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2018 - 2020,抖音超越快手的关键三年|对谈 Lessie AI 创始人于北川

November 8, 2025 · 1 h 25 min

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前阵子,很多人可能都被一款叫 Lessie AI 的产品刷了屏。
这期节目,我们就请到了它的创始人——于北川。
北川在 18 年以校招生身份加入抖音,亲历了抖音从 4000 万日活一路狂奔、反超快手,成长为日活仅次于微信的庞然大物的全过程。
节目前半段,我们请北川从内部视角,带我们复盘了抖音 18 - 20 年那段堪称神话的增长史:当时的抖音,在字节内部其实并不被看好?抖音最早是如何起量的,又为什么能在众多短视频产品中脱颖而出?以及,它是如何打赢 20 年那场决定命运的「抖快之战」?
聊到后半段,我们把视角从产品转向了组织。到底是什么,让字节既高效又极致?在卷卷,甚至张一鸣手下工作,又是一种怎样的体验?
我还问了北川一个本以为播不了的问题:既然字节优点那么多,为什么这几年还有这么多人选择离开?
没想到,他坦然地给出了答案,也分享了自己离开后的核心思考,包括为什么要创业、做 Lessie A...去小宇宙查看完整单集简介
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