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Carine Roitfeld: Safe Is Boring

November 6, 2026 · 49 min

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For a decade as editor-in-chief of Vogue Paris, Carine Roitfeld made fashion feel dangerous again: provocative, sensual, and unapologetic. Then she walked away from the most coveted job in fashion to launch CR Fashion Book and prove the vision was always hers.

Jill sits down with Carine to trace her path. She grew up in Paris, where David Bowie taught her English and style. She made her first “combat look” from flea market military surplus during May ‘68. She spent 15 years at French Elle, starting with the knitting page. Carine talks about her 20-year partnership with Mario Testino, and about helping Tom Ford turn Gucci into a sexy, chic private club with the famous G campaign. She remembers the covers at Vogue Paris that nearly got her fired. She also looks back on her decade with Karl Lagerfeld, the friend who never forgot to send flowers and who told her the most important thing is to surprise people.

Carine still regrets not fighting for, why instinct can’t be taught, and why she’s always protected the young models she works with. She also shares her plans for Le Grand Bal, a deliberately not politically correct answer to the Met Gala, and for a foundation to house and support young fashion students from modest backgrounds. Plus: seven rapid-fire this-or-that questions.

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