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HLTV Top 20 Needs To Be SHUT DOWN

October 2, 2026 · 1 h 27 min

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Thorin, Mauisnake and Pimp open on a listener take demanding the HLTV top 20 be shut down for warping Counter-Strike history, and Thorin ends up defending the list he has argued with for a decade. From there: whether m0NESY can ever be crowned number 1, G2's roster future, paiN's prodigy problem, and a GOAT argument built on dupreeh.

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