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Human-Centered AI: From Systems Thinking to Real Change

September 3, 2025 · 50 min

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Human-Centered AI: From Systems Thinking to Real Change

With Liisa-Maija Malinen, Founder of ILO Facilitation Oy | Certified professional facilitator | learning designer


In this episode of the Bennu Community Podcast, we sit down with Liisa-Maija Malinen — founder of ILO Facilitation Oy, certified professional facilitator, and learning designer.


Liisa-Maija shares her journey from sustainability and transformational learning into exploring AI as a thinking partner. Together, we unpack how AI can be guided by human values, and why critical thinking, fairness, and systems literacy are essential to shaping technology that serves people and the planet.


📌 We discuss:

  • How AI can become a tool for deep learning, reflection, and collaboration
  • The importance of embedding ethics, equity, and inclusivity into AI design
  • Why imagination and experimentation are vital in building better futures
  • What it means to “teach AI like a child” and guide it with our values


This conversation is an invitation to rethink how we engage with AI — not as a replacement for human agency, but as a partner for systemic change and more sustainable futures.


🎧 Tune in and ask yourself: If you could teach AI one value this week, what would it be?


🎙 Hosted by Alex — Founder of Ozyntel & Co-founder at Flux Forward

📍 Subscribe and listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Castbox, and more.


🎧 Listen now: podcast.bennu.community


💡 Connect with Liisa-Maija Malinen on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lmalinen


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