DZ-130: Positive Character Arcs

Listen to understand how to dramatize a character's internal change.

Welcome to our third entry in our character arc series; and the first where we talk about characters that actually change. And positively, too.

We deep dive into BARBIE, WIDOWS and ALL OF US STRANGERS to work out what makes an arc feel positive -- even if the film itself is heartbreaking. All three films are "positive arcs" that feel wildly different. We speculate whether that's due to the nature of the relationship questions, the use of additive/subtractive rewards; and whether it's do with the connection of the characters needs and their goals.

We further crystalize two tools we've been kicking around:

• The relationship question — take a character question ("will she learn to connect?") and pose it as a relationship problem ("will these two grow closer or further apart?").
• Additive vs subtractive rewards — We continue buildling on this idea from our Steadfast episodes. Does the story give the character something or take something away? And is that a good or a bad thing?

And Mel brings up a third:

• Repeating a beat from a different angle so we can trace a character's gradual evolution.

We also debate whether Barbie's void scene is a producer's note personified — a director going into the endless nothing to spell the themes out one more time.

All this and more on DZ-130!

As always: SPOILERS ABOUND and all copyright material used under fair use for educational purposes.

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"A relationship question is taking what we think is an internal question about a character and defining it in terms of the relationship. Will Moana grow closer to their village coming back or will they'll grow further apart?" — Stu Willis @ 00:06:09

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CHAPTERS

• 00:00:00 – Cold Open
• 00:00:21 – Positive Character Arcs
• 00:04:47 – › Relationship questions as the key to dramatizing arcs
• 00:09:00 – Followup Questions
• 00:12:12 – Zero Context Insights
• 00:13:01 – BARBIE
• 00:17:16 – › The void scene with Barbie's creator
• 00:23:13 – › Immortality versus death as the real choice
• 00:27:02 – › Debating the lie the character believes
• 00:44:26 – › Gain versus loss framing the ending
• 00:52:34 – › Contrast and affinity
• 00:59:47 – WIDOWS
• 01:05:47 – › Establishing character patterns before the heist begins
• 01:09:37 – › Do the widows have values before the story starts
• 01:18:42 – › Skills and goals tightly tied to character growth
• 01:21:04 – › Alice's escalating value shift through the sugar daddy scene
• 01:25:04 – › Linda's grief scene and steadfast versus positive arcs
• 01:27:12 – › Veronica's arc through Harry's betrayal and revenge
• 01:39:33 – › Comparing ensemble arcs to OCEAN'S ELEVEN and THE TOWN
• 01:46:46 – › Relationship questions as emotional engine of ensemble films
• 01:49:36 – ALL OF US STRANGERS
• 01:55:38 – › Rebuffing Harry sets up the positive arc
• 02:02:15 – › Isolation to connectedness as the emotional throughline
• 02:07:24 – › Contrasting coming out scenes with mom and dad
• 02:11:26 – › The low point as emotional violence not distance
• 02:18:48 – › Dream logic and touch as physical arc tracking
• 02:23:20 – Key Learnings & Wrap Up
• 02:26:20 – › Additive versus subtractive rewards in character arcs
• 02:29:58 – › Patreon shoutouts and next episode preview

FILMS

• BARBIE (2023) — (w) Noah Baumbach, Greta Gerwig (d) Greta Gerwig
• WIDOWS (2018) — (w) Gillian Flynn, Steve Mcqueen (d) Steve Mcqueen
• ALL OF US STRANGERS (2023) — (w) Andrew Haigh, Taichi Yamada (d) Andrew Haigh

SCRIPTS

• Study the script: BARBIE (2023) — Noah Baumbach, Greta Gerwig
• Study the script: ALL OF US STRANGERS (2023) — Andrew Haigh, Taichi Yamada

SHOT ZERO DEEP DIVES

• What You Don't See: WIDOWS
• Frames within Frames: ALL OF US STRANGERS

LINKS

• Read: Colour Theory: DESERT HEARTS
• Read: Greta Gerwig Explains What Barbie's Bench Scene Really Means

EPISODES IN THE CHARACTER ARCS SERIES

• DZ-128: What even is a Character Arc?
• DZ-129: Steadfast Character Arcs - Agents of Change
• DZ-130: Positive Character Arcs

RELATED EPISODES

• DZ-108: The Emotional Event with Judith Weston
• DZ-112: Breaking the 4th wall
• DZ-113: Tools For Filmmakers To Talk To The Audience

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