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Broad Shoulders, High Heels (w/ Monét X Change & BenDeLaCreme)

October 19, 2026 · 45 min

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What's the most masculine thing about two of drag's most decorated queens? This week, Joel Kim Booster is joined by Monét X Change (Drag Race All Stars 4 winner, The Traitors) and BenDeLaCreme (Drag Race All Stars 3, The Jinkx & DeLa Holiday Show) to talk about all things masculinity—from GAY-ming and bar fights, to fatherly lessons involving studs. Plus the perils of hooking up in drag, mismatched sex drives in marriage, and the little known practicality of tennis balls in pools.

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Joel Kim Booster: @ihatejoelkim · Loot Season 3 (Apple TV+) · Fire Island (Hulu) · Psychosexual (Netflix)

Monét X Change: @monetxchange · RuPaul's Drag Race All Star Season 4 Winner (Paramount+) · Monét Talks Podcast · Sibling Rivalry Podcast

BenDeLaCreme: @bendelacreme · The Jinkx & DeLa Holiday Show Tour · Jinkx & DeLa - How the Queens Made Christmas · RuPaul’s Drag Race All Stars Season 3 (Paramount+)


 

Produced by Brian Baldinger and Anne Harris. Associate Producers are Maddie McCann and Katherine Calligori. Editor is Jacob Vaus. Executive Producers are Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Robert Cohen, Richard Korson and Bernie Kaminski.

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