONTENT WARNING: This episode covers violence, death and sexual assault. In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence …
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CONTENT WARNING: This episode covers violence, death and sexual assault. In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence support.
What does it mean to be a good man and what happens when we stop teaching boys that masculinity has to fit inside a box?
This week, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by writer, speaker and anti-violence campaigner Tarang Chawla for a deeply personal and wide-ranging conversation about grief, masculinity, violence against women, the manosphere and what it means to create change.
Tarang is the founder of Not One More Nikki, an organisation named in memory of his sister Nikki, who was murdered by her husband in 2015 at just 23 years old. He opens up about Nikki’s life, the abuse and coercive control she experienced, the devastating impact of her death, and how grief ultimately became a catalyst for his work advocating for an Australia free from violence against women.
He reflects on the conversations we need to have with boys and men about power, empathy and accountability, and why “not all men” distracts from the more important question: what can men do to be part of the solution?
Tarang also explores the rise of the manosphere, and the online spaces drawing young men towards misogyny and unpacks the “Man Box” - the expectations that tell boys and men to be tough, dominant and unemotional.
Plus, Tarang shares the heartfelt message he would give to Nikki if she were here today, a deeply personal reflection on love, loss and the sibling bond they shared.
This is a conversation about grief, masculinity, accountability and what it takes to create meaningful change.
This episode covers:
- Tarang Chawla on the death of his sister Nikki
- Nikki’s story and the reality of coercive control
- Turning grief into advocacy and action
- Violence against women and men’s responsibility
- Why “not all men” is a useless response
- What men can do to be part of the solution
- The rise of the manosphere and why young boys are drawn to online misogyny
- The “Man Box” and expectations of masculinity
- Accountability, bystander intervention and male friendship
- Why “why doesn’t she just leave?” misses the point
- Pauline Hanson’s comments on domestic violence
- Challenging misogyny without turning away from boys and men
- Grief, memory and living with the loss of Nikki
- What Tarang wants men to understand about violence
- Creating a healthier, more expansive idea of masculinity
If this conversation raises issues for you, support is available.
In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence support.
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Sabrina Elba on Finding Purpose, Marrying the Internet’s Husband & Building S’Able Labs
What happens when you refuse to be defined by just one version of yourself? This week, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by Sabrina Dhowre Elba for a wide-ranging conversation about …
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What happens when you refuse to be defined by just one version of yourself?
This week, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by Sabrina Dhowre Elba for a wide-ranging conversation about beauty, ambition, heritage, purpose and finding your own path.
Sabrina is a model, entrepreneur, beauty founder, activist, philanthropist and UN Goodwill Ambassador, but she’s also someone who has spent much of her life challenging the idea that women have to fit neatly into one box. She opens up about growing up in a Somali family in Canada, the influence of her mother Maryam, and how her heritage shaped the way she thinks about advocacy, philanthropy and representation.
She also talks about building S’Able Labs with Idris Elba, her husband, and the frustration with an industry that historically failed to properly cater to melanin-rich skin. Which ultimately lead to why she wanted to create a beauty brand that celebrates African ingredients and knowledge without making the product feel exclusive.
Sabrina also shares her hopes for changing the way the world talks about Africa, her work around agriculture and economic independence, and what she has learnt about using her platform to create long-term change. And, in a new chapter, she opens up about taking on her first lead film role, and what she discovered about herself while stepping into acting.
This is a conversation about identity, ambition, culture, purpose and the freedom to explore every side of yourself. As Sabrina puts it, her message is simple: don’t be afraid to explore different sides of yourself and just do the thing.
This episode covers:
- Sabrina Dhowre Elba on refusing to be put in a box
- Growing up in a Somali family in Canada
- The influence of her mother, Maryam
- Heritage, identity and representation
- Building S’Able Labs with Idris Elba
- Creating more inclusive skincare
- African botanicals and traditional knowledge
- The realities of self-funding a beauty brand
- Purpose, philanthropy and meaningful impact
- Changing the way the world talks about Africa
- Agriculture, climate change and economic independence
- Marriage, partnership and working with Idris
- Sabrina's first lead film role
- Why you should never be afraid to explore different sides of yourself
Check out S'Able Labs here https://bit.ly/4x3WzLd
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Adrianne Palicki on Friday Night Lights, Being Underestimated & Finding Her Voice
What does it mean to define yourself when so much of your life has been shaped by other people's expectations? This week on You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is …
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What does it mean to define yourself when so much of your life has been shaped by other people's expectations?
This week on You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by actress Adrianne Palicki for an intimate conversation about growing up in Hollywood, finding your voice, and the women she's played who have stayed with audiences long after the cameras stopped rolling.
Nearly 20 years after Friday Night Lights first premiered, Adrianne reflects on the enduring legacy of Tyra Collette, a character who spent much of the series being underestimated and defined by others, before finally choosing to imagine a different future for herself. As the show celebrates its anniversary, Adrianne talks about reconnecting with the cast and fans, why Tyra's famous college essay still resonates with her, and the extraordinary messages she's received from women whose lives were changed by the character.
She also opens up about navigating Hollywood as a woman, from being judged by appearances and underestimated early in her career, to the pressure to be strong, likeable and youthful.
Adrianne also speaks about her new indie drama Due West, reuniting with fellow Friday Night Lights alumni and playing a woman forced to take control of her future when the systems around her fail. She discusses the power of independent filmmaking, the stories she wants to tell about women, and why she's drawn to characters who refuse to be defined by their circumstances.
This is a conversation about ambition, resilience, identity, ageing, rejection and reinvention, and what happens when you stop asking other people who you're supposed to be.
This episode covers:
- Adrianne Palicki on the enduring legacy of Friday Night Lights
- Why Tyra Collette still resonates with women nearly 20 years later
- The Friday Night Lights 20th anniversary and reconnecting with the cast
- The importance of Tyra's “define myself” college essay
- Being underestimated and finding your own sense of possibility
- Growing up and finding your way in Hollywood
- Being a woman in an industry obsessed with youth and appearance
- Rejection, ambition and redefining success
- Ageing and finding freedom in your 40s
- Adrianne's new film Due West
- Reuniting with Friday Night Lights alumni on Due West
- Producing Texas Forever: The Legacy of Friday Night Lights
- What it means to define yourself on your own terms
You can watch Due West on Apple TV
Friday Night Lights 20th Anniversary Roadshow: www.plex.tv/friday-night-lights-roadtrip
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The Friendship Issue: Hannah Waddingham, Teen-ternity & Bad Friends
What does it really take to maintain friendships as an adult, and why do we feel like failures when they fade? In this special Friendship Issue episode of You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Editor …
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What does it really take to maintain friendships as an adult, and why do we feel like failures when they fade?
In this special Friendship Issue episode of You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt and Deputy Editor Mel Gaudron go inside the pages of the new issue, from the small joys of catching up to the bigger, messier questions we're all asking:
They unpack the emotional labor of adult friendship, whether venting is a form of emotional misconduct or essential intimacy, the seven-year friendship statistic, what to do when you don't like a friend's partner, and the guilt of being the "bad friend." They also discuss "teen-ternity leave" — the phenomenon of mothers stepping back from careers when their kids become teenagers — and the very real cost to women's income, superannuation, and career progression.
They also cover Marie Claire's cover star Hannah Waddingham, Ted Lasso season four, her four-octave vocal range, perimenopause journey and why women's careers getting better in their 50s is something to celebrate.
This episode covers:
- Marie Claire Australia's Friendship Issue Hannah Waddingham cover story
- Ted Lasso season four
- The emotional labor of adult friendship
- Do friendships have to last forever?
- Am I a bad friend?
- When love takes over and friendships fall by the wayside
- In defense of venting
- Teen-ternity leave and the cost to women's careers
- Perimenopause, body image, and women in their 50s
- Why friendship is oxygen for the soul
The August issue of Marie Claire Australia, starring Hannah Waddingham, is on sale now.
Further reading from the August Issue:
Hannah Waddingham On Ted Lasso’s New Season, Fame & Friendship
Would You Take Time Off From Your Career To Go On Teen-ternity Leave?
If you want to read more of the featured stories, including In Defence of Venting by Bek Day and Best Friends Forever? By Alexandra English grab yourself a copy of the issue!
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Tash Sefton on Finding Love Again, Turning 50 & Reinventing Your Style | Part 2
Can starting over at 50 lead to the happiest chapter of your life? Continuing from part one, Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt talks to fashion entrepreneur and style icon Tash Sefton about finding love …
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Can starting over at 50 lead to the happiest chapter of your life?
Continuing from part one, Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt talks to fashion entrepreneur and style icon Tash Sefton about finding love again, turning 50, and the new life she never expected to build.
Tash opens up about meeting her husband Adam and the unexpected way love entered her life after divorce. She talks candidly about self-sabotage, learning to accept kindness after being hurt, and why she believes love often arrives when you stop looking for it. She reflects on the moment she realised she had created an entirely new life for herself — and why she now sees starting again as something she would highly recommend.
Tash also talks about turning 50, the anxiety she felt about the milestone and the beautiful way her friends and family helped her embrace it. Rather than seeing 50 as an ending, she began to recognise it as the beginning of a new chapter: one filled with love, friendship, purpose and a renewed sense of self.
The conversation turns to style and the reason behind her business, Where Did Your Style Go? Tash explores why so many women lose touch with their personal style as their lives change, and why getting dressed should be about feeling like yourself rather than following trends. She shares her approach to building a wardrobe around classics, mixing vintage with contemporary pieces, and helping women understand their own style, while also discussing her relationship with social media and why authenticity matters more than chasing followers.
This is a conversation about reinvention, identity, love and the freedom that can come with getting older. As Tash discovers, sometimes the life you build after everything changes can be even better than the one you thought you were meant to have.
This episode covers:
- Finding love again after divorce
- Meeting Adam and learning to trust a new relationship
- Self-sabotage and the fear of getting hurt again
- Why love can arrive when you stop looking for it
- Turning 50 and confronting the anxiety around ageing
- The friendships that helped her embrace a new chapter
- Starting a new life and choosing happiness
- Why women can lose their sense of style as their lives change
- The philosophy behind Where Did Your Style Go?
- Building a wardrobe around classics rather than trends
- Mixing vintage, contemporary fashion and personal style
- Helping women rediscover who they are through what they wear
- Using social media as a tool rather than letting it control you
- Why she only promotes products she genuinely believes in
- What success, happiness and purpose mean in this chapter of her life
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Tash Sefton on Divorce, Losing Herself & Starting Over After 22 Years | Part 1
What happens when the life you built no longer feels like your own? This is part one of a two-part conversation. Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with fashion entrepreneur, digital creator and …
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What happens when the life you built no longer feels like your own?
This is part one of a two-part conversation. Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with fashion entrepreneur, digital creator and Where Did Your Style Go? founder Tash Sefton to talk about her extraordinary career, motherhood, divorce and the experience of rebuilding your identity from scratch.
Tash takes us back to the beginning, from discovering her love of fashion through her Croatian grandmother and mother, to becoming a fashion buyer, entrepreneur and one of Australia's most recognisable style voices. She reflects on more than two decades spent shaping the way Australian women shop and dress, and why she eventually walked away from parts of the fashion industry that no longer felt authentic.
She opens up about the end of her 22-year marriage, navigating divorce with children, and rediscovering who she was outside of being a wife and mother. Tash reflects on learning to be comfortable alone, rebuilding her confidence and identity, and finding the freedom to start again.
Tash also shares what happened when she stopped looking for love, began dating again, and discovered that a new chapter could be even better than the one she'd left behind.
Part two continues the conversation with Tash on finding love again, turning 50, the evolution of her personal style, authenticity on social media, and why so many women reach a point in life where they no longer recognise themselves.
This episode covers:
- Discovering fashion through her grandmother and mother
- Building a career as a fashion buyer, entrepreneur and digital creator
- More than two decades shaping Australian women's approach to style
- Walking away from parts of the fashion industry that no longer felt authentic
- The end of her 22-year marriage
- Navigating divorce and motherhood
- Losing and rebuilding her sense of identity
- Learning to have a relationship with herself
- Finding freedom and contentment in being alone
- Dating after divorce and rediscovering herself
- Why she wasn't looking for love when it eventually found her
- Starting again and believing life can get better
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The Sandwich Generation: Sarah Macdonald on Ageing Parents & the Invisible Mental Load
What happens when caring for the people who once cared for you becomes one of the biggest challenges of your life? This week Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by broadcaster, journalist …
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What happens when caring for the people who once cared for you becomes one of the biggest challenges of your life?
This week Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by broadcaster, journalist and bestselling author Sarah Macdonald for an honest conversation about ageing parents, motherhood, work, grief, guilt and the invisible weight carried by so many women.
Sarah is part of Australia's sandwich generation, caring for her 92-year-old mother and 94-year-old mother-in-law while navigating family life and a demanding media career. She opens up about the reality of caring for ageing parents, from managing the practical and emotional load to the moments of frustration, grief and unexpected joy that come with watching the people who raised you grow older.
The conversation also explores what it means to be part of the sandwich generation: raising children, caring for ageing parents, maintaining a career and trying to hold onto a life of your own. Sarah shares why women need more recognition, support and honest conversations around caregiving, and why simply hearing the words "you're doing a great job" can mean so much.
This episode covers:
- Sarah Macdonald on life in the sandwich generation
- Caring for ageing parents while raising a family
- The invisible mental load of caregiving
- Balancing motherhood, work and caring responsibilities
- The impact of caregiving on women's careers
- The career opportunities Sarah had to let go
- Advocating for her father at the end of his life
- The grief and guilt that comes with watching parents age
- The emotional and practical realities of unpaid care
- The importance of simply saying "you're doing a great job"
- How women can prepare for their parents getting older
- Finding moments of joy while caring for ageing parents
- What Australia needs to do differently for unpaid carers
- Why the sandwich generation is one of the defining issues facing women today
You can find Sarah's podcast Club Sandwich here
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Miranda Kerr: Divorce, Destiny and the Love Story She Never Expected
What does life really look like after becoming one of the world's most famous supermodels? This week Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by Miranda Kerr for an intimate conversation about …
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What does life really look like after becoming one of the world's most famous supermodels?
This week Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by Miranda Kerr for an intimate conversation about motherhood, co-parenting, building a global beauty empire, and the personal experiences that shaped the woman behind the headlines. From becoming Australia's first Victoria's Secret Angel to founding KORA Organics, Miranda reflects on the career, family and values that continue to define her today.
She opens up about growing up in country Australia, becoming famous in her twenties, navigating life under intense public scrutiny, and finding peace after the end of her marriage to Orlando Bloom. She also speaks candidly about raising four boys, co-parenting in a modern blended family, and how she met her husband, Snapchat founder Evan Spiegel.
Miranda also reflects on the deeply personal experience that inspired her to launch KORA Organics. After her mother was diagnosed with tumours when Miranda was a teenager, she became passionate about nutrition, wellness and certified organic skincare, long before the wellness industry became what it is today. More than 15 years later, KORA Organics is sold in over 30 countries, with Miranda still personally involved in everything from product development to ingredient sourcing.
This is a conversation about ambition, resilience, family, forgiveness and what success looks like beyond the runway. Miranda also shares the wellness rituals she genuinely swears by, the biohacks she believes are worth the hype, how her priorities have changed since turning 43, and why looking after yourself starts from the inside out.
This episode covers:
- Miranda Kerr on life beyond modelling
- Becoming Australia's first Victoria's Secret Angel
- Building KORA Organics into a global beauty brand
- The family health scare that changed her life
- Motherhood and raising four boys
- Co-parenting with Orlando Bloom
- Marriage, family life and Evan Spiegel
- Fame, forgiveness and finding perspective
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Nicole Yade: Why Leaving an Abusive Relationship Is the Most Dangerous Time
What if the most dangerous moment in an abusive relationship isn't staying, it's trying to leave? As Australia continues to grapple with the national crisis of domestic violence and violence against women, this …
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What if the most dangerous moment in an abusive relationship isn't staying, it's trying to leave?
As Australia continues to grapple with the national crisis of domestic violence and violence against women, this week on You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt speaks with Nicole Yade, CEO of the Women and Girls Emergency Centre, whose own experience surviving family violence and coercive control has shaped decades of frontline advocacy for women and children escaping abuse.
Before Nicole dedicated her life to helping others find safety, she was a child growing up in a home ruled by fear. As an adult, despite promising herself she'd never repeat the cycle, she found herself in an abusive relationship of her own. At 24, she fled with her five-month-old baby, leaving behind violence and stepping into homelessness because staying was no longer safe.
In this deeply personal conversation, Nicole shares why leaving an abusive relationship is far more complicated than people often believe. She unpacks domestic violence nd the invisible barriers that keep women trapped, while drawing on decades of experience supporting victim-survivors on the frontline.
This is a conversation about survival, resilience and rebuilding a life after trauma. Nicole also explains why domestic violence services are at breaking point and what needs to change to better protect women and children.
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This episode covers:
- Growing up in a home shaped by domestic violence
- Why leaving an abusive relationship is far more complex than people realise
- Coercive control and the invisible tactics that keep women trapped
- Breaking the cycle of family violence across generations
- Escaping abuse as a 24-year-old with a five-month-old baby and experiencing homelessness
- The realities of rebuilding life after domestic violence
- How children are impacted by living with family violence
- The critical work of the Women and Girls Emergency Centre (WAGEC)
- Why frontline domestic violence services remain overwhelmed
- What recovery and healing really look like after trauma
- Why domestic violence can happen to anyone
- The role men can play in preventing violence against women
- Challenging the question, "Why doesn't she just leave?"
- A message of hope for victim-survivors rebuilding their lives
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Bianca Spender on Losing Carla Zampatti and Living With Grief: PART 2
Continuing from part one, Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt talks to designer Bianca Spender about how she protects her creative energy while running an 18-year-old Australian luxury label: splitting her days …
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Continuing from part one, Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt talks to designer Bianca Spender about how she protects her creative energy while running an 18-year-old Australian luxury label: splitting her days into “creative time” and “business time,” and why her most productive hours are between 5pm and 2am, once the emails stop.
Bianca describes the Bianca Spender aesthetic in her own words: clothes built around freedom and movement, designed to make women feel completely themselves, or better yet, want to dance. She also shares why she kept two skin cancer diagnoses private for years, and why launching her first swimwear collection and sun care campaign felt like the right moment to speak about it publicly, including how two separate conversations with friends led her to catch both cancers early.
In the second half of this episode, Bianca reflects on some of the most defining moments of her life: the sudden and very public loss of her mother, and the loss of her father eighteen months later. She talks about the advice on grief that has stayed with her since: “it never leaves, it just visits less frequently,” and how grief reshaped her sense of courage and self-forgiveness. She closes with how she protects her time through boundaries with technology, her “swimming epiphanies,” and a final message for anyone listening: trust yourself.
This episode covers:
- Protecting her creative energy by separating “creative days” from “business days”
- Why her most creative hours are 5pm to 2am, once the world switches off
- The Bianca Spender aesthetic: designing clothes meant to free the body and “make you dance”
- Going public with two skin cancer diagnoses after years of privacy
- Launching her first swimwear collection and sun care campaign
- Navigating the sudden, very public loss of her mother
- Living with grief as an ongoing companion: “it never leaves, it just visits less frequently”
- Finding courage and self-forgiveness in the wake of loss
- Protecting her time with boundaries around technology
- Her “swimming epiphanies” and other ways she switches off
- A closing message to trust yourself
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Credits:
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Bianca Spender on Growing Up as Carla Zampatti's Daughter: PART 1
What does it take to earn your place in one of Australia's most famous fashion families? This is part one of a two-part conversation. Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with designer Bianca Spender …
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What does it take to earn your place in one of Australia's most famous fashion families?
This is part one of a two-part conversation. Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with designer Bianca Spender to talk about growing up as the daughter of fashion icon Carla Zampatti. Bianca takes us back to her childhood: sharing a bedroom with her sister, now-federal MP Allegra Spender, the strip of masking tape that kept the peace between them, and discovering, decades later, that dyslexia ran through three generations of her family.
She reflects on the lessons learned at the “School of Mum”: working in the family business from age nine, learning to say yes to everything, and what she only came to understand about her mother's leadership after becoming a parent and business owner herself. Bianca is candid about mum guilt, treating the business as her “first child,” and the four years she spent working in Paris, deliberately choosing a place where nobody knew her mother's name, so she could prove her own worth.
She also opens up about the strict terms under which she finally joined the family label: one season, three months, twenty pieces, and an agreement that she would leave if the collection failed to sell. It's the story of how “the market decides” became the clearest and kindest way for Bianca to earn her own place, separate from her mother's approval, and how that same conviction led her to launch her namesake label.
Part two continues the conversation with Bianca's creative process, her aesthetic, two skin cancer diagnoses, the loss of her mother, and what she's learned about living with grief - it's live right now in your podcast app!
This episode covers:
- Sharing a room with her sister, now-federal MP Allegra Spender, and the masking tape down the middle
- Discovering dyslexia ran through three generations of her family
- Working in the family business from age nine instead of watching TV
- What she only understood about her mother after becoming a parent herself
- Wrestling with mum guilt, and treating the business as her “first child”
- Moving to Paris for four years to prove her worth entirely outside her mother's name
- Earning her place in the family label through a strict “market decides” trial
- The moment her own namesake label found its own space
- Finding the confidence to trust her own aesthetic, even when it meant disagreeing with her mother
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Hannah Richell on Surviving the Worst Day of Her Life & Finding Love Again
What happens after the worst day of your life? This week on You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Australia editor Georgie McCourt speaks with bestselling Australian author Hannah Richell, whose powerful …
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What happens after the worst day of your life?
This week on You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Australia editor Georgie McCourt speaks with bestselling Australian author Hannah Richell, whose powerful new memoir, An Ocean and a Day, revisits the sudden death of her husband, Matt Richell, and the journey that followed. After years of writing acclaimed novels, Hannah is telling her own story for the first time.
In 2014, Matt drowned in a surfing accident at Sydney's Tamarama Beach, leaving Hannah widowed with two young children. For years, she focused on raising her family, continuing her writing career, and rebuilding a life that had been shattered. But privately, she was also documenting the reality of grief as she lived it.
Now, twelve years later, those pages have become An Ocean and a Day. In this deeply personal conversation, Hannah shares why she waited so long to write this memoir, what it was like to revisit the darkest chapter of her life, and how she's learned that moving forward doesn't mean leaving grief (or love) behind.
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This episode covers:
- The moment two police officers arrived at Hannah's door to tell her Matt had died in a surfing accident
- Breaking the news to her young children and the hardest day of her life
- Writing her first pages of grief just seven days after Matt's death
- Falling in love with Matt after he "stole" her job in London, in the shadow of 9/11
- The isolating, shame-tinged early days of widowhood and single parenthood
- Living with unbearable yearning and rebuilding a sense of normalcy for her kids
- Returning to Tamarama Beach to piece together what happened, and meeting the fisherman who witnessed it
- The freak accident that took Matt's life, explained in full
- What her children have taught her about grief, laughter, and resilience
- Leaving their Sydney home two years on, and her son's words while scattering Matt's ashes: "Daddy, be free"
- Navigating loneliness, dating, and desire again after loss
- Finding new love and remarrying, and blending two families
- Her reflections on acceptance, carrying grief as an honor, and the message she hopes readers take from her memoir: love stays, even after loss
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Credits:
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Jess Denham: The Story She Was Never Allowed To Tell
What if the person who was meant to protect you was the one you needed protection from? This week on You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt speaks with world champion …
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What if the person who was meant to protect you was the one you needed protection from?
This week on You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt speaks with world champion runner Jess Denham, who is telling her story publicly after years of being unable to do so.
Raised in isolation and controlled by her parents, Jess appeared to be a sporting prodigy. But behind closed doors, she was enduring unimaginable abuse. Today, both of her parents are in prison for those crimes.
In this deeply personal conversation, Jess also speaks publicly for the first time about living with Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), sharing what it's really like to live with a condition that is so often misunderstood.
This is a story of survival, resilience and reclaiming your voice after years of being silenced. Jess also shares why she's fighting for stronger protections for survivors and helping change the way Australia responds to sexual violence.
CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains themes of childhood abuse and coercive control. If you or someone you know needs immediate assistance, call 000. For confidential 24/7 crisis support, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 or visit lifeline.org.au. Support is also available through Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636 or at beyondblue.org.au.
This episode covers:
- Growing up as a homeschooled child prodigy under total parental control
- Living a hidden double life as a champion runner while surviving abuse
- Isolation as a tool of abuse and why escape felt impossible
- Finding the courage to report abuse to police
- Living with dissociative identity disorder (DID) and dismantling the stigma around it
- How trauma shapes the brain and body in survival mode
- Rebuilding trust, identity and community after a lifetime of betrayal
- Healing through art and creative expression
- The fight against victim-blaming and sensationalized media reporting
- Advocating for stronger protection of survivors' counseling records
- A message of hope for survivors: "you're not your worst chapter"
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Credits:
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With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
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Caro Claire Burke: The Tradwife Fantasy, Explained
There comes a point on Tradwife TikTok when the fantasy turns dark. The soft linen, the homemade bread and the children who never cry give way to something else: subservient wives, the manosphere, and a fight …
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There comes a point on Tradwife TikTok when the fantasy turns dark. The soft linen, the homemade bread and the children who never cry give way to something else: subservient wives, the manosphere, and a fight over who's allowed to be angry.
Caro Claire Burke went looking, and wrote Yesteryear, the runaway-hit novel about an American tradwife influencer who wakes up in the brutal 1850s. This week, Marie Claire deputy editor Mel Gaudron interviews Caro about the book all your friends are arguing about.
They cover why "tradwife" was a term invented by incels to describe a woman who doesn't exist, why culture adores unlikable men but punishes unlikable women, the Anne Hathaway film adaptation with Amazon MGM (Hathaway is set to play Natalie), writing about motherhood while seven months pregnant, and Caro's rallying cry: women disagreeing isn't catty and it isn't a failure. It might be exactly where we should be heading.
Plus, editor Georgie McCourt on the country-life fantasy that gave her two miniature donkeys.
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Charlie Verco: He Paddled Towards The Shark To Save Her
When everyone else swam for shore, Charlie Verco paddled the other way: straight towards a great white shark. On a clear, busy Saturday morning at Coogee Beach in June 2026, the 25-year-old surf lifesaver and …
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When everyone else swam for shore, Charlie Verco paddled the other way: straight towards a great white shark. On a clear, busy Saturday morning at Coogee Beach in June 2026, the 25-year-old surf lifesaver and elite board paddler was training when a woman, Leah Stewart, was attacked just ahead of him. What he did next made headlines around the world.
CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains detailed descriptions of a shark attack and serious injury that some listeners may find distressing.
Charlie grew up a North Bondi nipper and is now one of the country’s best ocean paddlers, the youngest ever winner of the Molokai to Oahu Paddleboard World Championships. In this conversation he walks Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt through the rescue minute by minute: reading the shark’s behaviour, the moment Leah was dragged under, towing her to shore one-armed when she lost consciousness, and the lifeguards and paramedics whose training saved her life on the sand.
It is a story about courage, but Charlie is uneasy with the word hero. He talks honestly about fear, adrenaline and imposter syndrome, how surf lifesaving and sport trained him to think under extreme stress, what a shark expert later told him, and why he is now urging two things: better shark safety on Australian beaches, and for people to donate blood.
In this conversation, Charlie Verco joins Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt to talk about the Coogee Beach shark attack, what it takes to act in a crisis, fear of the ocean, surf life saving, and why blood donation saves lives.
This episode covers:
- The Coogee Beach great white shark attack: what Charlie Verco saw on Saturday 13 June 2026
- Why he paddled towards the shark instead of swimming to safety
- What it is like to come face to face with a great white shark
- How surf lifesaving training and Ironman racing prepared him to act under extreme stress
- Towing an unconscious woman to shore one-armed on a paddleboard
- What a shark expert later told him about great white behaviour
- The beach response: tourniquets, lifeguards and the teamwork that saved a life
- Managing fear, adrenaline and the shakes after a traumatic rescue
- Going back into the ocean: how Charlie feels about the water now
- Shark safety in Australia: drones, detection and what he thinks needs to change
- On being called a hero, and the imposter syndrome that comes with it
- Why he is urging Australians to donate blood, especially O negative
If this conversation raises issues for you, support is available.
In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support. To support the cause Charlie raises in this episode, you can donate blood through Australian Red Cross Lifeblood (O negative is especially needed in emergencies).
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Robbed Of Her Childhood: Bek Condello On Escaping A Cult
CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains themes of childhood abuse, physical punishment, sexual trauma and coercive control. If you or someone you know needs immediate assistance, call 000. For confidential 24/7 …
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CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains themes of childhood abuse, physical punishment, sexual trauma and coercive control. If you or someone you know needs immediate assistance, call 000. For confidential 24/7 crisis support, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 or visit lifeline.org.au. Support is also available through Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636 or at beyondblue.org.au.
What if leaving your faith meant losing everyone you'd ever loved?
This week on You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt speaks with author Bek Condello about her extraordinary journey out of one of Australia's most controlling Pentecostal churches.
Raised inside the Geelong Revival Centre, Bek grew up believing the outside world was dangerous. Every aspect of life, from education and friendships to marriage and work was dictated by church leaders. Curiosity was discouraged, obedience was demanded, and fear shaped almost every decision.
In this deeply personal conversation, Bek reflects on the childhood she now recognises as abusive, the lasting impact of religious trauma and the heartbreaking reality that leaving meant losing her family, community and identity.
She also opens up about purity culture, consent, body shame, marrying to escape one form of control only to enter another, and the years it took to trust herself and build a life on her own terms.
Today, Bek has transformed unimaginable loss into purpose. As the state of Victoria investigates high-control religious groups, she explains why sharing her story has become about much more than personal healing... it's about helping others recognise coercion, reclaim their autonomy and know they're not alone.
This episode covers:
- Growing up inside the Geelong Revival Centre
- How high-control religions shape identity
- Religious trauma and childhood abuse
- The psychological impact of fear-based faith
- Purity culture, consent and bodily autonomy
- Escaping a controlling church
- Rebuilding life after leaving a cult
- Learning to trust yourself again
- Why leaving is a process, not a single moment
- Bek's advocacy for survivors of coercive religious groups
Can You Handle a Girl Like Me? by Bek Condello is available from mid-July.
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Credits:
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With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
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Health Anxiety, Chronic Illness and Online Misinformation Cost One Woman Her Life
What happens when the search for answers becomes a dangerous obsession? Georgie sits down with journalist and author Hannah McElhinney to discuss her book Wormhole, the true story of her cousin Lauren. Lauren …
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What happens when the search for answers becomes a dangerous obsession?
Georgie sits down with journalist and author Hannah McElhinney to discuss her book Wormhole, the true story of her cousin Lauren.
Lauren spent much of her life battling debilitating symptoms and collecting diagnoses including chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia and POTS, while struggling to find meaningful answers from the healthcare system.
As her trust in traditional medicine eroded, she was drawn deeper into online communities promoting controversial and unproven treatments - including coffee enemas, bleach protocols, ozone therapy and hyperthermia treatment.
At just 37 years old, Lauren travelled alone to Malaysia for an alternative treatment she hoped would finally make her well. She never came home.
Hannah shares the heartbreaking story behind Lauren’s death, and the broader questions her story raises about health anxiety and the booming wellness industry.
The conversation also explores Hannah’s own experiences with IBS, OCD and health anxiety, and how her personal journey informed her understanding of Lauren’s search for answers.
This episode contains discussions of health conditions and unproven treatments, please see your doctor for medical advice.
This episode covers:
- The true story behind Wormhole
- Lauren’s decades-long battle with chronic illness
- Why chronic illness can leave people vulnerable to misinformation
- The rise of alternative medicine and wellness culture
- The online communities that fuel medical distrust
- The dangers of unregulated treatments and medical tourism
- Chronic Lyme disease and the controversy surrounding the diagnosis
- The intersection of health anxiety, OCD and chronic symptoms
- Women’s experiences of being dismissed within healthcare systems
- The fine line between hope, desperation and exploitation
- How Hannah’s own health journey shaped her understanding of Lauren’s story
- What Lauren’s life can teach us about trust, wellness and living fully
Wormhole by Hannah McElhinney is available now.
Read more on Marie Claire: The 'treatment' that went horribly wrong in Malaysia, and the wellness world behind it
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Credits:
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Edited by Charlie Potter
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