TurnOver for Mac and the Latest on Glidance's Glide
Show notes
TurnOver, a free and open source screen reader for the Mac, has Steven Scott and Shaun Preece rethinking the Mac. Glidance CEO Amos Miller also shares what more than 30 pilot users have learned from Glide in the real world, and when everyone else can expect theirs.
Listener Barry starts with his first 10 days on TurnOver. You can use NVDA or JAWS keys on a Mac, open its menu with Control Command Comma, and if TurnOver crashes, VoiceOver comes back on automatically. Steven explains why moving around with Tab and Shift Tab makes WhatsApp and Messages much quicker. He also worries that lots of open source forks could thin out the project, and he advises cautious users to wait while it's this early.
Amos Miller tells Shaun that Glide users walked their two and a half millionth step in mid-October. He's open about what still needs work: keeping a line on the sidewalk, walking along a road beside a grass verge, and lining up for road crossings. He also explains why new users should practise on a long, clear, straight stretch before taking Glide anywhere else.
The team has sped up work on the Glide agent, which adds scene description and lets you say "guide me to" the blue door, the bus stop or the person with the dog. Amos says the hardware design is now settled and explains why faster, smaller AI models matter for a physical guide.
Pre-orders won't ship before Christmas as planned. Amos expects the main software fixes around January or February, and a final round of hardware fixes pushes deliveries into early 2027. Meanwhile, more people are joining the pilot.
Chapters
0:00 – Welcome and an Al Pacino impression
5:28 – Barry tries TurnOver for Mac
9:04 – TurnOver, open source forks and the Apple question
20:54 – Amos Miller on Glide's real-world pilot
24:51 – Pilot lessons and current limitations
29:25 – The Glide agent: scene description and guided navigation
40:51 – Why the Glide hardware is settled
44:01 – How AI progress shaped Glide
47:27 – New release timeline and Amos's confidence
54:08 – Takeaways and tomorrow's HapWare interview
Relevant Links
Glidance: https://www.glidance.io
TurnOver: https://doll-eye.github.io/turnover-updates/
TurnOver on GitHub: https://github.com/TurnOver-For-Mac/turnover
HapWare: https://hapware.com
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