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Autism Live: Kelley Jensen

May 27, 2026 · 1 h 13 min

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Kelley Jensen, host of the Refrigerator Moms Podcast joins Shannon today to talk about TMS (Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation), a noninvasive brain stimulation therapy. Today's jargon is Elopement.

00:00 Intro & Disclaimer 00:33 Show Overview & Guest Preview (TMS + Refrigerator Moms) 01:29 How to Watch & Engage (Live + YouTube + Podcast) 03:15 Ad-Free Subscription Option Explained 04:23 All Ghouls Gala Announcement (Autism Care Today Fundraiser)

05:01 Call to Action: Contact Governor Newsom 06:15 Proposed Medi-Cal Changes Impact Autism Care 08:23 Transportation Limits & Access to Treatment 10:05 Diagnosis Requirements & Waitlist Concerns 11:33 Personal Story: Early Intervention Success

13:39 Kevin Hart Roast Controversy & Autism Representation 16:05 Identity & Autism Community Discussion

17:23 "Patience" TV Show Recommendation (Autistic Representation)

19:54 Transition to TMS Interview 20:47 Guest Introduction: Kelly Jensen

21:22 What is TMS? (Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation Explained) 23:08 TMS Treatment Process & Safety 25:15 FDA Approval, Insurance, and Use Cases 27:12 What TMS Feels Like (Patient Experience)

28:44 Early Results & Behavioral Changes 30:18 Major Improvements in OCD & Anxiety 31:18 Continued Progress After Treatment

34:20 How TMS Impacts Brain Function 35:28 TMS + Therapy + Medication Benefits

37:13 Reduced Medication Use & Outcomes

38:00 Brain Performance Technologies Overview

40:12 FDA-Approved Conditions for TMS

42:10 Side Effects & Considerations

42:36 Why TMS Isn't Widely Used in Autism

43:58 Discussion: John Elder Robison & TMS Experience

47:15 How to Learn More About TMS

49:37 Refrigerator Moms Podcast Origin Story 52:29 What the Podcast Covers (Research + Parent Guidance)

58:31 Where to Listen & Watch

59:52 Jargon of the Day: Elopement Defined 01:01:24 Why Elopement Is a Major Safety Risk

01:02:25 STOP Method for Preventing Elopement 01:11:24 Closing Remarks & Resources

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