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Uncle Bob Martin: AI Driven Development - Episode 419

September 14, 2026 · 52 min

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https://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ Today I'm joined by Robert C. Martin, known to most of the industry as Uncle Bob - a programmer since 1970, co-author of the Agile Manifesto, and the first chairman of the Agile Alliance. He's the founder of Uncle Bob Consulting LLC and has written many of the field's defining books, including Clean Code, Clean Architecture, Clean Agile, and his newest release, Functional Design. Lately he's been deep into a project called swarm-forge, an open-source tool he built for coordinating teams of AI coding agents through disciplined, tmux-based workflows, and he's been documenting his experiments running it on real projects on X. This is actually Robert's fourth time on the show - we've previously talked about Agile and Extreme Programming, about clean code, and about being a software leader - I'm looking forward to hearing how his thinking on AI and software programming has evolved. Clean Coder Website - https://cleancoder.com Uncle Bob Github - https://github.com/unclebob Swarm Forge Github - https://github.com/unclebob/swarm-forge X Account - https://x.com/unclebobmartin Clean Coder LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/cleancoder Previous Appearances on the Azure & DevOps Podcast: Episode 105 Episode 283 Episode 357 Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

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