Water, Wind, and Stupid | 5
Show notes
After Gracie begins receiving cruel messages from subscribers, she and Leon explore the darker corners of online desire — from a ruthless Romanian cam pioneer to AI influencers built to exploit loneliness. Gracie is forced to confront a troubling idea: that making real money depends on treating men as endlessly exploitable — and what it might cost her to do the same.
Credits:
Hosts — Leon Neyfakh and Gracie Canaan
Supervisor Producer — Sam Lee
Editor — Diane Hodson
Producers — Dustin DeSoto and Betsy Shepherd
Mix Engineer — Erica Huang
Theme Song and Score — Billy Libby
Fact-Checker — Annika Robbins
Executive Producers — Lara Regan Kleinschmidt, Jules Henderson, and Heather Won Tesoriero
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