Skip to content

Marco Rubio’s Vatican visit, explained | Inside the Vatican podcast

May 15, 2026 · 36 min

Show notes

This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell and Colleen Dulle discuss U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio’s visit to Pope Leo XIV, along with recent developments between the Vatican and the Society of St. Pius X, which has committed to illicitly ordain bishops without the Vatican’s approval. In the second part of the show, Colleen and Gerry look at the pope’s visits to Pompeii and Naples, and Gerry explains why he thinks Pope Leo’s forthcoming encyclical won’t be published as expected on May 15.

Links from the show:

Vatican warns SSPX leaders of excommunication over ‘schismatic act’ of ordaining bishops

Pope Leo meets with Marco Rubio amid Trump’s personal attacks

Poll: Most Americans disapprove of Trump’s attacks on Pope Leo

Pope Leo prays for end to ‘fratricidal hatred’ as he celebrates anniversary in Pompeii


Follow Gerry on X: @gerryorome

Follow Colleen on Instagram: @colleendulle

Support Inside the Vatican by becoming a subscriber to America Magazine!


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All episodes of Inside The Vatican

Settings

Display

Language

Decides which stations you see first on the home page.

History

Recently played stations and episodes and your latest searches are only stored in this browser.

Notifications

A short notice when a podcast you follow has a new episode. Turn off single podcasts with the bell on their page.

Account

Save favorites – in the app and on the website.

Keyboard shortcuts

/
Open search
Space
Play or pause
← →
In the player: back 15 s, forward 30 s (episodes) · in a row: next tile
↑ ↓
In a row: target within the tile
Home / End
In a row: first or last tile
Esc
Close window or menu
?
This overview
Now playing

Go to station page

Play next

    Add episodes with “Play next” – they play after the current episode.