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Escape Forward: Connecting dots beyond the antitrust island

Escape Forward: Connecting dots beyond the antitrust island

NewChinese exports and AI are pouring in. Will Europe respond to the China Shock and trust its AI?November 3, 2026 · 58 min
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Antitrust has thrived in the shadows for decades as a technocracy, a church with its own rituals, a lobbyfest pretending to be science. But it is an economic policy tool working alongside others. After a lifetime as antitrust expert economist & one of the original proponents of the “more economic approach” in Europe, Cristina Caffarra discusses with friends in policy and academe why we need to escape the myth competition will deliver “a level playing field, consumer choice and innovation” & move forward to connecting the dots with everything else that matters to growth & prosperity.

Episodes 15

  1. Chinese exports and AI are pouring in. Will Europe respond to the China Shock and trust its AI?

    58 minSeason 1 · Episode 14

    While Washington builds tariff walls, Chinese exports and Chinese AI are pouring into Europe. Cristina Caffarra talks to Kyle Chan of the Brookings Institution about “China Shock 2.0”, now hitting the core of …

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    While Washington builds tariff walls, Chinese exports and Chinese AI are pouring into Europe. Cristina Caffarra talks to Kyle Chan of the Brookings Institution about “China Shock 2.0”, now hitting the core of European industry, from machinery to chemicals, and why Europe’s narrow, rules-first trade response falls short. They also look at the rise of Chinese open-weight AI models, which offer Europe an affordable route to sovereignty but may come with strings attached as Beijing considers export controls. Chan’s verdict: Europe has more leverage than it thinks, and the lasting answer is building its own models.

  2. "AI poses an existential risk to humanity" - TAKE 2

    49 minSeason 1 · Episode 13

    Cristina Caffarra is joined by former FTC litigation director Shaoul Sussman to unpack the renewed push to regulate frontier AI. They explore whether concerns over AI safety are also serving the interests of …

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    Cristina Caffarra is joined by former FTC litigation director Shaoul Sussman to unpack the renewed push to regulate frontier AI. They explore whether concerns over AI safety are also serving the interests of powerful AI companies, the growing challenge from cheaper Chinese models, and the uncertain economics behind huge AI investments. Above all, they ask: who will write the rules—and will regulation deliver accountability or protect the companies it is meant to constrain?

  3. Europe's slowly shifting, but too late for the fight? Industrial policy, trade, AI, China with Shahin Vallée

    60 minSeason 1 · Episode 12

    In this episode of Escape Forward, Cristina Caffarra speaks with Shahin Vallée about Europe’s economic and geopolitical choices at a moment of growing pressure. They discuss productivity, AI, industrial policy …

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    In this episode of Escape Forward, Cristina Caffarra speaks with Shahin Vallée about Europe’s economic and geopolitical choices at a moment of growing pressure. They discuss productivity, AI, industrial policy, China, the transatlantic relationship and global trade imbalances — and ask whether Europe can turn shifting ideas into decisive action before events move faster than policy.

  4. Talking Tech Sovereignty with an AI Optimist

    1 h 2 minSeason 1 · Episode 11

    Cristina Caffarra speaks with Yariv Adan, founder of ellipsis Ventures and former Google AI leader, about why he believes AI will expand human potential by making intelligence widely accessible and accelerating …

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    Cristina Caffarra speaks with Yariv Adan, founder of ellipsis Ventures and former Google AI leader, about why he believes AI will expand human potential by making intelligence widely accessible and accelerating scientific and economic progress. They also discuss his AI-native venture capital firm and debate Europe's pursuit of AI sovereignty, weighing the risks of dependence on U.S. frontier models against the need to build competitive European capabilities.

  5. Doing Deals for AI Model Access? Or What European AI Strategy?

    1 h 5 minSeason 1 · Episode 10

    Cristina Caffarra in conversation with Andreas Liebl on the way AI FOMO on “god-like” LLM frontier models is being weaponized in Europe to push US tech economic and geopolitical dominance, alongside the …

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    Cristina Caffarra in conversation with Andreas Liebl on the way AI FOMO on “god-like” LLM frontier models is being weaponized in Europe to push US tech economic and geopolitical dominance, alongside the campaign to kill the European sovereignty movement. The future of AI in Europe may involve different paths, may be about much more than frontier models, from orchestrated agentic structures be architected for organizations using smaller more specialist models (can they deliver powerful results?), world models, causal models, embedding context, recursive self-improvement, robotics & physical AI (which have different requirements from cognitive side). Still a lot to play for – though yes we must build our own compute as it is essential infrastructure.

  6. AI in Europe: jobs, sovereignty and value capture

    1 hSeason 1 · Episode 9

    Cristina Caffarra in conversation with Luis Garicano on a few salient strands of the 𝗔𝗜 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗶𝗻 𝗘𝘂𝗿𝗼𝗽𝗲 today. 𝗝𝗼𝗯 𝗱𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 – will “most white collar jobs” really be “lost in 1-5 years” with Agentic …

  7. “Innovation Continent”: Europe’s Leap Forward

    51 minSeason 1 · Episode 8

    Cristina Caffarra speaks with Andreas Klinger on Europe's Leap Forward

  8. Cristina Caffarra picks out the highlights and her key takeaways from the landmark “Rebuilding European Sovereignty” Conference -Brussels 28 January 2026.

    1 h 8 minSeason 1 · Episode 7

    Cristina Caffarra picks out the highlights and her key takeaways from the landmark “Rebuilding European Sovereignty” Conference -Brussels 28 January 2026.

  9. The European Discombobulation Over the US National Security Strategy

    43 min

    Julius Krein of American Affairs discusses what’s behind the US Administration National Security Strategy document which created such discombobulation in Europe. A rational tour de force of the conservative …

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    Julius Krein of American Affairs discusses what’s behind the US Administration National Security Strategy document which created such discombobulation in Europe. A rational tour de force of the conservative perception and assessment of Europe – from “civilizational” issues and culture wars to the EU’s “overreach”, defence decline, lack of “course correction mechanisms” to face the obvious economic issues, and finally the “moralizing” instead of “transactional” approach. And if we hate it, “no one really cares”. How many wake up calls do we need?

  10. Enshittification of our digital experience: the pathology is clear, but is there a cure?

    1 h 2 minSeason 1 · Episode 5

    𝗖𝗼𝗿𝘆 𝗗𝗼𝗰𝘁𝗼𝗿𝗼𝘄 (the “Renaissance man” author and activist) has a 𝗻𝗲𝘄 𝗯𝗼𝗼𝗸 on "𝗘𝗻𝘀𝗵𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻" 𝗼𝗳 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗼𝗻𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗲 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲. We discuss the 𝗺𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗶𝘀𝗺𝘀𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗽𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝗶𝗲𝘀, but above all: 𝗶𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗮 𝗰𝘂𝗿𝗲? Cory traces the …

  11. Europe’s Quest for Digital Emancipation with Rafael Laguna and Dietmar Harhoff

    59 minSeason 1 · Episode 4

    Europe is in the throws of an accelerating, urgent mobilisation around “digital sovereignty” – which does not mean protectionism and does not mean autarky: instead, an industrial project - led by industry – to …

  12. The New Toolkit of Power: Finance, Dealmaking, Champions with Rohit Chopra

    49 min

    Over just a few months, the Trump Administration has unleashed an unexpected array of tools to redress the perceived “burden” carried by the US for security and overvaluation of the dollar, wake up the rest of …

  13. Where is U.S. antitrust enforcement going?

    56 minSeason 2 · Episode 2

    𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗵𝗮𝗽𝗽𝗲𝗻𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲 “𝗮𝗻𝘁𝗶𝘁𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗴𝗻𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁” in the US? What did it mean and has it evaporated? The “𝗔𝗺𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗮 𝗙𝗶𝗿𝘀𝘁” brand of antitrust populism ("everyday pocket issues for ordinary Americans") was the flag for …

  14. “America First” vs the “Draghi Mission”: Is the US Upending the World Order, and Can Europe Make It?

    1 h 12 minSeason 1 · Episode 1

    In this NEW PODCAST Cristina Caffarra practices escaping forward from (just) antitrust, because everything connects. This episode brings together an American Conservative view of Europe and what “America First” …

    Show notes

    In this NEW PODCAST Cristina Caffarra practices escaping forward from (just) antitrust, because everything connects. This episode brings together an American Conservative view of Europe and what “America First” means behind the current tariff war (Oren Cass) and a European diagnosis of the problem and what we should do (Sander Tordoir). Brutal and clear. We are not just fighting a trade war.

  15. Escape Forward - Episode 1 is coming on the 17th July

    1 minSeason 1 · Episode 1Trailer

    Antitrust has thrived in the shadows for decades as a technocracy, a church with its own rituals, a lobbyfest pretending to be science. But it is an economic policy tool working alongside others. After a …

    Show notes

    Antitrust has thrived in the shadows for decades as a technocracy, a church with its own rituals, a lobbyfest pretending to be science. But it is an economic policy tool working alongside others. After a lifetime as antitrust expert economist & one of the original proponents of the “more economic approach” in Europe, Cristina Caffarra discusses with friends in policy and academe why we need to escape the myth competition will deliver “a level playing field, consumer choice and innovation” & move forward to connecting the dots with everything else that matters to growth & prosperity.

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