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锐评国模与 Neo Lab,畅谈 RL 人生与 RLaaS | 对谈 Mind Lab 首席科学家骁腾

November 7, 2026 · 1 h 3 min

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这期播客中,我们和骁腾探讨了不少颇为尖锐的话题,比如国模到底哪家强,各家又有什么问题?到底该怎么定义 Neo Lab?从 Macaron 到 Neo Lab,再到 RLaaS,Mind Lab 这一路的转型背后有哪些思考,现在又做得怎么样?
坦白说,这期对我们来说,是一个打破不少固有认知的过程。骁腾的回答都很实在,也很 solid,而且他可能是我们最近聊过的最「快乐」的 Researcher 哈哈。听他聊下来,我们不仅对 Mind Lab 在做的事有了更全面的了解,也对 RL、模型发展和 RLaaS 的实际运作有了新的理解。节目中,他还分享了很多从 RL 研究中获得的生活哲学。在他看来,创业可能才是最符合 RL loop 的事情。
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