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Adam Curry on Podcasting 2.0, Value for Value & Building Community

August 13, 2026 · 1 h 18 min

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Adam Curry, the “Podfather” and co-creator of podcasting, explains Podcasting 2.0, value for value, and how to build a podcast community that helps sustain your show.

From his first pirate radio station in the Netherlands to No Agenda and Podcast Index, Adam shares what he’s learned about finding a co-host, inviting listener feedback, and defining success beyond download numbers. He also talks about being a guest on The Joe Rogan Experience and why he still believes in audio.

In this conversation:

  • How to find a co-host through conversations you already enjoy
  • Why listener feedback makes a show better
  • How No Agenda developed its value-for-value approach: time, talent, and treasure
  • How Bitcoin’s Lightning Network enables small payments and revenue splits
  • Why Adam and Dave Jones built Podcast Index, and how Podcasting 2.0 brings listeners, developers, and podcasters together

Chapters
00:00:00 Adam Curry: the Podfather’s podcasting journey
00:01:52 Being a guest on The Joe Rogan Experience
00:06:29 Pirate radio: how Adam Curry got started
00:21:44 How to find a podcast co-host
00:27:52 Why conversation and audio keep listeners engaged
00:34:59 How podcasting changed broadcasting
00:40:12 Defining podcast success beyond downloads
00:48:00 Value for value: how listeners support No Agenda
00:52:54 What early adoption taught Adam about value
00:58:41 Bitcoin Lightning payments and revenue splits
01:03:16 Building community through listener participation
01:08:19 Why Adam Curry and Dave Jones built Podcast Index

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