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The 4-Step Agentic Engineering Workflow I Use to Ship Real Apps | Ras Mic

October 11, 2026 · 47 min

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Micky is a full-stack engineer who has taught 100K+ people how to build with AI. In our episode, he walked me through his 4-step agentic engineering workflow to avoid pumping out slop: Isolate every task, build to a clear structure, prove via validation loops, and ship after agents review your PRs or escalate to you for a manual look.


Micky and I talked about:


(00:00) Why most software factories pump out slop

(02:06) Step 1 (Isolate): How to run multiple agents at once

(07:18) Step 2 (Build): Give agents a structure to build on

(10:44) Step 3 (Prove): Build agentic validation loops

(16:48) The one step Micky never hands to agents

(21:30) Step 4 (Ship): Getting agents to review PRs reliably

(28:20) Why Micky doesn't write specs

(33:08) Comparing Astra and Fable for coding

(43:08) Are AI skills obsolete with today's models?


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Where to find Micky:


X: https://x.com/Rasmic

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RasMic

Skills: https://github.com/michaelshimeles/skills


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