Skip to content

The Bumpy Road To AGI — With Kevin Roose

October 15, 2026 · 1 h 4 min

Show notes

Kevin Roose is the author of The AGI Chronicles,. Roose joins Big Technology Podcast to discuss whether an AI industry rife with personal rivalries, infighting, and mistrust can be trusted to develop technology more powerful than humans. Tune in to hear why Roose emerged from years of reporting inside OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google DeepMind more concerned about AI safety, why he believes the industry should slow down, and what happens if AI systems begin improving themselves. We also cover Sam Altman's leadership style, Dario Amodei's motivations, Sergey Brin's return to Google, Microsoft's AI missteps, and the behind-the-scenes drama of OpenAI's boardroom coup. Hit play for an inside look at the personalities, power struggles, and technological breakthroughs shaping the race to superintelligence.

---

Enjoying Big Technology Podcast? Please rate us five stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ in your podcast app of choice.

Want a discount for Big Technology on Substack + Discord? Here’s 25% off for the first year: https://www.bigtechnology.com/subscribe?coupon=0843016b

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All episodes of Big Technology Podcast

Settings

Display

Language

Decides which stations you see first on the home page.

History

Recently played stations and episodes and your latest searches are only stored in this browser.

Notifications

A short notice when a podcast you follow has a new episode. Turn off single podcasts with the bell on their page.

Account

Save favorites – in the app and on the website.

Keyboard shortcuts

/
Open search
Space
Play or pause
← →
In the player: back 15 s, forward 30 s (episodes) · in a row: next tile
↑ ↓
In a row: target within the tile
Home / End
In a row: first or last tile
Esc
Close window or menu
?
This overview
Now playing

Go to station page

Play next

    Add episodes with “Play next” – they play after the current episode.