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Week 3, Day 23

October 6, 2026 · 42 min

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Two sleep experts. One question for nine o'clock on a Tuesday morning: what do you do when you're exhausted, overwhelmed and your brain won't switch off?

Gina talks with Dr. Beverley David, a clinical psychologist who has been teaching insomnia treatment since 1998, and Alanna McGinn, a sleep, stress and divorce specialist. They cover why rumination wrecks sleep, how to break the worry loop with small tools like a word or a giraffe, why moving your body matters more for sleep than for burning calories, and the habits that quietly sabotage midlife sleep.


Where to Find Them:

Dr. Beverley David

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drdrbeverley/

Website: https://www.yourpsychologycentre.ca/store

To sign up for Dr. Beverley's Insomnia Solution (CBT-I) Fall session: https://www.yourpsychologycentre.ca/store/improveyoursleep7pm-mszxh-py58n-eghrj-ttg79-hmwaa-b8k3d-kzngb-r84sa-nteyx-26cxe


Alanna McGinn

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alanna.mcginn/

Websites:

https://www.goodnitesleepsite.com/

https://alannamcginn.com/

Podcast: https://www.thebedtimeedit.com


This podcast aligns with Day 23 of our Fall Program, members can find video in our Livy Method app or Livy Method Community Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/livymethod


There is still time to join the Fall Program and there are two ways to join you can purchase the Fall Session for $99, or become a member for $20/month for year-round support, access to every session, Livy AI, member perks and more. The program is meant to fit into your life, not make your life the program. So start when you’re ready, make it work for you, and visit livymethod.com to join us.

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