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Without This Number, Your DTC Brand Is Running on Hope

November 9, 2026 · 1 h 24 min

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“You’re going to set some money on fire before you ever get to flip these cards over.”

How much can you spend on a customer when the first order loses money?

Mike Beckham (CEO, Simple Modern) walks Matt Bertulli (Founder, Pela Case & Lomi), Cody Plofker (Advisor & fmr. CEO, Jones Road Beauty) and Curtis Christopherson (Chief Growth Officer, Ammortal) through the profit model behind consumable brands, using Trevi’s retention data. He measures every customer three ways.

1. Lifetime Value: Profit per customer over 6 months

2. Net LTV: LTV minus what you paid to acquire them

3. Nominal LTV: Net LTV times customers acquired

Winks just pushed its CAC under $100. Mike shows why few brands earn $100 back from a customer in six months. Then the hosts split on forcing subscriptions, and Mike warns that longer paybacks have bankrupted brands.

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