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#384 Is the Cloud Over? | Sergio Gago, CTO at Cloudera

October 26, 2026 · 54 min

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AI agents are only as useful as the data they can reach, and most company data is scattered across clouds, data centers, and legacy systems. Giving agents access is easy to get wrong, especially when the data includes salaries, customer records, or financial results. That's why governance, permissions, and audit trails are becoming the main bottleneck for getting agents into production. How do you give an agent the right access without exposing sensitive information? Who owns that job? And do traditional ideas like data fabrics and data meshes still hold up?

Sergio Gago is the CTO at Cloudera. He previously held senior roles at Moody's Analytics, most recently as managing director of AI/ML and quantum, and was CTO of Rakuten's Spanish operations and of digital publishing company Zinio.

In the episode, Richie and Sergio explore hybrid infrastructure for AI, choosing between cloud, neo clouds and on-premise, data fabrics and governance for agents, why agents need data access, the changing role of data teams, ephemeral dashboards, skills for engineers, sovereign AI, and much more.

Links Mentioned in the Show:

• Cloudera: The Great AI Rearchitecture report

• Thoughtworks: Core principles of data mesh

• Cloudera Unified Data Fabric

• Apache Ranger

• OpenClaw explained

• Trino

• Connect with Sergio

• AI-Native Course: Intro to AI for Work

• Related Episode: AI Agents Are the New Shadow IT (And Your Governance Isn't Ready) with Stijn Christiaens, Chief Data Citizen at Collibra

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