Skip to content

Breaking the Silence

March 23, 2026 · 41 min

Show notes

What would you do if a serial killer put a gun to your little sister’s head?

Eleven-year-old Kristine didn't have time to think. In that terrifying moment, on a sunny afternoon that should have been safe, she made a choice.

She figured out Christopher Wilder—the man who would become one of America’s most notorious killers—and she used that knowledge to keep her ten-year-old sister alive through hours of unimaginable horror. This is her truly remarkable story, told in her own voice.

For decades, Kristine carried the weight of that day alone. The system failed her. People looked away. But she never let that day define her. Instead, she turned her pain into a lifeline for other women, founding a non-profit to ensure no one has to survive in silence. Her courage isn’t just about surviving a monster; it’s about refusing to let that monster win, even forty years later.

This episode is more than a crime story. It’s a testament to a sister’s love, a child’s astonishing bravery, and a woman’s unbreakable spirit. If you’ve ever needed to believe that light can grow from the darkest places, listen. Kristine’s voice will stay with you long after the episode ends.


Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women is dedicated to advancing women’s mental health and social wellbeing. Contributions directly support community-based initiatives that raise awareness, provide resources, and foster safe, supportive spaces for women to grow and heal.

Please donate what you can and help Kristine help others: https://www.zeffy.com/en-US/fundraising/turn-pain-into-purpose


Join the hunt for the truth:


Kristine's nonprofit foundation is called Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women. Click here for the website if you can donate or want to help: http://YTTWomen.org


Contact us here if you know something about Christopher Wilder: [email protected]


Instagram: catchingevil - https://www.instagram.com/catchingevil/


Facebook: Catching Evil: True Crime Podcast - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61582973930611


TikTok: catchingevil - https://www.tiktok.com/@catchingevil


Catching Evil Podcast Blog: www.catchingevil.com


Hosts

Andy Byrne 

Mark Llewellyn


Audio Production

Sam Blacker at The Podcast Butler - https://thepodcastbutler.com/


Media

Lisa at Llewellyn Communications https://llewcom.com.au/


Pro Podcast Studios, Sydney - propodcast.com.au 


Resources

The Pretty Girl Killer by Andrew Byrne - courtesy of Penguin Random House


Catching Evil is hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information

Get in Touch

If you knew Wilder or one of his victims, contact us in confidence: [email protected]


Record a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/catchingevil


Join us and support these not-for-profits:

US 

Survivors of Homicide Inc - https://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/

Yesterday Today Tomorrow Women Inc - https://www.yttwomen.org/

Aus

Mary’s House 1800 002 111 https://www.maryshouse.org.au/about/


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

All episodes of Catching Evil

Settings

Display

Language

Decides which stations you see first on the home page.

History

Recently played stations and episodes and your latest searches are only stored in this browser.

Notifications

A short notice when a podcast you follow has a new episode. Turn off single podcasts with the bell on their page.

Account

Save favorites – in the app and on the website.

Keyboard shortcuts

/
Open search
Space
Play or pause
← →
In the player: back 15 s, forward 30 s (episodes) · in a row: next tile
↑ ↓
In a row: target within the tile
Home / End
In a row: first or last tile
Esc
Close window or menu
?
This overview
Now playing

Go to station page

Play next

    Add episodes with “Play next” – they play after the current episode.